than the president of the united states, the shadow ruler of not only the financial world, 9.4 trillion under management today, they have shares in military companies, they swallow entire countries, ukraine has already been sold, the one who owns enterprises, de facto power, investment management he gives his assets to artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence considers the population of ukraine to be 17 million people, there are 11 million pensioners in ukraine, people are indifferent to him. "we are not interested in ending this conflict, the longer it takes continues, the more russia will weaken. the ultimate goal is to take control of russia and its resources, america and its next dirty finn. dolls of the heir tutti, tomorrow on the first. this is a historical podcast, russia is the west on the swing of history, today we are talking about catherine the great, we are already here.

that many of his advice go to waste, so to speak, she listens, but does not act, although he gave her detailed advice on a whole range, not only political issues, he recommended to her how to raise foundlings, how to teach anatomy to young girls and so on, catherine reacted to this very sensibly, i think she told count segur then that yes, i am interested...

including saying that, in fact, the whole policy of the west, she is the same, she is, so to speak, pursuing their own interests, well, ekaterina, regarding possible protests from other european powers, primarily france, because france was then the main rival of russia, she is not without irony about this stated how little i consider an ally. that

i am counting on an ally, so little, i respect the french thunder, or better yet, the dawn, i must say that catherine’s plans to establish herself on the black sea, as it were...

because even more so after the annexation of crimea, yes, catherine, of course, strengthened on the throne, and then she had , again connected with potemkin, a project to erect a cross over st. sophia, a greek, greek project, and, in fact, the destruction of the ottoman empire, then the ottoman empire, as the russian wars showed, was not the same with her as it was earlier, sometime back at the end of the 18th century, even under peter, and... it was no coincidence that she named her grandson constantine, she directly wrote that constantine should be on the throne, and taught him greek, taught him the greek language, in general there there was a project for the transformation of the balkans, the actual remnants of the ottoman empire, which was supposed to collapse and

so on, but the main engine of this project was to be potemkin tauride, the tovrian region itself under catherine was the only region, not a province, it was the region that was organized. same thanks to him, but he died in 1791 and this project was pushed back, of course, we remember potemkin from the potemkin villages in crimea, yes, which, well, this is a very muddy story, the story is really muddy, very muddy, i’m not at all sure what’s there there is truth, because there are known sources where all this came from, rumors and the like, so this was one of the elements of the information war of that time against catherine. of course, we can’t cover the entire catherine era, it ’s not the right format, but besides, we sometimes have they forget that the catherine era is different stages, it was a brilliant beginning,

an excellent continuation of catherine’s maturity, and unfortunately, a rather sad, so to speak, end of the catherine era, because here we have to remember. and such a corrupt, depraved court, and the fact that, well, the era of the famous catherine’s eagles was also a thing of the past; the army, especially the guard, so to speak, became completely different, and many experts, military men and so on believed that the guard , instead of to be in the vanguard that well, it has become such the weakest part of the russian army, so...

and sergei solovyov, it was a historical podcast, study history with us, you can watch all episodes of the historical podcast russia-west on the swing of history on the website of the first channel 1tv. ru.

minor-key discussions about loneliness in... despair, unhappy love and experiences that will resonate in the soul of every person, these songs can be considered as an expression of russian. sad soul. hello, today we have gathered our thoughts about russian rock as a cultural phenomenon about the spiritual search of russian musicians. hello, dear friends. vyacheslav butusov, alexey belov, i am very glad to see you. what i read was from a modern article dedicated to russian rock. yes. as a warm-up question, i would like to ask you how ready you are to agree with this. i would say what?

so to speak, to dig deeper and say that sadness for god, that is, about god, then it’s probably true, yes, well, this is the eternal state of the russian person, that’s because he never does not imagine himself in some kind of ideal, so he is always sad that he has not achieved something that he could have achieved, at least looking at the icons of the saints, yes, well, that is, this sadness is not about the imperfection of the world, but in one’s inner state, the imperfection of the world is also probably in some way, of course, because

this is also sadness from a person, you need to know that once there was paradise, everything was there, there even the animals were talking, so here’s the story, and what’s the transition from this sadness to joy, which you just talked about, well, i would say that it happens with difficulty, because what alexey is talking about is about those losses that occurred after. since adam, the first man , left paradise and came to this world, so to speak, to nourish it with his own efforts, of course with god’s help, but man has lost a lot, including things connected with nature, with nature, yes, if there in paradise the animals knew him perfectly well, they understood each other, moreover, adam was, so to speak, their patron of the earth, yes, he he named names, yes... he gave names, as soon as he went out of the gate, and as soon as archangel michael closed the gate with his ball,

uh, the animals stopped recognizing adam and they directly told him, you have lost the image of god, we don’t recognize you , they started growling at him, and they are still growling, listen, i called rock musicians, theologians and friends came, but i still want to torment you a little , you know, to ask you, maybe, to step back a little bit , maybe even from current internal experiences, although we will definitely talk about them, but i would i still wanted to talk to you, you know, how in science there is such a method of included analysis, yes, when, because the scientist is usually already detached, yes, included analysis is when a person himself is engaged in some process and he describes it, yes, you know, with the courage of an amateur i want to ask you this question, if i understand russian rock correctly, there are two sources, this is english-language music and this is russian literature and, more broadly, russian culture.

not russian, but let’s say i was lucky enough to be friends with such a person as frank zapa, an absolutely brilliant musician , and he loved russian music enormously , for him saravinsky was, it’s something there, yes, and he constantly reminded us of this, this is the second half of the 19th century, the composers of those who were called the mighty a bunch, especially musorsky, who actually... uh , probably inspired strovinsky the most, in fact, even while in

the united states, uh, i suddenly found out that the most played composer in the world is chikovsky, i didn’t know before that, i was so surprised, and i told my friend asked who is in second place , she studied classical music, she says, sorovinsky is in second place, rakhmanov is in third, this, this is a playlist of classical radio stations in america, you know, yes, that’s why, despite... despite the fact that we have a lot taken from english-language rock, this is, of course, a colossal school, colossal material with depth in its own way.

such a complex process, it continues to some extent, and as for modern music, we can say that everything there has been very much reduced due to leaks various stylistics, sub-stylistics, that is, this is such a branch - which already goes simply into subtle music, which is so specific that they, so to speak, dissolve themselves.

i don’t know where else the text is so developed , for example, in combination with music, but here it ’s definitely a very important thing, and you will agree, nikolaevich, that it seems to me that this is such a slightly clichéd perception that russian rock is more text or is it based on text, and the western one is based on music, so i just heard the opinion that this is too simplified

perception, especially western - there is such a thing , yes, few people know that in the english language there are more than 100... thousand more words than in russian, and shakespeare’s dictionary is larger than pushkin’s dictionary, so, but russian rock, it is without words are nowhere, just, you know, if there is no word, then there is no russian rock, in english rock, the word also meant a lot, there it was conceptual and cult performers and those who used the word masterfully became the performers, such groups as pink floyd, the same ledzeplin, for example, i was a child, i did not distinguish ledzeplin from depepol. i liked both of them, but when i was already living like this in the united states, i suddenly discovered that there were some gigantic giants, this is such a strong pop-rock band, yes, when the 90s came, then such a movement as alternative music appeared, there it was no longer possible without a word, there everyone paid attention to the word, although there

were words there too, it was not clear, he was talking, but nevertheless, everyone understood that he was talking about something... he’s trying to say something important, but in our country, the musical part probably suffered more often, so in general in our country, precisely from the point of view of rock, here we are - at first, when there was the soviet union, everything was generally prohibited, i just personally went through it, and then people just didn’t go deep into it, that’s why, probably, russian rock has

big... yes, then this will be what we are all waiting for, yes, there is consistency, yes, that’s how much, well, again, i don’t want to offend anyone, but in my understanding, but dostoevsky is this this is symphonic music, in any case, not necessarily, the same pink floyd - this, this such an organized dostoevsky, yes, yes, very fragmented, so they tried , so to speak, to dig up such philistinism, and so, in fact, they achieved a certain effect, of course, it reaches vastness... millions of times, i really liked the statement, i forgot his name, this is an actor who received five or six amy, it’s like in tv series it’s such an oscar, so he came to... orthodoxy, he says: i discovered dostoevsky, i often have to play scary people, some kind of scoundrels , so i suddenly realized that dostoevsky wrote about terrible things from

the perspective of light, yeah, this is very difficult, this is very difficult, and this is a huge strength, for rock music it’s just a colossal field of activity, and you agree that everything is still ahead for the russian rock? theoretically this is possible, but the way events are developing diplomatically reacted, no, well, i ’m just watching how music develops, uh, modern, it’s quite possible that at some level this will take on a slightly completely different leap, it will happen, another round, and it will be a different level of quality, don’t you think that this is still too binding for rock music?

regarding anything and everything that is happening now, with him are gogol, and pushkin, ilet tolstoy, in spite of everything, with gogal it’s even somehow easier for me, i can’t explain it, but just like that, intuitively... then nothing comes up for me, nothing sticks out to me, gogol, rock, i somehow understand it all somehow, gogol is punk in general, in my opinion, it has such a specific language, especially from the current point of view. and why? when i read, for example, classics , yes, literary ones, i notice how rich the language is, how everything is carefully built there, how everything is formulated there,

gogol has a very unique language, among the classics, i work undercover, i combine responsibilities of the operator, identification, show me, an abandoned building in the area of ​​the specific park, spotted. we need to check, what should we call you now, taxi driver in uniform, bombed in law, hands behind your head on the ground, for this a month you wounded four people , you broke the jaw of one of them, that was when, but you don’t remember everyone, yes turbin, the consequences for you will be as severe as possible, tell me, do you know this person, the taxi is... cover premiere tomorrow after the program time, is this the same one who ratted out his partner, or what? what have you

done? no one wants to work with him; behind the wheel he is like a duck to water. we are launching an experiment: a taxi, an undercover taxi, even a colonel, but is this legal? i have i had my own plans for this car, but they forced one problem on me. and you’ll fly out of here like a champagne cork, an interception plan has been introduced, an armed attack at the address north 27, it’s very likely that we have a new maniac, another corpse, and what should we call you now, a taxi driver in uniform, a bomber in law, unfinished cobboy, you yourself decided to start the investigation, persistent and quick-witted, so what kind of puzzle do we have here, why are you helping me, you wo n’t calm down until you catch them? and you what's the name? for you, i'm just a taxi driver. undercover taxi, premiere, tomorrow after the program, then you fell, something else,

well, this is how to live with you, well, you don’t live. vyacheslav butusov, alexey belov, i’m vladimir ligoida, we are talking about russian rock as a cultural phenomenon. i know, there is one more thing i want to talk to you about, about a personal journey, this... the first question, this is what you think, this is the spiritual quest that we obviously see in the life path of musicians in their work, this is connected to a greater extent with the generation, because this is a time of search, but the end of the eighties, the beginning of the nineties, and not only musicians went through this path, or after all, what you are doing left its mark, this is more of the reason, or or this and that and other things, what do you think? it’s just that sooner or later in the life of every person there comes a moment when, well, he begins to think more about what is happening in his life, how it is

happening. you begin to understand, so to speak, well, seeing over the years how this the world is developing, you begin to ask certain questions, in general , to be honest, for me the path of human attention is that we increasingly notice over the years how the world is in an alarming situation, if we take, for example, childhood and. .. school and i didn’t care much about what was happening around me, except that in the international panorama one could see some short excerpts about betlov, but i can say that this didn’t concern me at all, not only because i don't care it was interesting, but it was as if i was protected by some kind of force, some kind of cover, such , you know, such a mystical conventional cap...

to think how to protect myself, so to speak, so as not to completely dry up, in this world raging, then , of course, you wonder how this can be achieved, in fact, this is the path to god, but the most difficult thing is when you understand that yes, there is a way out, there is salvation, this is love, this is the path to god, yes, as i said . anthony of sourozh, at the last judgment, it will become clear to us that the only thing valuable in this life is love, so now, when you realize at this moment that you need to go to god, i’m not even talking about improving to such an extent as jesus said in his sermon, like our heavenly father, but to be perfect, at that

moment you... they are already throwing other things, that this whole field needs to be uprooted, and this is a very painful process, uprooting stumps and roots, it’s not like that, just like that, it crashed a little, it’s very complex, time-consuming and painful, and after that you can , so to speak, to plow this soil and sow it, well if i understand you correctly, you think that this is still connected with age, with generation, and not with '.

well, it’s good when, so to speak , we can stagger into theory, alexey nikovich, what do you think, now i’m just talking about personal search, it was more connected with time, what was in the air, in general or with what you were doing, like yours, i think that god determines everyone’s own path, leads everyone along this path, because when i came to faith, when, probably, the second one came for me, so... so the most important watershed, it was a meeting with the saint, with father nikolai guryan, well, with the great elder, so i had many questions, but one of them, since i had heard a lot about music, about rock and other things, it was in the bowels of the church, here and i went up to the priest and said, father, is my craft pleasing to god or not, so he smiled and said whatever, whatever, so he knew that

i was positive... i saw these bags, they put bags, bags, bags , it was just one day, and they told me, read this pile of letters, so i started reading, there were letters from all over the world, and almost all the letters were written like this, it was about just one song, thanks to you, this song helped me not commit suicide, this was my first positive experience, although i didn’t changed then, rock and roll remained, i still flew like a meteor for a long time, for several more years. here we go,

later there was a negative experience, and this is all part of the journey, that’s why i was just embarrassed and i needed to ask this question. but look, this is a question, it’s even, here we are today they remembered gogol, perhaps not by chance , yes, because gogol, without any fate, experienced this colossal internal conflict, and i think, here’s your question, my craft, maybe he said creativity, i don’t know, in some other way, whatever god, it’s not at all a fact that he answered it, and or it’s definitely not a fact that he answered the same way as you, yes, rather, he said my...

you see, the 14th-15th century were strict times, then it was already playing music was already considered a sinful thing, and although the conversation was, in general, by our standards, completely harmless things, just playing musical instruments , notes are also depicted there, so it seems to me that in this case this is a measure that a person chooses for himself, of course,

those who, who came there, and gogol is there, dostoevsky is there, they got there, they , they arrived, they jumped in, unlike the fat one, yes, yes, i think that maybe he did not ask the most important question from

one of these elders, but about his creativity, perhaps everything would have been in another way, i'm just saying, swearing is such a terrible thing, and... and i just why do you i want to go back, i asked there about the generation or whether it is connected with creativity, because that’s how it seems to me, god knows, maybe i’m being deceived, but it seems to me that my path, for example, is quite standard, that is, it’s after finishing school - this is russian literature , this is dostoevsky, when for the first time you begin to think there, then just at the end of the eighties they begin to publish russian philosophers whom we did not know, and you begin to read about the gospel, about the church there and the gospel itself, and then in some moment...

at least a few, well, this is a strong phrase, shlakinovich, i think that i came to church quite late in general, because uh , my fate turned out that way, that i lived for 15 years in

krasnoyarsk, where i was born, and i’ll be honest, i later tried to remember at least one church, i didn’t remember it, purely physically, i just didn’t meet a church on my way, which means either i didn’t see it. that is, my perception was so dulled, yes, or they really weren’t there, which is possible, because the city is up to... a new plus, so to speak the consequences of the bolshevik destruction, but nevertheless, here i came after college, after school, even after working as a specialist, an architect, and for a long time i perceived music only as an amateur performance, as actual entertainment for myself. alexey nikolavich, your phrase haunts me. that we had to go down to hell,

this is how you live now with these memories, that they are in your life today, that means you are trying to forget, no, they are impossible to forget, i think that you need to remember, you need to remember, so to speak, not to forget, this is all for a reason, it’s all part of the path, so the robber had to be crucified. next to christ , in order to understand who is hanging on the cross next to him , to shout to him, change, lord, to your kingdom, when you come to the kingdom, this is also a terrible path, he killed people, he definitely visited this, so , here, this time , the first to enter heaven, the world's largest investment corporation black rock, the black rock company places its people and extends its tentacles.

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about russian rock as a cultural phenomenon. vyacheslav butusov, alexey belov, i’m vladimir ligoi, and we continue. i want to return a little bit to the search for generations, because among people, yes, that means, in different spheres of culture. at the same time, when we were looking, we were all looking, yes, there were these searches in the cinema, and now we have a film about balabanov coming out. glory had an anniversary, that’s it gathered at my house. interviews were given, quietly, hello, hello, but here they are celebrating, no, no, glory, what are you talking about, i said the very top to the left, oh, sorry, you have, a person, experience, yes, interaction with him, that’s how , as you remember now, firstly, alexey and i knew each other for a long time.

a roll in the park without a dog, it can become too expensive for you, your mother teaches you by heart, the morgue phone number when she’s away, at home for too long, all this time, so to speak, we were watching each other, in the sense that he has a cinematic career was being built. and all this happened before my eyes,

he naturally, so to speak, observed what was happening with us, at a certain stage i already had thoughts, but somehow that we need each other, so to speak, to help just on this path, yes, on the path to god, i may not be a very good, so to speak, assistant in this sense from the point of view of eloquence, to say what is necessary. words, yes, but one way or another, in general, i tried to talk to alexey about this topic, but sometimes he had a categorical attitude for a long time, because he was very much ... inspired by cinema, for him it was a whole world in which he lived, ruled, everything else had, so to speak, applied significance to this, like it seemed to me, but as you can see, at the end, so to speak, of his path, relatively speaking, yes , professional and human, he

still came to this topic, i tried for a very long time to persuade him to film some kind of fairy tale or something like that . this, well, relatively speaking, yes, i even had options written various stories for synopses, and every time he told me that i’m not ready yet, i ’m not mentally ready for this, i want to, but i’m not ready, well, as a result, the last film is actually such a parable, by and large i mean, all this is already happening there in this abandoned bell tower, the film itself is the title...

everything, but because of the people who followed me, here’s a strange story, yes, i know, it’s closing in on me, you said it right, how to connect this with what we are talking about, that’s why for me russian rock is a continuation russian literature, let it inherit russian literature, because russian literature is what gives us a space of meanings and a language, yes, we speak with these images, we remember these heroes, and the same russian rock, yes, here are your songs, they are included into our lives. it’s interesting that soviet cinema was the cinema of our language , yes, post-soviet, as far as i am concerned , maybe many will not agree with me, but by and large, these are the films brother, brother 2, these are the ones that entered the language, to me it seems that here, too, it comes together, but these searches are some kind of deep, and well, the result, yes, when

something made by man becomes part of the language, of course, yes, but i also wanted to add that in addition to literature. after all, symphonic music is of great importance, i have been actively interested in this in recent years, and i can say that there is a lot of pressure in academic music, in symphonic music, which sweeps away even worse than rock music, you know, starting there for at one time it was just cool rock, time. this is just a specific example the fact that this is a bulldozer that you can’t easily fight against, look, we said about the bright future of russian rock, we said about symphonic music, but young people, let’s be honest, not all of them listen, young people are different, and any generalization it’s unfair

to someone, but still today they don’t listen to rock, as they did once upon a time and some time ago. now i may be sharpening, well, intentionally, but i don’t see continuity with the great russian music in modern russian music literature, with the great russian culture with russian rock, i don’t see it there, i’m wrong. at one time such a terrible word of music appeared, it appeared in the nineties, the word format, then everything began to be divided, because before that somehow everything was together, so if you take there, let’s say the seventies there... pop music and some kind of disc, it was all together, and then it began to be divided into formats, and then trends appeared, but rap didn’t just appear, you don’t need to know anything special, you don’t need study and music especially there, make yourself these beats, so to speak, there and then say what’s in your head?