in 1950, ilyushin was awarded the sixth stalin prize, a secret machine was developed, so the awarding of the award sheet was limited to only the wording for the development of the field of aircraft construction. here is another aircraft, i must say, an outstanding aircraft, simply, simply an amazing aircraft, il18, a long-range four-engine passenger aircraft. first flight. was originally designed as a passenger aircraft, and went into serial production from 1957 to 1985, the aircraft was the main one for a long time medium-haul airliner in the soviet union, everything was manufactured, now i ’ll tell you, in my opinion,

the crew, in my opinion, was 13 people, the aircraft was used for reconnaissance along the state border, was mass- produced from the year sixty-eight to the seventy-sixth, then went on at least a wonderful aircraft, the il-38, is an anti- submarine patrol aircraft, first flight in 1961, crew of 10 people, developed. to basel on the eighteenth, but 10

people, because there is special equipment, flights over water, and special equipment for searching for these same submarines, was mass-produced from the year sixty-seven, i think about five years, until the year seventy-two, it entered service - in the sixty-ninth year, a total of about seventy, i think, 65 aircraft were manufactured, further, well, the plane that everyone knows and that still flies... until now , the il-62 is a long-range passenger plane, first flight in 1963, mass -produced from the year sixty-six to the year ninety-five, 186 passenger seats, crew of five people, about 300 aircraft were manufactured, 289 or 290, i don’t remember now, 75 were built for export. yes, by the way, he

still flies to north korea and kimchen-in uses it with pleasure, it is his personal plane. this was the last aircraft designed and built during illuzhen's lifetime. during its existence, the ilyuzhenskaya company has produced 170, if i’m not mistaken, either five or 7 aircraft models, 170, almost 180, and not without reason the president. namely il-96, the company is still working on creating, well, the most reliable planes that exist, i want to go back for a second, that’s what i suddenly remembered, once upon a time, in my opinion, in the seventy- fourth year, maybe in the seventy- third year, i flew an l-14 plane. uh, we were then

studying at the moscow institute of civil engineering, last year, valery latoshev came to us, then he was, it’s good that i remembered him, then he was the compsorg of the star city, and invited the kvn missy team to fly to the garrisons of the military transport aviation with such concerts for their own, for mechanics, for airfield service, well, for those who are on the ground, we and... we flew, it was an amazing airplane, we found ourselves in different situations, well , simply because the weather was not very good, but the feeling of reliability of this board, there was one design feature , in which i spent almost 2 weeks, and the first pilot, co-pilot, flight mechanic, here is a flight engineer,

here is another one, which means a flight mechanic, here, here, and here is a flight engineer, between the birth attendant and the flight engineer there is a stool on... felt such, such an intoxicating feeling space, and the most amazing thing that ruined me for the rest of my life, and, probably, since then i have been stuck to the sky, is night, night landing at the airfield, when you are standing

here in complete silence, suddenly somewhere far away - far away, especially when it’s a military airfield, you can’t see the city lights, then suddenly there’s a small arrow far, far away ahead... you see it in absolute silence, there’s your house, and it’s walking in the glesada, it starts to go exactly to the end of the strip, a feeling incredible, i was sitting in the right seat of the co-pilot, i they were landing me, and i remember, our pilot was captain chubachenko, the second pilot was called sashka, but he was a wonderful, cheerful, young guy, he let me in the second seat. such a feeling, of course, i never, i didn’t, i didn’t touch the steering wheel, i didn’t hold on to the horns, i didn’t understand anything, i sat like this, but there was some kind of feeling of reliability, a feeling as if i was sitting at home i’m watching a movie in my chair, a movie about stars, about clouds, about the sky,

this, this is unforgettable, oh, if only someone could stand on this stool like that and look out in this cap, someone, oh, there’s a lump in the throat, here in front of you is the il-96, a special flight squad of russia, which serves the top officials of the state, works on ilyushin’s planes, someday, probably, we will be able to show you what’s inside this board, but we are now talking about the reliability of the car, if the president chooses the first person of the state to travel around the countries of the world and continents and... this is a big sign of quality, you can draw a star. on the air of the first channel podcast everyone wants to fly yakubovich, we say today is the 130th anniversary of the birth of the man

who glorified our country, the creators of a unique aviation company that still bears his name, il ilyushin. and lizhin had, as it were, a rather complex character, i, why can i judge this, i met a man who came when ilyushina passed away, came in his place, genrikh vasilyevich novozhilov, what novozhilov talked about about lyushina is simply, simply amazing, well, i can just give one example: when the question arose about a personal dacha, he said that the dacha would not two-story, and one-story, it is necessary to take care. people's money, by the way, all his life he professed only this, he always believed that work that gives pleasure is life, so talking about how long to be at work 8 hours, 9 hours, 12 hours does not make sense, because all this is

the existence of a person, that is, what he lives for, of course, family, children, everything is clear, but this, this is the main thing, that is, this is the air that a person breathes all his life. novozhilov talked about how he once came to sign a report, well, a request, but about vacation, and lyushin was so surprised, he was like, no, it wasn’t, it wasn’t ostentatious, he was just really surprised that a person was going on vacation, and what would he do there if his favorite thing is here, it’s amazing, it’s necessary to say that in his team all this was connected only with the pleasure he received. should have received his colleagues in business, he learned to play the button accordion solely so that in rare moments of rest, and even when he was in a sanatorium or somewhere else, he gathered his people around him to play for them on this the accordion itself or the button accordion. in

1970, he retired, handing over what he tore, as i said, to genrikh vasilyovich novozhilov, a man, by the way, also of amazing foresight. simply an amazing designer who held ilyushin’s company simply in his arms, and so brought this whole matter to his departure, this is... the seventh year, the company is still operating, during the existence of the company , about 175 have been produced to date , a little more aircraft, including all modifications, civil, military, aircraft transitional types and so on, 175, a phenomenal result, and can naturally be compared with aircraft manufacturers... class, but well , this is considered a very great result, he

passed away in the seventy-seventh year, which everyone who worked with him says with sadness , in fact, with sadness, ilyushin from the very beginning, from the central design bureau and before, now the planes have gone completely serious, no longer others, the planes have gone, which, well, how can i say, the older brothers of the il 96, they all talk about only one thing: a more reliable plane . probably not, that is, how to say, probably not, because you can still compare them with aircraft of a different design of a different modification, you can take a tupolev, they are not, they are different in characteristics, they are different in purpose, in all likelihood and even certainly in reliability they are the same, but they are just different, there are no such aircraft as these , and it’s not for nothing that these planes...

in number, but i’m sure that these machines will fly on the wing, and yet, still, we will be proud that we fly on such planes, just for the simple reason i repeat that this , i am not afraid to compare, these aircraft that were produced in our country, are being produced now, or equals reliability, tupolev equals reliability, yakovlev equals reliability. mil equals reliability, kamov equals reliability, all these are our planes that should be produced

here. it will be so, i believe in it. so, in fact, i believe that with the story about this man, i am sure of this, we will talk about those people who, just like him, glorified our country. tupolev, petlyakov, polyakov, yakovlev, mil, kamov, we will tell you. about these people, because you have to be proud the fact that the country gave birth to such people, that simply fate gave us such legendary personalities, there are many of them, there are many of them now, someday we will know their names, and many more cannot be said now, but of course we will remember them, and of course, of course we let's remember sergei pavlovits korolev, a man about whom, well, i think the whole world knows, nevertheless, we will remember them. we'll definitely remember. there was a podcast on channel one: everyone wants to fly. both me and the presenter, leonid

yagubovich. hello, this is the psyche podcast and we we continue to put together the puzzles of our lives, trying to find that formula. sometimes, but this was not enough for our heroine, at some point she decided

to change her quiet, calm office life to freelancing. many of us actually dream about this, it seems to us that, my god, what freedom, how cool, how great everything is, all fate, all our decisions are in our hands, but anastasia was faced with challenges that, in general, did not think. let's try to figure out whether she was psychologically ready for a change in this format, is each of us, well, according to our structure, according to our psychotype, ready? to what is called freelancing. hello anastasia. and our expert today, psychologist, professor, doctor of cultural studies, andrei zberovsky, will help you and me. why did you even decide to leave your homes, there were several of them, as i understand, everything was fine, stable. and suddenly there is such a sharp reversal.

yes, i have worked for more than half my life in hiring, in very large companies, and this is a company. level, federal scale, and my work was connected not only with some mass positions, let’s say, but i grew in my career, became an expert, developed, and the growth was, of course, in income, in principle, everything suited me, and i changed industries, i changed companies, the growth was very cool, gradually, of course, i wanted an increase in income and just some kind of expertise. further more, because i adapt quite well , i study very well, in particular, when covid began and we switched to a remote work format, i even moved to dagestan, that is, i worked and lived in another region, everything worked out, everything was great, probably the apotheosis of my career was the transition to a moscow company and the move

to moscow, and i myself was born in a small town in the tver region and... it was something like, wow, i’m in moscow in a large company, in a great position, i was already working with managers, that is, this is just such a significant growth, but i realized that there seemed to be less freedom, that is, i was moving to another region and i really liked this mode, the ability to move, that is, not always sit in the office, in moscow this need has appeared to be at work 24x7. yeah, and i’m not ready to pay that price for that position, the functionality that i received, and it ended up that at the end of september last year i went to freelance project work, but just here - at first there was euphoria, like you said freedom, sleep until lunch,

some kind of free movement around cities, exhibitions and so on, but... it turned out that it was as if they weren’t waiting for me there, that is, when you have work in hiring, a structured regime, and structured tasks, but there is no team here, i’m alone, and i need to build marketing, design a website, and do something else, that is, i need a team, so now i ’m looking at all of this at the moment and i’m wondering if they’ll go back to hiring, because well... there’s no result that we would like, naturally in finance, and in order to organize a team, again we need finance, that is, as if before going to this freelancing it was necessary to gather people, consult there with producers, coaches, i don’t know, psychologists, sketch out a plan, a budget, then little by little

it’s possible to switch from hiring to freelancing, well, that is, as if taking responsibility for yourself, right? from those bosses who told you to be at work by nine, to submit your report on time, yes, but how did you move on, tell me, before andrey begins to analyze your situation, here are a few more details, this is how you woke up in the morning and i didn’t i’m going to work, when i was working in moscow, i went to work on one project, and this project was suddenly closed, that is, they literally tell me that we are finishing tomorrow work. and then i also joked that i didn’t go freelance, but the job itself left me, that is , you can say that everything happened without me, the conditions for your stay at this job were just this project, yes, that is, no project, that means no your position, that is, after all , it was not your decision, it was a spontaneous decision, but you just thought about it, and then, well, how often does it happen, yes, that fate gives a magic kick, and we fly, that’s another matter

in what direction we are flying, as far as we have time, the company was specially assembled several people, who thought? most often, let’s say, there is such a typical freelancing mistake, it is connected with the fact that a person either continues his expertise, that is, the expertise that he accumulated in a previous job or works, or the person completely changes his expertise, that’s what you have there was an idea about your freelancing, you are in a new expertise,

students, that’s right, you probably didn’t register them, you probably didn’t pay taxes for them, your task was to prepare a course, yes training, conduct it well, maybe

test them there, well, that is, let’s fix it, that is, the first expertise is the same, i understand correctly, if a person is 80% the same, if a person retains mostly the same expertise, then the second important, most important step - this is to sharply increase your recognition, dramatically... in order for you to come out, that is, when you first need to invest in a name, that is, to separate yourself, when you leave the wall of your company, from its brand, you must become a brand, well no less, maybe even more, so was there any preparatory job? to expand your brand, there was no special work, the only thing i can probably note is that i began to be more active on social networks, and show my life, show myself as a person

, show cases, some work with clients, well, everything that i i can highlight, for example, show what i do, and tell what i can do to be useful to others, yes, well, the important question here is the scope of these actions, because, unfortunately, you are certainly not alone in the market. in your company, please do not move to a new one status, because while you are introducing people there to you, you will either run out of money, or run out of time, or run out of patience, and sometimes everything ends at once, but in fact, that’s why the second question is important here, the margin of financial strength for there was a lot of reserve to promote ourselves, to become a brand. uh-huh, it wasn’t calculated, well , the transition turned out to be spontaneous, there were no plans, so i ’m just whipping milk into butter like a frog,

that’s probably what i would think, now we can draw the first conclusion, yes, what if you keep in mind the option of going freelance while working for hire, then you need to prepare for this in advance by building a business plan, accumulating a financial cushion, yeah. in the name, starting to make at least a name, yes, because you look, if you weren’t ready for freelancing, what would you do, if you didn’t want to freelance, you would most likely go look for another job, right, that is , another office, from one office to another, but you take advantage of this situation, you read this sign of fate, it seems to you that you absolutely financially, professionally, psychologically ready, just to step into this icy ocean, in which there are both... a lot of opportunities, it is teeming with fish and treasures, and a lot of unknowns, and the first thing you don’t see is what’s there after 2 m , you can only calculate this, you could have thought it through, but here

you haven’t thought it through, it seems to me that two important aspects of this situation have affected us, i want you to help us figure it out with both, the first side is generally psychological readiness for drastic changes because very often we we become successful or get some. we will win an unknown prize contrary to all rational laws, simply out of fear, yes, here is the same frog that we have known since childhood, which beats with its legs, yes, it realized what it had done, it realized what it had gotten itself into, it began to wave its arms and legs, simply from enormous energy it came out, yes, but what our heroine tells us, you remember at the very beginning, she says, i started sleeping until lunch and going to exhibitions, you know, like a child whose parents left, completely.

this event, let's say, anticipation, yes, if a person expected that working as a freelancer would make life easier, yeah, then this is a big mistake, yes, a big illusion, for which people, as a rule, pay, and one must understand that freelancing is a way out of the comfort zone, and what’s more the way out is tough, sometimes you have to work two or three times more, as if at a stage, i always say, people, if you go into freelancing, you’ll be 30 or 35 or... no matter how old, that is, by point there is zero, yes, the beginning of a new life, if you are already tired of working, you’ve worked hard, you definitely don’t need freelancing, because you’ll have to work more there, but if you feel that i want to work, i want, i want, i want, i want, then of course you can, so what was it, what is it, what is your relationship with work, with a willingness to work, let’s see what yours were, except for exhibitions to sleep, nothing, i’m just beautiful, money,

money, money.

is there or not, let's start with a simple thing, it is basic, it is basic, i will be brief, that is, if you can, if you honestly answer yourself that this is how i drew conclusions, i i realized that i need to work directly, i repeat, we lay down, we ask the second question, is there communication skills, and communication skills, obviously, yes, but communication skills are, so to speak, in the working background, and there is such additional communication skills, which, well, with which actually money arises there, yes, because. i would even know, as i said, you asked a question about the command to do it yourself or pass it on, i realized that i now have a team of people, by chance, who, in principle, will help me continue to work, that is, you know how to set tasks, yes, and you know how to control, and they all meet your deadlines, i haven’t

tried it yet, but... again the question of control when you create your team, but at the same time you didn’t have a large reserve of forgiveness, you need to understand that there will be dissatisfied people in this team, to whom you may not pay much at first, maybe you understand less than they do about what they do and you can simply be deceived in this area, in fact, when a person goes freelance, it is important psychological option - stop being good, stop just smiling, you can just smile as an expert, you are an expert, everything is fine, if you are building your team, even more so.

we have to be honest about this, because i will, friends, let’s do this, this is the opinion of our expert, so i object, i object, it’s normal to be kind, we must not give ourselves, not give the opportunity to sit on our heads, yes, but we are kind we say in quotation marks, we are talking about the fact that you need to be able to demand, because otherwise an expert it will simply be robbed by employees who may not coincide with you in terms of goals and will not want to work there for you and create your name there, and in fact, that’s why you need to have it. high demands, because when you work in a large team, other people take on the demands for you, there are bosses, personnel officers, and therefore now you seem to be dissatisfied with them, and now you need to turn over like an hourglass to understand that you had one stress, and because the boss looked down on him, he finds fault with the report, the schedule is inconvenient and so on, suddenly here you hire two people and become this boss, boss, now the stress of

being the boss and the stress. try new roles, feel comfortable in these roles, but i emphasize that this readiness for new roles is the main one of the main secrets of freelancing, so please do not be afraid to be different if we do not master this option, unfortunately , the doors of freelancing will close in front of you and we will roll back to the previous position that in fact, how would you have it, this is the first and second, visualization of your future status is very important, visualization from whom? if it is so romantically illusory, like i sleep until lunch, go to exhibitions, then this is not a very good visualization, if there is such a visualization, i work a lot there, i have a lot of people, i have a lot of money, i have a complex dense graph, i study a lot, then this visualization visualization

works better, what kind of visualization of your success, say, in a year or two, as you see it, 5-7 hours of work a day with two or three days off, that’s how i see it... rich, friends, we, we’ll land this plan later, okay, listen, well, it’s definitely not 24x7 , there is still a schedule, i now understand that the schedule is easier for me, even if it becomes freelancing, but there is a team to which i delegated some of the functionality, in which i am not an expert. and, probably, there is a clearly designated time for rest, that’s what i would do now, i know that anastasia’s illusions and excessive romanticism will be cured. this is simply a contract that you will sign with your potential customers must

include severe penalties. as soon as you pay a fine twice more than the expected profit, you either run to hire, or all this, we’ll lose nastya completely. comfort, here is some understanding of comfort, at least microscopic, you have from the beginning of freelancing, or so far there are only tears and there is tension, disappointment, listen, there is comfort, because what do you measure in, right here , so specifically, if possible, well, this is an opportunity to be realized, because i nevertheless , it expanded its functionality and... perhaps this broad functionality is more interesting for me, because i not only have one audience of one company, but people from different fields come to me, i also get rich due to this and give it back more to your clients, well, plus you get to know other people,

they recognize you too, and tell nastya, if only you had not left, uh-huh, at that moment, what would you not have acquired, so if you had stayed. i would n’t acquire a huge number of acquaintances, but i would have a supportive environment i didn’t get it, didn’t they support you at work, well, there was support there, but it seemed different, that is, now your eyes are already wet from such emotions, undergo hardening, we give you such psychological training that will be useful to you in any in case we hurt you a little, you know, it’s such a joy, well, probably realizing it. presenting pain, let's call it as if pain is useful for understanding. and you know, the story is about when you are valuable not only within the work framework, but you are valuable in general as a person, this is probably a story about such support now, if we see your

eyes, and your tears a little, and again, this is absolutely, well, not a minus for you, this is just the degree of understanding of your reality - this is a very important competence for an independent path. because i don’t understand the potholes on this road, it’s difficult to go there, but it’s very important, if you experience discomfort, and apparently you do, it’s important in the team that you are forming, that is, it’s important either in the team find some person who will really become your right hand, you need , you know, such a bulldog-deputy, we delegate to the deputy, it could even just be your assistant, you know, who will say, you haven’t gotten up yet, well, like me about 8:30 negotiations , where are you telling you? some employee says anastasia, are you a freelancer or where? you must have already earned my salary, anastasia, i like where you are? this is a very important option, because this option either must be taken

by your employee, or it happens that that some of the freelancers are lucky, or people have such a strategy in advance, and we find one of your new customers there, some of them as an ally, but the person believed in you, the person turned out to be your strategic partner there so ska. there will probably be, yes, just like that, well, i said it out loud, it’s a betrayal, yes, but someone didn’t wait, for example, for the contract to be fulfilled, this happens, because when, especially when these are startups, only business begins, someone lured away by customers, this also happens, then there will be challenges that you were not prepared for in hiring, that’s how you need it psychologically, i’ll just even detail for you that most often in practice there are challenges, firstly, or maybe your close circle, mom, dad, friends may not ... support once, work colleagues whom you

previously considered friends may not support you, in addition, it happens that a person himself has not even had time to develop in freelancing, but those who started working for him, having realized that this is a gold mine, they leave you and begin to engage in the same activities, it can also be even more successful than you, so a set of betrayals, what natalya is talking about, is in fact what a beginning freelancer almost always faces, and here it is important to understand that either again, or you have. i call it the cocoon effect, because when a caterpillar tries to become a butterfly, it first isolates itself from everyone, it creates a cocoon for itself, it hears no one, sees no one, it is not interested in what is happening around, it makes its own internal transformation, and such, which allows her from caterpillars to become a butterfly, so either you... you have support in the form of a friend, one ally, or you are completely

isolated, clenched your jaw, as they say, and walked, this is a difficult path, which strategy is more comfortable for you, anastasia, what is closer to you, what is more real to your story, not in the house, this is the wrong metaphor, not in the house, you are in this, you know, in an armored train, closed and rushing, at this stage, right now i felt what you say, andrey, thank you very much, here you go now the psychologist gave a very correct instruction, you know? so we speak louder, words, i am an armored train, we speak more harshly, i am an armored train, even tougher, we do the training here, it’s like we are in training, listen, it’s a really cool setup, i like it, i charged up, the tears dried up immediately as soon as the armored train sounded, the tears have dried, it turns out it works, or what? yes, it works, because millions of people have followed your path before you, you’ve already got big shoes to fill, and bicycles have already been invented, it’s very...

this is a podcast of the psyche, my name is natalya losyeva, we continue to analyze the story of our heroine anastasia. nastya, when you made this decision, well, i understand that it was forced. there they generally discussed who supported you and who did not, that is, you simply presented a fait accompli, yes andrey, and if nastya had gone to talk about this idea, i understand that there was a largely forced story there, but nevertheless, all the options whether it was important or unimportant to go and even discuss your plans with your grandmother, i don’t know, with a cat, with a neighbor, with a younger colleague, even if they just now forced to... there is such a practical side: if anastasia

had always consulted with others in her life, yes, she always tried to find the ground under her feet, that very support group, then it would be more correct to begin a new cardinal path, in this in the case of freelancing, it would be more correct to create this ground under your feet here, but if anastasia had never consulted with anyone before, everything happened radically, then of course you can remain in this position, anastasia, what are you like, how did you live before , you probably should was... to consult, that is, you still consulted before, yes, but when you work in a team, you are in any case talking about someone, now i think that probably what was missing was just a person who could come, talk, write a plan according to the plan, go to work, which would ask the right questions, that is, work with objections, where would be yes, where respectively, where is nastya, but think about it, look, in this conversation several useful tips, several key technical points would be born.

use as a technique, in fact, when you come for advice, and as you very accurately said, you are talking about someone, it is not so important what you hear in response, write down for yourself immediately after the conversation, what questions caused the most acute reaction in you? yeah, and the more negative the reaction, the sharper it will be, the more irritating this question will cause you, even if it comes not from a colleague, not from an expert, but from a mother, grandmother or some... person who in general, you don’t feel like a tipster in this area, so the more likely it is that that this is a story that has not been worked through for you, that your subconscious, your intuition tells you, nastya, you are now annoyed not because

the question was stupid, because not because you are incompetent, but because you feel anxiety inside yourself, yeah. something here is unclear to you, it’s just that your expectations are optimistic, illusory, they tell you, they lull you to sleep, don’t pay attention, close your eyes, sleep until lunch, you’re beautiful, everything will be fine, the money will come, yes, it’s on its way, way, just take it, but i want you, oh what to ask, look, there are two such, two types of approaches, the future in business, in life, by the way, too, that means some managers, super-optimists, they are like, yes, everything will go great, don’t worry, tune in to the positive, visualize the ideal the result, then, when the result is not ideal, then there are happy people

who don’t care, don’t care, but there is someone who is frustrated, worried, there is another type of people who say, so... uh, here goes wrong, here is a risk, here is a threat, here they will set you up, here they will let you down, here and got burned, oh well, or there we are working along the most pessimistic path, it seems like they have a high probability of winning, but at what cost, and at the price of this neurosis, tension, irritation, well, or missed opportunities, that’s how...

what there in hiring, that is, those who see more , as it were, risks, they end up not going out on the road, more often the strategy works when a person somewhere is a little optimistic, a little naive, but in this case, here we are for this paid attention today, allies are important if, when faced with reality, you we saw our gaps, we definitely need an ally, so your optimism plus an ally, who just might be grumpy, sees the risks, this is exactly collaboration.

it seems like a step back, but maybe not, you know, i emphasize, practice shows that a successful start occurs on average in only 10-15% of 100 possible, i repeat, that is , about 80-90% of people... .