and, of course, russian national interests. it was a great game, we'll see you on the air tomorrow. i am proud that i live in such a beautiful country that we have so many regions, so many...

hello everyone, this is a free program podcast, i’m maxim toronkov. and our guests are lyosha, masha, our joy, maria petrova and alexey tikhonov. hello guys, hello, hello, maxim, our joy is who we were before, probably, but the joy has not disappeared from us anywhere. okay, just recently the russian challenge tournament ended this spring, where, after all, you again gave joy to your beloved viewers in st. petersburg. it seems to me that you felt the same as before at the competition. in the evenings. the hedgehog and

the bear cub would gather at the hedgehog's, then at the bear cub's, counting over something and saying how good it is that we have each other, yeah, hedgehogs, and you will hear and scream, little bear. i will definitely, you hear, i will definitely come to you, no matter what happens, i will always be by your side, why are you silent, i believe, hedgehog, little bear. no, it was very

great, very interesting, very exciting, for me, for you it was exciting, well , of course exciting, because we haven’t been on competitive ice for many years, and this is just like that, well, unexpected, exciting and interesting, it was interesting to be in general in this environment with young guys and to feel it all from the inside, it was scary, it was exciting, but then the first notes sounded... musical notes and everything, and we went into this story, and it seemed to me that we did it quite well, thanks to basically a brilliant idea in my opinion, because - in general, thanks to this idea we participated in this project, so maxim, thank you very much for giving such an idea, and this is exactly what we could to do it precisely in terms of physicality and in terms of acting, and it seems to me that we all succeeded in doing this together.

well, in fact, it’s also not entirely 100% my idea, it’s somehow our collective mind of figure skating fans won, and i’m very happy that you got such a bright number, by the way lesh, when you came with with this proposal to masha, what was her reaction, very positive, because we both adore this cartoon, this story, and we somehow got excited, started looking for moments, because the way alexey chatted... the greatest actor, soviet, russian, begins this fairy tale, it’s fantastic, and we initially thought, maybe this is his voice, albeit brilliant, no, there wasn’t his voice for the whole text, he just started in the cartoon, this story, then other voices came, we wanted would have to, but because maxim tronkov suggested that we take words from another fairy tale by the same author, words:

incredible words, very poignant real words, words that tug at you inside, here they are, so many people came up to us, to us who saw this number and said : what, listen, guys, well, this, if you’re not there, then i’m not there, like this, this, this is very cool, so we had to voice it ourselves, but at first it was also scary how it would turn out, alexey’s voice i i've heard it all the time and i know exactly what he has it will work out, but thank you, but how on my part it will be possible to voice a hedgehog, in principle, i did not understand, i did not doubt maria petrova’s voice. because it seemed to me that this was a hit, that it was very suitable, however, there was one professional who said, no, don’t babysit, do n’t babysit, don’t babysit, because yes, because you start when you go into a cartoon and you try to be a little

like cartoon characters, but we wanted, we wanted from the outside, maxim, we wanted, yes, for it to be natural, human, so that this, besides... that this is the hedgehog-bear cub, so that it is masha and lyoshka. well, when this idea just came, why did i immediately say, petrov and tikhonov should do it, because it’s impossible to imagine you without each other, that is, if you love figure skating, and you say petrov, then you mean tikhonov, if you say tikhonov, then you mean petrova too. tell us how you met in general, how it happened, i know that this is a very interesting story, 2024 is in the yard today, the world cup is already in 1994 took place in japan and there in another century praktovich and there we first met i skated for japan with a japanese partner,

who was even a little shorter than maria petrova, meter 48 she was yuka kawasaki her name, and she and i competed for japan , took an honorable fifteenth place, maria petrova and... and i’ll honestly say i was envious and well, in a good way envious, i understood that they had a great future, that this couple who would be in the future would probably be like katya gordeeva and seryozha grenkov, they were like that, and could i imagine that now

masha and i have been together for more than 20 years, not right away, not quickly, not right away, not quickly. attempts, well , many already know this story, so god bless her, but it appeared in the end, and something was like that, something happened when we joined together on the ice, while it was still only on the ice, and it was some kind of fire, because masha was very flexible in terms of creativity in terms of searching for some interesting things, features that... that were, were not located somewhere, but basically there are some elements that belong namely maria petrova, alexei tikhonov, we are very pleased, and if someone tries to do them there or is doing them, now in figure skating, it is always

very joyful and great, but i want to say that i liked it when we looked at each other before the start in the eyes, before going out, you know this... well , it seems to me that many people do this in couples, because this, well, eye contact is probably the main thing that people can have who are now going to fight and prove that they the best, well, yes, we just had a ritual, they held hands, looked at each other like that watched while the announcer announced us, sometimes they even said something to a friend, and we watched you live on the tv screens, we were very, very worried and sick, but i also want to say: what is very important, when in the program itself, yes, in the very skating, these are these sparks that exist between a partner, a partner, between a woman and a man, they spark the entire program, and it’s such a cool feeling

when a couple becomes something unified, something unique, and this happens just at the moment. i'm always right here i basked in it, but not, probably, maybe not during the program, and then you, when you evaluate what happened, if, god willing, it turned out... a successful skate, then it’s just delight, inner delight, and you you hear the audience receiving you, you feel that the judges are already quietly taking your side, this is great, this is probably an art that you learn constantly, that is, you can’t say, that’s it, we are perfect in this.

it won’t work all the time, probably, well, you rode for 2 years and became world champions in 2000, no, to the point that initially they began to think that it was very late, then it seems to me that they hung some kind of label that it was too late and somehow they didn’t take us into account, only as a last resort, as a last resort , if suddenly something happened, they didn’t take us into account, but we still rode for about 9 years in some other way. enjoyed the ride maria was our second olympic games, the first

saltake city was 2002, we took sixth place there, the second olympic games, 2006, i am thirty 35, maria, respectively 29, 29 it was years, well, i also not only didn’t expect that we would get to this point, but there was an opportunity, that is, the younger generation allowed us to hold on a little longer, a little, and it was delight, it was pure happiness to get to the second olympic games , which took place in turin, it was a very real holiday, for us it was a holiday, although it’s not for you to tell us, but nevertheless, the skaters and all the athletes are such green people, they walk like that before competitions, then when everything finishes... if everything still ends perfectly, people blossom and fly on

the wings of this, this joy, spirituality, and well, great, in general, i remember how i was rooting for you, we were already training in the same group and you i think we were third after the short one, after the short one, we so-so wished for everyone 5 that you would keep it now i actually remember, i say, it ’s good that it happened, what on... what - a little bit, not a little bit, wrong

choice was on the musical composition for the olympic season in the free program, although they hinted at this to us, we were so stubborn that the competitions are taking place in italy, we want italian music, stubbornness sometimes leads to what, what does it lead to, that is, then they changed it to the world championships, almost we won, and tatyana tarasova, by the way, we talked to her in zone m'. food, yes, where all the athletes, coaches, all the olympians come, she says: listen, guys, well , change it, we are like this, maybe return the vevaldi to us, she says, of course return it, we are like this, and how will we change it, she says, and you try it.

problems with the throw triple loop in the short program, let's see if she can have solid landing here, and that was as good as it gets, look at the quality, by the way, thanks to this program we skated, it was a very good skate at the but on the feeling that we had to skate really well there, and it was very important for us, and we skated both programs very well after the olympics, and even our opponents, who really didn’t perform, who really, xushen hongbojao, sat, they were sick for our own the chinese watched figure skating, the world championships, they said, guys, you are the best today,

it was, for me, for us it was just such an award and... they directly shook our hand, they said: today you are the best, and the judges gave us a bronze medal, for which i thank them, but they decided on some of these nuances, but this is not so important anymore, it’s important, it’s important, because for me it was the first world championship, for me as an adult, 2006, and tatmya and namarin didn’t we came, we didn’t go after winning the olympics, and now i came with a spare tire there as the third number and saw how unfair life can be in figure skating, precisely in... your example, unfortunately, is the best, the new season, on sunday on the first, the snow is still white in the fields, and in the spring the waters are noisy, running, waking you up sleepy shore, they run , shine and shout, they scream in all directions,

spring is coming, spring is coming, we are the messengers of the young spring, she sent us ahead, what, where, when, the spring series of games, on sunday on the first, uh, for those who i just joined us, let me remind you that our guests are honored masters of sports, maria petrova and alexey tikhonov. let's talk a little about your daughter, because you have polina, a member of the russian national team, not much, not little, i don’t know, it seems to me that she has been the second reserve for a long time, but it was a very good season.

yes, it was a good season for her, she was in the first year, the first year she qualified for a candidate master of sports, the first subseason, yes, what, 14 years old, 14 years old, yes, 14 years old, she turned 14 in february, on february 1st ... and somehow she approached this responsibly, you know that before this she was somehow hanging out, hanging out, here this year she’s just got something going on she got better in her head, she started working differently, do you remember last year, even last year you called her what you called her, pax myrta, because if something didn’t work out, she finished this this year , it’s practically impossible for her to i began

to somehow consciously rethink, listen and well done, i got involved, well , how do you... train your own child, but the devil knows, no, it’s hard, because you want to regret, when you don’t need to regret, you want to let go earlier, sometimes with training when it’s not necessary, i don’t know, s this is probably difficult because parents can still let go of the situation a little, never put pressure, for example, because you feel a little sorry for yourself, you complement each other, a good bad cop or not, who is a good coach, who is a stricter coach, why? you scream again, i say, well, i came and see that everything, the work has stopped, i think we need to somehow make our contribution to push for something to move somewhere, although she then says, well done mom, because we're really giving something back, yeah no, i also try enough with her, well, i

don’t have conflicts, i guess, but sometimes i can even scream, because when a person is completely... 14 years old, she can turn on such mischief as a girl, just don’t say that she’s all a mother, no, by the way, i don’t have any harm at all, it most likely exists, you have such stubbornness, it seems to me that now she has already learned a little to share that we are not on the ice, not mom and dad, but sometimes she snorts, there he can do something, well , he goes, does it, and i think, yes, snort, snort, do the main thing, right away, how - no, sometimes now sometimes you can’t stop her, yes, she ’s like you’re stuck there somewhere, she urgently needs to jump something, today, i say, heaps of triple axels, enough, today it’s not working out very well, enough, let’s stop, she growled, said something to herself, went, made 10 more attempts there, well , two of them hooked, for example, but this, we really appreciate it, we understand that this

perseverance without it will go nowhere without a certain number of attempts, well, it won’t, without difficulty you can’t even pull a fish out of the pond, you probably don’t have enough patience, but it’s gotten better, now there’s such competition , there’s a huge number of quadruple jumps. already at the junior level, maybe that’s why seeing all this, it still makes her work, and also the closeness of the fact that her parents are stovemen at any moment, once they find a partner, no, i’m for it, and masha says she’ll go dancing, i i say, what kind of dances, what are you saying, although she is of course very danceable, in pair skating the question is how much she will grow, because after all, our dad is tall, my mother is not tall, therefore... on what, on what edge will she stop and how tall will she be, we will build on this, while she doesn’t want to join the pairs or dance, she says, i ’ll still jump, she watched how the saffron milk caps

were training , the wives are swearing, that’s good, she didn’t see us training, although she sometimes sees us at home, so she says, no, i’m not very good in a couple, no, well, now i’m already a little interested, it seems to me, she’s a little interested, she’s watching because she often rides. on desk ice, let's see, yes, the only thing i still want to say about polina is that she has, i even envy this, she has - she really loves to perform, and this is not the same, yes, frequently encountered qualities, yes, when you come out, here she is amazing, she has a plus start, which she, she gathers, concentrates, yes, maybe there are some mistakes there, but it doesn’t matter, but... yes, she knows how, she knows how to somehow drip, yes, she performs with pleasure, i can’t help but ask how you decided to make your daughter a figure skater, having gone through such a difficult

thorny path, we didn’t dare, we didn’t dare , we were so happy, it means we bought skates for my grandmother at 3.5 years old, like, come on, she went out, rode something, no, she was very excited, she rode, now i’ll go , yes, now, now , as soon as i get out, as i’ll do now, i went out through there, well, two steps and plopped down, so how? it doesn’t work out that way right away, like this dad on the handle, i gave her a ride, she liked it, she was like: “well, that’s it, more, she had no more desire to go on the ice, we were like, well, in general, thank god, we're like, okay that's it, well, grandmothers are always, well , let's give her away, let's, well, in general , we've had her for 5.5 years, after all, it's too late, yes, yes, yes, they took her to the group, she started studying, oh, i 'm i just remember, somewhere, probably a month for sure, maybe even a couple, it ’s your child standing there, your little daughter, looking at you before training, it’s in her eyes that’s why you’re doing this to me, you know, no, and i

really remember how i didn’t like her, for example, she means, the main thing was to put her in the hall so that she would stay there, and that means i went in there and closed the door and held it so that she wouldn’t back up , it means you skated in big-time sports, you had a wonderful career, then... life began in the ice age and in ilya verbukh’s ice shows and performances, now less and less than you are now working globally in your life, i won’t say that lyosha is also an actor, it was a hobby, so yes, we won’t, but this is a very big science, which continues to help me in my life in the profession, now at some point... we came to the point that everyone said that it was necessary to do this earlier to do it, because coaching is a great art, the coaching

profession is an incredible job, well, they were probably not ready yet, so yes, it seems to me that you still need to come to this yourself, you know, some people say, but you don’t feel that yet you can join this, start doing it, because coaching is a completely different story and... and well, don’t wait, i didn’t come from ours either, i completely agree with maria, because i didn’t come to this, y i just, well, that’s how it happened. coaching, yeah, teaching athletes, yeah, figure skaters do something on the ice, and when teaching them figure skating, it’s still a process, every day you learn on your own and you learn to find technical aspects, you learn to find words, psychological moments, but this is all such an endless process, very interesting, very difficult,

sometimes complicated and... monstrous, yes, but it’s true, it’s very interesting, for me, now i ’m working with the guys, those who, the owl, the wives , managed to work a little with you during the olympic season, now sasha baykova, dima kozlovsky, they hear, they try study, i mean athletes.

it will work out and it will work out, you need to have incredible patience and the ability to wait, the ability to wait, sometimes not to rush, sometimes on the contrary to push, in general, great art, this is coaching, undercover taxi , premiere, tomorrow after the program time, chanson, this is not easy for you so, they need to do it, shalom, my friend, shalom, let the bar for...

three chords, new season from april 14, on the first. this is a free program podcast, our guests are european and world champions, maria petrova and alexey tikhonov. you're just in time generation were at the top when coaching tandems were fashionable and very productive, for example, we are talking about the moscow spouses,

the velikov spouses. yes, specifically in pair skating, we never thought of trying , maybe training pairs together, yes, we always think about it, yes, it’s just that alexey is working and i’m training the children right now, yes i’m currently working, studying, and of course i’m waiting until alexey invites me, maybe i can help him i invite you maria just like that with great pleasure i invite you and because advice masha - in all some of the nuances of pair skating, clear comments are very important to me, yes, sometimes i can be very risky , i’ll come and say everything, everything, everything, he says , well, how did we spend an hour there, well, i’m talking about polina, let’s say we did it for an hour, i i say, well , this is bad, everything is bad, he says how bad i say, well, it’s bad, you did it, there’s no way there, i’m a little offended, then i start to think.

i understand that i’m right, because she’s a devil, and something is changing and getting better, it’s nice, but i think, well, i have to say right away that, so as not to delay and prolong this pleasure, no, right away, to redo everything at once, to make it look good for the athlete and watchable for the judges and spectators, but it seems to me that it is still difficult for us to explain to the girls some things that we ourselves have not felt . no, i just took it off the tongue, from the partner’s point of view, exactly, yes, the partner’s point of view in the learning process, this is very important, i often consult with masha there on potodos, on emissions, on supports and other elements that are important, and this helps a lot, and of course, it seems to me that well, here we are working,

we still have to work and yes, but in the coaching profession also, tell me, do you get very worried when polina skates? no, well , it’s incredible, of course, well, because it’s also our own, i brought out other children and brought out my own, and when they say that, for example, you breed the same thing, they say that it’s someone else’s, that it’s yours, no, it’s not, it’s not this, it’s generally felt the difference is still there, yes, you worry about the children, but when it comes out... your ride, then it’s completely different emotions, you just feel her from the inside, now she’s already here and you understand that she didn’t finish this, well, now she can do something bad, with others you still can’t feel them, because i’m polina’s mother, i know her , i know when she’s not in the mood

or whatever, and this, probably, can also interfere, so there’s excitement, but how joyful it is when your athletes cope, including our daughter, with the assigned coaching task, and have.. .plus they put something else of their own in there, you’re just flying on wings, such joy, happiness, satisfaction from - the work done, i wanted to say, i’m satisfied with what happened, it worked out, and it’s great, you joined the team incredibly quickly, you just started coaching at the olympic games... i was worried about the couple, with where you work, that is, this, he is incredibly lucky, you just understand, the one who is lucky will be lucky, but this experience, it is impossible, how can i say, to underestimate it, that is, it’s really cool,

now sasha and dima, yes, that is, too strong pair, leaders in russian doubles skating, what do you think, what do you and i need to do to...

develop maxim, only god knows, probably eter geordan here beririnza, you and i are there personally, i will make efforts to ensure that they still want to get windy a little bit of some kind of lace in skating - constantly add, because the power, the incredible pressure, the strength, it’s all there, of course. they are fearless, the stamina of people is off the charts, this is great, but here’s a little bit about the communication of this in a couple, which they stick to, but at the same time

i would like to add a little chemistry, yes, i’m right , the right word, the chemistry of this communication, which is perceived not only by the eyes, but is perceived. also with soul and heart, i mean the viewer, i mean the judges and i mean the coaching group, so, probably, we need to work in this direction, because they are great fellows, sasha and dima, that yes, we don’t force them , sasha went, things are special underpants, and we are like, where are you going, she says, do a quadruple throw, train, i ’m happy, i don’t talk about it, but i’m very i’m glad that... that i myself, that it’s not the coach who says, yes, that you yourself, it’s very important, by the way, to hear a response from the students , if you kind of want it, but sometimes you don’t give the task, it comes up and says there, and i’ll go, i’ll go, i’ll try to do a quadruple throw, well, yes, it seems to me

that it’s much easier for a coach to stop than to force him to do something, going back to the spartokiada, where the guys skated well, there was an annoying mistake at the end , which did not allow there, does not allow us like that. directly praise them, but it seems to me that another barrier has been broken, because as in pair skating, when two partners or in ice dancing stand together, a certain period of grinding occurs, for some it... quickly, for others... then it slowly develops, with a coach it’s the same thing, that is , athletes come, especially a couple, and if i didn’t have such a moment since the second world war, because they grew up before my eyes, and i always helped them there and advised them with their very formation, even earlier, when i was skating with another partner, and here it’s like a ready-made pair came to me and they were people completely unfamiliar to me, let’s put it this way, and of course this moment seems to me a little... during the grinding-in, it also broke down somewhere in the second half of

the season, that is, we began to hear each other more friend and understand, so i think that maybe next year let everything be fine, let everything be fine, so that we don’t kick out the athletes, we’ll also bring petrova up, no, so that you don’t lose anything, that you’re really like you speak, hear each other, because if the athletes move away and they don’t hear the coach or, on the contrary, the coach moves away a little, there must be this tandem that does not violate any boundary line. just hold it, everything will work out, wow, well done, it amazes me, anyway, i look and marvel at this beauty of sports, the beauty of figure skating, i’m so glad that i’m involved in this, i’m so glad that young girls and boys so beautiful, thanks to sports, well, figure skating in particular. adults too, because i

admire it, i'm just glad, hats off to all these people who work so hard, they have the opportunity to show this beauty, give it away, yes, but i can’t help but note the large , very professional team that gives us the opportunity to see this to millions of television viewers throughout our country. i’m sure that all over the world this is all being reviewed, because well, channel one is great, because it shows figure skating, these people show figure skating, these people, these masters and professionals, no one shows it, you know, the gold medal, well, we we can talk for a long time about figure skating with you, but unfortunately, we also have to say goodbye, time is not rubber, thank you very much for coming to visit us on the podcast. come again, see you at the skating rink, thank you, thank you,

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