can you imagine, i say, it would be like this, if yes, in the free program, if, let’s say, only you made a mistake or only i made a mistake, well, how would we live together now, how would you look at each other so sincerely, and sincerely look at each other eyes, it seems like both of them made a mistake, there’s a salchow, in my opinion, lyosha, i didn’t do a salchow, i did a double salchow, he did a double salchow, but no, but the olympic games are great, probably our mistake was that.. . a little bit, not a little bit, the wrong choice was on the musical composition for the olympic season. free program, this is exactly what they hinted at, but we were so stubborn that the competition was taking place in italy, we want italian music, that’s stubbornness, but sometimes it leads to what, what does it lead to, then we changed it to the world championships, by the way, we they communicated with her in probes where.

athletes, coaches, all the olympians come, she says: listen, guys, well, change it, we are like that, maybe in wewald we can return it to us, she says, of course return it, we are like that, but how will we change it, she says, and you try ,

it was very important for us and we skated both that we had to skate really well there and the programs were very good after the olympics and even our rivals who really didn’t perform were sitting there, rooting for their own. the chinese were watching figure skating, the world championships, they said: guys, you are the best today, it was, for me, for us, it was just such an award, they directly shook our hand, they said: today you are the best, and the judges gave us a bronze medal , for which we thank them, but they decided on some nuances like this, but this is not so important, important, important, because for me it was the first world championship for me as an adult, 2006, and tatmyarin did not come, did not go after winning the olympics. so i

arrived there as number three with a spare tire and saw how unfair life can be in figure skating, using your example, unfortunately, for those who have just joined us, i will remind you that our guests are honored masters of sports maria petrova and alexey tikhonov . let's talk a little about your daughter, because you have polina, a member of the national team russia, not a lot, not a little, i don’t know, almost. i think the second sub is there, but ah, but it was a very good season.

yes, it was a good season for her, she was in her first year, the first year she became a candidate for master of sports, this is her first season, yes, that ’s what, 14 years, 14 years, yes, 14 years old, she turned in february, february 1 she turned 14, and somehow she approached this responsibly, you know, before that she was somehow hanging around, hanging out, then this year something just changed in her head. she started working differently, remember in in the past, even last year, you called her what you called her, crybaby myrtle, because if something didn’t work out, she’s done with this, this year it’s practically not there at all, so that she begins to somehow consciously rethink, listen and well done, she got involved, well, how do you even train your own child? god knows, no, it’s hard, because you want to feel sorry, when you don’t need to feel sorry, sometimes you want to let go earlier. when it’s not necessary, i don’t know, it’s

difficult, probably that parents can still let go of the situation a little, never don’t add pressure, let’s say, because it becomes. i feel a little sorry for myself, do you complement each other, are you a good bad cop or not, who is your good one, who is a stricter coach? for some reason the politician thinks that i, you came again in a bad mood, you’re screaming again, i say, well, i came and see that that’s it, the work has stopped, i think i need to somehow make my contribution to press somewhere - then something has moved, although she then says: mom, well done, because yes, we really are giving back, no, i’m also trying enough with her... well, i don’t have conflicts, i guess, but sometimes i can even shout, because when a person is just 14 years old, she can already turn on such girlish harmfulness, just don’t say that she’s all mother, no,

by the way, i don’t have any harmfulness at all not at all, most likely you have such good stubbornness, it seems to me that now she has already learned a little to share that we are not mothers on the ice. i sometimes snort something , maybe, well, he goes, he does it, and i think, yes, snort, snort, do the main thing, right away , no, sometimes now sometimes it’s not stop, yes, she’s like, you’re going to run into something there, that she urgently needs to jump something, today, i say, heaps of triple axels, that’s enough, today it’s not working out very well, that’s enough, let’s stop, she growled, something- then i went there to myself, made another 10 attempts there, well, two of them were hooked, for example, but this - we really appreciate it, we understand that this perseverance without it will go nowhere without a certain number of attempts, well, it won’t, without difficulty you can’t even pull a fish out of a pond, you probably don’t have enough patience, yes, but it’s gotten better, well

now there is such competition, a huge number of quadruple jumps already at the junior level, maybe that’s why seeing all this, it still makes her work, and also the proximity of the fact that her parents are toparniks in any field. the moment they find a partner, no, i’m for it, and masha says, she’ll go dancing, i say, what kind of dancing, what are you talking about, although she’s certainly very good at dancing, in pair skating, the question is how much longer she’ll grow, because after all, her dad us is tall, mom is short, so on what side, on what side will she stop and how tall will she be? to push away from this, while she doesn’t want to join pairs or dances, she says: i’ll still jump, she watched how the saffron milk caps were training, arguing, that’s good, she didn’t see us training, although she sometimes sees us at home, so she says, no, i’m not very good in pairs, no, well, now i’m already a little interested, it seems to me,

she’s a little interested, she’s looking, because she often skates on partner ice, let’s see, yes, the only thing i still i want to say about polina that she has, i even envy this, she loves very much to perform, and this is not like that, but the qualities that are often encountered, yes, when you go out, she’s amazing, she has a plus start, which she, she gathers, concentrates, yes, maybe there are some mistakes there, it doesn’t matter , performs with pleasure, i can’t help but ask how you decided to make her your daughter.

we are like, well, in general, glory, in general, we are like, well, good, that’s all, well , grandmothers all the time, well, let’s give it away, let’s, well, in general, 5 years old, we still have it , it's late, yes, yes, yes, they took me to group, she started training, oh, i remember it straight away, probably about a month for sure, maybe even a couple, this is your child, your little daughter, looking at you before training, there’s a look in her eyes ... why are you doing this to me, you know, no, yes, i really remember how i didn’t like the ofp, for example, she, so the main thing was to put her in the hall so that she would stay there, and that means i, she i went there, i closed the door and held it so that it wouldn’t back up, so you skated in big sports, you had a wonderful career, then

life began in the ice age and in ilya verbukh’s ice shows and performances, now less and less. what are you doing now globally in your life, i won’t say that lyosha is also an actor, it was a hobby, so let’s not, but this. a very great science for me, which continues to help me in life in the profession, now at some point we came to the point that everyone said that we should have done this earlier, because coaching is a great art, incredible work, the coaching profession, well maybe they weren't ready yet so yes, it seems to me that you still need to come to this on your own, some people say, but you don’t feel yet... that you can join this , start doing it, because coaching

is a completely different story and we told the coach in general and well, don’t wait , i didn’t come with ours either, i completely agree with maria, because i didn’t come to this, i just got into coaching, yes, teaching athletes, and teaching figure skaters something on the ice, teaching them figure skating . anyway, this is a process you learn every day yourself and learn to find technical aspects, you learn to find words, psychological aspects, but this is all such an endless process, very interesting, very difficult, sometimes complex and monstrous, yes, but it’s really very interesting, i’m now working with the guys, those who... . with vova so that they... zhenya managed

to work with you a little during the olympic season and uh, now sasha baykova, dima kozlovsky are listening, trying to learn, uh, i mean athletes, not specific ones, everyone in general, but, but they do it as it suits them, yes, that’s the task, the task is to do tried to do what you tell them, it’s incredibly difficult when the coach wants to be there all the time, well, patience, patience, i think i’ll come, but i definitely have enough patience, but no, i had to, and you also need to learn patience, because well, it’s incredible work, sometimes to look at the outrage that your students create, then, when it all comes together and works out, you need to have incredible patience and the ability to wait, the ability to wait, sometimes not to rush, sometimes on the contrary to push, in general, great art is coaching. this is a podcast

free program, our guests are european and world champions maria petrova and alexei tikhanov. you were at the top of that generation when coaching tandems were fashionable and very productive. for example, we are talking about the moscow spouses, the velikovs, and specifically in pairs skating. never thought of trying, maybe together. to train couples, yes, we always think about it, yes, it’s just that alexey works, and while i’m training the children, yes, i ’m still working and studying, and of course, i’m waiting for alexey to invite me, maybe help him, i i invite you, maria, just like i’m inviting you with great pleasure, because masha’s advice in... in all some of the nuances of pair skating, very clear

comments are very important to me, yes, sometimes i can be very risky , i’ll come and say everything here, everything he he says, well , how did we spend an hour there, well , i’ll let prolina say we did this often, i say it ’s bad, everything is bad, he says how bad it was, how bad you did it, there’s no move there, i’m a little offended, then i start to think, i understand that i’m right. and something changes there and it’s getting better and it’s nice, but i think, well , you need to say it right away, so as not to drag out this pleasure, no, right away, to redo everything at once, to do it in a way that will be good for the athlete to watch for the judges and spectators, but it seems to me that it’s still hard for us to explain to the girls some things that we ourselves haven’t felt, that you want to replace yourself with someone else. no, i just took it off the tongue, from the partner’s point of view, exactly, yes,

the partner’s point of view, in the learning process, this is very important, i often consult with masha there on todos, on emissions, on supports and other elements that are important, and this helps a lot, and of course, it seems to me that well, here we are working, if only our partners and wives would come. they would, they would give you hell, yes, yes, yes, but you and i would be fired, you and i would be fired, they would stay to work, and yes? but in the coaching profession also, tell me, you get very worried when polina skates, well , it’s incredible, of course, well, because it’s also her own, i brought out other kids and brought out my own, and there, when they say that, for example, you you get the same thing, they say that it’s someone else’s, that it’s yours, no, it’s not, it ’s still a difference, yes, you

worry about the children, but when yours goes out for a ride, then these are completely different emotions, you feel it from the inside, now she’s already here, and you understand that she didn’t finish this, well , now she can do something bad, with others you still can’t feel them, because i’m polina’s mother, i know her, i know when she’s not there in the mood or whatever it is, and this probably also interferes, so excitement, but how joyful it is when your athletes, including our daughter, cope with the assigned coaching task, plus you put something else in there and... you just fly on the wings of such joy, the happiness of satisfaction from the work done , i wanted to say, i’m satisfied with what happened, it worked out, and it’s great, you joined the team incredibly quickly, you just started

coaching, already at the olympic games , i was worried about the couple you work with. that is, this experience, he was incredibly lucky, you just understand that the one who is lucky will be lucky, but this experience, it is impossible, how can i say, to underestimate it, that is, it’s really cool, now sasha and dima, yes, that is, they are also a strong couple, leaders in pair skating in russia, like you do you think what you and i need to do so that, for example, next year there will be a confrontation. with mishilyamov it was more comprehensible, maybe it would be victorious for us . do you think that this should be told right away like this, why not? okay, tell me your version, work in a different way, let's lie, let's lie something, i really liked how the guys skated their free

program at the spartakiad, and the all-russian spartakiad, the final of the russian cup, it...

people's endurance is just off the charts, it's great, but here's a little bit of general communication of this in the couple that they are, but at the same time i want to add a little chemistry, yes i’m right, the right word, the chemistry of this communication, which is perceived not only with the eyes, but is also perceived by the soul and heart, i mean the viewer. i mean the judges and i mean the coaching group, we probably need to work in this direction, because they are great guys, and sasha and dima, yes, we don’t force them, sasha went and made special panties, and we were like, where are you going? , she says, make a quadruple choice, train, i’m happy, i don’t talk about

it, but i’m very happy that uh, that i myself, that it’s not the coach who says, right? i’ll go , i’ll go and try to do a quadruple throw, well , yes, it seems to me that it’s much easier for a coach to stop him than to force him to do something, returning to the spartokiada, where the guys skated well, there was an annoying mistake at the end, which did not allow us to praise them so directly, but it seems to me that another barrier was broken, because as in pair skating, when two partners or in naldu dances stand together, some period of grinding occurs, for some it develops quickly, for others it develops slowly, and... the coach does the same thing, that is, athletes come, especially a couple, and if i didn’t have such a moment with vova, because that they grew up before my eyes, and i always

helped and advised them there from the very beginning, even earlier, when i was skating with another partner, and then it was as if a ready-made pair came to me and these were people completely unfamiliar to me, let's just say, and of course this moment seems to me to be a little bit of a grinding in, it also broke down somewhere in the second half of the season. that is, we began to hear each other more and understand, so i think that maybe next year , let everything be fine, let everything be fine, so that we don’t drive out anything else let’s pull petrov up, no, so that you don’t lose the thread that you really, as you say, hear each other, because if the athletes move away and don’t hear the coach, or, on the contrary, the coach moves away a little, there must be this tandem that does not violate some kind of boundary line, just hold it, everything will work out. wow, well done, i am amazed, all the same, i look and marvel

at this beauty of sports, the beauty of figure skating, i am so glad that i am involved in this, i am so glad that young girls and boys so beautiful, thanks to sports, well, in particular to figure skating, adults too, because uh... it fascinates me, i’m just glad, i take off my hat to all these people who work so hard to show this beauty, have the opportunity to show, give, yes, and, i can’t help but note, a large, very professional team, which gives us the opportunity to see this to millions of television viewers throughout our country, and i’m sure that all over the world this is all being reviewed, because well done to channel one, as it shows figure skating , these show figure skating, these people, these masters and professionals,

no one shows, you know, a gold medal, well, we can talk about figure skating with you for a long time, but unfortunately we also have to say goodbye, time is not rubber for us, thank you very much , that you came to visit us on the podcast, come again, see you. at the skating rink, thank you, thank you, maxim, see you later, this was a free program podcast, watch all episodes on the website 1tv.ru, hello, this is the easy money podcast, and i’m its host, mikhail khanov, today we’re on president of the association of russian banks gorigin tasunyan is visiting. hello gorigin ashotovich. thank you very much for agreeing to take part in the conversation. our conversation will be quite capacious and

rich; first of all, for our audience, i will say that gotovich is an academician of the russian academy of sciences, so his words have special weight. and first of all, since almost all of our audience, our readers and listeners, work with banks in one way or another.

what motivates them to do this, firstly, material interest, because customer losses one way or another, although not completely, are largely reflected in the banks themselves. here are all the types or main types of fraud thanks to the led with the help of which tens of billions of rubles, huge sums per year, flow away, this is largely technical or , let’s say, technological methods, or psychology or psychology.

blinkered and acting according to a certain false algorithm, you don’t hear these words, there is a whole series of measures to combat fraud, this is firstly detailed explanations, booklets are made by banks, now one regional bank has made a request, we have created a working group, because other banks supported this

, to... with psychologists, sociologists, prepare some forms that will help clients throughout throughout the interaction, explain what cannot be done, competently, structuredly, clearly explain, this is not allowed, but if they call and ask such questions, then you don’t even need to enter into a conversation, because then from your words they can, due to artificial intelligence to form some.

to go through a revolution, on the other hand, they use, including, probably, using scientific achievements, including methods of new forms of deception, they study types, these are primarily psychologists, probably, this is still a special criminal technology that includes many elements, firstly, you need to get the appropriate database, these are no longer psychologists, these are already technologists?

then with its help you can make so-called deep fakes and a deep level of elaboration copies and voices, copies of behavioral models, something else, how to deal with this, when quite recently there was a case in one

of the asian countries, a representative of an english, but well, not just some kind of financial company, but a large financial company for fakes, conversations, translated several conversations remotely via video link. about 70 million dollars in several payments, thinking that it was his bosses from london, yes, and copies were made, but deep fakes are a deep copy of a person’s voice, they directly showed him a video with his image on the screen boss, some phrases, orders were sent, and the person adjusted the money in several payments, how to deal with this? well, by the way, this has begun to be used very often lately, because over the past few months there have been various kinds of people there.

here is the main flow of these requests from scammers, hello, the news is on air in the studio sergei tugushov, at the beginning of the episode, briefly about the main thing. iran attacked israel with kamikaze missiles and drones at night, this was a reaction to a strike on the iranian consulate in the diplomatic quarter of damascus 2 weeks ago. israel intends to respond. nato.