for example, there is an excellent, very amazing brand, this is lady, who makes vintage jewelry, that is, she really takes rock crystal, cuts it out, makes a drawing inside, fills it with paint and can add a 16th-century detail that was taken from some kind of tiara there princesses, she also does it on rings, on mala, on such a small piece of rock crystal she carves portraits of pets, elderly women who come and do it all from diamonds, gold, with different sapphires, here she is makes these... as if they were vintage, but they just collect everything in italy, they really love collecting there, they love vintage very much, she brought them to russia now, well , that’s very cool, because it still turns out that in jewelry products, you can put a lot more ideas into a piece of jewelry, which will then warm you for a very long time and support some of your ideas and values, by the way, you were just talking about all these different things, and i remembered that disappeared from us how... somehow brooches are completely out of everyday life,

why don’t we wear them anymore? this is the first time i’ve heard that they don’t wear brooches anymore, we really have a lot of brooches, very different, made of beads, which repeat paintings from the renaissance, some handmade, because well, for example, any jacket can be decorated with brooches, how else can you stylize it? , that is, this is still relevant, but you don’t have a brooch, i have several, but you also stopped wearing them, yes, it turns out i need to remember. yes, i actually think now that we need to somehow look into box, just somehow carefully fall in love with accessories again, it’s still true that you can completely change the mood of your image only through accessories, well , by the way, while we were just talking about vintage, you asked, i have a question about pearls, are they fashionable now or are they too, now it just seems crazy to me that when and right now they are even in, if they are very large, very intrusive pearls? well, there are

delicate pearls, like river pearls, yes, well, yes, a small thin thread, yes, but there are, for example, like a sea one, well, that is , a large one, maybe it’s baroque, no, pearls, there are river pearls, baroque, and the one from mallorca, in my opinion, it’s fake, it seems like pearls, there are a lot of pearls, and rings, earrings, themselves pendants, and different sizes, up to such huge ones, and this is always always, but pearls, for example, have them too, let’s say, i used to think that a pearl is a story about... there about a grandmother, hello, here’s grandma sitting in front of you, no, you’re fashionable, as if, i remembered, suddenly i i’m sitting there abstractly, and then i remember that she also comes in handy for me now, for some reason you don’t look like even me , well, well, because this is fashion design, who is this, by the way, this is turkish, turkish designer evren kayarna, it's called, she's a graduate, if i'm not mistaken, of the french school of design, she has very beautiful shapes like this, she uses silver as these branches and pearls... and she

also has a lot of rings, it's just a modern design , you can replay it, that is, just you can eventually unravel this string of pearls and sew a couple of bracelets from it that will go on your finger. and you know what i did, i remembered, a few years ago i had many, many of these bouzas from my childhood left over from different completely different colored stones, and i just asked them to make me a long, long thread, in accordance with artistic understanding of the person who... reassembled it for me and i still wear it periodically, it’s long, you can wrap it there, in a choker here, then i wear it i do it like this, it’s very fashionable now, yes , it’s like you can tie a handbag on the side, like a belt, that is, it also seems to me that transformers can be such universal things, yes, there is such a topic in jewelry, but that’s exactly what it’s about decorate, a lot of brands now do this so that you can wear earrings, for example, if it’s some evening, put some pebbles on top of the earring that are riveted. either

take it off later if you are taking your child somewhere, or going to the store, that is, so that you can play, which is exactly what this is for people who don’t have time to go shopping, i have a question, for example, there is a conventional morning dress code, well, like there is a dress code, yes in the jewelry store, and there is an evening dress code, is there a difference, okay, we we now we’re not talking about something so massive, but in general, it seems to me yes, well, it seems to me that if there is, let’s say you’re going to some kind of evening event where dress code is stated. tai, then of course there must be expensive jewelry there, well, everything in general, where is black ty and it seems to me that they are local yes jewelry, probably, it’s just in the evening it seems to me that now costume jewelry, if earlier it was believed that costume jewelry was something for daytime, no, there is serious jewelry, but today costume jewelry is, in principle, such a serious application, by the way, i i can say, as for jewelry, once i was flying somewhere through singapore and... i stopped

near a jewelry store, all these stones sparkled so much that i decided to just spend the rest of all the money i had , like these... some there, well, some bracelets, some chokers, something like that, what’s the point? the fact is that probably 10 years have already passed, this is the same costume jewelry that i still have, it seems to me that everything is different, i could throw it away, i don’t know, give it as a gift, somehow, it could break, but here it is that expensive, i just said, expensive jewelry, because it was of high quality, i still have it right now, very often it sparkles and shines at my concerts, jewelry theme for girls, this is... such a topic that we can talk about endlessly, i still have many, many questions and there is something to discuss, but unfortunately, apparently, we will do this behind the scenes, because we are limited in time, participants of the following podcasts are already knocking on our door, thank you very much for that , that they came, it was just very interesting,

we discussed a very beautiful topic today, and there is something to think about, we will go through everything, we will go through everything, and by the way, we will leave it as an inheritance for the children, we will not give it away. because it's vintage, not all that glitters is gold, that's where we are today we’re convinced, check out the podcast lab on the first website, this podcast is a must-read, and today we... he wrote about 90 novels during his life, combining them into a cycle of human comedy. and we are discussing this wonderful author today with writer and blogger

malka lorrence. malka, hello. hello. malka, here is balzac - he is an expert, so to speak, of human souls. everything with him is dedicated to some class vicissitudes. i think he started writing something like this, he started publishing around 208 years ago, if i’m not mistaken, yes, somewhere like that, yes, he wrote like crazy about a novel a year, but there are more, there are five or six novels a year, well, a novel is

a novel, and let’s not forget the stories, yes, we still have free time, all this happened after he... how nothing worked out for him with some, i don’t remember, i don’t remember on what topic, next startup, not with the next one, with the very first one, for which he was paying all his life, yes, yes , his whole life went by the motto, interest is growing, there is no money, what to do, that’s how sometimes works of culture arise in connection with because the author has a duty, cultures always arise from approximately this from this. postulate that the author has a duty, it’s just that the duty is different, there is a duty to humanity, for example, usually misunderstood, if it is a duty in the literal sense - this is also a very popular story, a professional writer is a person who generally does not care what to live, yes, but also balzac, he was from a peasant background, his father

was a peasant, this d in the name of balzac, he attributed to himself as some kind of imitation of peasant origin. not forget what time he lived, the restoration had just happened, that is, the great french revolution, when a complete oops happened, that is, all previous privileges were abolished, and well, if not along with life, yes, that’s lucky, then we have the napoleonic era , and the empire, when everything was generally nasty, because new legislation, absolutely new all regulations and then the restoration of the bourbons, when the old aristocracy began to get back some of its privileges, privileges and fortunes, that is, this is a period of continuous such turbulence, in such times , fortunes are made very quickly, quickly, yes, if they are made, that is, that is, everything

is simply multiplied by 32, that is, if you are unlucky, then you are not lucky at all, yes, and if you were at the right time, in the right place, then you’re great, and... it is precisely in connection with this constant leap-like transformation of the social structure, the role of the title, the role of birth, the role of all this means aristocratic and he made money from writing, but that was it not enough. today we are discussing father of woes

, the novel gopsek's story. these are characters, memes. these are the meme characters that. which , unlike his other characters, are known to more or less everyone, at least those who went to school, maybe not quite a c grade. these two images, firstly, are quite bright, and secondly, they are more or less familiar to everyone, because thank god these are short stories. plus unforgettable. and the greedy monster that sucks the blood of working people, well, yes, exploits non

-working people too, he generally sucks blood from everyone indiscriminately, here is a completely monstrous creature, here is father gario, what does he do, he loves what a schoolboy remembers, he loves his daughters and gives them his last, dies in poverty, he is a good dad, he has parental feelings, he is selfless, that means he is 3.4, guess who, he is a victim of inhumane capitalist relations. so, in fact, you can probably judge this way, by yourself, they represent an ideal couple for an ideal couple, if the task is to illustrate that the horrors of capitalism, yes, that the capitalist way of life leads to dehumanization to the destruction of all living things, then they perfectly illustrate this matter, if we have some other thesis, well , excuse me, well, let’s try to find the thesis, that is , father gario... does his passion for his daughters cause him, and this is precisely passion, he loves these daughters madly, he goes out as an old-timer in their

carriage, lives in this poor, very poor boarding house, where he constantly cuts, cuts, cuts this boarding for himself, actually doesn’t eat anything anymore, this is his crazy passion for his daughters, and he faces death of eugene rastaignac to his neighbor and also lover one of his daughters, says that he made a mistake. and if he had not given his fortune to these daughters, but had kept it to himself, his daughters would have loved him and come to his deathbed . this is his feeling for his daughters, it’s generally normal, it looks touching, perhaps not, it looks different, depending on the angle. this story about father gario is mostly read inattentively. where does it start? it begins with a description of the boarding house where he lives and its inhabitants. that is, life is before us, this is not the lower classes, this is not clochards under the bridge, yes, these are not completely

degenerate people, but in general it’s like the penultimate step, that is, in this boarding house, who live in the widows of officials, that is, in fact, quite respectable ladies, some students again, yes , that is, this is not some kind of marginalization, yes, these are just people who don’t have money, but at the same time the whole structure that works in high society, it... here we see its own projection, just simply divided into very a lot, it’s interesting, yes, the considerations that motivate people there are all exactly the same, when some guest is friends with the owner of a pension, thanks to this friendship she lives for free for six months, and then moves out without paying, this is an absolutely divine story, yes, that is, a person, at the expense of personal relationships, at the expense of this sympathy, this friendship, and consciously having rubbed in, made friends, the person saved himself and it literally says how much, and

the hostess of the boarding house is madame woke, she knows how much this rubbish saved on me, here you are , paid love, no, there is a very clear invoice for food, measurements of fabric, there are prices of sheets take this sheet for the dying, it ’s darned, it’s all very material , does it wrap the dead? a new one will come in handy, i want to say about this episode with madame vauquer with her friendship, which turned out to be not friendship, in miniature it’s exactly the same thing that happens in... the world, only there are just different stakes, yes, of course, yeah , further, what we have in this boarding house, we have, in my opinion, even rastegnac is there in his completely helpless reasoning between us about the nature of all things, he too, well, he is still small, he is also trying somehow divide all this into categories, and there

we have it, it means that the family is like peace, humility, struggle and rebellion, and... who is actually a thief in law, he is the holder of a common property for a minute, and at the same time he lives in this boarding house for he lives in this, he lives in a boarding house for the poor, because the thief in law, as we know, luxury is not shown, he’s chust for this vanity, you know, that is , he does things, he’s kind of like that here is a daring robber, his status does not allow him to fall into effeminacy, all these branches exist there in parallel in one...

that the stakes there are so high, it ’s so important to get to this point, that really, not now, not up to his father, now, let him die, and so everything has already been taken from him, everything that is possible, we seem to think that this should rastaignac will probably be horrified, but the ending is that rastaignac looks at this paris, having buried this father goriot instead of his daughters at his own expense, pawning the watch, he says there is paris, i am going to conquer you, that is, in the end he still chooses this one spiteful.

this podcast is a must read, we today we are discussing balzac and his work with malka lorrens, writer and blogger. the story of otsario. it doesn’t start in this boarding house, where he watches his beloved daughters with binoculars, sitting in the attic himself, no, his story is generally set out there in quite detail, remember how he got rich, finally, he was rich, finally, when why, what how it was a period of revolution, he was a grain speculator, a hungry year, yeah, that’s how he made his fortune, that is, he’s resourceful, he’s also a peasant, actually. yes, his father is a peasant, in my opinion, well, he is of simple origin, this is emphasized many times, not descendants, just origin, which he understands at the same time, that is, the french revolution with all the difficulties, it was his time, how he got into suppliers, he became friends with some kind of commissary council or whatever

they called it, that is, everything is the same as what happened in russia in petrograd in 1919, yeah, that is... in a strong position, it was a businessman with capital, with a name, yes no, he even says that my daughters had a their own departure, that is, each of them had a carriage, a coachman, yes, someone cleaned these horses, there were some lackeys, he was rich at some period he was rich, that is, like a modern successful manufacturer, who each he buys a car for his daughter, what’s

the problem, yeah, it’s just a standard of living, no, no some kind of hysterical love. his daughters should not care about this, he could afford this standard of living, moreover, he was obliged to afford it, because it corresponded to his status, and his daughters naturally did the same used, because this again was part of his duties, if he wanted to give them out normally, he could raise them in the village, please, but then he would raise them until old age, but still there is something unhealthy in his attitude towards his daughters, we feel this when we read, of course, of course, throughout the entire story. his innocence is very emphasized, which is presented on the one hand as a virtue, that is, that he is so pure in heart, but... in the background, and in general it is quite clear it is verbalized that he is an illiterate person, he has no imagination, uh-huh, generally speaking, he’s a bit dull between us, uh-huh, and the fact that

, let’s say, from the values ​​in his system of priorities, yes, from the values ​​that remain, love remains to daughters, well, every person has some kind of super, some kind of super value, he has something like this. for everything else he simply does not have enough imagination, that is, this happens not because he is so devoted to them, but because he simply cannot come up with anything else, well, this is interesting, by the way, but it is also interesting turn, when he is about to die, we look at him and he seems so naive to us, he loves his daughters so much, and as if not to notice that it was his daughters who put him in this position, he blames their husbands for everything, but when he starts to die already in the fire, he shouts to the plant, he curses them, he says they don’t love me,

but the story itself is about quotes, but about what the law says about division, yes, some kind of complicated transactions, with some kind of

return receipts , this is all quite interesting, commerce, banking, there everything, it’s all there, just like we already read emily zalyato, no, not for the sake of who is who’s lover, yes, but for the sake of who earned how much from what and how and how he did it, finally we are it but we can just like this - some kind of wisdom from a book like this and apply it in life, it seems to me, no, look, it’s possible, yes, it’s possible, depending on what we want to glean, because we have it there, that’s how i understand it , we smoothly move on to relationships with money, we smoothly move on to your book hypnosis and anesthesia, because this is my main question about this book, and i myself read it with pleasure, it is in my library and i...

it is quite accurate, just like balzac’s, that is, balzac’s types, when i read, i i recognize them, i know them, that is, i know them in life, in your book i also know them, this is a rare thing, well, that is, this is not a fictional

world, so. and this is the view of a very observant and very smart person, so the question is, is it possible, after reading your book, to adopt some of your experience, do you think it makes sense, i think that after reading any book you can learn from some experience, this is why we read, if we talk about the book hypnosis and anesthesia, it was not written to teach anyone something, like any book, what does it not do...

this is it the only book i have published, i have eight of them in total, it’s scary to say, the only one that does not contain friday answers, but you are known to most of our viewers for your friday answers, that is , readers write to you on your blog and you answer frankly, elegantly, witty to their not so elegant witty question, the questions are not can be witty. because they were written in trouble, there is lack of wit, so we don’t expect any grace from the text of the question, but that’s not what the person wrote it for, so hypnosis and anesthesia are not friday answers, this is what i wrote on good will, and there is very little about money, well, it is natural, because there are all sorts of, well , let’s say, in relationships between men and women, for example, the material side

matters, there are just a few. we discuss his work father grio and gabsek with malka lorrens, writer and blogger. let's return to the question of how to make a man out of a man . if hypnosis and anesthesia are about love, then where to find this object of love and how to build some kind of worthy object out of it, because the feeling after hypnosis and anesthesia is that there are no worthy men, there are no princes, well, no, and those that is, they are all sculpted by some kind of female hands and

female suffering, victims. let's go back to balzac, female victims and suffering, what the victim looks like, the lover is walking around sad, and what's wrong with you, darling, darling answers, i'll go out the window now, i have to a lot, i lost, i lost and i have to, and if i don’t do it today, then it’s all over for me, oh leave me, she’s like that, let’s go to the police officer, yes, well, why were you silent, that is, the female victim is simply in in the form of a template, yes, she has this configuration, and it’s generally plausible, when i read these situations in balzac, i don’t understand, here’s anastasia, yes, she’s a beauty, everyone goes crazy about her, she’s rich, she has wonderful husband, she has children, everything is fine, why does she suddenly become, i ask you not to forget that

she is also a good mother. their own life, their own bedroom, while in general children are born because the title is inherited, that is, this does not mean that these are fictitious marriages, they are arranged according to the principle that for us now, well, it’s difficult for us to perceive it, well , yes, there lovers come to dinner, that is , they enter the house, lovers on the one hand , they come to dinner and enter the house, they know about this connection to absolutely everyone, yes , it is known to all of paris, naturally the husband

is not blind either. but at some point the husband begins to have a suspicion that his they ruin him, that his money goes into his pocket , that there is a suspicion that his wife is not faithful to him, that’s it... this is where it begins, well, that’s how loyalty turns out, it’s also in money, because this is a violation of fidelity, it is expressed in the fact that the woman begins to squander her husband's fortune, she begins to squander what motivates a woman who, in order to pay off her debts, which means this guy, pledges not her tsatsk, but family, family, not hers, the maker has no family jewelry, but these were diamonds.

from the people, if she were a seamstress, daughter a poor widow, whose only entertainment is going to church on sunday, she would understand her duty, of course, differently, because she basically has a different way of life, she has a different routine, if someone is seriously ill with us, we give up everything and we’re sitting by the bed, yeah, but for the dolphins, this is an excess, it’s all about giving up sitting for as long as i can sit, are you stunned, with me? things happen when and when necessary, she says that when it’s like this, in the end you think a little that this grio paid for what he sold to the poor bread is expensive in a hungry city, that no, well , it’s impossible, no, well, it’s just impossible for this,

after all, we don’t have these fairy tales, these children’s leo tolstoy, such a fate, and hapsek it translates as zhivaglot, gopsek, yes gapsek , the speaking surname means something like barmale yes.

he was in the colonies, he visited everywhere, he fought, generally speaking, uh-huh, he fought, but no, well, he says, i wield a sword, he doesn’t just, not just a sword, he wields some kind of sword. .. survived on these endless islands, these are colonies, this is the history of colonization, this is the beginning of the 19th century, it was there that terrible things happened, and they also made a fortune there, he fought, he colonized, in the sense that he participated in these seizures, well, it’s not like there was a seizure there, lord, he survived there, by the way, he also succeeded there before coming to paris and opening a ship. he did not do things clearly and clearly, and this is not a votren

who tried to kill someone on a dark night there, this is a completely different scale, that is, this is a man who came to paris already with such a versatile baggage with such - with with such a degree of adaptability, that’s what we all need to take as an example from him, well, okay, but he fills up his rooms, he eventually bought out the entire pension, there are empty rooms there. gapseka in this final image of a crazy old man obsessed with saving, no, no, you know, that he fell into dementia. it’s actually like none of us are immune from this, his biography

is not at all about this, when he is with this lawyer, with this hero, on whose behalf the story is being told, he has been doing business with him for many years, all these matters there are stated: this is a brilliant mind, a person capable of taking risks, this is a person who knows very well, psychology, and this is a person who is completely... at chess, not at roulette, by the way, yes,

an intellectual game, well, of course, in general, i understand, and if you generally combine, let ’s say, balzac’s work, try to find a common thread, if you have a suspicion that people in balzac’s works are very often ruled by the fear of poverty, that is, this is impending poverty. she is such a bogeyman for everyone, some kind of terrible natural disaster that threatens everyone, and under the influence of this fear, these people do such interesting things that can later be described in a novel, they do things of varying degrees of absurdity, generally speaking, which bring them straight into this very poverty that they are so afraid of, but you don’t it seems that this fear of poverty is irrational, he is irrational like... he

’s very unhappy with this, but he doesn’t, he doesn’t have that thought in his head that everything is screwed for us now, everything is lost, yes, he goes looking for prey , until or until the end comes, yes, but a person in the same situation, the first thing he does is start talking about how bad everything will be now, why, this complicates the task a little, little, thanks for the interesting conversation, i didn’t have time to do anything, we didn’t have time to do anything, we didn’t have time discuss everything we wanted, because we... talk about money and psychology, but i just wanted to thank you for

coming and talking to me about balzac, i will emphasize once again that it seems to me that your book is hypnosis and anesthesia is written completely in the balzac style, although it is a collection essays, but very short, more easy to read, and i advise everyone to read your book or at least read your blog and the answer to friday’s questions, thank you very much, it was very interesting. this was a must -read podcast, yaglan batnikova, my guest was the great, beautiful little girl lawrence, and we discussed balzac, father grio and gapsek. this is a podcast 20 years later and i and its host konstantin mikhailov and today my guests

are my old friends, dj fonar, aka vladimir fonarev and evgeny rudin. aka legendary dj gruf, hello, hello, we have a dj broadcast today, i’m also a welder, but not a real one, i’m a tractor driver, you’re a dj yourself, you know, this is great, yes, so as not to slip into, so to speak, a professional conversation and so as not to use exclusively our medical terms, so that others will also be interested, let’s immediately agree that we speak in simple language, use a minimum of some dj terms, well, there are hooves, faders, kyo. okay, we agreed, yes, volodya, turn it off, that’s it, maybe yes, yes, everything is fine, we were already hanging out here, it’s fine, we danced, had a mini-rave on the podcast 20 years later, guys, they were relevant in the 2000s, someone else was relevant in the nineties, listen, i remember

that on at some disco, i, being the head of the mercury show group, we danced. among the robots, we took first places throughout the soviet union in one of the clubs, i remember that i first saw this, what was called djing, who djed, vladimir fonarev, back then from kora, by the way, this was in the class studio , studio class, where we started performing together with lika, it was the end of the eighties mc lika mc, yes, that is lika blabla, you... all this is here, so the guys are from the nineties, in the zeros, in the tenths in the twenties they the most relevant of all the relevant ones, what often happens, and when did you start? there were several periods, that is, there was a period in st. petersburg, when i just started playing, it was the nineties, well, a little later, volodya, this is our old man, the very same volodya, he played and

not only on records, he also played on reels, on reels before that, that is, he practiced all this, that’s it... my official appearance, since they recognized me how rude the whole country is, it was the ninety-sixth year, when it premiered - on one of the radio stations, there is happiness, now that, yes, now we remembered when you started, we remembered when we learned the dj’s game, we remembered when we recognized the lantern, i also remember, sorry, i can’t right now, i was overwhelmed by a wave of nostalgia, i remember that i listened avidly again on the same radio station maximum fannyhouse program by volodya fonarev. i remember, i was especially hooked by the program where you were a guest, yes, it was my first broadcast in moscow in general, the first broadcast in moscow in general, and volodya invited me there, in general, at one time i wanted volodya to adopt me somehow , the first years of living in moscow, zhenya lived at my house, we

have been friends for 30 years, in general , in moscow i am grateful for the appearance of volodya, of course, because he is probably practically the only person who taxis me, i came from st. petersburg . and fellow countryman, well i was born in a different place, but lived in st. petersburg, studied there, yes, wow, i didn’t think that yours was so close, i remember that for the first time i heard from you such words as drum and base, even then break beat, hardcore, he was the one who said that you don’t need to throw out ten terms, okay, this is a musical style, but okay, the name of the group, i heard chemical brothers from you for the first time, i heard sales from you for the first time, no one knew yet, the groove already knew, and he was always on... the wave, that is, there, let's say, i dj there, well, what dj, roughly speaking, everyone, well, except for rock, let’s say, you too there, plus or minus, this one was always somehow ahead a little, and what he did continues to do, it may even be a little incomprehensible to those who lives now, but it will be clear later, each direction, as in

principle in any style of music, has its own audience, and even if there is some kind of underground direction, there will always be its own audience, even if it will be there 5,000 constantly went there for records, they bought them all the time, then people went listen to electronic dance

music directly in clubs on the disk of the jacques, because these were really the only people who could show them and there were actually few djs, a little yes, but in fact the discos themselves appeared back in the days of even the eighties, it was the late seventies, when producers such as george marauder brought together electronic dance music. how they will study everything together, yes, and electronic musical instruments helped synthesize, the word synthesis came from where, the search for a new sound, that is, what we

were already accustomed to, it was novelty, and it was a time when science fiction, astronautics, robots, computers, space, yes, what shaped our, our musical tastes, remember, the pim album floyd, yes, why do we say, for example, that our musical tastes are close, fink floy, jean-michel roasting, hold on morozov. is that all our lives we have been looking up at the vastness of the internet, the amazingness and wanted to know about

the infinity of the universe, yes, what is it, now we are looking for the infinity of the universe where in our computers, that is, the internet has become for us, the very cosmos, well, listen, well, there is no longer the romanticization of this electronics, the sound of this electronic or is it still there, which of course is now, and in general probably just, if we consider electronic music as... the creative process is always a changing space, a new combination of sounds appears, new transitions from one musical style, that is, the junctions of something, that is, it is constantly mutating, developing and moving the process, in this, probably attracts all people, to find something new, all episodes of the podcast 20 years later you can find on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. evgeny rudin, aka dj. gruf and vladimir fonarev, aka lantern in the podcast 20 years later, i am its host konstantin mikhailov, and we continue, let's roll back on the time scale to

maybe the nineties, eighties, you remember the first rave, where it took place, this one here raif culture, when did it begin and where, well, it certainly began - in st. petersburg, exactly, absolutely exactly, the club dance floor fontanka 145 and the first party in the planetarium with vestbam, that’s for sure, yes, that’s when i just... got into this group of people, yes, well, i was already a dj, already sort of, yes, i was already sick, yes and i’m totally sick here, i need to explain how a classic disco was different from a rave, and first of all , st. petersburg had very cool locations , it could have been parties in various estates , and there were ice skating rinks in the stock exchange, that is, completely different places, which seemed to be accompanied by the same music she was dancing. the eighties and dance floors were in the seventies, but these are lasers, this is a video installation, this is exactly what was created.