i married, so to speak, successfully to a very wealthy man and i think, what a blessing, i will give birth to children, because i’m already old, i’m 38 years old, i need to be on time, everything is fine with me, a big house, in general, it’s a waste and i’ve already had such a good time over 40, and suddenly they invite me to try out for this program, let's get married, i looked, i think, my god, what the hell, where am i and where is television, no, so i just somehow with persuasion went to these auditions, it was 15 years ago, 16, 16 , i was already approved, but i was completely unable to work with my ear and the prompter, that is, i directly and hello, well, it was such a test for me, and i was allowed to work without an ear and without a prompter, and somehow everything went well and after a year there were already those all these years you work without an ear and without a prompter, but after that? for a year there was a tef

for the program for the presenter, in general, such a renaissance happened closer to 50, you like it, honestly, i want to tell you, if there was probably another team, i would not have lasted like this, here everything has worked out, we are absolutely fantastic relationships have developed - with my editors, with the producer, in general with team, and somehow a friend, the longing for friendship has disappeared somewhere, there is no time for this, i go to work with some... great joy, because i suddenly found my people, and i am with them well, it turned out that this is such a big part of my life, so important, that i suddenly had enough, everything somehow became very circular, and maybe if i had come when i was 30, i would not have been able to bear such a load, there wouldn’t be much motivation, i became interested in this whole topic, i dug through a huge amount.

lives correctly, who makes mistakes, it’s interesting with these people, the ones that have been worked out, i don’t even know, they’re like dead, i don’t know what to talk to them about, because they have a ready answer to everything, they immediately put out their hand, they say, no, you don’t need this here, there’s no need to go there, you’ve never had your own coach, no, that’s interesting, over the 16 years that you ’ve been working in this program, you’ve probably seen a huge number of people who passed between, so probably... not a single one is really there the director, the writer has never seen such a gallery of human faces in front of him, somehow they all seem to be erased there already somehow mixed up, or do you remember all of them, or do you remember some in particular, some in particular, mostly of course - the memory crosses out the white ones, they are flipping through the pages, yes, i remember my mother came and my mother asked, what did you have today interesting, but i didn’t remember, not that i don’t remember the name of the person, although when i...

talk, i’m just immersed, i let it go through me, but memory protects you so much, but there are, for example, maybe two dozens of people whom i will never forget, who teach you, who give you some kind of oxygen and answers to your questions, they somehow pull you out of this torment, when you’re just like in a dream, you can’t get out of it in any way, and nothing helps you, suddenly a woman comes and explains a couple of phrases to you in her own language example, can you remember anything specific? for example, there was a woman who came with her daughter, who, and i understood that she was hurting her, that is, she had already crippled her, just an unhappy girl, quite a pretty, very active mother who did not let her say the word that simply, well, didn’t turn her into some kind of pet, and i thought that i would have a stroke during the program, doesn’t throw around the same words, but i had a hypertensive cry, i sat there , crimson-colored. my blood pressure rose,

i just felt bad, i wanted to take this girl and put her in my home, it was some kind of hell, and it was impossible not to shout down her, not to convince her of anything, and i was absolutely broken, an absolutely broken heroine. who came as a bride, so i told myself that i would never i will never be so active, although my child at that time was, well, maybe 12-13 years old, and i just stepped back from her, well , you see, it’s not like it’s not literal, but uh, so you saw that you talked and you repeat it word for word in your family or with friends or with your husband or with someone, and you somehow rethink it on the way, when you go home, but you apologize, and you... you start the next day as a completely different person, thanks to these people who, what happened to this girl? she, by the way, i was on our program again and also came with my crazy mother, but this is some kind of hell, these things are just on the internet, even

some pieces are floating around somewhere, i think, well, it was horror, and i i think how many crazy mothers there are in the world, in the country, who haven’t arranged theirs, i just said so, get off your daughter and... build your own life, what are you doing? well, i spoke harshly, that is, you are such an impulsive, emotional person, well, not in every case, but when it’s already too much, when you see yes, like a kitten - they torture you in front of you, tying a weight to its tail, you know, and this child, this poor kitten, well, dies, you ’re doing something, but this was such a situation, that is, there were such situations, in general speaking, this is a really interesting topic that concerns russia and the whole world, this is how to raise children, and the relationship between children and parents, you probably have your own view on these things, this is what we do , not like that, you know, it seems to me that ours is like this russian passion, desire, like max frischai, remember santa cruz, you wanted to enter

not just my heart, you wanted to enter mine , my dreams, well, something approximately, we want to enter every cell of the body, our lover, husband friends, i don’t know, children, there are a lot of us in each other’s lives, this is in relation to children, i think this is a huge mistake, we don’t just immerse ourselves in them, we don’t just stick to them, we don’t give them air , we give them, we don’t give them the opportunity to breathe, because we are taught our some terrible experience, especially my generation, yes, which has gone through so much, we always want to lay it everywhere, so we can just run away. ahead, yes, we ourselves know better what kind of education they should get, whether they should wear a hat or not, that is, we know everything better, so it seems to me that this is the first, biggest mistake, we begin to strangle them from the cradle, with this very one of ours love and some kind of involvement, this kind of participation,

when you just want to, well, here we are in relation to all our loved ones, here i am probably like this, that is, such despotism, yes, because i am very passionate. i’ve never talked to a psychologist in my life, i haven’t read a single book on psychology, that’s how she is, where she got this wisdom from, to give my brother and i so much freedom, keeping our finger on the pulse, that is, helping, if asked, yes, they participate, if you apply, and she has never been a giri, neither me nor my brother, i

realized that i have so much of my presence in the lives of my friends, children, that i need to take a few steps back, on time, with my son, probably i was already so not very stupid, and i gave birth to my daughter at 40, that is, my children were lucky that i weakened a little in the reins, so it seems to me that this is the first mistake in relation to children, the second, well, the second is also from the same series , you can’t give something that they don’t

ask you for, then blame them for it, i put my life on you, i did everything so that you could learn, so that i could buy you an apartment for the fool, look, that’s where i am now. .. extra money, help, give, just don’t ask, don’t interfere, don’t control, there shouldn’t be any control over this, really, and of course, education, education and health, i told everyone to my children, i will turn a blind eye, as my mother said, to your bad behavior, the main thing is to study well, read, study well, i ’ll close my eyes to this, and i also tell the children, study, read, take care of your health, well , it seems to me that the most important thing, and what i want to ask you about the podcast, since you and i... we both turn out to be the hosts of the podcast, this one the idea of ​​a writing podcast, how it came about, this is yours idea, katya muravitskaya, my producer,

creative, let's get married, which is just for me, my younger sister, she's just a part of me, we even look very similar, she's just mine, here's my love, she tells me, there's such a thing history, podcast letters, let's try, but i'm having a hard time getting into new projects, i have a lot of complexes that i can't handle it, i won't succeed, and i'm just going crazy, i say, no, no, no, no, no, i don’t like everything new, try to start, i ’m afraid i won’t succeed, let someone else do it, that’s it, she says, so what, well it won’t work and it won’t work, well, they ’re trial runs, but what can you refuse, so we recorded a certain number of programs, yes, in these podcasts of yours, who was most interesting to you, who you talked about, so i watched about yuliy dronina , you recently had a podcast, here is my generation of such cynical know-it-alls, here are the eighties, eduard osadov, veronika tushnova, yulia drunina. well

, i didn’t have such a bad time, because i wanted something else, i now regret that i had such a position a little, and who are you talking about, that’s who you remember from your heroes, heroin? i was very interested in sveta kryuchkova, she is very close to me, we talked about tsvetaeva, well, sveta just knows everything about tsvetaeva, in my opinion. she played akhmatova herself, yeah, mutsvyatayeva - this is her love, so i was interested, i’m interested in this classic question, who is closer to you, tsvitaeva or akhmatova? you know, i would prefer not to know their biography, strange as it may seem, because in me, reading and knowing about them, a womanish, unnecessary thing comes out in me, and but it’s better for me not to know, i’m starting to judge it not of mine, and this bothers me a little, this is what i know about both akhmatova and tsvitaeva.

take tsvetaeva or akhmatova to a supposed uninhabited island there, which book would you take? akhmatova, i read her a lot at the institute, well then she’s from st. petersburg, yes, yes, she somehow has less of this nerve of such hysteria, yes, like tsvitaeva, smaller, she, it’s impossible to say, but more intelligent, no , it’s impossible yes, to say, well, i don’t know, you can say anything you want, but akhmatova, of course, is such an absolute queen of russia poetry, such, yes, a royal poet. absolutely, and what kind of mother they were , it’s true, it’s really none of my business , that’s why when today they pull out and

excite minds with the fact that you can, i don’t know, forget any name, find out all of them under the nudity of underwear, i don’t want to how how the art was for us here in my time, no one knew about personal life, today you know everything, it bothers me, it really bothers me, i want to shed tears over the fiction and then i want some kind of absolute sterility, absolutely some kind of angel, thank you very much for this conversation, it was really very interesting, it seems to me unusual, at least for me, but i think for our viewers, who are probably used to seeing you in a slightly different form, that’s why thank you for your frank for this conversation in connection with your birthday, let me tell you, thank you very much, yes, sorry that i was not cheerful, perky, but dreaming. seen many times, let him see you, so thoughtful, a little immersed in himself, it’s really very

interesting, thank you, dear friends, on the air of the creative industry podcast with you, as always, elena kiper, producer and music video director. karmanov, general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives, our guest today is a director, and a person from whom such energy immediately came. artistic director of the theater on the malaya bronnaya, hello, hello, i think whoever turned on the broadcast just now, they are experiencing a storm of emotions, i think, and mantises or mantises, or god, mantises, well, in general, different emotions, how do you manage to evoke such emotions in people, such a huge vibe around your

person, i just work a lot, a lot, i work a lot, everything, well, i’m not i’m not... concerned about evoking any special emotions, i just do i do my job as i see fit, and maybe it’s good that the work i do evokes different emotions, very different and joyful, and sometimes some negative and controversial ones, in any case, that’s what i always say that the best effect of a performance is when a person continues to think about him, think and think. after watching it, the performance is cool, cool, not when , directly at the moment of its implementation, it causes happiness in the auditorium, although this is also wonderful, but the coolest reaction is when a person cannot forget about the performance, when he is all time turns it over in his head when he returns to him, well, i met somewhere that you don’t

be offended, even if in general the person left, no, i’m not offended, but that’s normal,

sorry, when you begin to understand what someone breathes - a person behind the walls of the theater, what he is looking for, what he wants to talk about and how he wants to talk about it, and you professionally, as if like a child who is slowly with his parents, with the world around him, groping for this way of conversation, mastering language, tries to make it so that...

you understand that people, what people think about, even when they don’t say something yet, you understand and feel, and how you feel them, what are the signs, what is this... it’s intuitive, it’s an intuitive feeling, you start pronouncing the text and you feel what kind of response waves are coming, and then you understand, for example, that people are sad today, but the performance is cheerful, you need to find this wave, as it were, of a certain... uniform tonality and gradually shake them up, you know, there is such a physical paradox that a person one can theoretically destroy a bridge, but you just need to find any bridge that is oscillating, which means entering into oscillations with it, a person can gradually swing the bridge, this is impossible, because a person cannot catch such small vibrations, but theoretically it is possible, here that

it’s the same here, you can enter one vibrational tonality. society, how it lives, how the audience generally lives, to predict, you put on a play, you start rehearsing it, you have to six months before the premiere, sometimes you conceive it a year before the premiere, and you...