which takes place at night, and it was most likely created in order to show muscovites that you can run at night, in the evening, and moscow is so beautiful during this period of time that it has its own admirers who go out on the street cities and by their personal example show other muscovites that running is cool, the entire distance is 10 km, the winners received not only medals, but also cash prizes. glory. that's all for now, see you later, the following question: did you want to live with your mother or did you not want to live with grandma? i wanted to live with my mother, yeah, go on, i loved my grandmother madly, and i probably still love her, although she is no longer with us, with my grandmother things were more complicated over time. relationship, because

the age difference, when i already started my first year, i myself made the decision that i needed to return to my mother, i don’t know how it would be, i understood that it would be difficult, and i returned to her, we spent a long time building difficult, very difficult relationship, because we didn’t even know who we were as friends, well, in general, how to communicate, and how did you get back to her, you just the doorbell rang, and i lived in another city. to live with you alone, yeah, it’s my decision, now we’ll live with you, yeah, but i came through, yes, i said that now we’ll be together for a while anyway, our relationship has gotten better, she also tried very hard, now i think that we are great, well done, there were several hospitalizations during this time, who was hospitalized, me for what reason, and because of anorexia, but the clinics, let’s just say, they,

one was not specialized at all, it’s better not to go there, and the other two clinics were specialized, but to say that they revealed something to me, somehow worked with me, i can’t say that, well, they put you in a neurological clinic, yes, yeah, well, it was difficult, that is, it’s not psychological treatment, that’s basically...

i understood that we’ll get back to it now, yeah, then it was, rather, it was difficult at the first peak, when i was 12 years old, i’m not quite in terms of relationships with my mother. not in terms of relationships with the disease, that is, it was difficult with my mother, you know what a thing, your disease, like any, probably other disease, is rather, it is probably an indicator of an imbalance, it is not the cause of the imbalance, because here you are sitting now, if you were called a sick person, but your tongue is not turning yet, despite the fact that you yourself call this a period of crisis, perhaps from the point of view of some kind of gastroenterologist something yes or maybe even a neurologist, you are not in remission now, you are watching the podcast triggers with

you, its host is tatyana krasnovskaya, sergey nasebyan, and we are talking with nicole about anorexia, you can stand up, yes, of course, uh-huh, thank you, just so our viewers understand, yeah. okay, in this context, let’s just go back to the first episode, when at the age of 12 you said, you were diagnosed with anorexia neurotic, yes, or anorexia nervosa, yes, yes, tell us what it was like, that’s what you were in at that moment, when this began to happen, i began adolescence, and i was a little scared, or perhaps even a lot, but the thing... is

that my parents didn’t really explain to me what it was, what happened to girls in general, the meanings did not introduce you to the concept of the menstrual cycle, including, yes, yeah, when i... saw how my body was starting to change, yeah, i was scared, shocked, maybe, and i counteracted this as best i could, that is, me i didn’t like the way i was starting to look, although well, i was never fat, that is, everything was fine, and you could even say that i was so thin, and then it began, that is, as i understand it, my hips and breasts began to form. ..

that is, yes, for some reason i decided to regulate this with food, yes, that is, in regulation, control over food, and on the part of my grandmother a very serious deception began, well, for example, i prepared soup without fish, without meat, then it turns out that it is fish broth, or meat, or whatever, it is one percent kefir, then i’m somewhere... then i find a jar of three. she tried to feed you all the time, well, like a normal grandmother, yes, she was worried, created scandals, scenes, you managed to break the cycle with such experiments on yourself, or the cycle still remained full, and over time, that is, you were still able beat her up, yeah, when i got into

hospital, i was already without a cycle, yeah, it was 45, in general, you won, but at the same time you weighed , i don’t know, a kilogram, at that time 40, probably, yes, very purposeful. cool, yes, you can write an article right about you, but so, after the hospital i came out with a huge increase, but it was generally a liquid, at 13 then, yes, yes, that is, it was a liquid that was pumped up, well then there are intravenous drips several times every day, glucose, something like that, some saline solutions, because there was severe dehydration, right, or exhaustion, as they thought, yeah, well, in general , that was my goal.

to do, how to get out of all this, to get out, which, to be honest, i had no time for them, and maybe this was a plus that i didn’t react to it in any way, well, that is, you defended yourself with such withdrawal into yourself, yes, detachment from them, yes, that’s right, so, this was the first situation, as far as the mother took part in the first,

essentially, episode, which was, at some point, the grandmother called the mother and said, you know, she no longer eats at all, already... completely, and mom rushed as soon as she could, she tried to feed me something, she and i went shopping, chose something, that’s it, but it all ended in hysterics, that is, i refused everything, then my mother decided to fraudulently take me to the clinic, yeah, that was already in moscow, this is the first time you went to the client, yes, yeah, when they took my blood... i lost consciousness, then i came to my senses in a clinic in a closed institution, well, yes, and there for some time i stayed, yeah, my mother wasn’t allowed into the clinic, that is, she couldn’t visit there, well , naturally, yes, yeah, well, when i left, i

she said that i hate you, i would hate you too, they don’t let a person die, yes, it’s interesting, but tell me, today at this point... you are quite old, you said that you can cope with all this, but what you tried from the point of view of, let’s call it recovery, you still went to psychologists, you used some methods. yes, you know, i went to different psychologists, including quite serious psychotherapists, i was offered to work with childhood, with the unconscious, but in this specific case, you know, i don’t remember a lot, that is, i have some things, well, my consciousness, it either replaced it or simply erased it, when they ask me... to talk about something, i either don’t really remember, or it seems to me that something happened , but i don’t even believe it,

it seems to me that this didn’t happen, that is , i can’t remember anything like that from childhood, there before the age of three, that is, in general, well, few people remember themselves before three, let’s do it , yes, because that they say that this is some kind of childhood psychotrauma, perhaps something necessarily connected with the mother, or this is an attempt... to be more independent, not depend on no one or anything, in this way, this is what my psychologists are up to, but tell me how you yourself perceive your coming to your mother, for 18 years, when you decided that you now live with her, he appeared an act of aggression on your part, there is no aggression, but how do you think you violate the boundaries of another person without aggression? without asking you, i still have to use aggression,

there is no other option, perhaps, perhaps, something aggressive should be looked at in this direction, that your auto-aggression, and if we we are talking about the diagnosis, and even the smoking that you are talking about, yes, if we are talking about auto-aggressive behavior. would have no reason not to be offended, yes, or rather, to be offended by mom, we all have reasons

to be offended by mom, but i would look now not at the cause, but at your consequence, that this whole story of yours is about that , how much do you want to destroy yourself, not die, but destroy in the sense of reducing, or even cutting off pieces of yourself, you can approach this in different ways, in any case, in my opinion look there, the psychoanalytic position will be the most adequate in my opinion. so look at it from this point of view, that if you express aggression towards your mother within yourself, because even your desire to stop your maturation during puberty is essentially to stop the development of, well, a key female organ such as the uterus, and to the development , make her incapacitated, and the uterus is nothing more than a part... of the mother inside you, it’s unlikely that this will help right now, which is deep, deep,

well, there’s no point, it seems to me, here on surface to speak, in this sense, how to say, we now have no hope that we will talk now everything will change, yes, but all that i can give you now, for example, or tatyana and i can give, is in general- then some food that you have not tried yet, food, a good disclaimer, so this is food for your mind, because otherwise your mind begins to feed on you, and if you start to look at it, because the reason to be offended by your mother may be as much as you like, in the end, let's be honest, now we we are just moving on to the provocative method, your mother did not give you to your grandmother for a while, she simply gave you to your grandmother, no time was determined there, and it was not kept, she simply gave you away and with all due respect, there is a fan of your mother for the fact that she gave birth to you, if we look at it from this point of view, then we can see that it was really, well, difficult for her. the word is difficult - this is called for a child who has no time for you, she had no time for you, she had

to cope with what she was experiencing, yes, the death of her husband, and so on, and she had to really somehow get out of this, and you have brothers or sisters, no relatives, uh-huh, yes, as if sergei is saying that mom could have different motives, but you read them as mom, not up to me , the child could not perceive it differently, of course. i wanted to be with my mother, of course, naturally, no matter how much you loved your grandmother, the desire to be with your mother was endless, and of course, every friday they expected that same mother to come who would want to be with me, but she comes... that is, i chose not to eat as a way attract attention? no, go deeper,

you choose not to eat as a way to not be a mother, not to please her, to cause her. she has a constant anxiety to kill her inside herself, because as soon as you get better, you become like her, that is, i myself would not want to be a mother, including, so as not to repeat the same thing, not to mention not to repeat it, but as soon as you become a mother, you stop being a daughter, and you still play that game, as if mom will come to her senses someday and you will finally you will truly become that daughter, it is clear that now your mother has nothing to do with it, she is a woman who is not needed...

investing in this story with anorexia, it’s about the fact that you would like to return that mother and get what you did not receive then in childhood, to receive that attention, that warmth, that care, that closeness that was not there, proteria maxim kozlov, vladislav igorevich petrushko, i am vladimir ligoido, we gathered our thoughts about the baptism of russia, then let’s say, charlemagne half of the saxons destroyed in order to baptize the other half, we have nothing we don’t see anything like this when talking about the baptisms of russia.

the soviet union is no more, now you can earn a lot of money in a completely legal way. have you heard anything about the oil for food program? do you have any idea how big it is? but is there not enough oil in russia? this is a completely different level. oleg and i decided to get married. yes, you have been accepted into nyu's master's program. and they gave me a scholarship. you and i just live differently.

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we usually eat this dish with bread, vegetables, and red wine sauce. here's another rib for you, please. it’s normal to go to uruguay, the lives of others, the premiere is next sunday on the first, you are watching the triggers podcast with you, its host tatyana krasnovskaya and sergey nasebyan, our guest is nicole, and we are talking about anorexia, us now including our colleagues, i know that many colleagues are watching us, they then write to me, so for the colleagues who are now watching and for you, as for... future colleagues, i can say that in long-term psychotherapeutic work , psychoanalytic , psychodynamic approach, i would consider another version, you are trying very...

not to become disidentified, leaving her with all the problems that existed, all that psychology, psychotherapy can do in this sense is to find a way for you to live through everything these elements that are not so grabbed that child and lived his life separately from his mother, separately from this girl , to understand that in general, no matter what size you are, you, by the way, are a big plus of your anorexia, let’s call it that way, your disease. you know your body very well, and this is an invaluable gift, and if you start with this, if in the end in your training

you go a little deeper into a body -oriented approach, for example, then you just have a huge treasure trove of knowledge about how it works your body, which most people don't have, and if you start it just listen, nothing more, learn to just listen to your body. do not explore it by experimenting on it, listen to it, then it will be a beautiful melody, this is very cool, your training in psychotherapy is, in fact, psychology, psychotherapy, the plus is that you can take it not as knowledge, not as just science , not as a theory, but take it and work with it right away, make it an applied mechanism. then you will be able to help yourself to a huge number of people, yes, thank you, but now, right at this moment, to me it seems that the most important thing is just

to uh split with this girl, you are so united with her that you tell her story, living her life, but you are already different, and how to enjoy your own body, love it is the same the main thing is, exactly, yes, i think that our conversation today, i don’t know how useful it will be for you, but it will definitely be useful for a very large number of people who watch us, thank god, after all, anorexia is not such a common diagnosis as could be, here, but it's very interesting, if you you will be a little closer to your own emotions, yes, for example, to the same hatred, because hating your mother is not the same as not loving her. this is a separate feeling from the love that you experience, but you have it, and if you learn to live it, let’s say, autonomously from your relationship with your mother, live it

for real, explore this feeling, then it will simply pass from the unconscious dynamics into the conscious field, or in other words, let's say, there our colleagues from the gestalt approach would tell you that your anorexia is your hysterical attempt to get out of... i wish you success, thank you for talking to us about this today, thank you for what you are leaving with, there is something that you can take from

ours, from our communication, and of course, it was very useful for me to discuss my problems with you, and i will think about how i can further develop them. the topic of a body-oriented approach, about the fact that i know my body very well, this is right to the point, an organism, not just a body, an organism, yes, i even know how to tune it to something, you very purposeful, i repeat, however, only a very strong purposeful person can fully regulate like this, yes, about the experience of emotions, no matter what? they were, yes, not only positive, loving, but also that is, learn to work, accept and live precisely some painful,

unpleasant ones...

well, it was the triggers podcast, we were with you, its hosts, psychologist tatyana krasnovskaya, psychotherapist sergei nasibyan. nicole was our guest, in my opinion, it was a very deep conversation for the night. all you can watch episodes of the triggers podcast on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru.

hello, this is the baden badon podcast and i am its host, konstantin severinov. today our guest is denis lagunov, academician of the russian academy of sciences, deputy director of the gomaleya institute and one of the main developers of the sputnik vaccine. and today we will talk about vaccines. hello, denis. hello, konstantin. share your thoughts on why, it would seem, after... more than 100 years of widespread use of vaccines in medical practice, there are so many doubts about the advisability of their use, is there any answer to this question? in fact, the question is complex, the first is some kind of medical fact, which definitely needs to be mentioned, let’s look at the overall impact of the vaccine on the human population, how many lives per year, for example, are saved there from infectious diseases, as a result of the introduction there:

national calendars vaccinations and vaccination calendars according to epidemic indications, that is , about 4 million, you mean in our country, no, in the world, in the world, this is an impact on the world, that is, 4 million deaths per year are prevented as a result of vaccination, and somewhere, but how is this possible, if the person did not die, then he says, no, there is , of course, there are absolutely clear methods of calculation and statistics, there are, accordingly, countries that have greater coverage, less coverage, on these differences in the number, the number of deaths , you can easily calculate, plus... statistics from previous years, but the most important thing is that i also want it should be noted that approximately in countries where there is no vaccination, despite the fact that there is a vaccine, approximately another million lives are lost according to such rough, natural estimates, that is, which could be prevented as a result of vaccination, but are not prevented, what diseases are we talking about, these are primarily those included in nch, measles, rubella, paratitis, that's all that is included in the national vaccination calendar, these are the main diseases, which, accordingly, are the leaders in

the number of deaths. after infection, now there is still a purely psychological factor with vaccines problem, we always vaccinate a healthy person, and we always treat a sick person, so when a person is sick and seeks help, especially if the illness is severe, any methods of intervention are practically acceptable; when we vaccinate, they are acceptable in the sense that the person accepts them and accepts them , of course, when we vaccinate a person, even if he is sick, he is not sick with the same covid. or the flu, he believes that he is healthy if it turns out to be some kind of case, even if there is a one in a million case, and approximately since modern times vaccines, severe adverse reactions, that is , really very low levels, then even in this case, there is actually a public outcry about the question of vaccination, so we treat the sick, vaccinate the healthy, and this is actually the key to constant fermentation about vaccines, well, plus one more thing there is no culture of vaccination

in adult society, what does this mean? but we always vaccinate quite, as if with good readiness, we vaccinate our own children, it’s not a pity, yes, at the same time, as soon as it concerns ourselves, it immediately becomes scary, there i'm scared to remove a tooth.

in fact, there was always a reaction from society, people were even chained in england, then there were different times, different morals, they were forcibly vaccinated against smallpox, now it ’s hard to imagine, and it was government policy, it was government policy, i mean that

this is the refractoriness of society, it doesn’t change, i don’t know why this is due, well , i can try, today we are trying to explain what this is connected with, but in fact, she never disappeared anywhere, she always there has always been mistrust of vaccinations. what is it based on, that’s what the numbers started saying, one in a million, not one in a million, past vaccines, now they say that past vaccines were good, everyone says that soviet vaccines were made correctly in mind, that’s in particular your vaccine was made very quickly and it cannot be, this is actually a ridiculous statement, because well , now we are looking at cars, yes, that is, cars there at the end of the 19th century and cars at the beginning of the 21st century are very different. so here are the vaccine technologies that pasteur used there, koch, there, i don’t know, there were the great founding fathers, they are actually absolutely antediluvian, they were dangerous, but they also did more good than harm, of course, they did more good , this is absolutely

certain, even such poorly purified vaccines, at the moment the regulator of any country in the world, simply by allowing nucleic acid, local proteins, will not allow a single such vaccine, that is, everything that...

i’ll just remind you that adenovirus - this a component of the satellite vaccine, it is not pathogenic in itself, it occurs naturally in many people, and this adenovirus has been modified to carry the coronavirus gene, to which the vaccine

response occurs, it seems, i think i said correctly, correctly, absolutely moreover, two regions were removed from him, one region that is responsible for the initiation of reproduction, well, genome replication, this is region one, and another region that is responsible for interaction with the immune system. this is e3, so it is such an inert carrier initially not a very severe human pathogen, that is, which has completely lost the ability to reproduce in humans, that is , initially in humans it does not induce any... diseases, no thrombosis, no tumors, nothing, that is, this is huge data, there were even studies, when the american army was vaccinated with live single viruses of types four to seven, then in a sample of these military personnel who had been vaccinated for decades, they looked at the structure of somatic diseases in older people, and did not find there are no population differences, so to say that adenoviruses have not been tested for humans, but in fact this is exactly the black ... pr that took place, that is, then it turns out that the single-virus

platform, it has been studied, and not that, that this was all done very quickly, as far as i understand, there was no need, so there were long-term studies of the effectiveness of the vaccine, which are beyond the horizon, you know, after development there 5 years, 10 years, that’s when they remember the good soviet times, they say that the vaccine then, completely right, there was a completely different story, soviet vaccines, many were, for example, completely attenuated and you understand that from... a tested vaccine, this is when there remains an already weakened residual pathogenicity, and there were examples including with flu vaccines, when strains of this arose, they returned, there was a reversion to the wild pathogenic phenotype, genotype, this is the vaccine of the old generations, it can cause the very disease against which, but well, in particular the vaccine against influenza, modern vaccines against influenza, they have already learned to avoid this, they have made a subunit.

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host, konstantin severinov, my guest is denis lagunov, one of the main developers of the russian sputnik vaccine, and we are discussing vaccination in general, the development of new vaccines and the benefits of the potential risks of vaccination. so you could evaluate, in your opinion, i understand that you are one of the developers, probably interested. but here's how many doses of sputnik were used us in the country, what do you estimate the effect in terms of lives saved, how many severe cases of adverse events, according to your information? effects, here are three figures, approximately , let’s even move away from the russian data, let’s take the argentinean data, they are actually transparent and apply absolutely also to the russian population, out of a million, just over a million doses, one single severe, serious undesirable effect was reported, it happened to a woman, in my opinion it was

somehow connected with the situation with a blood clot, yes, with blood clots, the case was, in my opinion , non-lethal, non-lethal, that is, it was one... rapport in a million, that is, if we compare with any other vaccines, including mrna one in a million, then it turns out yes, approximately absolutely the same thing, but the only thing is that we have incomparably fewer myoccorditis, that’s why tamka’s vaccine is simply incomparable, so modern vaccines, one in a million, are the result of an undesirable phenomenon, and this is not yes, not not death, but something like this is the story, in russia is why why do you think that in russia is the same, no, in russia the same raid is bigger.

i'm not in russia, in russia there are about 100 million, that is, we are talking about 100 million, this is about, well, according to statistical expectations, about 100 people, yes, but in reality there were less, there were about thirty or 60 cases , there are dozens of statistics like this, but if 100 million people were vaccinated in our country, well, we don’t even have to break it down into different vaccines, let’s not do that, but imagine that 100 people were vaccinated, 100 million were vaccinated, as you what do you think the effect in terms of lives saved, and it is very easy to answer this question. which actually lies on the surface, you just need to break it down again into three parts: protection from infection, protection from hospitalization, protection from death, death, probably after all, yes, that’s right, absolutely right, everything else can be done this way or that otherwise, drop in drops, but hospitalization is not particularly morbidity, people just don’t come in , but you can easily

look at the mortality rate, and here moscow conducted a very good, correct study, because what can actually happen, that's when there were clinical trials, no, no, this is even a turnover, i will now talk about all of moscow, there were approximately 5,200 people there who were unvaccinated, not covered, and approximately 5-300 vaccinated, and moscow was assessing covid , covid-associated deaths, because well, a person is hospitalized, he can die from thrombosis, and most often died from thrombosis, and some kind of cardiovascular complications or bacterial complications, then the diagnosis of covid is not always made, then there is if he died there on the iv. there , a month after that, they don’t diagnose that there was covid 19, yes, so if we evaluate covid and covid-associated deaths in this group, well, in both in both groups, we will get the following figures: about 100,000 people died in the unvaccinated group in my opinion, there are 6,000,

more than 10 times, but they died in the group of vaccinated people, and this needs to be taken into account. in fact, everything is even more complicated; in fact, one must take into account that the uniformity of vaccination of the population, which was not achieved it worked, that is, to enter the coefficients, no, well, it seems to me 99.00 versus 600 on the same sample of people, these are telling 78 numbers, well , certainly telling, i was just trying to complicate them. they were published, i honestly didn’t know about it, no, this is on the website of moscow vladimirovna rakova spoke with these stories when she was preparing, she accordingly, well, since the data is not ours, it is... the data of the department accordingly is not yours in this sense, you are not particularly you could not, but i cannot help but be interested no , you are of course interested in the result and show that all this data is accordingly objective - this data is not the gomal center, but what does this mean for the future? well, covid is in a sense history, although not entirely, but you probably use an adnovirus

platform to create new vaccines?