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equal to other meat, that's what's the difference? let's define what we generally consider red meat: beef, pork , lamb, horse meat, venison, or deer meat, or elk meat , goat meat, goose meat, duck meat, we'll also leave two points for chicken, just drumsticks, thighs, and turkey meat, we'll also include wings there, these are the main ones. which we eat, then beef, pork , lamb - this is what we eat, this is still not the most common meat, quite often, most of us, here this is red meat, they often say poultry, i say that in principle yes, that's the basis, but what is the difference between white and red, in red meat there is... such
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a substance meoglobin, this is exactly the substance that will deliver to us later this same iron, along with oxygen, so if you take the percentage content of meoglobin in chicken legs, there will be about 0.5, yeah, in the same beef one and a half and up to 2%, that is, well, an incomparable difference, well yes, pork lamb is significantly inferior to beef, by the way, the most saturated meoglobin meat - horse meat. what else is so important in meat in general, including red meat. meat is the largest, after eggs, source of animal protein. again, animals, plants, yes, why do we animals so, so much distinguish from plant protein in terms of protein, because plant protein is very, very difficult for us to access, the most-most accessible. this is soy, well, for russia it is not
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very typical to eat soy, well, tofu there somehow became, no, well, on the other hand, and peas, peas for us are typical food, what do you think, how much protein can we absorb from beef, well i know the answer, yes, thank god, well let everyone else know, that is, it is more than 90%, yes 92-95, approximately the highest absorption is from an egg, a chicken egg 98. and from soy we will absorb in the very best case 60-60 b5 according to some sources 68%. and our body will work at full capacity, that is , it will spend the same amount of energy on the absorption of this protein and soy, exactly the same as, the benefit, as you see, is almost twice as much less, yes, not only that, this is also the fact that we don’t eat it very often, and people who refuse animal protein, but say that they are complete... can get protein
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from nuts, from mushrooms, from mushrooms in general 23% only is available, very often i hear this argument: look at a zebra or a cow, they are so muscular, where do they get so much protein, yes, to form such muscle mass, from grass, from grass, yes, so they have this grass, excuse me, practically all of it is absorbed, and we only have a very small amount, and our stomachs do not book, yes, like the same herbivores and intestines. of such a size that while all this is passing, it would all be absorbed, no, unfortunately, this is not so, therefore, and animal protein is of high quality, it is exactly like that, because it also has the largest number of amino acids, essential, let's see, we have a picture about the nutritional value of meat, this is red meat, here we see exactly what it is rich in, and that's not all, there is almost the entire periodic table, yes, in a good sense.
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of this word, there is a lot of useful stuff, and we they haven't mentioned that same b-12, which is also impossible to get from anywhere except in a full-fledged form, except from animal protein and first of all from this very red meat, in just 100 g of this red meat there is almost 40% of the daily requirement of b-12, b-12 here... it says vitamins of group b, yes, in red meat there is not only b-12, but b-12 is a special representative of group b, vitamins of group b, therefore you can get it just from red meat, zuhra, but many believe that meat is not very healthy due to the fact that in there may be hormones in it, there are many myths here, and there is some truth, yes indeed...
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products, but they may not be of high quality, and - we know that animals get sick, not only does bird fungus exist, there are all sorts of diseases that cattle and small cattle are susceptible to, and of course, certain substances are used, and not only antibiotics, so that these animals do not die from infection, but steroids, i don’t know how regulated the use of certain substances is in our agriculture, but there are... such assumptions, let's say, or statements, yes, that all this is not very useful, but most often we hear such a more common scare story, red meat stimulates an increase in the risks of cancer, that if you eat red meat, you will definitely die from some kind of cancer,
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in fact, this is not true at all, unless you spoil red meat and do not really increase the risks associated with consumption. that in the conditions of the body's vital activity , the formation of end products occurs glycation, this is a completely natural situation, and in order to combat the excess formation of these end products of glycation, we have a system that counteracts this, so when everything is in
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balance, there is the formation of end products of glycation, there is a system that blocks the formation of their excess, the body copes, it is healthy, it does not age faster than ... this should be and no bad events occur, if a person begins to eat poorly, he has a lot of products with these end products in his diet glycation end products, then our system can no longer cope, these end products of glycation accumulate in tissues, causing the development of diseases such as cardiovascular disease, diabetes, obesity, aging and cancer, that's what most carries with...
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the method of preparation, and if you look, there will be 10 times more of these end products of glycation, why is grilled steak not an ideal method of cooking meat, because this is generally a system that is a reaction that leads to the formation of end products of glycation is called the mayer reaction, it is also called the tasty reaction, because well , it is stupid to argue that a steak is tastier than a steamed cutlet, well, essentially, well, yes, of course. yes, because more receptors will be involved, the reaction will be stronger, and of course, the brain will remember that it is tastier, but it is more dangerous, for example, if you take a steamed cutlet, yes, and even with lemon juice, then there are just pennies of these end products of glucation, if they are supplied
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so much, then the body will not even notice the loss fighter, this is not the situation that will cause olaryngitis, a logical question arises that all the largest numbers, like ... with lemon juice, it turns out that lemon juice is the product that reduces the amount of end products, any marinade, any, but if you marinate in vinegar, then of course there will be less end products of glycation, but ... the load on the gastrointestinal tract will be greater, therefore, not every marinade is suitable for us, and it is better not to vinegar, any, wine or some apple, namely lemon juice, there will be few end products glycation products and many benefits for the body, taking into account that lemon
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is also an alkali inside, then we will achieve even greater positive effects, here we have cooking methods, but we started to say that these... scare stories about oncology, red meat, they are associated not only with cooking methods, such as, for example, fried or on an open fire grill, but there is also... smoking, there is also the preparation of semi-finished products, sausages, sausages and so on, and we all know that than more added or in general, if you add nitrites or, which then turn into other derivatives, so they increase the amount of end products of glycation, i'm a harrow, i'm a harrow, but i love you.
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is the substance deception program, we're talking about meat, my name is olesya nosova, with me is zukhra pavlova, if you remember what is the absolute leader in end products of glycation, this is bacon, and there are only 13 g, and you won't believe it, there are 91 with ... as we usually see in american films fried for breakfast, how much is this, how many daily norms per person, well, almost four, four, four daily norms, yes, yes, and this is only two pieces, no one thinks what kind of bomb comes with these two pieces, the bomb is aging, yes aging.
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marin, it's all very tasty, and makes food tastier, but most importantly, it also prevents the formation of these advanced glycation products, here's a double-edged sword, on the one hand these products make food healthier, on the other hand they make it tastier, and you want to eat more of this food, so always stop yourself, everyone knows approximately what portion is that does not cause heaviness, you ate, you're full, you're full, but you don't have this heaviness, you get up not
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only with a light stomach, but with self-respect, well, in fact, zukhra, it turns out to be an answer to the question: is shashlik harmful? and shashlik actually turns out to be a perfectly balanced dish, in which the end products of glycation are compensated by the marinade, yes, if this marinade contains lemon, for example, or some of these good spices, then this charring is heavy, it's better to clean off the charring, i agree, yes, it would be better without it, and of course, after all i always call, and i say that you don’t need to become. biorobots, if you eat shashlik on some may holidays, yes, it’s a tradition, it’s unification, it’s positive emotions and so on, but nothing terrible will happen, but if you eat some kind of grill every day, and there’s meat, then it’s definitely not good, we all remember, including about padagra we talked about it somehow, this is exactly what, we also almost missed one important
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point, this is why, actually, do manufacturers of semi-finished meat products add these very nitrites, right? naturally bacteria will immediately join and will multiply on this nutrient medium, so that they do not multiply there and even if they appear there, they die, these nitrates are added there, that is, these are preservatives, but these same preservatives contribute to this nutrient medium, including among this same meat, this is protein, this is where end products of glycation begin to form and ... that is why sausages and generally semi-finished meat products are dangerous for this very reason, without nitrites they can kill a person due to all kinds of infectious agents, with them we produce end products of glycation, therefore, meat semi-finished products are not something that promotes health, but there are semi-finished products on which it is written without
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nitrites or nitrates, as how is it correct without nitrites, yes, this is such a big trick, yes - it is called organic sausage without nitrites, but bacteria are added there that perfectly synthesize these nitrites, do not allow various infections to multiply, but in the same way they produce end products of glycation, therefore, unfortunately, no matter how convenient it is, to cut off a sausage, to have a quick snack, this is not about that, immediately the fillet formula of love comes to mind, with a knife and fork we dig our own grave, you should not do this, by the way, a replacement for sausage is suvit, not in the sense that suvit is the same sausage, in the sense that you can cook a lot of it and use it as some kind of snack, what is suvit? it is meat that is cooked in a vacuum, that is , the meat is sealed in a vacuum bag and cooked in
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hot water, and the water can be whatever 98°. and it can be 60° and 50°, but it continues for quite a long time and you get absolutely wonderful products, zukhra, you know, the most delicious sous vide dish that i have eaten, it was eggs boiled in sous vide, that's true, if you put regular eggs in sous vide for an hour at a temperature, i think, or 50°, at a very low temperature, then the result is simply something divine, so, let's go back to meat, let's say that this duration of cooking, it helps to cope with infection, because yes, and in general , we do not recommend eating raw meat to anyone, because meat can contain parasites, pathogens, and so on and so forth, so it is very important to cook meat properly,
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and this can be either quick cooking, charring over a fire, which we recognize incorrectly. in a saucepan, i even saw videos on the internet of how they do it in a dishwasher, that is, yes, it's funny, something is sealed with a vacuum for a full cycle. dishwasher there, how much is there 2 hours 2 hours 30 minutes at a high temperature and you get a great great sous vide, but i think that all this is certainly not for meat, for meat i would like a more guaranteed
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result, so here are such interesting maneuvers, i would really like to note such an interesting story, in general concerning meat, it turns out that in our country over the past couple of years there has been a boom in chicken, people have started eating. a lot of chicken, guess why, i say, they can afford it, they can afford it of course, a boom in domestic tourism, what are people doing, when they come somewhere there to the countryside and so on, they start to fry shashlik, the most simple, affordable tasty shashlik - this is of course from chicken, that's how such a pleasant thing happens with us, well, thank god, because after all, meat is associated with even more.
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here again, returning to statistics, i also
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learned with great pleasure that we have the amount of red meat consumption in our country is also slowly and but is already growing 13 kg per person per year, in china eight only 13 kg per person per year, yes, this is in russia, it is necessary 20, if you looked at the statistics, maybe you will then find out that we are coping with our own production, or are we buying red meat somewhere? we export red meat, but we have a very steep start to import chicken and pork, pork is generally growing at a terrible rate, and the funniest thing in this whole story is that we export what we do not eat ourselves, for example, what we supply from chickens, chicken skin, oh what chicken feet, from pork. snouts, snouts, yes, yes, this is very, very much in demand in asian countries, we in fact, we are now among
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the top five suppliers of pork and poultry in the world, in second place for turkey, and in the top ten for beef, the most important thing is that no one really knows about this, i knew about it, i found out by chance, some experts just wandered in to see us, we like them... this is a deception of substances, we are talking about meat, my name is olesya nosova, with me is zukhra pavlova, there is also this very important point when we talk about giving up red meat, this is not just the formation of b-12 or iron deficiency anemia. there are also medical statistics, where parallels are clearly drawn according to research data, that people with iron deficiency or b-12 deficiency anemia,
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more often develop such terrible diseases as heart failure, cardiovascular diseases, ischemic heart disease, yes, all sorts of scary words, rheumatic diseases, diseases of the endocrine system, including the thyroid gland, well, that is, and these diseases. create favorable ground for the development of even more terrible conditions, so somehow not it is very good to violate the principles of dietetics, now dietetics itself is developing very large-scale, because a person flirts a little with this story, violating these principles, harms not only his health, but also very often in our country the culture of nutrition is formed in the family, which means several people eat incorrectly, so i would like that ...
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who refuses meat, he wants to be ethically correct, he plans to replace meat with fish or replace meat with beans, well, that, in principle, well, so that's it with a certain, so to speak, lifestyle, if you monitor your health, your tests and so on, take supplements, in principle, well, you can still do this and that, but in reality, life turns out to be much more. usually a person refuses meat, but what does he start eating? pasta, bread, light in various carbohydrates, fast food, fried potatoes, that is, everything that, in general, not that it does not replace meat, but in fact greatly aggravates the condition of the person himself, so i know such cases that people after such a diet, they begin to feel very bad
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to feel, right up to... you know, almost to paralysis, there is a story described in literature about a guy there, 25 years old, who also wanted to live without meat, started eating, that's how i told you, at some point he felt like he had no arm in the morning, yeah, in general it all continued, continued, he thought that he had just slept through it all, that it would all soon pass, but in general it didn't pass, he had to go to the doctors and the first thing... the doctors prescribed, after they studied, so to speak, the anamnesis, they prescribed him ivs with vitamin b, and everything was restored, so our good intentions are one thing, but life in general can be completely different, they often cite the example of indians, they say, well , indians can do it, i say, yes, you know, the body adapts, but it needs hundreds of years for this adaptation, indians, in fact , have not eaten red meat for hundreds of years, they have...
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adaptation mechanisms that have formed, but this did not happen right away, i once had a patient at an appointment, a very memorable one case, the girl has such a very, very beautiful face, at first i was amazed by such external beauty, and then she came in, we started talking, she says, let me show you right away, it will be easier, she began to undress, she has a tattooed body from the neck and here including the legs, only the feet and hands are free.
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animal, then she grew up only on vegetables and fruits, so her body could not rebuild so quickly, and this could not happen, on the skin, on some, let's say, such basic priority needs of this there was enough protein, although muscle mass was poorly developed, but for the skin - for skin protein for collagen, for elastin there was not enough, when it began to grow in adolescence, and also fast growth, this skin is just all in damage, sometimes it takes on such proportions, sometimes it can only be understood by some complaints after seeing a person's tests, and there is b-12 deficiency anemia and iron deficiency anemia, it must be said here that when a person does not eat this very red meat for a very long time, then in our stomach there is - cells that produce a substance capable of converting b-12 from its a previous form into an active one, so if all this does not enter the human
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body for a long time... then these functions can be lost forever, then, even if a person decides to eat this red meat, some of his enzymatic processes will not be restored, and he will always have to take active forms of vitamins of group b, there, b9, b12, including iron, which also may not be absorbed, so if you have made such a decision, consult with a nutritionist, they will at least tell you how to avoid some of these... severe consequences for the body, irreversible ones, yes, but it's one thing if this is what is called a person's decision, i won't eat meat, but if a person cannot eat meat, after covid there have been stories where people simply can't stand meat, again there are a lot of tricks that are such useful tricks, these are the same spices, marinade, yes, yes,
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again our favorite marinade, yes, lemon, these spices, they give so much of this a delicious smell that interrupts the smell that irritates a person, that's not what you want. i would like people to add some sauces like mayonnaise or ketchup, yes, it's very harmful, here are some herbs, yes , good for you, they can interrupt any smell, there are grains, rosemary, yes , anything, everything, everything that smells delicious, it can help a person overcome this barrier, good, but in the elderly, they have a disorder, just the ability to digest meat, it's hard for them, yes, unfortunately, nature doesn't care not only about us coming, but about us leaving, that's why we always have something sad wisdom, sad wisdom, they take away our teeth, yes, now dental practice is so successful that they can put teeth, then they take away our enzymes, we
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can't digest meat, very often elderly people say, such a heaviness after meat, i don't eat it anymore, it's extremely hard for me, this is also connected with the fact that without consuming animal protein. a person cannot restore his muscle mass, and there, where there is no muscle mass, the bones are also weak, because the bone has an organic matrix, and a person becomes physically weaker, he can support his skeleton, his body less, when falling, these bones break, because they become brittle, and this is another way to, as they say , remove us from the stage, so when a person's digestive system is disrupted, it weakens, then for this there are... wonderful gastroenterologists who, having understood what is happening, can help with the appointment of certain enzymes to help the digestive system to work properly. well, let's sum it up:
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you need to eat meat, can we say that meat made man human, because in principle, when the ancestor of man began to eat meat, his brain began to develop, so giving up meat is easy. reasonable, i agree, the most important thing is to cook it correctly, and it can be boiled, stewed, steamed, and baked, but in a sleeve, in foil, or this very wonderful sous vide, which makes it tasty and healthy, and a person will much healthier if you eat according to the laws of nature, and not your own. with you was the program deception of substances, my name is olesya nosova, i am the editor-in-chief of the newspaper komsomolskaya pravda. and with me was zukhra pavlova, a famous endocrinologist.
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hello, my name is dmitry bak, we have another edition of the literary podcast: let them not talk, let them read. today we will talk about a remarkable russian prose writer, one of the greatest russian prose writers, poets, and playwrights, critics and professors of the 20th century, and maybe not only of the 20th century, you probably already guessed who we are talking about, we are talking about vladimir vladimirovich nabokov, who is celebrating this year, well , a kind of anniversary, he is 125 years old, he was born in 1899, and the development of nabokov is going at a very fast pace, a rapid pace.
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hello, tatyana olegovna, i am very glad to see you today, and journalist, literary critic, researcher of nabokov's work, igor dimyanovich kiriyenkov. hello, igor dimyanovich, if you allow me, i will simply call you igor, i think it will be appropriate, and let's start with such a quick survey, here for you now, what is the most important thing in nabokov in his life, in his behavior, in his reputation, in his works.
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igor, and for you, and for me, i really appreciate in nabokov the absolute independence of judgments, his freedom. from other people's canons, the willingness to create his own and when he lived in europe, when he left for america, when he returned to europe, he was always on his own wave, with his own set of favorite authors, ideas about what literature should be and what it should not be, the second thing is his, probably, frantic hard work, because when you read his biography, especially the second volume of boyd, when he had already become the most famous author in the world, void, nabokov's biographer, just in case, let's explain, yes, you understand, at what a crazy pace he... worked, he could afford
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to do nothing else financially, to enjoy life, well, from a certain point, not right away, at the same time, every year he published a new book, an original, a translation, poetry, plays, prose, and this is very inspiring, let's start, of course, with childhood, yes, tatyana olegovna, here is nabokov's childhood, his origin, this is already the 20th century or still the nineteenth, here is childhood, adolescence youth tolstova, nikolenka ertenyev, what is a young man, butt? pho, how should he sit, yes, so that the shoulders touch the back, but the middle of the back is not, on the sides, what kind of person is this in childhood and adolescence? this was, of course, the most, probably, the most interesting and the most changing, rapidly changing time in general, look how wonderful, this is the nabokov family, the nabokov family, yes, all five children, and of course, nabokov was formed in russia, of course, although he lived here only for... 17 years, very little, yes, but these were
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still the years when a personality is formed, and since he also began writing quite early and even managed to publish, as we know, two two collections of poems, yes, which, of course, no one particularly noticed, well, it’s not surprising not to notice such a time, stars, yes, everyone wrote poems, he published them at his own expense, of course, we don’t know what kind of writer he would have become if he had stayed to live in russia and would have become, but of course his time created him, his family, as we know, but still it is the 19th century. his father was a man of a different time, because he was right at the turn of the century, his father, who, of course, had access to a brilliant career in the government, because he could easily, probably, follow in his father's footsteps, he was an excellent student in everything, both ministers, actually, and vladimirevich, of course, davich could have become a minister and in general, because he succeeded in everything , let's say right away.
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stopping the murderers died on the spot he saved melyukov, well, in general, as napoleon said, who drove up to balkonsky and thought that he had died, what a beautiful death, really very unusual, and in general nabokov's departure on his side can be called emigration in the full sense of the word, or not quite, it was like leaving to study, well, of course, it was a full-fledged migration, his family, his family was threatened with physical destruction as representatives of the establishment of the previous government,
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tolstoy's heroes, karina, the anglicized petersburg aristocracy, that is, there was no longer pierre and marie there, but steve, dolly, of course, love for tennis, for the most advanced hygiene, with what pleasure bokov describes the purchases of special soaps, pencils in st. petersburg, in general, this, he seems to grow literally from the text of russian literature, he would support you when you use the plural of the word soap, different soaps. it sounds very poetic, look, what do you think, or how, as far as
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you know, here is how nabukov was perceived this person, look how he was perceived, after all, as a russian writer or not, i had to, well, a very long time ago hear in different countries, and nabokov, yes, yes, yes, he is, of course, russian, but in general he is the only one, it seems, who switched completely and entirely to english, well, brodsky wrote in english, of course, many, but still not to the same extent as bokov. paris, all the best magazines, everyone printed him, of course, he was recognized, one of the best writers, as he said then, the word recognized is the key, for me, the younger generation, because, of course, if bunin was the main one in the older generation, then nabokov gradually became the number one writer of the young generation, but after being forced to move, fleeing from europe at the beginning of the war, the second
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world war, he gradually switched to english, but by the way, he remained, was he perceived as russian or not, an american, when he...
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vera ivseyevna, his wonderful wife, one marriage all his life, this is also not often for a writer, i can’t even figure it out right away, except for those who died early, so, naturally, well , like nazism wins in thirty-three, so here is the road to america, then back to europe. okay, but i'll still ask provocatively, point-blank, is there not a claim here, is
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there not another approach to non-russianness, besides football, boxing, and so on. i won't say chess, there was alekhine, a great chess player, although also an emigrant, but isn't there some kind of distraction from russian issues, a russian writer, he wants to resolve an idea, like gogol, he wants to change russia, and so on, isn't there some kind of flawed moment here from the point of view of the canonical image of a russian writer, who is about ethics and morality, and not about style. it seems to me that even in berlin, his critics were the first to write that it was somehow too alien to our traditions, we don’t say that, we say that such opinions also existed, we don’t belittle them in any way, it seems to me that if you read the correspondence of bunin’s generation there with zaitsev, with shmilev, he is completely alien to zaitsev, shmilev is definitely alien, yes, for them, yes, i agree, but the reader’s opinion about supplyism, yes, to the side
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, supplyism is too strong a word, it is based, it seems to me, on these on late novels in late interviews, it is clear that writers have, yes. i agree, his circle of writers, or rather not friends, after all, but rather his, or rather his writers' enemies, because all, well, like these writers, who, it is all basically his, well , rivals, enemies, yes, therefore duels, like they spoke very badly of each other, which is generally normal, there is such a custom of sitting around spitting on each other, we do not give out any moral assessments, i think the word supplyism is still too strong, right? yes, i understand, but we don't think whether it's good or bad, but how much it fits into the canon of the russian writer, it's a big question, after all, but in general, the summer of the lord, yes, of a dark alley, although there is also little desire to resolve the thought, but nevertheless a lot of passion, and
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here it's rather not a supplyism, but some kind of...

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