probably 80, thanks to her, and dad says: there is, so, there is some vacancy in the library, well, that's it, i went to work, and the vacancy was in the foreign department, there is the fifth department in the academy, and there were real foreigners there, germans, poles, who did not know russian, they were taught russian so that they could read all these textbooks, like all this, they organized such open lessons of the russian language, when they told some.

it's just like first love, it burns the heart, but there really is something there for me there were 17 years old and i understood what she was singing about, it's cool, what's the song like, yeah, i sang something like that, sang everything, like i sat back down in my place, there were some tables set and a yugoslav officer was sitting, well , naturally for me there was an old man there , he was about 35, oh, but i was 17, he was 35, he said, are you still going to sing? i said no, then i went, and he said something about not doing something nice for me, and he asked, will i come again, i said, no, that's it, i went. i really got up and left, then some more there foreign listeners also came up, i remember yemensky some golden voice, i also wrote, like some golden voice, and then i thought, maybe i should really go into a froth, because i understand that with acting it’s unlikely that anything will work out, well, people like it, like dachas, with me at karaoke it’s just a different situation, the exact opposite, he comes up to me and says: are you still going to sing? i say: yes, he gets up and leaves, there’s a podcast on the air... 20 years later

, we have the wonderful tatyana bulanova as a guest, that’s it slava, it was, it collapsed or was it gradual, the group letye sad was formed in the ninetieth year in december, yes in the ninetieth there was the first album, which completely passed by, no recognition, nothing happened, then in the ninety-first year with this don't cry somehow it seemed like they heard from us, we so little by little began to gain momentum only in the ninety-third year such a big first tour in the fall.

in 91 there was a grand prix for the song don't pay unexpectedly for everyone, i honestly admit that here probably when the realization came it was necessary to receive the award say thank you grand prix don't cry there it was also a separate story it was such a wonderful by the way there was a competition honestly we just came there ninety-first year may and kolya tagrin he worked in the group apple in general well he had some acquaintances there well not producers then there was no such word even administrators probably i don't know organizers of all sorts of all this, and he called a familiar organizer who just worked at this competition, he says, listen, he says, we, he says, seryoga, can , well, like, like, just insert broadcasts, so that they would be, so that they would see us, well, someone would recognize us, we came, that is, sang there for a day or two, on the third, like, they sort of understood how, that we can somehow, well, like, even take something, at least we didn’t think about it at all, but the voting was wonderful, as they would call it now sms, then naturally there were no phones or anything, in the large concert hall oktyabrsky such foe... columns on

columns there were just plastic bags white ones are glued with tape the name there, for example , a group for a boy, a group of summer gardens , i don’t know, someone else, ticket stubs, probably yes and no, they gave out to everyone who came in, just a piece of paper, took a white sheet of paper and threw it in , just an empty one, and like , this was such a vote, then when they were taking everything off, they were counting, i remember in the process there was natalya stupishina anka, if you remember, and i, and you? lyochik, and i was so glad, she also participated, she, i had witnesses, she had a lot, there were a lot, migrated from her, from her package, some other one, that is, it became such a thin package, that is, these votes left, and i remember that we - put our man and said, so stand, count, because well, how would you count this, we will already have something to argue about, i he came, says, listen, well, i counted 2,000, i can’t do more, and there was a hall of 3,700, they came in honestly, they came through the people, this is purely true, this is how they say, they vote with their rubles, so the public

voted, they really just threw their votes for us, and with rubles too, because they went to the concert hall for tickets, and then went hungry, let's listen to it on the podcast. 20 years later, that same famous hit - don't cry.

don't plavch, another night with you and me, one more time i'll whisper to you, you're mine, one more last time your eyes, will look into mine , a tear will suddenly fall. on my hand, and tomorrow i 'll be alone without you, but don't cry, don't cry, it so happened that fate didn't

give us, to be together with you, where are you... i was before, how late i met you, but this a moment, i know that now yours, only a cry, i will hold back tomorrow, now, stay with me for the last time.

understand, now i will not be able not to think about you, i myself do not know how i allowed myself that... you took my love at that hour when i saw you and whispered, yes, but you understand, understand me, because

you know how i love you, i love you. so know them, i will find you everywhere, wherever you are, i will fill all the sheets with poems for you, and if i meet you in the crowd, you will not... you will not turn off my path then, i will protect you from everyone, you will be mine, then forever, you are mine forever,

such old all sorts of old ladies, which were in our time, earlier, now it's all not the same, well, let's see what will happen in 20 years, and you continue to be romantic, despite the fact that here is the third marriage, the wedding, it was - what kind of wedding it was, i don't know, just by the third time maybe let's do it modestly, no, well, not at all, to be honest, like this one of mine, like this wow, i had it the first time, valera said it's not me who will have such a wedding, he says, well , i say honestly, i would at least have signed it wouldn't be the point, but it was still cool. and to be honest - this dress that's there just seems to me lazy like that didn't scold, but i wanted exactly the dress, well

, something's wrong there, there weren't any ruffles there, they came up with some kind of ruffles or something else there , i don't know, i'm still kind of fat in it, but i wanted exactly the wedding dress, so i naturally had a white one with a train, with a train with a photo, no, there was no photo, i've never had a veil, don't be jealous, sasha, it's just that i lived interestingly, it was my first time there was such a flower, the second time i had little namesakes in my head, and the third time such a thing, i just came up with it myself, my wedding, i do what i want. let's return to the voice as the main working instrument, how to preserve it, do you do some special ones, maybe exercises, maybe you categorically don't eat or drink something, it's just that konstantin aleksandrovich recently took up vocals, he is very interested, firstly, if you know - the structure of the gartan, then there are like ligaments, yes, and the gartan, when we swallow, it passes here pelega on the contrary, here i don’t know, where as if they don’t really know either, almost right, so that the ligaments get in, so that there is a good closure, you need peaches... oil is by the way a wonderful husband-at-law specialist you need to take an insulin

syringe entirely lie down here in the nose half a syringe as if to pour then it flows down the back walls gets svetki then already as if like this the mucous membrane is tender will remain as god with a heel as if somehow touched somehow as there is such an expression he has such a very interesting one by the way the most important thing is not smoking and nuts probably also categorically no i heard nuts chocolate seeds well to be honest i nuts somehow. before the performance there ate, well no such thing, on air podcast 20 years later, this is konstantin mikhailov, i am alexander anatolyevich, our guest is tatyana pulanova, let's remember the same ninety-first, when this moment is interesting, when there was no fame yet, there was some kind of dream that if suddenly i then, of course, i dreamed of some beautiful outfit, a suit in which you... now i have almost all dresses concerts they are all like that of the gypsy yes, but

i like it and it seems to me that when you go on stage and there is something distracting from even this is a kind of camouflage, because it's not even about that, it's just that i still have a lot of stage fright and i worry a little less than i did 30 years ago, but still no i swear i swear and corporate parties i love corporate parties because firstly it's only 30-40 minutes, well an hour maximum. everyone is dancing, everyone is so cheerful, as if everyone is singing along, i really like it, it reminds me the beginning of our activity, when we worked mainly at discos and there people danced, i like halls less, i always worry, because when people, i like everything and there is such a sitting hall, what are you going to show there now, well, come on, i and what can i show, my god, i don’t really know how to do anything like that, i can show a dress, well , the dress turned out, yes, if it happens that the dress doesn’t really shine, in general, i also somehow, well, i don’t know, i always adore corporate parties with such a schedule? i hope it’s very tight, both then and now, when we have time to accumulate energy to be at home, to be

a wife, to be a mother, unfortunately, very rarely, and i understand that after that , if i have such a busy schedule, so tight that i can’t breathe at all, i need at least a week, okay, 3 days, so that i just lie at home or sit at home, i don’t watch tv, i don’t have to put on makeup, get ready, or dress up, i just spend my time like this... day, and my favorite activities are watching old movies, from the thirties, i have a channel there they show from silent films to there, i think until forty-five of the year. yeah, about the corporate party, where is it more in moscow or in st. petersburg? you live in two cities and like a train, an airplane, and a train, a train, an airplane is extremely rare, when i need to be on time, here i am today there is some kind of filming and i need to be in st. petersburg in the evening, of course 3.5 hours, and the train is a fast seated one, or this compartment with a clinking spoon, to be honest i like the night ones, they leave at 23:30, arrive at 8:30, can get enough sleep and it is comfortable,

he has a tv, he has this is such a classic, at night you are here in the morning... basically the night goes by like well a private compartment without snoring neighbors of course yes separately i once traveled in plastic cars in a compartment everywhere oh my god yes yes of course i can imagine what the ends were all over the country and i'm not tired of traveling i guess i still do well there was a period when corporate parties just appeared and we understood about the nineties i really didn't get out of touring i wasn't at home i remember some kind of shoes i had autumn i think or winter i put on some kind of autumn spring. i was not at home, i come for 2 days, i arrive there change things in the suitcase and again we go there for three weeks for a month when the opportunity arose just like that, well, like, to feed the family no longer with concerts, we generally refused and to be honest i had an anniversary concert well already there 4 15 years ago in oktyabrsky and i still liked it so much it was great and we resumed it again

now there was a performance in the moscow region now somewhere there will be well so little by little somehow again we're coming back but no, well why in fact our people are so kind, so tactful, there are, of course, ill-mannered ones, there are, but there are few of them, but come on, sing, well i can answer, so that a person may never come up to me in life, tatyana ivanovna can answer, don't worry, well of course she was rude, thank god rarely, but there were such periods, well suddenly

sometime, that there were fewer tours, they don't recognize her so often, not so many. engagements and corporate events and i think, something needs to be done, something needs to be included, well, of course, a dress something else is needed, something else, there were such anxious moments, wait, but i no, no, it happened, it always happened, of course, naturally it happened, that a little less there, that some in the country, something happens, the situation in the world, yeah, i don't know, somehow the album is unsuccessful, something like that happened, of course, but it's okay, i always knew that i'm generally such an optimist in life, i always knew that nothing, we'll endure and it will be fine, we'll work, now record. new cool in general hands never dropped your new album tanya breathe by the name of one of the songs in what cases does she have to say to herself tanya breathe in fact i you know here the artist comes out when the stage but no one knows what 's going on there he feels bad there someone betrayed him someone i don't know scolded there he had a fight with someone or something

else happened i by the way had such a story well such a sad my mother passed away on the day of... corona i had a job and i deliberately didn't cancel it because i understood that if i came home and just so after the commemoration of everything i will come home and just lie down, i may not get up anymore, it's just that there was such a connection with my mother, such a well, just well, well, at the level of i don't know, space , probably, of some kind, when of course she passed away , it was very hard for me, this work , it saved me, so to speak, that's how it is, too , tashi, and i remember that on that day it was very hard to sing everything because when there is no tone, the ligaments are somehow not like that. as needed, yeah, and there were a couple of songs that needed to be changed, so that, well, so that there would be a plus, because well, well no, it doesn't sound right, no one needs it, it's not that physics, my voice doesn't listen, well, that's it, that's one of those moments, you don't breathe, why don't i breathe, that 's it, or let's say, i understand that i need to say or sing something, but i want to cry, and i don't like that in fact, despite the fact that i have fame as a crying singer,

to cry just like that, hop, start crying, i feel ashamed somehow, i can cry, i went backstage and... get ready, so i started breathing, so that somehow, somehow, breathing, what breathing, you can drink some water there, that 's how it all goes away, tears, the ideal man - if for a woman, then a man who respects a woman, who loves, who takes care of, takes care of, yes, appreciates, the most important thing, well and of course the antonym of this is betrayal, well rudeness, betrayal, some kind of bad manners, inattention, inattentive, yes, i mean that it's time to listen to the song betrayal performed by ... tanya bulanova in a podcast 20 years later. thank you very much for this frank conversation, somehow it became brighter and warmer. with us was the most popular, the most beloved, the most loving. singer, also a mother and wife, honored artist of the russian federation, tatyana bulanova. in the podcast 20 years later. thank you.

the liner landed, the city, hello, he told me, i returned earlier, and you didn’t know about it, i was in a hurry to see you, i rushed by taxi, you suddenly opened the door for me to come in. and didn’t invite, and you lowered your eyes and even turned pale, over your shoulder, i see my

friend, embarrassedly said that you weren’t expecting me at all, well, how are you... after all, we are so believed in each other, i went to the kitchen, my hands were shaking so finely, you were standing in the doorway, holding her coat in your hands, i turned to you and said, quietly to her, you stay here, it seems he needs you more, i ran downstairs, you

screamed something at me from the very end, and i only knew, you betrayed me, my beloved, the wind hit my face and the rain hit me harder... knocking how could you, how could you betray me, my dear, how could you, how could you betray me, my sweet,

hello everyone, this is tatyana gevarkyan and nekomshita, today we turned our studio to the blooming laboratory, we will study the art of alfa-texture, what is it, we will figure it out together with perfumers kirill khaikin and polina kazakova, what kind of profession is this? the world and where is it studied and is it necessary to study it or is it a talent? certainly there must be a talent at the base or at least some inclination or love for perfumery and interest, but is some kind of heightened sense of smell necessary, the sense of smell is trained, it is like a big muscle, alpha-actor memory is trained and trained by the sense of smell, if an ordinary person can listen to three or four notes and his nose gets tired, then a perfumer can listen for 8-10 hours a day and his nose... is trained, and of course you need to learn this. i studied myself, i studied for a long time, the process is definitely long, and i'm still learning, i think every perfumer, he studies throughout his life, by the way, i wanted

to add that it's never too late to start doing perfumery, because in fact our olfactory bulb is the center of the brain that analyzes aromas, it develops throughout life, that is, you can improve your sense of smell at 20, at 60. and as you understand in general, why are you interested in this, how did it start? in 2018, i wanted to create my own perfume brand, before that i was a marketer, i worked in marketing for 10 years, and after looking at the shelf, i realized that there were no russian perfume brands in stores that could compete with foreign ones, i looked for perfumers all over russia, i realized that there were none, and decided to become a perfumer myself, i studied at the graz institute of perfumery, this is a course that allows you to learn the basics, then, as kirila said, this is in france, yes, this school. already at the end, probably, a career

only you can do some global things, well, i went into the perfumery of the country of chemistry, that is , i researched the compositions of fragrances, looked at a lot of these compositions myself, learned to make, that is, i like perfumery in this way, that you invent your own science, you develop your own thinking, and no one can instill it in you, only it is only yours, since 2024, together with the mendeleyev university of chemical technology of russia, and we are developing a program that will release pro... which can make formulas for perfume, candles, home fragrances and any other products, adapt it, it will be a full-fledged specialist, yes, it is very good for polina that she participates in this, because our school of professionalism was completely destroyed after the soviet union, now it is gradually developing again, i recently

talked to a chemist who, back in soviet times, it turns out, made pendokanalite musk in russia, they transferred it to france this formula, it is a very expensive musk, it turns out that it was invented in russia, in general, in principle, we had an institute for the synthesis of chemical substances, fragrant substances, and how does the process of creating aromas happen, it's like a chemistry lab, where you sit, mix aromas or... or you have some inspiration when you walk through a spice market, where these aromas mix with the aroma of flowers, and you think, well, this is the very aroma that i want to recreate, or is it pure chemistry, no, aroma begins with an idea, so after an idea appears , inspiration either from an oriental spice market or a trip or the sea, a salty sea wave can simply give such

some inspiration. inner strength, you want, i want to make this fragrance, you go to the lab, you select a certain component for each fragrance that you have in the perfume composition that you want to hear, you make up this formula, you catch the balance when you hear that i came to this particular sea wave, these are these stones heated by the sun, this is how they smell, that's when the idea was realized, that is, perfume begins with an idea, sometimes the idea can change, it's nothing, nothing in this there is nothing scary. it can come during the creation of perfume, another idea, here, but they are taken from some different places and in a completely random order, but really, as a professional, this is art, this is not science and in no way science, but for me as an ordinary person it is very difficult to understand, for example, as polina said, i want to recreate the aroma of salt water of stones heated by the sun, what is this, for example, from what you brought, what you used, for example, we take mineral notes,

this aroma alone will not convey the full picture that is here you need to add add citrus yes in order to feel the explosion of the wave this is like a sea breeze really.

very familiar, yes, yes, yes, it is in almost all perfumes, here, and also take this, this strange, this is something very strange, this is just adoxal - this is salt water, yes, take it with sand, your notes, this is clementine, clementine essential oil, this is how a perfumer works, we take several blotters, combine them, understand how it sounds, are we going in that direction or not, if not, you need so replace the component, for example. here something is superfluous now, as if the aroma is such, as if someone died at sea, that is, let's reanimate some dead animal, add some thunderstorms, this is a colony of florality, no, dopekal, dopekal, this is floral, yes, this is yes, this can be put here and maybe, we don't know, we can't superfluous, wait.

here is some kind of carrion, and doxal is used in micro concentrations, here we have torn off half, and and you move it into the background. but this does not mean that they are the main and not the main passwords, they are all together, that is, and maybe a fragrance is created, take flowers, the same amproxan, some leather notes, but if you want to add a little saltiness or minerality, a microdose, there is 1/4% aroma. some kind of aldehyde or some other aromas are added that permeate this perfume and it becomes special, and how do niche fragrances differ from mass-market? well, sound, of course, sound, since mass-market is perfume

for the masses, as the name suggests, they are the main function of the mass market - to smell and please everyone, because of this the mass market has no character, that is, when you sniff, you smell either fresh. or something abstract, incomprehensible, well, and niche perfumes, selective is not very correct to say, because any aroma that i choose can be selective, it will become selective, i can choose mosmarket, here they are shvyduhe, they are notable for the fact that they have a more obvious character and because of this they lose a lot in the audience, that is, someone does not like flowers, someone does not like leather, yeah, we immediately cut off this part of people, and the essence of low-end perfumes is that they are most often unisex, in order to attract a little more audience, we cut off a very large part and unite a little, and if you look from the point of view of commerce, and niche perfumes have practically no budget restrictions, mass market - the concentrate should cost per kilogram, for example, 50 dollars, from

a kilogram of concentrate you can make a huge barrel of perfume, when we make niche perfumes, we can use those rare oils, even expensive ones, here are the most expensive ones, the cheapest, tell me, what is the most expensive? euros per kilogram, here is how much 10 euros in cakes in such quantity you add, and ut is 40, ut is you euros per kilogram, here ut from what is this agarwood, in fact it is, well, it is a tree that was eaten by a fungus and it was subjected to, how much?

which is added to baked goods, vanilla is real such a perfume, it is not sweet, it is such a leathery, smoked very deeply, yes, probably, if there is a note of oud or a note of vanilla and a note of rose indicated in the perfume, this does not mean that there are such these natural materials, they are definitely not in the model, cheap perfumes are definitely not added expensive components, and what are the cheapest components? the cheapest, well, these are those that are used everywhere in household chemicals in powders, this could be, musks could be, this could be aldehydes, here we showed so fresh die your aldehyde, of course, it is possible, this is ... this is the same class of compounds, but they can be of slightly different structure, this is such a pure powder, i think i

have already stopped feeling, yes, drink some water, well, i've lost my sense of smell, c12 is the aldehyde that gives coconut, minerality to perfume, oh, by the way, yes, very often in stores they offer to smell coffee, because it seems to refresh the receptors, and i noticed that it doesn't work, here kirill confirmed my words, yes, it doesn't work, because it's another smell that also strongly, maybe even more heavily loads your nose, here it works only if you've smelled very few aromas and you just need to switch from the aroma that was previous, you smell coffee because it's a familiar aroma, you switch and you can smell another, but if