in another, and not in yourself, why don't you have anything to do during these 15 minutes when you're waiting for him, that's the thing, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, but something at this moment gives you reason to believe that everything is very unfair, yes, well, let's talk about injustice, what kind of injustice is yours, well, if we exaggerate it like that, well, i keep our agreements, but he doesn't, always. well , of course, in my head it seems to me that he always does, but in reality probably not, well, i mean, if i remember something now, then he there will also be something to say, of course he will have something to say, 100%, and what is the agreement, to come at 7:00 pm or to be home at 7:00 pm, there may be something from the region, i will be leaving work in an hour, for example, i am there by this time, for example, preparing dinner, well, there is something like that, that now we are all there with the whole family. and he can

stay there, everything will cool down, everything is already there, the whole mood is already over, while you are already waiting, this is some kind of injustice, well, we kind of agreed, well, for example, this i mean, you just imagine that he is sitting there at work and thinking, well, yes, i promised, but no, it’s okay, i’ll come later, well, rather, it happens that he comes there...

normal, but why do you choose the opposite, well , why between a call, which is about work, as i understand it, and making dinner and sitting, waiting for him, because he may be late at that moment, you choose to sit and wait, well, for example, you agreed that you will be home at 7:00, yes, you made dinner by 7 o’clock, but the person is not home at 7 o’clock, well, you we had dinner and went to call, for example, yeah, he came, finished what was left, cold, maybe. you work at that time, let's say, or you take care of the children, why is such a picture impossible? it is possible, but in reality, if such situations develop, that is, when i, let's say, okay, this later - all the same will turn into a quarrel, but let's say, because he comes, he demands attention to himself, that is, i came, you couldn't do all your business there while i'm not there, here i am, give me attention, yes, and how can i pay attention to you if at the time when... i could do all my

things, i was waiting for you, there is a feeling that i am waiting for you - this is some kind of your business, so i call and say: tanya, what are you doing, waiting for my husband, well this is somehow stupid, yes, no, this is definitely stupid, but you can answer like this, that's the thing, i'm interested in how you are waiting for him, well , how you go out in the house like where are you, where are you, looking out the window there, where is it, where is it, it's freezing outside, there's a blizzard, what is it, no, i 'm doing some things.

that dogs can count the time, that's what at such a distance, maybe he could smell me, i don't know, yeah, well it doesn't matter, that 's what's called waiting, yeah, that is, the dog, she waited like this, she looked at the door for her beloved owner to come. at the same time , she didn't care that the house was full of people, someone could give him food or something else, he wasn't distracted, he waited, well, try to wait like that, sit down on the little one, look, we agreed with you that you're coming, you know, whether you are or not, i sit down opposite the door at 7, you don't need to say anything, i'm waiting, you don't need to do anything tell your husband, you need to sit down and wait so that you see the absurdity of this situation and

stop doing this, then you will do all the things that you usually do, but you will simply stop waiting for this, that's exactly the same question i asked my son. when he was still in school, what are you doing at school? i study at school, what does that mean, i go to school, you can go to school and not study, in general, what he managed to do, you can, i sit in class, you can sit in class and not study, you can, i listen teachers, you can listen to the teacher, not study, you can, there i answer, you can answer and not study, you can, well, that is, when you slowly take away from there just these countermeanings, you suddenly see that you are doing absolutely meaningless actions and unfortunately.

and something there i stir the pan with my right foot or play with the child, no, to wait - this is to sit like this opposite the door and sit to wait, i assure you, once will be enough for the children too, and this is in fact such a cultured cat, because when we looked, for example, in childhood, soviet films about the war, yes, there was, well, i can’t remember the names of these films now, but there were such films... when they say, like, who is this, they say, this is afrasinya, a soldier’s wife, waiting for her husband, what does it mean, waiting for her husband , she ’s been waiting

for him for six years, well, how does she wait, she’s giving birth to children at that time, i don’t know, she walks, feeds them, looks after the cow, there’s something else, she’s waiting, because this state of waiting, it’s as if it appeared, it had some meaning, in fact, when i try to ask the question is, what is the point of this, i'm waiting, there is none, and if you commit meaningless actions? it's like the whole humanistic psychology is built on this, then you stop valuing yourself, because you commit meaningless actions, this is not an activity, and if this is not an activity, then respect for yourself drops to zero, when your respect drops to zero, a person comes, you transfer your own disrespect for yourself to him , you think that he does not respect you, so interesting, it is applicable, yes, it is in such a way in some global sense, i'm waiting for some. i'm looking for mushrooms, of course, yes, i walk, i'm looking for mushrooms, you can find nothing, but for the whole day you can enjoy the activity, because it

is an activity, it is meaningful, when we remove this meaningfulness from there, then we begin to do absolute nonsense, this disrespect for myself for the fact that i so aimlessly... senselessly, carelessly waste my life in general, makes us transfer this act of disrespect to another person, therefore the conflict, i now i imagined myself in your husband's place, and when this expectation went away, i just wanted to come home, i wanted to come home, because you have some interesting life there, because you are doing well there, in fact, that's how it is. in general, when you take all this away, even sergey said that one situation like this would be enough to wait, even in my, in my, in my head i already imagined it and i don't really want to play it anymore, come on, so next time,

when he asks you, like, what are you doing, and you say i'm waiting for you, well, i think that there will already be heartburn from this answer, thank you, this is just such a revelation. because , well, unfortunately, i say this was loaded into the consciousness with various elements, when you have to wait for someone or what am i waiting for, well , you wait well, that is, he will come happily, he won't come, well, well, he won't come, but you are busy with your own life at this time, that's when waiting becomes meaningful, then this waiter, remember there was such a doll, we are waiting, well... you are watching the podcast triggers, our guest today is tatyana, with whom we are talking about how to cope with the fear of loneliness in family relationships, in this loneliness there is fear, we have isolated it, there is this waiting, waiting, and i don’t

care what else is there, how you feel it, i have already basically described it, i just don’t know how else to say it in more detail, um, if about the fear itself, how i feel it, that it seems that i’m going to die now, how it feels in the body, or what in general, how in the body, well, this feeling, there is such an expression like... it disappears from under your feet, it such a banal thing, but it reflects very much in principle, that is, it seems that you have no strength at all in your legs, that you have some kind of cold here and that that's it, now you're going to fall and die, something like that, well , that is, some kind of such a feeling, it's clear that you won't die, that is, i'm saying, this rational part, it's like calm, everything is normal, that's it, but the sensations are like that, well, this loneliness is still such an intellectual construction, because inside it and no one needs me, that's it this meaninglessness, and disrespect for me, and

my unimportance, that is, all this actually gives rise to the idea of ​​loneliness, and in essence loneliness is just me alone, there is no one, yes, well, that's it, you are alone, and there is no one, you just need to remove all these strange speculations from there, because they cannot even be called meanings, convictions, there will be only one thing left, this pure loneliness that needs to be experienced. in general, a value that cannot be underestimated, overestimated, or rather, pardon me, because, ah, this is that loneliness, with which we come and with which we leave, it never goes away, it is a very pleasant unity, i also became one with it, i encounter it, well, that is, that in this loneliness you cope with some challenges that happen to you, that is , it turns out yes, if so, let's say, in some period of time there , i don't know, for example, well, a person... well, for example , he leaves for 3 days, well, if we are talking about this, then the first day i feel bad, i

am really sick, something like that, then everything, well, it is already normal, the third is already completely everything is fine, without coming, everything is good, that is, it happens like this, just and i say, i understand very clearly in my head that this is great and i feel very good, but also as a mother of two children, i really want to be alone without anyone, including my husband, that's it. but at that moment for some reason, well, i now understand why, i saw it, why, that it's just somehow he seems to rip you open, he returns you there to that intensive care unit, where you are alone, but as we have already found out, you cope, you are very tenacious, very tenacious, well, in general it becomes clear yes, first of all, fear is always a good indicator that you are alive, i am alive, everything is fine, yes, secondly, switch your attention to what your partner is feeling now too. not the most positive emotions, and thirdly - tear out the focus of yours, the spear of your

attention, tear it out of this expectation, that is, make this expectation, and a very conscious action in order to see its absoluteness, i realized, this is very, this is very, this is very strong, thank you, thank you, thank you very much, well i - it's just that the puzzles are coming together a little for me, in general, what you were saying now. and i, for example, also remembered a painful situation for me, there was a period of time when i did not communicate with my dad, we did not talk for 4 years and i now remembered that in general, in the case when it was hard for me there as a child, i was sick, well, not in intensive care, i mean at home, for example, something happened, the person who was always there, dad, always, he just canceled all his business, at that moment was, it was not often, well, i mean i do not often. well, more a situation when he dropped everything, there cooked for me this chicken soup, here i was

, let's say, and this is how love is expressed for you, well, including, yes, of course, well, and need, yes, and necessity, and why didn't you talk to dad for 4 years, eh, this is generally a big, long story, also absurd, my parents separated, and this in well somehow somehow influenced them on... both of them, well, how old were you ever 25, that is, it was no, and you didn't talk to dad after twenty-five, yes it was it was yes and he about well i think that he experienced this breakup in his own way, and i apparently he also somehow experienced this breakup and my mother there, well, in general - it's just that at some point he, well, i think that he just decided to be alone, so there were some attempts to... to get in touch with him, but they were not successful,

yes, they were successful, plus it was the period when i moved to moscow, that is, it was only 4 years ago, and he remained in my hometown in chelyabinsk, so we did not see each other, that is , we began to communicate normally, restored relations, when i arrived there, when i met him in person, we we talked to him somehow, something happened there. well, some kind of chemistry, i don’t know, in a good way, now we maintain a very warm, good relationship, well, that is, essentially, dad just needed to be alone, yes, i think so, something was happening to him and you don’t know, but these 4 years. i understand that they were n’t very good for you either, they were very painful for me, very much, i also tried and went to some kind of constellations, i tried something with this somehow and with a coach we tried to sort this out and, as it were, rationally you understand everything, that it is , let's say, a person's choice to communicate with you or not, but inside, as if i wanted, well, as a child, like a dad, and what did i do there

, well, like, everything was already fine , well, that is, if you knew that dad went, for example , on a round-the-world voyage. then it would not be so difficult, of course, no, internally, that not a single coach offered you to send dad on a round-the-world voyage? no, into space, no, i have the only idea that was offered, that i suffer from an illusion, well, like, that i don’t know what kind of love he really has there and whether he’s waiting for me, let’s say, now at all, i don’t know what’s happening to him, i have some kind of picture from my childhood that my dad loves me, but now this is not there, and i suffer from some kind of illusion, this. which was and i think, well , probably, maybe that’s how it is, i decided to break this illusion, to meet him in person, actually this helped me in the end, that is, the personal meeting, it somehow put everything in its place, and when dad left this, well, solo sailing, and he somehow told you that now is such a period when i need, no, he was just

offended, at you, at you, yes, at me personally, because i did not congratulate him on february 23. yeah, that is, everything was fine, good, everything was perfect, then you did not like it, i was in another country at that moment, well, in general, and well , i think, there, probably, a lot is possible that yes , really a lot, because it is obvious that at that moment he was worried, it seemed to him that you thus took the position of a mother there, there is no point in inventing things now, yes, dad has probably already told you everything, well, okay, he was offended, he was offended, but instead of sending his inner self on this voyage, for some reason you suffered about the fact that dad doesn’t talk to you, and this is also an important moment, because we are talking now, but the viewers who are watching us, they are discovering for themselves, and about themselves , something new, because, for example, about making the wait meaningful actions and believe me, you won’t last more than 15 minutes, yes, i think it will help now a huge number of people who suffer

when they are waiting for someone who, for example, is late, well, in this context, when we talk about dad, it's the same thing, i know that it's really not easy, not easy, when a person suddenly, once, takes and breaks off contact, at that moment you start thinking what i did wrong, what happened to me, why, how could he, because of what, do i really deserve such an attitude, yes, but all this is pointless, because the person simply does not communicate, well, you can do it like you did in in the end, they took it, came back 4 years later and talked, it’s also a pity that it wasn’t earlier, yes, yes, well, it was the podcast lab triggers. and its host tatyana krasnovskaya and sergey nasebyan, we talked with tatyana about how to make the process of waiting a conscious activity, and how, in general, to cope with the fear that we experience in moments when our loved ones cannot be next to us, because we want it so much. you

can watch all the episodes of the podcast triggers on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. and if you are interested in sorting out your situation or solve some of your own. question with us in this studio, you can fill out the questionnaire, which you will find on the website 1tv.ru. hello, this is the psyche podcast, in which we continue to deal with the most typical, the most... the most vivid requests of our viewers, but today we will experiment with the format and analyze three fairly popular requests with which people come to psychologists, with two psychologists at once, but without heroes, and these two psychologists represent different approaches, different concepts, we will

to some extent, let's contrast and discuss what strategies can be. it is clear that there is more than one, maybe even more than two. today in our podcast , we have arthur timofeev, a clinical psychologist, phd in psychology, who is already known to our viewers. hello, arthur. hello everyone. and daria pankratova, an analytical psychologist. i would like to ask my colleagues today to present those areas that are not the only ones for them, but as i understand it, some of their favorites, yes. arthur will speak from the position of cognitive behavior. psychology it began quite a long time ago, and takes its origins, well, rather, from, probably, even the works of pavlov, yes

, our well-known, brilliant physiologist, at least he had two discoveries that were key to cognitive psychology, he proved the structure of the conditioned reflex, yes, in these merciless experiments with dogs, remember, not only, but also, by the way, as far as i remember, pavlov... was quite humanistic and he treated experiments with dogs, rather as a necessary evil. in addition, i would i wanted to say that pavlov did another very important thing, and he discovered such a thing as the second signal system, that is, our speech, and what is the first? here is the first, for example, our sensation, and he discovered that due to the second signal system, you can interact with the first, that is, with... words influence feelings influence our sensations, well, for example, if we talk about the experience of anxiety, these are sensations, but due to words we can influence how a person

feels, what kind of anxiety he experiences or how it passes, then behavioral therapy, it developed in the works of ae western colleagues, and behaviorism arose earlier, that is, this trend that studies precisely... the behavior of not only humans, but also animals. and somewhere in the fifties, sixties of the last century, behaviorism merged with cognitive psychologists, with cognitive models. and some kind of fusion began to form, cognitive-behavioral therapy. now we are already talking about such a more advanced, yes humanistic version of cognitive-behavioral therapy, which takes into account, probably, and some human experiences. no, no, no, naturally, the model is much more complex now than it was then, and nevertheless, there is some common ground, for example, the idea that

through cognitions, that is, through our thoughts, which are expressed in words, and you can influence emotions and you can correct your own behavior, do i understand correctly that you work only with consciousness, yes, naturally, in this case. the psychologist acts rather as a kind of guide yes or a trainer, if you like, for the client, who allows the client to learn yes some or more adaptive behavior strategies, or a more reasonable way of thinking, yes, because when faced with some stressful situation, a person can start thinking that, oh my god, what a horror, i can’t cope with this, i don’t know what to do and... he’s afraid of flying, for example, this is yours, your typical situation, it seems to me, i mean for - psychologists who work, aerophobia is one of the most

typical, and you simply teach the client not to think about anything, but simply not to be afraid, that’s at the level some reflexes, to the level of some reactions, partly yes, rather reworking and those anxious thoughts that visit the client during boarding the plane, during the flight, into thoughts. healthier, more reasonable character and naturally, this reduces anxiety if the client has learned to follow these thoughts and if he has learned to concentrate on them. okay, and now let's see what psychological analysts or analytical psychologists tell us about this and in this case daria represents the jung school, which still different from for example too. what are the main positions of your direction, what do you stand on? jung's analytical psychology,

here it is, here is his photo, and this is a deep psychological approach, yes school, psychotherapeutic model, and it takes its stocks, in the twenty-second year jung here presented it yes as a model. after his such a protracted professional crisis on the one hand, on the other hand - a very productive creative period, where he actually created it, and you mentioned freud, it all began after their break in the fourteenth year, and he, well, that is, created his own direction, while still basing some things, of course, on the concept of psychoanalysis, and... and analytical psychology is a psychodynamic approach, that is, an approach that mm looks at the psyche as something that develops dynamically, and this approach

will be interested in hidden motives, hidden conflicts, childhood traumas, this is also yes, but in general, what happens at a deep unconscious level, and this is a personality model, according to jung, but one of the options for depicting, he, in fact, has a personality it is divided, to put it simply, into three parts, personal - everything that concerns the personality and his consciousness, yes.

some kind of world of some kind of pitch black, some kind of pitch black mystery, yeah, yeah, actually, this is the conscious personal, then comes the unconscious personal, and after that there is the collective unconscious, in fact , three such yes parts, and the shadow, this is a construct, of the personality, which, you know, is on the border of the personal unconscious and the collective unconscious, everything that is under it, this is the same collective unconscious, which jung, well - how to say, opened, suggested, yes, to work with this, with this concept, freud worked up to the personal unconscious, that 's where their breakup happened, and now a person comes to you who couldn't get through to arthur, yeah, and says, you have to fly tomorrow

at...

period, for example, even during pregnancy, yes, when he was in his mother's womb, yes, yes, when for example, i don't know, my mother was going through some very strong stress, she had experiences in general, well, yes, on the verge of life and death, her feelings, yes, that is, for her it is it was like that, or, perhaps, a very traumatic birth, well, that is, in a deep approach we would look, well, that is, we would diagnose how a person defends himself, yes, what kind of defense method is this, uh, in psychodynamic approaches there is a system of seven basic defense mechanisms, psychoanalysis calls this character, in analytical psychology it is called complexes, this is like a way to defend oneself from unpleasant experiences, in the case of phobias, well, there always comes the question of fear. yes, to

such a basic fear, this is a certain this type, this character complex, with which we would already work, well, you don’t go so deep, you don’t work for 3 years, you, well, i don’t know how short-term cognitive therapy is - this is one of the fastest therapies in terms of implementation, by and large, in many ways now, when we try to achieve effectiveness in working with a client, we are forced to use synthetically...

they turn to the client’s past quite well, but it is cognitive behavioral therapy, it works according to the classics, it works mainly in the sphere of the present, but still about a... what thoughts and feelings arise now, and let's say, yes, we worked on the topic of flights and it disappeared, but the topic of snakes arose, that is, i was not afraid of snakes, you worked, then, with me with aerophobia, i come and say: arthur, and now i'm afraid of snakes, after some time, for example, like this, when the phobia has spread from one object to another, and you know why i'm afraid of snakes, and because i was walking, for example, at the dacha along a path, and a snake crawled by, if we have such a situation, yes, it is more likely it will still be local, and i would not consider it within the framework of something systemic, that is, aerophobia, which has flowed into a phobia of snakes, and if a person was rather not afraid of, well, let's say, spiders before, and now suddenly began

to be afraid of spiders, after his aerophobia passed, of course, and no spider bit him in exotic countries, and did not spit poison, then we say that okay, is this something? systemic, there is some kind of fear that flows, and in cognitive behavioral therapy this would be rather not a local way of thinking, but some general concept about how a person thinks, and also about how he perceives some threat in his life, and i would, for example, deepen and concretize the topic, ask, okay, you are afraid of snakes and what then, yes, well... what exactly scares you? this is a psyche podcast, and today with our psychologists we are talking about different methods of psychotherapy. as in solving a specific problem of an ordinary modern person, all this

is applied. what arthur says is more or less clear to me, yes, as you do you use this knowledge, this system of knowledge in order to help your client? well, depending on the task, yes, because the same hume. what did he say, he said that when a person comes to analysis, you work as his shadow for 3 years, and he says, until you process the shadow, no special archetypes for you, well, that is, only in the attention of the therapist, perhaps, here - that is, you need to figure it out, integrate, he called it integrating your shadow, that is, your unconscious personal yes parts, then, for example, you can deepen the client there, if there is - well, there is a request.

and yes, there really are concepts, yes, which, cross-cultural studies have shown, are common, well, for example, the image of a wheel, the concept of a wheel as something round, as a symbol, yes, well, like some symbols, yes,

this is really something that exists in all modern cultures, even among the papuans, you know what, let's move on to life, okay, because it is very beautiful, very interesting, fascinating, we are talking about... the cultural part, but we will try to apply your approaches, of course, and i would like you to show each of you the best, yes or the most vivid of your approaches to a specific situation, the situation is not simple, and many will recognize, middle-aged people will recognize themselves in this situation, let's discuss it: a young man is 40 years old, married, has a good job, and nothing makes him happy.

like a dead end: i go in circles, and i'm at a dead end, it irritates me that i do the same thing, it irritates me that i feel like i have to, that i'm not confident in myself, and it's hard for me to get close to people, to my wife, i often feel guilty, yes, that is, the key words for us what, that a dead end, i feel guilty, there is no joy in life, as a circumstance, childlessness, request.

for example, that is, true guilt is really when the problem is within our area of ​​responsibility, we took this responsibility on ourselves and we , unfortunately, did not cope with this responsibility, then yes, then, for example, there was a promotion at work, you seemed to want it, because more money, and a good position, you will have your own office, and then you understand that you can't handle, for example, taking a step back it's already very difficult psychologically, you start to feel guilty about... that you can't cope, yeah, yeah, then a psychologist

can really make this situation crystal clear, give the person options, for example, well, that is, he can stay within the framework of this position, but then it will be some kind of conscious sacrifice, and what will he sacrifice then, if he wants to, he will have to either work more, yes, for example, that is , some part. of his personal life he will have to sacrifice in order to stay in this position, or maybe it is possible to lead him to the idea that leave, for example, as an option, go back, psychologists rather give different options , they look at what is inside the person’s value system, his beliefs, if his beliefs rather say that it is important for him to stay in this position, because some of his deep things touch him, and deep, i mean beliefs. there, for example, is the self-esteem level, and maybe even the level

of meaning, yes, there, i work, because this work, there is for me, super-necessary, significant, i feel that i am in my place, i i feel that i, well, for example, make the world a better place, being at this job, and if i earn money to support, to support parents or children, this can also be a meaning, okay, here you are, your task is to get to the bottom of it, and to what is happening with this hero of ours here now, to understand what simple visual meanings he might have in a month, in a year? here are rather some crystallized ones that are characteristic of him as a person, and despite the fact that this will manifest itself in the actual field, that is, here now, this still, some more stable, more crystallized structures that are personal, and tell me some techniques like...

we use these thoughts and as well as some

field for searching for problems, for concretizing these problems, and we will solve the problems themselves in a dialogue within the session, well, for example, reformulate his and beliefs, if we find well, his thoughts, i don’t i don’t have time again, what is your task to reformulate this thought into, if this thought i don’t have time, then in itself it is not very destructive.

driven, in some comfort, for example, because if he is not driven, is in comfort, then he comes home, not driven, but alive, and he can give more love, more comfort, more warm, pleasant feelings to his loved ones, and this is also very

important, all this is here now, and naturally, we work within the current experiences, quite short terms, and quite short. terms daria, uh-huh, uh-huh, our client, let me remind you, yes, uh-huh, feels guilty, seeks the meaning of life, not finding it, does not find it, runs in a circle, even more drives himself into such an unpleasant state, realizing that he is running in circles, and is burdened by the absence of a child, yeah, well, this is the ideal client - a jungian analyst or an analytical psychologist, yes, i'll explain why, he is 40 years old. this is a midlife crisis, jung, among other things, one of his famous ideas is that he divided life into two halves, the first half of life the second half of life, and if i say it simply, he said, well, to translate this into simple language, then the first half of life is in order to to get confused, the second half of life in order to get unraveled, yes, and a person

actually stands between exactly, you know , on the border, that is, the first thing you say is expensive - this is normal. exactly like that, plus this is of course a personal such a personal deep crisis psychologically , it is analytical psychology that works a lot with this in fact because jung created his analytical psychology in a personal crisis when when he got somewhere around 40 years old, so well, what would i work with with his personal crisis of meaning, a crisis in him he calls it meaning himself i would show him well i would demonstrate this idea about that... in order to get confused, now is a great time to unravel, i would show him the perspective, because it is very important for him to show this perspective, he does not see it, and also i would show him with certain interventions that his request for internal meaning, and he is looking for it for himself, but transfers it to some

external objects, to work, yes, a child who did not happen, i would pull this meaning out of the child, yes, conditionally, and transfer it would be a person inside, but i would offer him to see it too, of course i would collect his anamnesis, yes, that is, what is his early childhood history, what happened in his life, and what defenses does he have, yes, and what actually protects him from such a deep movement towards himself, and would make them more flexible, yes in the process, that is, you could discover something, so to speak? in his early childhood at the age of 3 or 5 years, what gave sprouts, laid sprouts these grains under the snow of life, yes, which then by the age of 40 suddenly sprouted, when it was not very i wanted to, but they got through, well, it would help me to see his situation as a whole,

what kind of person he is, actually to understand his sense of guilt, that there would still be good there. what could be his strong point, for example, you said that the ideal client, then you probably have such clients, for example, i don’t know, guilt, to yourself, most likely

this is a responsible, well, let’s assume, yes, we diagnosed him, this is a person with an increased sense of responsibility, duty, accordingly empathy, probably the ability to share the feelings of others on in fact, to understand yours, yes, and this... well, i would also follow his values, most likely this is in the areola of his values, but at the same time it is difficult for him to say no, yes , to defend his boundaries, and he takes on too much of himself, yes, we would also work with this, this is a psyche podcast, watch all the episodes on the website of the first channel, let's give examples when you would still send a client.

obviously, and sometimes i do this, that is, i say that you need to remove this level and

just cognitive-behavioral therapy, she copes with it perfectly, well, i would rather add that within the framework of cognitive concepts, other approaches cope with it, for example, imdr is also part of the cognitive galaxy, yes, cognitive therapies, and this is the method that works with phobias perfectly, yeah. here 's an example, also one of the most frequent requests, since we are talking about adults, when an adult comes, well, let's say it's a woman, yeah, and says that she still can't separate, separate from her parents, she still depends on mom's opinion, on dad's assessment, does not feel independent, feels guilty, let's be very brief in your approaches. but here there is a question of separation, she calls it herself, yes, that is, with what would i, well, let's say, she has already realized that her attachment to her parents,

it is already unhealthy, it has nothing to do with respect, with love, and this is something else, yes, well, in fact, she realized it, but it did not happen, this is also an archetypal plot for psychodynamic approaches, you know how, i don’t remember who said it, but in general the phrase sounds like this: in order to find yourself, you need to find a good-bad mother inside yourself, a good-bad father, find a good-bad self, then you have some kind of split personality, dispersion, i would say personality, splitting - this is when mom is only bad or dad is only good, or i am only bad, in general , to collect this complete picture, and for this, for this you need to go to this experience accordingly. which, well, did not give a person to separate there is something that means to go something yes something something happened there, but

again we collect.