he reads, says, well, this is generally, how is it, i seem to be dima, you write, dumas hiktipop, ivanov would be, you know, my friends then izvalipop, you know, i remember you had a song like that , a little bit danceable, that is, it was like, this is love gone, we did it, we did a dance version of this song with djs mayevsky, i remember that you called your style a new guitar style, well , we called it new guitar music, new guitar music, yes, exactly, exactly, that is, i remember, at that time it really was very-very fresh, cool, but still relevant, we needed to stand out somehow, when i was young, we needed to organize our own field, there was rock, there was pop, but there was no guitar music, well , consider it... but you, as a person who

always looks a little into the future, what next? so we will continue and we will wait until the young ones grow up again, well, the same thing or in some direction there, well, we are currently writing new material, in what style it will be, i don’t know, you say in what style it is, folk, well, i think that it is it's not even predictable yet, but completely, no, it will definitely be a lead fog, but just already at 20. we tried not only talented and djs djs also tried the scene we tried producers and tried to implement firmware don't you want to add more electronics there the musician's music still takes over, we need to play everything live, if we can do it we need to play live, but we are not afraid of experiments, we are looking, at least we will have a new song moscow. that's what it's called, yeah, here it is,

we'll see, just in time you'll hear it, just in time, it's there will be such a thing, sventsov fog, twenty -fourth year, in the spring in the spring, girls, everyone will be, what i dreamed about 20 years ago, oh, it's hard to say, i don't know what the guys dreamed about, i just lived and enjoyed the fact that we could do something and write music and play in clubs, it was a blast, well, that is , there were no stadium ambitions, no world tours, no, i didn't have that, although... you know, i'm saying, there were no ambitions, you can't imagine, i once came to london to sign an album in russian, i told them tried to sell out and sign a contract with them, you say ambition, is it ambition or not ambition, it's probably a little crazy, it's crazy, but the fact remains, you don't have a good schizophrenia , which, as i understand it, opened the doors for you, i was sure, i did what i was sure of, i was interested in whether they were waiting for me or not, yes, that's for sure, regarding the videos, you took part in the development of the scripts, you know, no, that's all.

bad, hematomas, constant hematomas, i even had jeans with leather pads from the inside, that somehow i can't twist my leg at all, i stopped, we even sent him to the drum department, yes, the guys say, it's time for you to improve your qualifications, yes, the department is bu, they are professionals, you understand, they came and said, oh, dima, dima, it's time to go to the department, the sixteenth is limping, yes, and what about the fact that the drum didn't bring the court, well , i can't anymore, an allergy, a bruise forms by itself by ... do you have drum phobia? i know

that you are now helping young musicians, mentoring, in some form, you have something like a production center, well , firstly, there are both the guys and me and we all try at least somehow, if we see talented people, they don’t particularly shine with finances, we still try to help them with

something, somehow produce, we need to help a lot, even make arrangements, because the guys sometimes, that is, you directly sponsor, well, i just come to the rehearsal base with them, sit and... the world just turned out to be unproduced or something? well, it’s terrible, because in fact everything is produced, in fact, as soon as the artist starts to appear somewhere , his songs take off, he gets it. a circle of people and who try to help him, and want to earn money, well, they want to earn money, they start to help him, yes, they start to help him, to say that a person posted something on the internet, became popular and after that he does all this alone, it's not true, you listen, well, he alicha went viral with his guitar, he did everything himself, well, yes, well, yes, but where did he go then, that everything exists normally, great, he writes music for films, for plays, he writes music for films, you understand, and... he still has scenes, yes, you have them too collaboration with cinema you wrote a song i know it was included in the film yes but for us it was rather different for us our songs were just included in soundtracks and what are you planning to write something for cinema in the future or i don’t know you know i still like this format for me the one i do guys yes they manage to

write everything for cinema and for performances and for everything but i still like this band give me a band so that forward you like the club format more chamber i like it although you know. we played in the big ones in the olympic there 15,000 screamed i know that day in luzhniki 50,000 and nothing, but this is some kind of different atmosphere, i like clubs, personally for me. grisha, sasha, and you write music for movies, well, they don’t write anything anymore, yes , we used to do other things, now we just relax, i just want to be music, musicians, and now such a time has come that some kind of freedom has appeared. in a word, just self-sufficient, yes, self-sufficient people, and i want to do only music, play with dima and nesterov, we really like it, we have, by the way, some kind of chemistry happens between us, we always have some kind of creative symbiosis, and we always do it very easily, you know, here we start to live, we do it very easily, no one

ever argues, no one ever hangs, not at all nothing, in general just like that, and we have completely different points of view, we look from different sides, but in one direction, it's very interesting, just a dream, and don't even talk about it. i'm afraid to spill the soup, we don't like it, really, we like to do it, because here at least at least everything is real, no one is in a hurry and does not think about commerce, what is needed tomorrow, this radio will not take this probably no, we do not think about the format at all, just honestly for real and so it is necessary to create, but you know you will not run around enough in our time it seems to me only this way now somehow at the beginning you thought about that, so now i will write a song, it will be taken by the rada. in the new season on the first, your collective farm is good, and you will try to make it rich, a millionaire, and you have hardly aged, it is difficult, probably with the lack of habit

it will be in the village, we'll get used to it, but in our village your hanky-panky can end badly, vadim, partork, are you sure, he 's a womanizer, my valinka and i... almost broke up right before the wedding because of him, and if i fall in love with you again, it's yours, do with it as you please, throw it away if you want, wear it if you want, hide it if you want, he pestered you again yesterday, don't disgrace the family, kirill, i want to give you some advice, as an experienced womanizer, don't pester a woman if she doesn't want it herself, you're ruining your life and hers, what's wrong with you will happen now, that they will push, these are not simple words, if necessary, i will kill, i would not throw such words around, if you kick, i will put you in jail. for what, we will always find a reason, i will not survive if you cheat on me, i can not live without you, premiere, from monday on the first, i can not live without you, i will wait, sakhalin,

decided to have a cultural rest were inspired by the works of anton pavlych, so roma walked in the cherry orchard, karen took off three sisters. eh, andrey ate some tea, that's it. kvn. summer cup. on the last day of summer on the first. i met one girl. i invited her to go for a walk with me, but because of the weather i couldn't rush to her. the wind knows where to look for me. this is a podcast 20 years later, we are talking with the group svintsovy tuman, i am the host konstantin mikhailov, how do you like to spend your free time, what do you like to do most besides creativity or creativity? oh, i don't know, i am engaged in creativity, yes, i also do some musical projects, such as those related to the performance

of other people there of something, that is, i like to organize some festivals, something else to do something like that, i like it, that is , an organizer, well, yes, i have such a streak. i like it, for everything to move around, and you guys, how do you spend your free time, what do you like? we practically don’t have our own, with which yes, and if it appears, then we hurry too, just like... but the fact that the need for this has appeared, this is definitely now, now the young generation is faced with the fact that - for example,

well, we are already tired of virtual guitars, tired of virtual drums, then everything starts to turn to yes, like to dads, brothers and so on and so on and so forth, i have a son, a young producer, he is always a dad, so we need to record a guitar for young performers, now there is a fashion for such a sound again, literally a couple of years ago a solo was just. luxury, luxury, yes, no one did this, they always cut it out, just a guitar, what are you playing on the guitar, only a loser would play the guitar, now, of course, i put it together from electronic cubes, everything is awesome, now no, but i have to endure it from beginning to end, i came back, the interest returned, including young bloggers, also drums, even in general it's just always, uncle sasha, write down the drums for me, please, yeah, well? and how to distinguish drums and guitars from artificial intelligence from the living there

is also hearing no can't distinguish i think with style most likely the style of energy that is a little wrong somewhere a little out of tune about the living no each musician has his own style, when here and if three yes even three musicians if they got together each has his own style got together such a triangle symbiosis this is in in principle, that's what's expensive and worth what you dream about in 20 years, what are you saying? listen, well, the most important thing is that everything is good with us and that the country is in order, i think about it, in 20 years i want everything to be, that we develop, move forward, we have big, that is, no goal, here is this cube, you know, like in the strugatskys, here is this room or ball, it hears, it fulfills a wish, wish for something and there will be kostya, i 'm telling you seriously, i want more positivity, i live happily, i have something remember in a day, i move a lot, i do a lot of things, i want to continue to move the space of some big achievements in this way, well of course i want

to release an album, play more concerts , travel around the country, i want to play, but everything will come, everything will be, and you guys, what would you like in 20 years, yes, in 20 years, for example , i would like everyone, all people, humanity to have their own home, a roof over their heads, health and everything, so that everyone lives beautifully by the sea. music, and you know what i would like, i would also like in 20 years, also to meet, sit and talk about music, so that in 20 years 20 years later, what does it mean for that yes, yes, that is, you understand, so that i want to stand on stage in 20 years and so that the program by the way, and to give people joy, i know, so to speak, that day will come, but the song has survived everything, of course, it will survive, i assure you, it will, it has already gone into the classics, and from the classics that you listened to, here you guys?

learned to turn the knobs, yeah, no one is needed, a mini-disc appeared, like in a restaurant, everything was leveled out, like in a restaurant, all the musicians we parted ways, there was a minisk or a computer left, well, something should fire again now, it seems to me, now everything that is happening, everything is going to the same thing again, although they say that the ring roads there do not lead anywhere, they lead, that it will be, i want to make a song for now at least a song, well, somehow so that it would be relevant for the modern, for me modern, for modern guys, you know, well, for sure, they will definitely remain. guitars, drums and bass guitars, everything that is alive, this will definitely remain, i think, it will remain for centuries to come, it will go nowhere

it won't go away, because it's classic, by the way, i personally don't need music without guitars, without drums, without bass, without such a live live presentation, it's an orchestra for me, it's a different story, to be honest, we need to bring back the industry, when everyone lives with each other, exchanges, and lives in one community, in one society, but anyway , everyone, anyway, everyone will return to the living, because people can't live without the living. love never leaves the podcast, 20 years later, yes, it's always here, and the coolest musicians of the group lead fog are always here, today as a guest of the podcast 20 years later,

as... yes, it comes to us, sadness like black dreams, clouds the sight, a gloomy haze begins to fall, do not rush to argue with it, it will go away, like a guest from the underground will return again, forever to the bottom of the soul. again a tear is filled with bitterness loss sadness of unfulfilled hopes torment the shadow of the days lived, i rapture in

dreams i seek your image there, only you, only you alone, but only... only a dream, the soul screams forever, the soul screams, forever, love is gone, we are left, sadness, love is gone, it cannot be returned, no matter how sorry, but you wake up, open eyes, yeah, but wake up and the sadness will go away forever, love is gone, dreams remain sadness, love is gone, it can't be brought back, no matter how sad, but

wake up, open your eyes, this, but wake up and the sadness will go away forever, love is gone, love is gone, love is gone , pa-ba, pa-ba!

greetings, friends, this is a podcast of the chronicle of the end of times. and i, evgeny dodolev, will tell you today about jeans. jeans, don't confuse them with jeans, these are materials in the press that, uh, are like advertising, because money was paid for them, but they don't look like advertising, and they are not advertising, the main thing for the publisher, because this money is taken either

by some employee of the publication, or simply by the journalists who prepared the material, or by the journalists who released the material. i started working in the media, that is, in the press in the mid-eighties, you won’t believe it, but then there was no advertising at all, neither on television, nor in newspapers, but jeans already existed, that is, there was no official advertising, but there was already unofficial advertising, in the newspaper in which this youth publication, very popular, moscow, salaries were very... small, i already talked about this, but i will repeat, i received what is called a half-time salary, the salary was 130 rubles, but in a youth publication, in which...

in a newspaper, i don’t know how it is now, then these were the functions of the person who signed the newspaper for publication, as they say, that is, put

his signature, after that the newspaper went to the printing house, was printed, and a few hours later cars were already delivering it all over moscow to kiosks, the printing union to subscribers, to post offices, so why? it was assumed that the responsible members editorial board, and i headed the department of students and youth in this newspaper, and he rests all day, fresh, arrives in the evening for the issue, when the pages are already laid out, he proofreads these pages, and since he is fresh , he finds these or those jambs with a fresh, unclouded eye, and he reads straight from start to finish, from the masthead to... the last signature, everything, including the imprint, uh, he checks everything, everything, everything, everything, but actually, i don’t know about the rest

of my colleagues, i just don’t remember it, but uh, i never had the patience to sit there all day at home there to relax, i don't know what to meditate, what to do, no, just uh, well okay, it was the eighties, that is, journalists were all drinking, that is , i arrived somewhere in the middle...

the head of one of the popular then in the mid-eighties bands, so, he brought balyk cognac, to dima so that his group in the hit parade moved up a couple of positions. the first five, everything was honest, the first five did not sell at all, that is, all this was done according to letters from readers, according to letters not electronic, naturally there was no internet, no email. paper letters just stupidly arrived with a note that this was for this section, people opened envelopes, took them, counted the letters, all of this

was manually entered somewhere, everything was counted, that's how it was, that is, the first five were not sold, here are sixth, seventh, eighth, that is, from ninth place to sixth you could move, that is, in principle, i repeat, everything was quite honest, and dima strictly said, yura, we have a lot of girls working here. with parades there was such a story: i was 5 years ago in the nineteenth year - i was working on a book for the anniversary - of a very famous soviet

rock band and i... recorded interviews with musicians, naturally, with journalists who wrote about music, including dmitry shavrin, and he, in particular, in his interview, which was included in this book published, said that our legendary composer pakhmutova in yakov wrote denunciations to the central committee of the cpsu, that is, the highest governing body, for those who are in the tank, i explain,

with a passage from shavirin about the denunciations that she wrote pakhmutov, he called me in a rage, well, how he loved there with the swear words, that is, he was a virtuoso in using foul language, uh, at first he attacked me, i say: "sasha, well, you, you understand that this is direct speech, that so to speak, i am kind of talking to a person, if a person needs to say something, then i am generally categorically against cuts and censorship, i can either refuse a person at all, in principle, no, you won't be there. there in this book, for example, but if i agree, then i can only correct some turns of phrase unsuccessful there, having agreed naturally with the person who spoke, because he has to put a visa, that yes, here in this final form his text goes, but to throw something out there, even what puzzles me, seems to me untrue or strange, i can’t, the responsibility is still on him, he was an authority in this industry, i won’t name the critics, but the observer. so

sasha asked me for shavirin’s phone number, said, here and yura, meaning yurievich, one shpitsa, has already punched him in the face, now it’s my turn, not i know how their conversations ended, the showdown, sasha categorically excluded such a possibility, that he would write a denunciation, by the way, it seems to me, well, some kind of wildness, perhaps myself.

about what it means, it was a denunciation, in short, here jeans in such a form, was present, then the market rose, market relations came to us, including in the media, and it was not just the windows and overton vents that opened, but the gates simply swung open, that is, they began to bring in immeasurable amounts of money to journalists, because simply in fact, there was a paradoxical situation in these last years of the soviet union's ogonia, when journalists did not receive money, but at the same time had a very significant influence, that is, they were, in fact , the fourth estate, because this inertia, not at all trust in the press, but the understanding that this word, if it is printed on a newspaper page, then this is some kind of ultimate truth

. this is the word of power, this is a podcast of the chronicle and the end of times, and i, evgeny dodolev, am telling you about such a media phenomenon as jeans, a lot of people, we ourselves, without wanting it , journalist, well, i'm just speaking for myself, were deprived of jobs, some positions, i remember how my friend and i went during the winter... their holidays to some boarding house, something was wrong there, either they gave us the wrong room, or they didn't check us in at all, or they somehow didn't react to these things, and this was the mid-eighties, that is , this is the legachev-gorbachev campaign to combat alcoholism, when they cut down vineyards, when there were monstrous lines in the wine departments, they were fighting the real scum

with the essence. ours, that is, they forbade drinking, journalists worked on this matter, without stopping drinking, in general, in short, we published it with him, having returned from... i don’t remember the name of the boarding house, but it’s not important, from the moscow region, there was some kind of raid, like a raid, from this raid we returned this article, this report about how in the boarding house, you won’t believe it, students drink, oh, it’s funny and a sin, yes, and... this boarding house was on the balance sheet of the ministry of foreign trade and eh, i don’t remember what day of the week this article came out, but a weekend later there was a resolution that two

deputy ministers were removed, and komsomol mgemo lost his post, because there were mainly students of gemo, and kom-40 of some course, many people suffered for many years. later, at some party, i crossed paths with umar dzhebrailov, a very famous businessman, a chechen entrepreneur, and he said with a grin that he, too, was some kind of komsomol leader in gemo there and he, too , suffered because of the article, i didn’t mean that , it’s just that, well, well, we went our we fulfilled our journalistic duty, i'm not proud of it. in short, i'm just describing the situation, how weighty the word was, i repeat, they didn't officially pay for these words, but people like, well, the same dzhebrailov, that is, future oligarchs,

businessmen, they already clearly understood for themselves the power of this printed word and knew that in general journalists can be bought inexpensively, and they bought them, that is, these... articles came out - the prices really went up very quickly, literally, this was a period of 2-3 years before official advertising appeared with these advertising modules with jeans already like this, which went through the advertising department, that is , the material did not look like advertising, that is , without any details, but in fact it performed the functionality of this or that promotion, and that is, these prices rose very quickly, including the synchronously rose prices for the services of the sell-out magazines, that is, the people who practiced the placement of these materials, i am not saying here that i am so

honest, incorruptible, i just do not know how would i have done it if i had been offered money, i wasn't offered it, i don't know why, but i just heard from one person to another. there, there, once , a car was driven up to a person, i thought, like, somewhere , somewhere very close, in general, in short, like , somehow, somehow i was unlucky, that's why in this aspect i remained an honest journalist, although you know, opportunities give rise to intentions, it's just that there was no temptation, that is, either demons...

journalistic materials, well, it's just significantly, well, why, because on the over them, if i don’t know, some bank or some oligarch worked there, well, there was a whole team collecting the invoice, professional people wrote, that is, it was a very high-quality product that the magazine decorated, i remember such an episode, i invited my friend mikhail vladimirovich leontiv to work with me, he combined this with his television work and... was the editor-in-chief of the magazine, and i was, well , like the publishing director of this entire publishing house, which i was a part of, and so he often came and said, you know, i need to here they offer money, such and such, well

, it was always decent money, that is, it was always thousands of dollars there from five to 25, and i like the material, i will put it where to send a person, and well, i sent this money to the financial director there. that's how it would be cashed in 2008, mikhail vladimirovich and i went to kiev to launch a franchise of our publication there, we published. here in moscow under the license of a german weekly , a russian-language version, our kiev acquaintances said that they want to publish it there on ukraine, so we went to launch this publication, and of course i was shocked how completely different things were there, because my friends and colleagues were very offended when we said that well, we...

now i'm moving on to the most interesting thing, in my opinion, in this conversation with jeans about the covers, so, the covers have always been expensive, i came up with this thing in the publishing house, since there were several publications, one magazine was advertised in others, well, what's coming out there, another one, i don't i know the june issue of this magazine and the ads were in all the other magazines, so

the person who ended up on the cover, and there was one business magazine, i think, was the only magazine where you could put men on the cover, because all the other women's magazines, that is, there were a lot of what are called men's magazines - that means with women not always dressed or not very dressed on the covers, and there was one magazine where we published,

this face won't be there, because it's just not good for the magazine's reputation, but

i couldn’t refuse, say no, that we have some kind of discrimination on this or that basis, so i decided to just name that figure out of the blue, which is obviously unaffordable, i’ll repeat again that the cover cost from twenty, 25 to 35 thousand dollars, i just said, you know, we have everything reserved for the next few months, so excuse me, 150,000, imagine my surprise and displeasure when my interlocutor, that is, this pr person, barked, said: well, okay, how can you transfer it in cash or like that, i realized that that’s it, well, we got it, that you have to answer for the bazaar, that you have to publish this cover, it was the most expensive of those i sold, i say sold by me, because i made the decision, the money did not go into my pocket. of the covers i sold, we continue

to talk about jeans and about corrupt journalists, this is a podcast chronicle of the end of times, my name is evgeny dodolev, there was another story about the covers, i remember when i bought, that means i bought, there was an owner, we have an oligarch, by his order i acquired there these or those... editions, this was a licensed edition of a very popular men's magazine, the license was purchased and -

the license is clear what format it is, what content it contains, that's why i say again that only this brand was purchased, especially since when a magazine brand is purchased, then you have the opportunity to place there the materials that the licensor has released, that is, the publishing house that sells you the license, it provides you with the entire package of different filming and materials that can be translated so that you...

going somewhere for a photo shoot like this, because usually it wasn't just the cover that was shot, that is, there was also the so-called sub-cover material, that is , several pages were filled with the shoot and some photo was left for the cover, so he was so persistent in saying that it was really important that it came out, that i , at that moment, when i was finishing my second glass of mineral water, decided for myself that well, screw it, well, there won't be... this singer, just 100%, and if he hadn't come, i probably wouldn't have said used the already prepared material, than to shoot a new cover or get it from the licensor or bother with it at all, but when the issue's content was ready, i think we took one of the hollywood stars as

a licensor, put it on quite undressed, well, as the format of the publication suggests, and literally after a few... after the release of this magazine, serious people came to us, what the hell is going on, we paid 30,000 dollars there, where is our cover at all, i say, well, you are asking, these are those whom you paid, because we did not take money from you, that is, it was a sold cover, it was sold, clearly not for the publication's cash register, there he profited. a professional journalist, professional, as it turned out, in all respects, there were other cases, there is such an international businessman, about whom in various wikipedias they write that he is an associate of the famous japanese, a person who

takes care of our athletes overseas in america, and hockey players, and ... sistok, a very famous person, my friend, andrey vandenko, who was my deputy in the early nineties in the novy vzglyad project, such a thing existed, the first private weekly in russia, he was my deputy and i consider him the best interviewer, well, magazine and newspaper, i actually recommended andrey vandenko as a person who does a brilliant interview for this person, and... the interview was recorded, he was photographed for the cover, day x comes, when the issue should go on sale, and i get a call, again, here - from a patient, he says, what kind of, let's say, crap, like, i i just stopped at a gas station, there's a magazine there,

on the cover there's a nice, well-known lady, i say, well, i have nothing to do with this at all, i just recommended someone who would record the interview , well, i'll figure it out now, i call andrey, i say, andrey, what happened, there's a very angry felix, he's raging and throwing his hands up, he in turn says to me: i'll call you back, you know what they did, well, yes, i don't even know if anyone had done this before or not, they put a lady's face on one cover, on the front, well, actually, on the cover, i don't know, they sold it or no, on the last page, well, which is also a cover, it's called the fourth cover, well, well, on...

how they dealt with it, but i think that somehow this issue was settled. but with covers there were stories of this kind and i remember how in that very licensed magazine, a men's magazine, i'll explain it again, it's where usually quite naked girls appear on the cover of this magazine, in addition, we are also accountable to the licensor, because the licensor generally monitors what... happens in those publications that are submitted according to license, the pr people of one mayor

of a northern city contacted me, they said that they didn’t take him on the cover of this publication either, because he’s in a business publication, i just said, i’ll figure it out now, i’ll just call our licensor in the city of london and ask, can we solve it, because the covers, the fact that we sell the covers, they knew that we were getting money, because this money was cashed, that is , it wasn’t pure denim, so i call london, ask the curator, i i say, andryu, we have this official, he recorded a video and is generally very... advanced and wants to be on the cover, well, roughly understanding what the reaction will be, with a completely impeccable, as it seems to me, and

seems british, such a sense of humor, he says: no questions, if he takes a picture in a thong and puts a cherry in his butt, in such a form, in general, we will not object, and i honestly, word for word, simply retold it to the piercers, well, they laughed and that was the end of the matter, however, it did not end entirely. because she said: well, you know, at least here's such a hitch, can you at least go to work then, since we had such a large package fall through, we've already prepared some money, to hire a girl somewhere in pr or something, i say, for god's sake send her, let's see what kind of girl she is, a girl arrived, and she parked right there on bolshaya androenskaya street, we had an office building. publishing house, there are tram tracks there, she parked right on the tram tracks, bentley, everything as it should be,