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pyotr romanov and sergey solovyov, let's try to understand the origins of the conflict in the middle east today. the issue of the formation of, so to speak, a jewish state was discussed after the first world war, so the roots go back there, and these roots are intertwined, because the interests of very different parties clashed, not only the palestinians or the jews, but they were intertwined in the middle east primarily because of oil. the interests of great britain, the usa, the soviet union, and a number of other western countries are intertwined. at the end of the first world war, when british troops under the command of fred marshal allenby, defeated the ottoman army group that was defending palestine, which had been part of the ottoman empire for four centuries before that, the british took jerusalem, and, by the way, allenby, as a sign of respect, did not enter jerusalem on horseback, but on foot. yes, the ottoman
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empire at that time held out for about a year, after which the mudra armistice was signed and turkey left the first world war, but the fate of its middle eastern territories remained generally unclear. this also concerned palestine, where the british troops. the fate of palestine was to be decided by the newly created international organization, the league of nations, created by the versailles peace treaty. and so on september 29, 1923 , the mandate for palestine, which was received by great britain, came into force, and from then on this region remained under british control until this territory, well, supposedly, until this territory could govern itself independently. in fact, it became, well, it was officially called a mandated territory, in fact, one of the colonies great britain. and the british regulated the repatriation of jews to palestine during the interwar period. the waves of migration were called aliyah. and during the fourth aliyah, which lasted from 1924 to 1929,
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about 80,000 jews repatriated to palestine from mainly europe. the fifth aliyah was even more massive - 250,000 jews. and conflicts began between the jewish population, newly arrived in palestine, and the arab population. the british analyzed this situation, and the british colonial secretary macdonald, prepared a report for the british government, the so-called white paper, in which he proposed to limit jewish migration to palestine in order to preserve british influence there, these laws, which followed from the white paper on limiting jewish migration to palestine, were followed by a reaction from right-wing zionists, militant groups that were created in order to oppose primarily the arabs, turned against the british empire, there was such an organization, irgun, irgun is precisely a right-wing zionist paramilitary organization, which...
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objects, here, by the way, it is also important to emphasize one point, that quite a lot of jews who were in palestine, actually young people, many of whom fled from europe, including from nazi persecution, despite restrictions from great britain, they enlisted in the troops, primarily in the british troops in order to fight on different fronts, in particular they fought in north africa, being fit for combat in the desert, having become accustomed to the climate in israel, they fought against the nazis, then these people with came back with combat experience.
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solid positions, and the americans, we too, we need to understand this, we need to understand this too, it means that the positions in the middle east were not very strong then, and truman and stalin believed that zionism would help them to strengthen themselves in this region. stalin's logic was understandable, because a lot of natives, so to speak, of russia
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came there, there were many leftists among them, so the calculation was that they would bring some kind of closeness with... with russia , some leftist ideas, they would contribute strengthening the authority of the soviet union. you said a very important thing, that among the zionists at that time there were leftists, and they were the dominant group among the zionists, actually the leftists, the zionists, the heirs of the bund to a large extent, yes , the jewish labor party, originally from the russian empire of poland, uh, they were the initiators of the creation of the state of israel, and uh, they... the right-wing zionists were in the minority, and their relations, by the way, were very mutually bad, even at some point things later reached military clashes, but this hope that the left there will continue some more or less moderate, if not pro-soviet, then moderate in relation to the soviet union
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policy, they were generally based on this history of the zionist movement, why did the jewish state appear, the palestinian state has not yet, well, firstly... with the arabs, it actually began on the day of the adoption of this resolution, it just flared up even more and flared up, but the first flashes just at that moment, the arabs were against the jewish state tried crush it as if in the cradle, the day of the creation
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of the state of israel for the arabs is nagba, it is a catastrophe in translation, well, and what happened next, when these first clashes began, they grew, in fact, into a full-scale war. when this happened, the soviet union began to supply weapons to the jews, the british began to supply weapons to the palestinians, by forty-nine, although the jordanians, well, the arab legion too, by the way, had experience of the second world war, it fought during the second world war, although this arab legion managed to hold on to itself the jewish quarter of old jerusalem, however, it means... israel then defended its right to exist, and the egyptians were satisfied with control over the gaza zone. it is important to emphasize here that at that moment two nationalisms had already clashed: jewish nationalism and arab nationalism, and a peaceful resolution
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of the conflict at that moment, apparently, in principle , could not have been, especially given the british policy, which we have already discussed, devided the empire, dividing power. in addition, the holocaust behind the jews, because, roughly saying, there is nowhere to retreat, yes, that is, this is very important to understand, what united the jews in the struggle then for the state of israel, this feeling that we survived the holocaust, now the same thing can happen again , and this will play a role more than once, yes, in the mobilization of israelis during the arab-israeli wars, well, immediately after this war, in fact, decided... the question, who will really become, will dominate in this region, the united states or the soviet union, why did israel at that moment change its course and focus on the united states of america, well, firstly,
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because in the first elections in israel, the left, despite moscow's hopes, lost and therefore this historic decision. the gates to the west towards the united states, it was not they who made the decision, not these forces, well, and secondly, of course, the jewish lobby in the united states played its role, their enormous financial resources, this also influenced the turn of orientation towards moscow, they reoriented themselves towards washington. if we talk about further events, then of course we are simply forced to recall the year 1956, the famous vanity crisis in history. when the situation heated up again, and if in the first war there was some clarity of position, more or less, then here everything got so twisted, because well, yes, there were interests of the israelis, there were interests of the palestinians, there was an interest
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of egypt, but then there was also the united states, and great britain, and france, that is, all these got involved... what became a casus belli, that is, the reason for the war, it was abdel nasar's decision, so to speak, to block the vanity channel, what? well, it's enough to look at the map to understand how unacceptable it was for the israelis, to block it for israel had, yes, yes, yes, yes, israel carried out another, so to speak, action on the territory of gaza, anti-terrorist, but at the same time decided to punish the egyptians, their headquarters were located there, they destroyed this headquarters, we continue, if we talk about... the six-day war, then well, everything developed according to the classic, i would say scenario,
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first there were some actions, some explosions, murders on israeli territory, it was, so say, nasa declared mobilization there, removed un observers from sinai, announced a retaliatory operation that would... that is, in essence, history repeated itself to some extent as with the suet canal, all
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this aggravation was slightly missed, because moscow did not expect that nasar would act so actively, the us withdrew from this and only declared that they support freedom of navigation. degol, after a meeting with the minister, with the israeli minister of foreign affairs, declared that he was stopping arms supplies. to israel, the british mass they said polite words to israel and nothing. well , in the end, the israelis apparently decided that since the foreign ministry wasn’t acting, then let the defense ministry act. and they struck a blow at the egyptian army, and the inequality of forces was some kind of fantastic and nevertheless, well, in general, now in all military academies there are operations, six-day wars, it’s simple.
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well, you can say that to some extent israel lost again, because it again captured some, added to its arab population another part of the arab population, thus even more problems arose, as for the soviet union, despite the war lost so to speak by the egyptians, the influence of the soviet union there only increased, because it was necessary to supply weapons again, again... trained the arabs, the positions of the soviet union in this case
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actually strengthened, in fact , the soviet union had bases in the mediterranean, but there they were called guest ports, support base zones, in fact these are military bases of the soviet union, here i found figures, the territory of israel after this war increased threefold, the population by almost a million.
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egyptians and egyptians, well, that is, it was a preparation, a kind of revenge for the six-day war, in fact, the defeat after they had been preparing for a long, long time and everything happened so unsuccessfully, provided, well, a bad, if not peace, then in general, well , some kind of semblance of peaceful existence until recent
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times. sergey solovyov, study history with us. i am larisaeva, let's get married, good afternoon, today the groom is vyacheslav, rustam and vitaly, and our bride is alena. alena is 32 years old, when her beloved kindly gave her a cup with his ex's name on it, she had no idea how much she would get burned in this relationship. alena is a taxi driver, works part-time as a photographer, lives in moscow, admits that... herself in a striptease, is proud of the fact that she calmly talks about her shortcomings, dreams of getting a shepherd dog, buying a mobile home, warns that she takes a bath for 5 hours. alena can't stand overly serious and stately gentlemen, as well as silent ones and those who like to throw around compliments. she will marry a connoisseur of board games, who loves animals, knows how
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be generous surprises, not shy to fool around able to earn at least some penny. hello, hello, how beautiful you are, quite an interesting combination, taxi driver stripper, but i think one does not interfere with the other, who are you, your friend, danilo, what do you do, you are also a taxi driver, if only, i am a better friend of alena, we know each other little, but to say so, we have been through a lot together. he is a friend of my ex, not only does she work as a taxi driver, she also works part-time, she also wants to live in a mobile home, this does not even surprise me, since her friend is surprised, but he looks like, you know , a summer guy from the village, aleon, look, even if all the mugs in the world ran out in one day, i would make one out of a newspaper or i don't know, like this
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little bag and drink from it, but definitely not from a porcelain mug with a portrait of your lover's ex, what do you think? what got into his head, how come you didn't smash this cup on his head? in fact, for some reason i didn't react the way you said, and i met him after he had been dumped by his ex for a month without explanation, and somewhere i had some kind of maybe just understanding, i thought that maybe with time he would somehow forget and turn to... that is, you allowed yourself, you are such a pretty, interesting girl, yes or fell in love so much, it was important for you to get him, somewhere like that yes, that is, i really strongly, that is, you put it on the line yes and were ready to endure everything, the main thing is that he was with you, alena is a very attractive girl, yes i also noted, she is very pretty, but why is
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she afraid of stately gentlemen, yes why is she somehow he doesn't accept them, it seems to me well... take a closer look, in the end we achieved it, we married him, yes, yes, then he put everything away, we had a conversation, he put everything away, everything changed, we got married, everything was fine, and then somewhere in a couple of days i find out that he was texting his former classmate there or classmate, and he started communicating with her, he cheated on you literally the next day, how did you find out about the betrayal? first i found out on social networks, i saw it when i just went to our computer common, and it was open directly for correspondence, and then there was a call in the evening, there was a woman's name written on it, and i brought the phone, he was like, i'll answer later, and something just zags me
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, i was like, i understand, you told him, you can do anything with me, i will tolerate everything, because i need you, so he thought, i will tolerate at... family, children, already some stability, and already 32 years old is already such an age when you want when the janitor appeared, in that very period, no, no, that was after. divorce from her husband, there was a completely different person, that is when i met, but i was so much like that, he also thought that probably love, saving. after the divorce, when we wrote to each other, he also told, he says, i'm also trying to realize something, to get back into my place, because i've been in relationships all the time since i was 16, and i essentially haven't lived alone, i haven't gone anywhere,
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i'm without guys, yes, yes, i'm all the time, well, that is, a reason to do something, this is no, that's what the janitor is, he was the best janitor on the planet, i don't know, no, well, naturally, when i came to him, i didn't know the area, that's why he worked as a janitor, you say that this is your greatest love. yes, you know, this is not just my problem, i thought that i was the only one, i don't see that he is in such a state, in what state, like this, that he does not want to develop, but i am unbearably drawn to him, you know, i would rather call it when you are next to him, that's how you understand, i also understand that this is not normal, but when you are next to him, you just don't need anything, she is either counting with the janitor, messing around, or she is in a strip club herself. she works, or she some exes are strange, then she has current friends, well, that is, she likes experiments, you know, experiments, and not even quite ordinary ones, but you are
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a lifeguard, you thought, i will raise him , make an engineer out of him, and in order to drag him away, we went to work as a stripper, that's also true, because then he helped me with a loan, he took it, but then he started giving me a phone, i say, why, he says, you deserve better, i say, i understand, but please her money. no, he helped me with mine, he kind of closed it for me, but i i give it back, that is, he didn’t cover it, that’s how we broke up, when, when we had already tied it up, that’s when i went to the strip club, i went, and then i suddenly got sick , it happened that he also brought me medicine, and then i had no strength, i couldn’t even call him, he was like that for a whole week... he didn’t even call, asked how i was doing, life may just be hard, i shook it, that’s it, but this is undoubtedly, but on the other hand, i don’t know how the stars had to multiply so randomly for everything to coincide like that,
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her life's track turned in such, one might say, absurd twists of fate, you want children, not really larisa, well, wait a minute, why are you so hesitant, well, well, well, i'm honestly telling you, i don't feel this feeling yet, don't want. children, but i want more now you work as a taxi driver, and if your husband forbids you to work, it's very dangerous, and well, at night you work, i work exclusively at night, i partially agree with rosa in terms of working as a taxi driver, as for the day, well, of course i wouldn't want to would, but it would not be such that no 100% do not work, and as for the night, no, it is 100% no in any case, because in fact yes first - it is very dangerous, well probably the management. i say, myself, i myself advertised - work in a taxi, and this, i
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can not be against being a taxi driver, i was the one who called women for this, but why at night, let the men work, there is during the day - during the day, i will explain, during the day there are traffic jams, during the day it does not work out so well for money, and at night it is calmer, you are not afraid, then we decide, and if. the men will already have children, you are fine with this, so, the main thing is that he doesn't demand children from you, that he earns some penny, well, he wasn't against her going for a ride at night, he wasn't against you going for a ride at night, okay, okay, and why do you spend 5 hours in the bathroom, you have such a, well, it seems like a dirty job, such a style, what are you doing there, i just like it, i recharge there, it seems to me that you just lie in the bathroom, i just lie in the bathroom, yes. and my daughter lies in bed for 5 hours and i'm sleepy in general , you, you could be out there on the internet is there any information what it is in general, is it dangerous for health, in general it is not
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very useful, if you spend more than a couple of hours there, then the risk of dehydration increases, it is recommended to take a bath for 20 minutes maximum, although it may be that alena is just lying there without water, life is short and how much time to spend in the bath, for example, i shower for 5 minutes, because i have ... maybe she works a lot, gets tired, does not notice the passage of time, but tell me, please, uh, mindelson, how to determine, a taxi driver is a person, so to speak, uh, in his own way gut, or not, is there some kind of test? well, let's do a little test, to what extent are you, alena, a taxi driver. this is how you start a conversation with a man you like, you say, let me get acquainted, you say, will you show me the way. or, well, in general, i have my own business, and this is all for the soul. the third option. ah, so you are a classic taxi driver. and what do you say at the end of a date? thank you for
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a pleasant evening. call me or give me a five in the app, give me a five in the app, but this is a real emotional strilkis, you are a taxi driver, meet the first groom, hello? hello, hello, my name is vyacheslav, i listened to your story, i suggest buying a set of cups with your name, let's get acquainted, come on, what a brigade, thank you, vyacheslav is 34 years old, co-founder of a construction company, works part-time as a massage therapist, lives in novosibirsk, rides a motorcycle, plays paintball and is a fantastic cook, is proud
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that he is not an egoist, admits that he will not allow his chosen one to lie on the couch for a long time, they warn that you cannot take in his house phone charger and leave the cabinets open, despite the fact that vyacheslav's wife worked as an investigator in the family, he had to solve the case of marital infidelity, hopes that alyona will inspire him to other feats. hello, hello, oh, what kind of a mug is this, they gave you a gift, what does it say?
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a couple of days to go to sochi to see a friend. she left for 2 days - so we stayed with this friend, the three of us went, walked around krasnodar, she comes back and we leave for rossiysk to the sea, actually, were at sea, decided to go for a ride on a catamaran, the girls say, take a picture of us, i take the phone, a message comes - hi , how are you, well, something is written there, dima work or something like that, well, i say, you got a message, she goes up, i say, well , who are you, just out of interest, nothing more, without any, accordingly, suspicions.
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says, well, there at work, says, there's someone running after me, i'm like, well, okay, he runs, he runs, no problem, she goes down again, i start taking pictures again a message comes, and you ate, a persistent cake in the shape of a red beret, i don’t know what he meant, he says, you ate, and i say, you got another message, she gets up, oh, he’s flirting with me, she doesn’t know what to do with him, oh well, what a fool, yeah, well listen, i look at him, it seems to me he has a chance, well, like look at yourself, look at him, like well... it’s just, well, he’s lost, i just completely agree with you, there’s just emptiness in his eyes, he’s like some kind of zombie, i’ve never looked at my phone, never at all, that is, even if i climbed, it's normal, this is a possible wife, well, actually , i think, let me see, i don't know why you just shocked me, i take the phone, open the chat, and it turns out, firstly, when she flew, or rather went to sochi to visit a friend, he flew to her, they walked there, and what didn't they add, that it was she who got stuck?
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she got stuck somewhere in the wrong direction, well , in fact, i can't say here, like many people , then the wife is to blame, no, i just have this small nuance that is incomprehensible to me after 2-2 years for some reason it gets boring, and what didn't they do to the baby? well, we planned, we really wanted a child, how i wanted, she wanted, we tried, but it didn't work out, we took tests, maybe because they didn't give her a phone charger, it just ran out of battery somehow, and why, by the way, i don't understand why i have such a small bic, well, i have such a thing, here alena smiles at him, yeah, be afraid, well, for now he listens attentively and thinks that she is sitting in the bathroom.
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a girl is crying in a machine, a cool chilly one coat, all in tears and lipstick, dirty face, all in tears and
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lipstick, dirty face, started dancing, that's good, she moves well. ice in her fingers, earrings in her ears, she has to go alone today, along the icy street, she has to go alone today, no, well, he can't sing, but look, i 'm clapping for the girl, she moves well, great, thank you,
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danilo and daria, what can you say, what can i say, alena herself is like a family member to me, she has done a lot for me, and with all my soul, with all my heart, i want him breathed life into me. it's clear, alena, unfortunately, won't say it live here, won't open her heart, let's say, yeah, breathe life in, i don't get it, will she die or something, yeah, i don't get it, it's like breathing life out, that's how i put it, give it to him, well, he's cute, so calm, okay, then he's good, let's take him, i think we found a common spark. ran through, i think she'll choose me, i sang great too, she liked it, i even danced, everything 's great, meet the second groom.
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alena, hi, i'm delighted with your image life, when we are together, do not put out this flame, thank you, what, thank you, rustam 29 years old, fitness trainer, lives in moscow, dreams of learning to pull up on one hand, is proud of the fact that he can admit his mistakes, ask for forgiveness, admits that every thursday he spends time. warns that he will not allow the girl to throw tantrums. after the birth of his child, rustam realized that he would have to completely change his life and give up hanging out with friends.

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