so i wrote my dissertation, so i wrote it and handed it in, then, so, this is funny, then we are called to the port committee, yeah, and they say, there is an opinion that exactly, that we should take part , so, in the casting, because it turns out that they found only five teams, they needed six teams in the season, you know , not 25, not 20, like now, in general, it turned out that means, one team is missing, and strangely enough, so, they chose us. strangely enough, because we gathered, and we had quite strong student theaters in all faculties, we they put together a team of about 20 people, they wrote some kind of performance for about 30 minutes, that is, something similar to a skit, there was one, there was one joke, and in general it was very weak, in general, even if i remembered it, i would not say, here is the rest. well, in general, in general, if,

if they had not guessed to split us into two teams and make us play a warm-up, then it turned out that in fact we are quite witty guys, we just do not know what kvn is, in general, from which side to it to roll up, in the end yes, but we sang well there and played the warm-up well, then they assigned us a specially trained person who taught us to play kvn, that's the funniest thing, and we prepared for the game in 17 days, we didn't win. no, i only won the captain's competition, and by accident, because my partner, the captain, you see, blew me into the blank, so i solemnly, you see, answered very beautifully, that's it, but then we met them in the final anyway, yeah, we have a fragment, we can watch, wow, you you think it's fun for all 30 minutes, so your option, you know, i realized that you like sweets, so i wanted to, i

'll give it to you now too, i just wanted to remind you that you need to love not yourself in art, but art in yourself, it was all very serious, you know, generally speaking, it's a very multifaceted thing, multifunctional, firstly, it seems to me that this is one of...

yes since then yes, well, well there i still managed to defend my dissertation, to be a liberated komsomol worker there, not between the game right after that, that's the time did participation in kvn help or hinder in some way , because, for example, it was different for me, that is, when i had the army kvn, yes, that is, on the one hand, everyone said well done, we are maintaining the brand of our school, our university, educational institution, you are great, on the other hand. and

then, yes, then it’s like, who is cheerful, where are you all going, everyone is going there to some kind of, well, to some kind of target practice, and we are going to a festival, what the hell is a festival, what kind of dance is this, also in my army, come on like turn around there like come on march in the breaks like also braydan yeah who's our breakdanchik there joke everything depended on how you play everything depended on how you play in fact there were no social networks yet.

well that is it was different you see yes you win well done you lose so come here again this is in the company there you were invited somewhere there to a birthday someone's wedding there something else well you're a kvschik well-kashi. there is such a funny joke that is poking fun at journalism from you, when moses led his people for 40 years in the desert, now 40 years have passed , a journalist comes to him and says: tell me, you, moses, led your people for 40 years, tell me, have you had any funny incidents during this time, dima, how did you get here, i

apologize, i have a short story about, have you had any funny incidents, and that is, you are a gift to yourself. i realized that i made a lead for myself, well done, well done, you see, it’s not for nothing that the teams of sok, tours, cities change one after another, in each city we have a small press interview there before the concert, our guys from the team have already stopped wanting to go to interviews, because in almost every provincial city a provincial journalist asks this question, the most persistent were the two of us and something funny happened, yes yes yes, you are the kv team, but did anything funny happen during your preparation, these are the questions. and we, then, come, there is a girl who really doesn’t like everything that’s happening, she shows with her whole appearance asks there in a series of her questions, then, but yes, some funny ones cases, maybe funny, well, something unusual, that's how she asks the question, and my friend, he just boiled over, because it

really irritated him, he says: you know, yes, we had one funny case, during our rehearsal the guys went out on stage not according to the lighting, and the director was really swearing, yeah. they still went out incorrectly, and the director put lasers on the stage, and she records all this time, she says that she put lasers, and cut off one guy's legs, she turns to me for support like, what is he talking about, i say, can we get her bandaged quickly, she realized that we were just forgiving her in this way, listen, you are professionally engaged in humor, and some kind of wire deformation? there must be, i know that, say, the front side of kvn is humor that people understand, but the dark side of kvn, the internal humor, it is very harsh, say, i talked to one kvn player, i remember, he joked, i still digest this joke like a sawmill, native there,

before it was there, and now yes, yes, such harsh humor, these are internal jokes.

it's very simple, firstly, i really wanted a team at my university, at my university where i studied, there was no team, and i was expelled, i was reinstated at another university where i was. but my friends invited me, my friends invited me with a very beautiful wording, after which i even wondered if they were my friends at all,

they, therefore, to me, to me, no, well practically, practically, they told me, dim, we really need a fat guy for the team, yes, we have a joke, but there is no person. he will say, let's go, and since then everything has actually happened, and imagine, i got in, well, that's true, i had orders for sure, we need a fat one, only skinny, we had. by order, a new head of the school came and instead of amateur performances, which were planned to be held every year, he came and said no, and he was a fan of kvn, he said kvn, well, what kvn, what is it, well, we watched it on tv, well , we liked the program, parents gathered there, laughed, and so, i remember, our commander came, and we were literally 3 minutes late from somewhere, he said come here, and so they wrote down, he was late from leave for boxing, it doesn't matter that the person doesn't do boxing, but the team...

when i entered the medical institute, the kazan state medical university, there was already a team of four tatars, with whom you played, yes, it was the first team, the first team, and you were already in the second, we were already in the second, they were naturally the stars of the republic, the city, they invited me after the festival, we had a first-year student like that at the university and in many universities, they invited me to the team, but i was like... frosya burlakova said: you know, what? how dare i even say that? i 've dreamed of playing in kvn my whole life, but then i said no-no-no, i came to study, i want to become a doctor, a dentist. and what am i saying to myself? yes, what am i saying to myself, but nevertheless, oh well, oh well, oh well, if you don't want to, oh well, if you don't want to, study, time passes, a new team of four tatars is assembled, i 'm sitting there, rooting for them in a cap, four tatars in all this paraphernalia.

by that time i had already successfully graduated from the institute, but i played in such city teams, for a university, but i had three of them teams, yes i played, but it was like these leagues and our internal ones in tatarstan. then bam, i'm called to a team that's already new , and i do a voice parody

of someone, of mancerat kaballe, and in the second part i don't do anything, i just lead the horse out by the fishing line, that's how i had to do everything, they go further, but don't win, but they get through to the next round, and they say: no, katyukha, okay, everything 's fine, you'll play, i play in the next game, we win, it was on my day birthday and we... that it was our team's birthday, since we won, finally, that's how it all started, then it continued, there was the first league music cup, the winners who went to jurmala, and we took the golden kivin, everyone, and jurmalo applauded us, it was an unforgettable feeling, i 've never experienced anything like this, when you're walking, and we're still the first time, we've never been anywhere like this, this central street in... and we're walking to the banquet, and people are already sitting in beautiful

cafes, celebrating a wonderful evening there, yes, and we go, having taken our numerous props, and we go, and they, that we are the winners, performed well, they go like this, we sing some of our songs, and people stand and clap for us like this all along the street, it was something, i think that none of us from the team forgot it, it is impossible to forget, but it was cool, what pleasant moments, by the way, you know what i thought? it just so happened that more or less classical ones there, you know, there is garik marterrasyan, also a psychotherapist, for example, yes, but there are people of such professions, like vitaly kolomets, he is a police officer, for example, when...

there is, i have one burial ground, in my speech the number there are these numbers archaeologist, excavations, excavations, excavations, there i have this one burial ground. and he also told funny stories about how he writes down everything that is excavated in the heat in the excavation log, it is necessary to keep it lazy, he says, and i usually brought with me from the excavations there four or five bags of bones and kept them on the balcony and my wife all the time they had family scandals, because she came and she said: sergey, when will you sort out yours on the balcony in general, what is it there and he

says: in the evenings, usually it's already autumn or winter, he says, i just sat there, a femur, presumably that's it, some skulls are arranged, all this needs to be written down, photographed, well , by the way, he is still involved in archeology, and is involved in kvn, and the editor of the crimean league, an adult, and the editor of the children's league, and what is he only there, he also lures, i tell you, to this very secret burial ground, exactly so, cool images there were always, we also have fragments, let's see, mine, spilled over the shoulder straps yes yes a meslyak came to me, i immediately showed him the door, on the door was written

well done, and we sat down with him, took the alphabet, looked at all the letters on... 6 years have passed, and you haven't changed at all, seriously, well, let's go, so i 'm not going anywhere with you, oh no, you've changed, well, here we met, seryozhenka, why didn't you write to me, and the pen ran out, mom, mom, listen, why did all the children eat

cotton candy on holidays, and i ate regular. can't you see, mom speaks, what is your last name, and i say, your last name is like shakov's. and they don't need it, they don't need it, i have last names like this, what was it like for you, it's difficult, it 's so much laughing at all the generals at the shows, it was simply unbearable, but it was until the program got to this, a huge number of shows take place , then there's the general who is filming, this is

the number after which i got it in the neck never again... reacted to hate, because for the first time in my life i got on the internet, for the first time i learned that there are comments, that someone is commenting on this, and i saw that someone can laugh at people's injuries, all the big-eared people of the country, yes-yes-yes, wrote, accordingly, what they think about katya, it's a pity that they didn't show it, katya, she performed very heroically, very selflessly in kven, she was thrown over the screen, she was launched, that is, on some kind of cable. remove her quickly, the next number of our program will let the boys go here, and then only beautiful girls came out, you know,

all the girls came out like this, me and olga kartunkova, they really worked on us, because these were all experiments that could be conducted on a woman, it seems to me that kartunkova and i survived, because all the others came out, sang beautifully, said there, as if i were a queen, yes, well, that is, they were just joking.

perhaps only on the eve of the events, and here in africa the russians are to blame for everything, we are butting in only to keep them out. yesterday london broadcast a very interesting commentary about nagonii k 120tiletiyu dust. this is undoubtedly the one you are looking for. the legendary multi-part film based on the novel by yulian semenov. tas is authorized to declare, tomorrow on. and then such a disaster happened, the antifake program from the first channel was closed. during the time that our program was not on the air, viewers

wrote to us on the channel, called, and unkindly spread all possible fakes about us. we expanded our program, and geography, and history, and what we will review here. they also contact me so that i comment on where the truth is in turkish media or in russian media, well and here to me. always to help in the program antifake this season you will find a huge number of new interesting headings, this is a symbol of the fact that historical justice is being restored, women are most often subject to anxiety when they receive some messages always wants to say: mom, let's not panic, new season of the program antifake, new rule, now i will personally go to the place to check the information together with you. antishake, the premiere of the season from monday on weekdays on all viewers want from katya skulkina a cool joke, you can short, you can that i now just instantly this one-liner that happened

unexpectedly in a conversation with my friend, we started talking about the fact that men are fickle, let's call it that, but what he tells me: no, katya, i am a one-woman man, but not for long. you see, it turned out very much in the style of vishnevsky, and he didn't even realize it, but i remembered it for me this is such, you know, a characterological feature of some men, that he was so sincere in this, i am a one-woman man, but not for long. dim, listen, and you in such a bit of an aggressor is always in kvn, and you in life, in life you are kind, or what, well, you beat people there, sometimes there is such a person sitting there in this regard, where are the jokes, no, but otherwise he is a total wreck. mm, well, i can’t say for sure that i am a kind person, i’ll be frank, because, uh, we are also engaged in the preparation of other teams, when we work there as editors,

creative producers, i am quite strict and demanding, i am the only one who is very soft, when mikhail naumovich and i went to schools together, where we shared our experience the future generation, yes, of course, yes, i work with children with children's teams. drank, no, ate, yes, oh, that is, on the contrary,

understandably, while i... sit in the sauna sweating, you are here i apologize, tit, i apologized, how can i help, please help me choose a shirt, oh, you know, unfortunately, sizes 100 xl, no, so come here, that remedy for everyone. basia why do you have beer? well, you, a stoller, should understand, no need to polish. yes, we live poorly, oh well, at least the parking lot is nearby, i took the cover off the car. so, what days do you go to school need, on what days do you get your pension, father, did you shave - with a plane, planes, the joke is that we still have this plane

, the sacred one. we have this plane - yes , yes, near the remains, it means the proud title of the museum of the poly of miracles, we have preserved all this , everything was awesome, i remember we had a room , it means in the military school, a room where we were allocated in the club, it means where we gathered and wrote kvn, we had all sorts of awards hanging there from the soviet era, there were no awards yet , some were hanging almost from above, these there the party said there was some kind of waste there.

well, that is, the order was violated, and we removed everything, and then, well, at the last moment, when he came in, we realized that this was hanging, i realized, he came in, he looked at me, there was such a pause, a pig-like look at this stupid bear, he points his finger and says, i had one like this about a machine gun, well, ugh, that is, even he played with a general like this, we were like, when did this machine gun start being released, what is it? but nevertheless, despite the fact that today we laughed at all of this journalists, there was such a moment very often, i still return, did you have any funny cases, yes, well, any, because, honestly, i will say that our team had a great many of them, the second question, i just remembered, which also irritated, for some reason, yes, that is, well, now i understand

that it is because it is...

but nevertheless, of course, i will not ask you now your favorite joke and why i will ask you do you have all this at once, you know, this is exactly the same situation , only completely different for me there is a favorite joke but the favorite joke of our team team yes-yes-yes because answering the same question to journalists i chose a joke of our team in advance we had a joke about us very... we performed at the festival we had such a joke that i came out angry, again swore at them that all this is not so, and ilya told me, come on, dimka, what are you, sochi, festival, relax, i said ilya, if i relax, your buttons will be blown off your head, that's for me, and this joke, why did i remember it, because we, we we were coming up with, well, in that office where we were coming up with humor, i was lying, like this, lying on

a couch like this and someone... says to me, i'm done, we can't do anything, we can't come up with anything, back and forth, vartyun, vartyun was, and so someone says to me, come on, what are you talking about, relax, i say, i'll relax now, you'll get ten buttons on your head, that's how it was. go, go, let's go, let's go, let's write it down, well, thank you very much, dima, thank you very much mikhail naumovich, katya, thank you very much for helping our viewers learn more about this unique phenomenon, the magnificent game of kvn, and, frankly speaking, i can say that konstantin is now also a new baked kvn player, he also knows something now, it was a pity that he knew very little about brackdance. yes, yes, yes, that 's me too, i came specifically for this, frankly speaking, i wanted to listen, there's no point in talking about this, you have to watch it, you have to see it, amuse each other, and life will become brighter and more positive, bye, bye,

hello, i'm dmitry bak, we have a literary podcast here now, let them not talk, let them read, we have absolutely today is a special issue, because we are talking about the prize and neo-literary prize, and the new peace prize, it is called the international peace prize named after leo nikolaevich tolstoy, after all, leo nikolaevich tolstoy is a writer, so the prize has to do with literature, but it is broader than literature, however, as is leo tolstoy. broader, deeper, more voluminous than literature, he is the most famous, world-famous russian humanist, writer, thinker, philosopher, now i will ask questions about peace,

peacemaking and olvie nikolaevich tolstoy, a wonderful interlocutor, this is the special representative of the president of the russian federation for international cultural cooperation, mikhail efimovich shvytkoy, hello, mikhail efimovich, and the rector. well, one of the first peacemakers was, of course , christ - in his philosophy, in general, the philosophy of christianity - the idea of ​​such reconciliation between

people and reconciliation with life with god is the main thing, it is very important, the idea of ​​faith, it is the idea of , so to speak, peace. and not war, you are not fighting with god, the devils are fighting with god, and god is the universe in some sense, but i think that now we may not go into other philosophies, but into other mythologies, but i think that since ancient times, since ancient times, man has had , so to speak, a thirst for satisfying instincts, as well as a thirst for some kind of compromise, because any community, even if in its head there is some kind of alpha male in... the idea is such a peacemaker, well, apparently, i am

inside the community and as you know, in general , i am afraid to talk about this, because anthropologists laugh at this when i do this i'm starting to say, but it exists somewhere in human nature, because those tribes and those social formations survived.

creative, and this was connected with the appearance of the first weapon of mass destruction in the form of a machine gun, then there was a conference in the seventh year, but we know that all this, unfortunately , ended sadly in 14. well , a charter would have been adopted there, by the way, a charter on the rules and customs of conducting land wars, there for the first time, by the way, in this charter there was an article connected with the preservation of monuments cultural, yes, but it must be said that - this is the initiative associated with the fight for peace, if i may use this cliche of our youth, and it often came from our country, for example, we remember that at the end of the forties the international stalin prize was established.

well, look, the peace prize in 1973

was awarded to brezhneev, then it was important, because in 1975 the helsinki treaty was signed, when it became clear that, well, yes, there is a cold war, yes, people have different views, yes, we remember the cookronics, which they wrote about warmongers, there are terrible caricatures, striking american imperialism, nevertheless it was clear, it is necessary to find some way out. situations when two sides have nuclear weapons and it is necessary not to use them for the continuation of life, well, in order for peace to be established, it is necessary to simply hear each other, to understand each other, that is , to work out some, you want a lot, you know, today now mikhail finalovich brezhnev, on him, unfortunately, a little caricatured view for quite a long time was, well, maybe connected with his, well , including, but probably 10 years ago.

and this is a fantastic document, because it turns out that all 18 years of his leadership, he really did build a security system with many, i think, six american presidents. and this security system - worked quite successfully for almost 40 years after his death, it was a huge amount of work, it really, when it was imposed then everyone remembers perfectly well this yes, the struggle for peace, the struggle for peace, and this was indeed, and it was a very difficult job of finding compromises, as mikhailovich said, of understanding in general that this existence is possible, but a nuclear war is impossible, because there will be no one. who , well, you understand, these were still people who

remembered the tragedy of the second world war, the horrors of the second world war, these were people wounded by what happened, of course, but in the soviet union there were no other people, other people are not in every family, why are we like this, why do we treat the great patriotic war like this, not because it exists in every family, and i think that was important, besides, there were people who made the bomb, and who understood that... they were responsible for ensuring that this bomb was never used after what happened, these people were heard by the country's leadership, which is important, the country's leadership had enough understanding of responsibility and education to hear and understand what the use of this nuclear weapon could lead to, well, it's no coincidence, because when in 1900 , i think it was '55, and then in '56 year, so to speak, the pogosh movement was formalized, in which einstein and other

outstanding physicists took part, naturally, russell, as if he formulated, bertrand russell, formulated the main provisions, yes, leading russian, soviet academicians, kopica, millionaires took part in it, these were people who were entrusted to deal with this problem, by the way, it still exists, but in such a very, well... no longer in such an influential form as it was then, but in the fifties, sixties, seventies, pogoshevsky the movement played a huge role, well, all peace movements in general, they were very serious, and... well, it

's important to understand one thing: we are now talking about peace in such a universal sense, because as you understand, in 1923, if i'm not mistaken, there were 183 military conflicts in the world, regional, regional wars were going on all the time, everyone understood that the main thing was to prevent this global one, because it would simply lead to extinction. and i'm afraid that they simply don't understand that tanks should fight the russians, we went through tanks and survived, we won't survive a nuclear war and they don't understand it, they don't have education and responsibility, when vic says we, then the point is that we are all of humanity,

of course, of course, black, not white, not red, not green, no one, of course, that's the point, there was the first world war, it turned out that it was terrible. then the spanish flu, which apparently took more people than the fighting, and it was practically 55 million at the same time, well, different estimates, different estimates, no one knows, and what it was in colonial countries, no one considered it there, yes, i remind you that, by the way, our enormous contribution, including to the cause of peace, is, for example, vladimir khavkin, the savior of millions, who created a huge number of vaccines against many very diseases that killed millions of lives in india, yes, of course, yes, and this is also a kind of struggle for peace, this is a struggle for the preservation of humanity, yeah, but of course, now the issue of preventing this global war is so acute that everything else is a little secondary, listen, well, we are a great nation in general, yes, from the point of view

of literature, art, science, sports, by the way, the organization of social life, a lot of other things, this means that we...

understand what it is, yes, understand all its threats, understand the threats from the east, understand the threats from the west, try to expand in order to survive, this is also a very complex story, this is a wonderful formula, expand in order to survive in the face of external threats , consolidate, and stabilize, yes

this is important, i will remind you, already in order to reduce the pathos a little, as mikhail mikhailovich said, we will not help in a fight, we will win in a war, this is the kind. even in the events that are happening now. so, i remind you that today we are talking about the international peace prize named after leo nikolaevich tolstoy. i have wonderful interlocutors in the studio, this is the special representative of the president of the russian federation for international cultural cooperation, mikhail iefimovich shvetkoy, and the rector of the russian state social university, academician of the russian academy of arts, andrei leonidovich khazin. we are talking about how peace prizes can help maintain peace and prevent war, which is probably why this prize is important, and not by chance. it is named after tolstoy, because vladimirovich tolstoy told me that the yasnaya

polyana prize nomination is very risky, yes, there are no international nominations, usually, yes, in different languages, but here it is, why? because if someone, for example, is a nobel laureate, mario vargas llosa sees letter signed by tolstoy, he understands what it is about, that is, the tolstoyan tradition in literature. this is just one of those languages ​​that is understood by absolutely everyone, everyone knows what it is about, not only literature, you know, i always remember, this is such a rather complicated translation from german, so i will quote inaccurately, but thomas mann told his daughter that the first world war would not have happened if tolstoy had lived, yes-yes-yes, he did not have to do anything, says thomasman, he could have just sat in his yasnaya polyana, if he was simply in yasnaya polyana, everyone would understand that the first world war...

it is absolutely obvious that scientists played a huge role in the fact that politicians who belonged to the generation that mikhail fich said correctly.

i say again, there are many threats, but there are dangers associated with the same artificial intelligence, and the computer danger, which also requires a universal agreement, because otherwise each closed system will begin to fight with another, and this will no longer be controlled by people, this is also, there will be a global failure, because one click of a button and elon musk has been talking about it for several years, moreover, it is amazing that... science fiction writers, both foreign and ours, who were so popular in the last decades of the soviet union, they are the ones who comprehend all these

problems. azi kazimova, this is what first comes to mind, but many other writers, they were simply philosophers, we may not have understood this then, for example, we will translate 21 volumes of stanislav lem and half of the treatises into russian. and thus these problems, they were raised by outstanding minds, including writers first and foremost, and were conveyed to millions of people, but what if these problems are about to arise before us, well, of course, there will be new threats, yes, absolutely now, which are impossible to even comprehend, but or imagine, but - to foresee, but humanity needs to develop such - methods of working with something absolutely new, which will nevertheless lead to survival. this, of course, is also the work of writers, this is a wonderful formula, that is, we must learn to work with what is unknown, with what

will appear tomorrow, but the thing is that, as they say in science, there is a known unknown, and there is an unknown and this will require , you see, we can’t understand that at some point, well, even such a problem as the climate problem, yes, it requires an agreement of all parties, when the parties do not want to agree. there are examples, well , recently the onovsky declaration on cybersecurity was adopted, yes, on information threats, which we generally came to some kind of agreement with all participants in the process, that is, on some issues, when you understand, that this is a problem that cannot be solved in a single country, but it is impossible, as they used to say in the soviet union, yes, there was such a joke that... a certain church organization became convinced that victory, since the victory of communism is possible in one single country, then the end of the world is also possible in

one single country, germany after certain... circumstances, germany decided to close all its nuclear power plants, listen, the french ones are right next door, they are not closed, the polish ones, what's the point this decision, it was pure police, so today it is important to understand one thing, it is clear that today we are experiencing a completely such period of history, when they seem to say, what global problems, this time, i think, is a dangerous decade, and this time, as you said, and this... will be a colossal strain not only of muscular forces, as they say, not only military, normal moral, spiritual, well, and writers, they are engineers of human souls, as one, well-known, taught us, you are the ambassador of the international lev nikolaevich prize tolstoy, and what do you think, will this prize still be some kind of real result,

contribution, we don’t know yet who will be its laureate, the first, second, third. hundreds of millions of people heard it, thought about it, it was really important, and as the minister said that if leo tolstoy had been alive, there would not have been the first world war, as he said, but there is another situation, that such moral authorities, they need to be nurtured, they need to be raised, and this is one of the channels, one of the instruments for the emergence of real people,

whose opinion, whose responsible opinion will be significant. there is the welfare sphere, bloggers there and so on and so forth, who are listened to, this also cannot be discounted, they are very different, of course, but of course, when we talk about moral authority, these are still people who carry some kind of high value message to the world, this is very important, it is very important that they are heard, in this information noise it is important to single out some channel when this noise fades, yes,

dies down. yeah, you hear the word, that's very you said it right, not only moral authorities, but also rhetoric and discussions of this problem, yes, which are connected, for example, with the prize, yes, more talk, more opinions, more analysis, this is always a plus, well , listen, whoever wants to will participate, when such people participate, this gradually becomes public knowledge in a broad sense, of course, well, according to the terms of the prize, the laureate can be an individual, an authoritative person, a scientific organization, and some foundation, an initiative group, and even an educational institution, that's it sub-curtain, as we think, it will be a surprise, of course, the first award is a notable event, it will be on tolstoy's birthday, september 9, but if we try to guess, here's who, i'm not talking personally, of course, yes, not about individuals, but

what kind of authorities, groups could it be? who should it be, a scientist or a politician or a scientific institute or a foundation, what do you think, that's what can be guessed here, well, the award plot is always a detective story, and we, among other things , must inform our esteemed interlocutors that they should, together with us to think about who will be, who can be the first laureate and what contribution this prize will make to our cultural life and to world life in general, well, you know...

and their work lives on, especially, of course, the red cross, this is, uh, it seems to me, there is an answer to your question, we will not personify, there should be an obvious intrigue. but these should be such significant figures, organizations, movements, and movements, this is important, of course, which will exist in any case - the lifespan of several generations, yeah, well, our esteemed interlocutors, today we talked about a new prize, this is the international peace prize named after leo nikolaevich tolstoy, with my interlocutors. there was the special representative of the president of the russian federation for international cultural cooperation mikhavich shvetkoy and the rector of the russian state social university, academician of the russian academy of arts andrei

leonidovich khazen, a huge, thank you, mikhail afimovich, andrei leonidovich, yuli borisovich khariton, i know what bombs were dropped on japan, wrote a technical assignment, in which he says that... we will work on two types of bombs. tromer asked when the soviet union would be able to create an atomic bomb, and pimberi thought and said : "it's hard for me to name a time frame." trumar says: "and i know when, never." the creation of nuclear weapons required a gigantic concentration of forces, this is something new that had to be created in the shortest possible time. everyone was under great tension.

the atomic bomb is a personal matter for person x, the premiere, tomorrow on the first. in the new season on first, there are already rumors about this crime in the city, wherever you go, they say everywhere, women are lured into a taxi and shot in the back, i wanted to ask you about your find, this knot seemed very massive, although it was picked up quite easily, you have been awarded a small honor of moles, the honor and trust of the reich, remember this. "after the war, i was looking for my son's comrades-in-arms, i was interested in what happened there at the end of the war, and anything could have happened there, if you don't have any photos, it's strange where they were, were they here,

my god, how similar he is to my son, you the only real witness, the only person he came to openly, well, major, the hunt has begun, we continue our conversation about the new prize, the leo tolstoy international peace prize. i have in my studio a well-known public figure, director of the leo tolstoy international prize foundation, daku gapurovich zavgaev. hello!

that is, everyone who understands the severity of the problems and can contribute to overcoming the emerging threats, maybe you... tell us in more detail, who established the prize, what organizations, and what people, this is important for any award, who came up with it, who thought it up, who brought it to life, who is behind it? russian historical society, russian peace prize foundation, russian military historical society june 22 , 2022. "international peace prize foundation

". the main task and goal of the newly established public award is to promote the consolidation of the international community around the idea of ​​peace. tell me, please, here is an international and public award, this combination of concepts is not always standing next to each other, that's what it means, internationality.

a world-famous conductor, winner of many awards, who makes a personal contribution to the cause of peace, and at the same time is the holder of the honorary title of unesco artist for peace, this is the composition of the jury speaks for itself, further nominees can be nominated by interparliamentary and other international organizations, parliaments, government structures, as well as...

a ceremony will be held in the bolshoi theater, the presentation of the first peace prize, and there will also be festive concert,

we have no doubt that the peace prize will justify the hopes placed on it. let us wish it success. yes, this is the answer to my question, that is, this presentation, of course, will be a direct contribution to the cause of establishing peace, and i sincerely thank you, i thank the famous statesman and public figure daka gapurovich zavgaev for this. wonderful, informative story about a new and completely unique prize, the international peace prize, named after lev nikolayevich tolstoy. i am sure that our conversation was interesting, important, it gave rise to some intrigue around the new award, to you, our esteemed interlocutors,

to whom i usually say, read with pleasure, i am now saying the same thing, but i add, think about the world, dear friends, thank you very much. thank you too, all the best, thank you, welcome to the air of the podcast of the chronicle of the end of times, and today i will tell you about how yulian semenov was eliminated. yulian semenovich semenov is an absolutely legendary figure. he is more than a writer , more than a publicist, of course, mainly he known as the author of such a character as stirlitz, the seventeenth moment of spring, this is his creation, this is his novel, which was filmed, this, by the way, was the first series

on soviet television, and many reproached yuliyan semenovich semenov, i remember that he took advantage of the fact that this was the first series, that is, there were more than 10 episodes, each episode was paid for as a separate film, that is, after this experience, the guest of the soviet union's television revised the system of payment for multi-episode series, so so-called films. vladimir semenovich vysotsky sang: "i hate gossip and versions, but here we can't do without versions." i hate them too, gossip in the form of a version, but versions, interestingly, that was the name of the publication in the holding company top secret, which appeared after the elimination of yuliana semenov, who actually created this holding company. generally speaking, the appearance

of the first private newspaper, and top secret was the first private publication in the soviet union, just marked the end of times, because the state. for the first time in 70 years its existence lost its monopoly on the printed word on periodicals. semenovich semenov was obsessed with this idea of ​​creating his own publication, in which he could publish what he considered necessary who he considered necessary, and he was obsessed with it somewhere since the eighty -sixth year, because in the 80th year he created the international association of detective political novel. members who were, well, the most prominent writers of the detective genre in the world. ilian semenovich semenov, not just a master of the detective genre, and not just a completely unusual, extravagant figure of the soviet writers' society, he was also

a person who differed fundamentally from his colleagues, not in his writing style, not in his approach to writing, but in his views in general on the universe, on the prospects of his beloved country. i say without any irony, his beloved country, because he loved the country, despite the fact that his father was repressed, he himself, of course, also had, as it were, serious enough complaints about the system in the soviet union, the system not only in the writers' workshop, but also... in general, there were questions about freedom of speech, well, it's a commonplace that everyone was grumbling about it, but he is the man who broke through this wall, i will say it again... he created the first private publication in the soviet union, top secret. in september

2023, 30 years have passed since yuliana semenova passed away, but then in 1993 his heart simply stopped, and he died long before that, in 1989, since 1989 he was able, well, what is called, as i don't... it hurts to talk about it, because i just loved and love, it was in a vegetable state, it was actually liquidated, why and how, i will tell you today: the newspaper, top secret, arose as such an experiment, yegor ligachov, who then in the soviet union supervised the entire press and the entire ideology in general, categorically objected to the ideas of private.

here the owners of the newspaper were us, the employees, the first employees of this publication, we were called shareholders, no one understood what it was, no one was particularly proud of this knowledge and did not understand in general the essence of it, i was personally interested in what my salary would be, whether i had any share there, how many percent of this newspaper belonged to me, i was the first full-time employee, that is, i was the first to risk leaving... officialdom, i was working at that time in the magazine smena, the organ of the central committee of young communist leagues, he

offered me to move to him, our editorial office was located in the safe house of the security agency on what was then kalininsky prospekt, now it is novy arbat, his friends from the ministry of internal affairs assured that all the listening equipment had been confiscated from the apartment, that we could there to have. from gru, well, in general, many journalists of apnna worked for this organization,

apparently he really was this gruza, never asked him questions directly, sasha, he joked, but in any case , he had organizational skills and had some kind of special grabs, because he brought a couple of his acquaintances, who nevertheless discovered two wiretaps in the kitchen in the office of the most ... the apartment was built so that one room was the office of yuliana semenova, where the meeting of the editorial board of the fly-in was held, the second room was the secretariat and the third room was like that, well, for the editorial office, in general, two wiretaps were confiscated, yulian semenovich got very angry and turned to the general who actually rolled out this room, he apologized, said that it was a flaw, well, that's how we all laughed. no one really bothered about it, only one photograph has survived,

where - yulian semenovich is captured with sasha pleshkov, this is to the left of yulian semenovich semenov, this is alexander, and our editorial board members, this is actually, the photo was taken in that very office of yuliana semenova, that is, in that room where a number of the boards went, alexander pleshkov. was a very close associate of yulian semenov, not because he worked at gru, but because he was his like-minded person in a professional , journalistic sense, they understood the concept of the publication in the same way, the layout of this publication was invented by your humble servant, as they say, so we drew it there with the artist, the emblem and the name came up with himself... and the entire pilot issue was done there by only three or four

person, as i remember, dmitry likhanov, my colleague and long-time comrade sasha pleshkov. well , naturally, yulian semenovich semenov himself, who rolled out a bunch of materials that, as i believe, were leaked to him by friends from the special services, and things went, that is, returning to how i used my official position, and so the newspaper was printed in moscow, but since it was printed on such a special pardoned paper, which could be like a matrix, there were no computers, then newspapers were printed like this... with a matrix, it is important to understand, then i invited to host the most popular program at that time, the program "viewpoint of the youth editorial board of central television", and it had a huge audience, it was aired once a week, i hosted several episodes at the invitation of my co-hosts together with them, in

each of these episodes i was in the final tryazgaz there was no advertising at all on television, this is on all television. there was no advertising at all, that is, the idea that it was possible to somehow monetize airtime did not occur to anyone, i remember there was such a thing there episode, it's a little bit not top secret, and about advertising, that some pretty clever guys from the ocean, who were located on brighton beach, they started making sweatshirts with the words perestroika, there's glasnost, and so they gave us these...

i, as a shareholder, didn't understand this, because i still didn't care what a share was, but there were people who understood the situation, but more about them later, we came back, this is a podcast, chronicles of the end of times, and we're talking about yulian semenovich semenov and his brainchild , top secret, at some point yulian

semenovich thought about the need to expand, that is, to make not just one newspaper, but to make several. newspapers, perhaps to publish a magazine, and since sasha pleshkov , his right hand and first deputy, was very busy with organizational issues on expanding this printing base, he was constantly rushing around on business trips, now there, now to one republic, now to another, establishing these contacts, it was decided to invite a person who is quite well versed in the media, in the western media,

an american journalist, and i remember this meeting in the central house of writers, the four of us, me, dima likhanov, veronika khelchevskaya, artem borovyuk's wife, artem sat and for 3 hours we were rubbing all this, we were persuading him to our own detriment, not suspecting it with dima, so that he would come as a deputy to yulian semenov. in the end, artem agreed. began to work on the issue of creating, in particular the newspaper version and the magazine faces, which later appeared in the holding top secretly, but already without pleshkov without semenov, because sasha pleshkov was killed in paris in april of eighty-nine, sasha went

there to deal with the so-called gold of the party, now no one remembers this phrase, then in the late eighties it was quite a noisy story in the media, they discussed it in kitchens, the talk was about the fact that people who understood that the soviet union would collapse, not... inevitably, they took resources, the so-called gold and foreign exchange, to the west in order to then come with money, and well, do what they did, that is, buy up factories, entire industries, there was a very curious the selection system that pleshkov talked about, in the same group, let's say, some resident, some intelligence officer was given a budget for, let's say, creating some pharmaceutical company that would be a cover for our work, for the residents, or it doesn't matter, for some business, and

people watched carefully how he would use this money, some spent it, invested all this money in business there, as it were, well, taking into account of course some salaries for themselves and so on, and some stole, well, that is, they created business, but these people were taken into account there as promising in the center, that is, they were invited and told, well, we all know how many there are, how many there are, you work very well, that is, you are a promising person , just keep in mind that we all know, they were counting on these people, as those who would then build, in fact, a new society, as enterprising people, and not blinkered. and such ideologically single-vectored people, who did not think about themselves, about themselves, but thought only about work, not without

bitter irony sarcasm, pleshkov is told, and so there was an idea to generally take up this party gold, that is , to generally expose this system, in paris we had acquaintances, when i say, we, i mean the editorial board of top secret, in particular froncois moreau - this is a french journalist who admired semenovich semenov, wrote essays about him, considered him a man of the future, but new russia, and he worked for the vsd magazine, this is friday, saturday, sunday, it was a very popular publication in france in those years, about like the little fire at us in those same years, and he said that his management, the management of this magazine. could offer sensational material for top secret, well, sasha pleshkov went there, he had breakfast that day with

eduard limonov, who lived in paris and who, by the way, thanks to pleshkov and yulian semyonov returned as a writer to russia, because it was we who began to publish him top secretly, he was still so banned. but the end of times was already approaching, everything was changing, banned names appeared in the press on television forbidden topics, by the way, there is a photo, i have it in my archive, where yulian semenovich is talking to eduard in our office, of course, eduard limonov has nothing to do with the elimination of sasha pleshkova, naturally, other people did it, it just so happened that... i had breakfast with him in the morning, then he met with the vsd leadership. the french were ready to sell this information, but at the prices that were completely normal

for the western media, where are there millions of francs, well, there was no euro back then, they were ready to pay for sensational materials, we naturally didn't have that kind of money, it was just not in the media, there weren't even any advertising budgets, not only on television, but in newspapers too... at first there was no advertising, but the vsd leadership, as yuliyan semenovich semenov assumed, they kind of burned some of the information and told sasha about who exactly in france, in particular in the west , was engaged in accumulating funds withdrawn from the soviet union for further investment in the economy of the new russia, in short. sasha pleshkov had dinner with the french, returned to the hotel felt very bad, he tried to call a doctor

from the soviet embassy, ​​the doctor did not come, he went down to the lobby, when the party saw that he was a hotel guest bleeding from all the holes, from the nose, ears, mouth, he called the doctors, but it was too late, completely, he was brought to moscow to tsinkov. coffin, the conclusion of the french doctors was more than strange, that is, it said that he was poisoned, it was not clear with what, yulik, as they called him, all of us editors behind the back, naturally semenovich, because in eyes called semenovich, but affectionately called him yulik. yulik was completely crushed by this story, because he understood that to a certain extent he himself, so to speak, by giving this order and opening this pandora's box, sentenced his deputy to such a rather tragic fate, and he decided to quickly

completely... get rid of the publication, or rather, not get rid of it as such, but bring it to the international arena, he entered into an alliance with merdeka, with rupert merdeka, an american media magnate and decided to start what called collaboration, in the presumption that if it is a soviet-american publication, it will be easier, in particular, it will be possible to find money to buy the information that the french offered us, the representative of merdeka agreed to come to moscow.

by the way, she did not have any guards, any security, that was the mood in general, no one bothered there about the car, except for the driver, i repeat, i artem borovik himself yuliana semenovich semenov, the meeting with the representative of merdeka was planned there on ship on the moscow river. and during this trip with e. yulik, he had a stroke, that is , he had a stroke, so naturally, the meeting did not take place, we went to the hospital, and at that time i was filming a film about yulian semyonov, my friend olivia lichtenstein, whom i met when she was working on a film called prostitutes, and aputa... we

met then, i went to london there for dubbing and so on, so she started this cycle about the new people of the soviet union, not new russians, but new people, there svyatoslav fyodorov was there, kuryokhin and yulian semyonov, i think there were already three films released in this series by that time, comrade comrades, so she was filming a movie based on my script at...

and dima told me, well, seeing that my englishmen were filming, he told me, what are you, are you nuts, well, he used foul language, but i thought that i really was nuts, because our beloved man, he was drooling, his gaze was cloudy, he just, well, the picture was not the most attractive, i asked olivia to stop filming, she said harshly that zhenya. you are not a professional, and i i say, i'm not a professional, i ask you to stop filming, by the way, i later discussed this episode with many masters of domestic television, i told them, there was such an episode, didn't i go crazy, they say, you should have continued filming, if you are a journalist, you work, you record, because you don't think about yourself, about your emotions, you think about

recording this or that... as a reporter, you report, you don't lie, there is no analytics here, you record, because later you can figure out what happened to do with this material, and if there is no material, then there is nothing to do with them, and so i realized that i am not a professional, so since then i prefer to introduce myself as a media ideologist, and not a journalist, in short, this filming was stopped, well, that is, they did not film yulian semenovich, the british filmed. they filmed me, dima likhanov, artem boroev disappeared immediately, he went somewhere, somehow they pumped out tovich, he ... at least mumbled something, said something not very distinctly and well, in any case , in his gaze there was something there and he at least it was clear that he recognizes people. so we left him in the hospital, came the

next day and the nurse came, i came with the english from olivia likhmenstay's group, and the nurse said that two people came at night, they didn't even put on white coats, they just showed their id and talked to syulyan semenovich semenov, after that no one talked to him anymore, in the sense that he became, well, in such a state that he could only cry, and well, in general, olivia took all this off, she took off this nurse for her honor, because she was the first once she shook, but for a soviet nurse 100 pounds sterling was... there was almost half a year's salary, then in eighty -nine, here she told all this, when i saw off olivia sheremetyeva, they tried to confiscate these tapes from her, she did not fly on these flights, she called

the british embassy on sofiyskaya embankment, some people arrived there, then she flew away the next day, but she managed to get the originals, only in 2021 in the summer i met her in spain, she handed over here these sources are kindly for me, they were used in the creation of the documentary film of the first channel about yuliyan semenovich semenov, and yuliyan semenovich semenov was in this state for some time until september of ninety-three, that is , for another 4 years, and here it is very... such a cool, relatively speaking, moment, a moment that i considered it necessary to talk about in the work that we did together with olga yulianovna semenova, the daughter of the youngest daughter

of ilyana semenovich semenov, this is exactly in spain while working on the film about yuts, where all these things were said. two stars. fathers and sons, tomorrow on the first, blossomed, apple trees of toys, fogs floated over the river, let them run, on the left, clumsily, pedestrians, through puddles, go round the asphalt by the river, i whip my horses, whip them. i drive them, lelishki, leli, for a handkerchief and a vtonochik, i give that at night soaked me,

from september 6 on the first, we returned, this is a podcast of the chronicle of the end of times, and we are talking about yulian semenovich semenov and his brainchild top secret, all issues of the project you can find the podcast lab on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru, so, the thing is, i repeat, it was the soviet union, nowhere in the world, including the soviet union, there were any. there was no internet, there was no mobile communication either, so when a person went on a business trip, and yulian semenovich semenov went on business trips very often, so that work in the editorial office did not stop, and in general in

the holding, he inserted such a pack of forms with the logo top secret with his signature, where you could type in any order, put any date and as if for his signature. it came into force, well , it was assumed that he would return from a business trip, if something wrong was imprinted there, it could be recalled and disavowed, no one could have imagined that a situation would arise when a person was alive before yura, no, his heart did not stop, he is still alive, but de facto he is a corpse, de facto he can’t do anything.

but one of them, olga, with whom we were working, lived and still lives in the city of paris, and the eldest, dasha, she is an artist, she was completely far from these, she had her own family, her own problems, her own tragedies. was infinitely far from

these property showdowns, in short, the holding ended up with artem borovik, which was generally not bad, because in fact, artem was younger and much more advanced than yuliyan semenovich, firstly, he did not suffer from all these complexes, relatively speaking, i think that yuliyan semenovich semenov would have been on this path to creating a holding. would have been much longer and not so confidently, because it was under artem borovik that the version, the newspaper and the magazine appeared persons, in general - in general, the advertising service appeared, that is, the holding flourished, but already practically without semenov, i remember how they kept - in september of ninety-three iliana semenovich, it was a very rainy day. such and weiner, his competitor and comrade-in-arms,

writer, detective, very famous, said that we discussed a completely different story, so we remembered something, then a few years later, when vladislav listyev, the first head of ort channel one, was shot, and ... weiner, recalling this story, said that you must be so often close to the coffin are the murderers, i don't know what he meant, because somehow there was no time for it, actually it didn't interest me then. all these things, they are actually, as if in a narrow professional crowd , are not a secret for anyone, there was even once another date in the central house of writers.

unnecessary, so to speak, this, i don't know whether to say, quality or lack, to be surprised, that is, i can't learn to perceive information impartially , i can't get rid of this all the time broadcast it, which of course interferes with my work, but allows me to think that i am not condemning my soul to death, that the soul is immortal. not because he created these works, not because stirlitz is still known, even those people who do not know who ilion semenovich semenov is, saw 17 moments of spring, and i think what would have happened if pleshkov had not gone to paris then, so that it would have been top secret, but so that it would not have been top secret, it was obvious that the vector... along which the country is moving, is no longer change, so that it would be a country, it was already

decided without yulian semenovich semenov and without journalists, the main drawback of yulian semenovich semenov. with all his merits, that he was also a person, when i say, i also mean myself, this is perhaps the only thing we have in common, that we were naive, because of course i would never risk comparing the scale of talent, charisma , but he was also naive and also assumed that through some agreements, through publications, through the publication of books, it is possible to influence the powers that be in total, but... he did not belong to such, although undoubtedly, having created the first private publication, he contributed to the end of times, although i remember arguments with him, he objected in every possible way to some, i was always on the bull's side, i wanted some kind of investigative journalism,

to write something to expose, i had some material about hazing, and he told me, you can't, you can't. at the end of times understood about the end of times much better than i did, it was a podcast about the elimination of yulian semenovich semenov, my name is evgeny dodolev, this is the chronicles of the end times.