but the ceremonial assemblies, and also class hours, a conversation about important things, about patriotism will be only tomorrow. 18.5 million students will go to school, almost 2 million of them will sit at a desk for the first time. classes from this academic year will be held with some innovations, smartphones, smart watches, tablets must be handed in during lessons, gadgets can only be used during breaks or during lunch. in labor classes, they will now study computer graphics , 3d printers and 3d pens will appear in the arsenal of schoolchildren. and that's all, until the meeting, there was a topic, i don't know, do you want whether you talk about it or not, but it seems to me that it would simply be wrong in front of the audience if we didn’t touch on this topic, i mean the cruel romance, of course, rezanov gave me a name, gave me a surname, if it weren’t for this film, where would i be, and how did you get there, there were auditions, so rezanov arrived.

vadim alisov, the chief cameraman, arrived for the graduation performance, i was removed from the role for bad behavior, i was supposed to play adelina in fan-fan tulpan, yeah, well, since i skipped rehearsals, because there was already then saigon, all this was, and i played one of the chambermaids, i had a very strained relationship with the course, when rezanov arrived with alisov, they were at this performance, and we were sitting in the smoking room, then we knew that at, that rezanov arrived and... the cameraman was coming and that they would be, that they were looking for a girl, a heroine, but i knew that they came to look at me, and naturally, i play there such a small episode as a chambermaid, i couldn’t, i didn’t know that they would approve me, but why be a laughing stock, then i already went to moscow for an audition, there were auditions a lot, the last audition was already with nikita mikhalkov, and rizanov told me, in 2 days at least the council, i want you to film, i don’t think that... the art council will

argue with me, i flew in, came to st. petersburg, there was a call, they told me that you were approved, i said, they won’t believe me, yes, because it was already graduation, i say, and you can send me a telegram, and i went up to petrov and said, vladimir viktorovich, in general, i was approved for the traitorous krizanova, he thought that i was delirious, because i was not at all gudalova, that's right, that's from the word completely, well, there was no heroine with a long braid, long-eyed , one who cried, there, no, i was from another trade union, so ryazanov taught me to walk, wear a dress, hold my back, and from ryazanov you have in general, it was good to work with him, when you are from the orenburg region, next to you is alisa freundlich, nikita mikhalkov, proskurin, well, by the way, vitya to a lesser extent, because he was not as old as it seemed to me, lyudmila gurchenko, who starred in this film, because it was based on ostrovsky, then her line was cut. i saw, by the way,

fragments from your podcast, where you talk about how she gave you advice about eyebrows, about your last name , everything else, yes, it's very interesting psychologically i've never talked about it, i only hinted at it on that podcast, it was the first time in my life, well , the film came out, fame fell on you, that is , you've already been through fire and water, apparently, it was a bummer, there was no fame, because there is no criticism, criticism of me destroyed criticism, i remember when i was a young man watching.

i know about this, you say, you don’t even understand what kind of rumor there is among actors, they’ll stop filming, you say, control yourself , these are some kind of human lessons, i remember this, and then they approved me for mashchenko on - on kanun, and where my mother was supposed to play the wonderful elena solovey, and my father yuri bogatyrev, and one great actor told me, why do you need costumes again, no need, why are you repeating yourself, filming in those

distant times, so at the beginning of 2000 you played in the film the heiress, if i'm not mistaken, yes with your son, yes, that's what family is for you, children, well, let me tell you for the first time. also yes, because somehow i always keep quiet about it out of some kind of modesty, mom, what will people say, somehow i don't want that anymore, so i came up with the story of the heiress, and marina mareeva wrote down this story on a napkin, i played it for everyone, because when i came to moscow, i only had friends tamara akulova and vera glagoleva, just like my here are my girlfriends, close ones, my husband found the money, i told marina this whole story, and katya... who was the administrator of the film at musfilm, she became the producer of this film, they found the money, and this is my story, i made it up, and my son naturally starred, and how old was he there, about six years old, probably difficult to star,

it wasn't difficult, no, and would you like your children to follow in your footsteps, no, i somehow don't have such a thing, to beat you in the face and speak only over my dead body, and god forbid. as all the actors say, that you don't go there i need to, i don’t know, i’m a bit cold, probably, what right do i have to go there at all, you’re my mother, you gave me such freedom, and she gave me begged you to finish, yes, she gave me such freedom in choice and so she always supported me, what if i forbid my children something or, on the contrary , advise them, no, that never happened, the only thing is, when my son wanted to enter the conservatory in the guitar class, his father said, well, you’re unlikely to become one? she’s much more talented than me, many times over, but she doesn’t like this profession, she chose, she make-up artist, well, also, probably, she is only 24 years old, she is also looking for something somewhere, no,

we have absolutely no freedom, i don’t drag anyone anywhere, well, okay, and if we also talk about your filmography, what kind of work in cinema would you name for yourself the most important, dear? successful, happy people, these are happy actors who can talk about this in all seriousness and give themselves grades, well, where did you enjoy filming, it’s interesting i really loved igor aposhyan, he was my friend, that’s who filmed in the series maroseyka, indian summer, i am not ashamed of myself there at all, i even received some prizes, and he shot the graffiti, you know, i am very grateful to you for this film, because when i was preparing for our program, i watched this film, which i unfortunately had earlier...

the plot is that a young moscow artist, who has done some mischief here in moscow, had a row with his, well, in general, he is studying at the institute to be an artist, had a row with the rector, with the dean, i don’t know, and he leaves for a remote village, there to the village intermediate, it's called, there were shoots, as i understand it, in the ryazan region, yes, and they make him an order, to make such a panel on the cultural center and depict the main people in this, there it is no longer a collective farm, not a state farm, it is already, probably, a perestroika. she comes with a portrait of her father, who died in the war, and says: i agree to be painted, only if i have this portrait in my hands, he paints her, when it

appears, other residents of the village find out about it and also bring photographs of their dead in during the war, there in the chechen war, in the afghan war, their dead relatives and they ask him to... so that people would find it, watch it, and really, it seems to me, one of the best films ever made at the beginning of this century, well , okay, but tell me please, what wind, what fate brought you to television, how did it happen that you ended up in this television world, how much of a tagger it is i'm

interested, how much the world of television differs from the world of cinema, different worlds in general, everything is just, everything is different, for example, you know, well i have already married, so to speak, successfully to... a very wealthy man and i think, what happiness, i will have children, because i am already old, i am 38 years old, i need to have time, everything is fine with me, a big house, in general... waste and i was already so good at 40, and suddenly they invite me to try out for this program, let's get married, i watched, i think, my god, what in general, where am i and where is television, no, so somehow i went to these auditions with persuasion, it was 15 years ago, 16, 16 already, and they approved me, but i absolutely could not work with an ear and a prompter, because i'm straight and... "hello, well, this was such a test for me, and they allowed me

to work without an ear and without a prompter, and somehow everything went well and a year later there were already ty all these years you work without an ear and without a prompter, yes , a year later there was tefi for the program as a host, in general such a renaissance happened closer to 50, do you like it, honestly i want to tell you, if there was probably another team, i would not have lasted so long, everything worked out here, we have absolutely in..." fantastically worked out relationships with my editors, with the producer, with the team in general, and somehow my girlfriends, the longing for friendship, i somehow disappeared , there was no time for this, i go to work with some joy, with great joy, because i suddenly found my people, and i feel good with them, it turned out that this is such a big part of my life, so important, that suddenly it became enough for me, everything somehow very... went round in circles, and maybe if i had come at 30, i would not have endured such a burden, there would have been no special

motivation, i became interested in this whole topic, i have shoveled through a huge amount of literature on psychology, because at 16 there is nothing special for a daily program, you need nourishment, there is nothing to work with, and this also affected, by the way , the relationship with my children, and still does, especially when today, well, everyone is going crazy, i was here in my homeland, when i do not humiliate any profession at all, but when a taxi driver already has his own psychologist, you see, a neighbor who is retired also has her own coach, well, it’s somehow, yes, she does something like that in the garden, but at she has her own coach, that's great, but i don't think so, because i always refute, i always say, no, no, no, let's get out of this already. space where they tell you how to live, how to separate from someone, and in general about your own territory, about

your personal one, you want a living person again, yes, with some doubts, complexes, passions, who live incorrectly, who make mistakes, it's interesting with such, with those who have been worked through, i don't even know, they are like dead, i don't know how to talk to them, because they have a ready answer for everything, they immediately put their hand out and say, no, this is for you. no, soviet counterintelligence has established that a foreign intelligence agent is operating in moscow, the chekists only know the agent's call sign, trianon. nagonii is on the verge of a coup, if agana overthrows griso, the americans will immediately deploy their bases. the committee's leadership expects the most decisive action from us. please forgive this message, and tell me if it looks like a fake or not. you, vitaly, fly out urgently. louisbourg, we need to find the author letters, he is a kgb colonel, here under his own

name, report to me about every step of this slavin. it is necessary that the fleet be redeployed on the day and hour when we begin our operation, which we called fak. this kind of intensity of work is possible only on the eve of events. and here in africa the russians are to blame for everything. we are only interfering in order to keep them out. yesterday london transmitted very interesting comments about nagonia. 1-2-year anniversary of das. this is undoubtedly the one you are looking for. the legendary multi-part film based on the novel by yulian semyonov. tas authorized to declare. today on the first. over the last 7 years, there have been 17 hostage takings. i will blow myself up. this is understandable, unfortunately, the statistics are not encouraging. shut up

everyone, from this second you are all hostages, have you gone crazy, these are children? my name is zaitsev, gennady nikolaevich, i am the head of the operation to free your children, if you do not show the brightest, most decisive ones in the near future... what the hell do we need you for, the path is difficult, there are many enemies around, try to figure out who is who. if necessary, we would you were not asked, they appointed you, that's it, go to work, and i'm asking you, are you taking on this case or not, i'm taking it on, stepan, what are your demands, to begin with we demand eight machine guns, can you hear me, eight, eight,

uncle, please save my friends, if any of the children get hurt, our negotiations will lose their meaning, get ready for the assault, premiere, commander, soon, on the first, i wonder, over these 16 years that you 've been working in this program, you've seen a huge number of people who've passed through, probably more than one really.

so i dive in, i pass it through myself, but memory protects you, but there are, for example, well, maybe two dozen people whom i will never forget, who teach you, who give you some kind of oxygen and answers to your questions, they somehow pull you out of this torment, when you are just like in a dream, you can’t get out of it in any way, they don’t help you at all, suddenly a woman comes and explains a couple of phrases to you using her example, and you can remember something specific, yes, for example, there was a woman. came with her daughter, who, i understood that she was crippling her, she had already crippled her, just an unhappy girl, quite a pretty , very active, mother, who did not let her say a word, who simply turned her into some kind of domestic animal, and i thought that i would have a stroke on the program, she doesn’t

throw around such words, yes, i had a hypertensive crisis, i was sitting there red as a crimson, my blood rose yes... i just felt bad, i wanted to take this girl to live in my home, it was some kind of hell, and it was her it is impossible not to shout down, not to convince anything, and an absolutely, absolutely broken heroine, who came here as a bride, so i told myself that i will never be so active, never, although my child was at that time, well, maybe 12-13 years old, and i just retreated from her, well , you see, it's never, but not literally yes, here you saw, talked about something and you are exactly word for word. thanks to these people, who, and what happened to this girl, by the way, she was with us again on the program, and also came with her

this crazy mother, well, this is some kind of hell, this hell is just on the internet, even somewhere... the poor kitten, well, it dies, you do something, but this was such a situation , that is, there were such situations, well, if we talk about it, this is a really interesting topic that concerns russia and the whole world, this is how to raise children, yes, the relationship between children and parents, you probably have your own view on these things, this is what we do this way, not that way, you know, but it seems to me,

this is our russian passion, desire, like max frisch, remember, santa cruz, you wanted. not just in my heart, you wanted to enter my dreams, well , something like that, we want to enter every cell of the body, our lover, husband, girlfriend, i don’t know, children, there are a lot of us in each other’s lives, this is in relation to children, i think, a huge mistake, we don’t just immerse ourselves in them, we don’t just stick to them, we don’t give them air, we don’t give... we don’t give them the opportunity to breathe, because we have been taught by some terrible experience, especially mine generation, yes, which has been through so much, all the time we want to lay down for them everywhere, like just run ahead and...

inattentive, terrible, that's why i 'm jealous of my friends, i want to be their only one, children, mother, i, i tortured my husbands, i don't know, with this love of mine, until i started reading the right literature, i don't follow, i don't blindly act, and i realized what my problem is, but it's good that i realized it earlier, and i've already begun - as if to project onto my mother, i think, like she is, a person who has never in her life i talked to... one psychologist, i haven't read a single book on psychology, that 's how she, where did she get this wisdom, to give my brother and me so much freedom, keeping her finger on the pulse, that is, helping if asked, yes,

participating, if you turn to her, and she was never a weight, neither for me nor for my brother, i realized that i have so many friends, children in my life that i need to take a few steps back, in time, with my son, i probably squeezed it all the same, with my daughter i somehow had enough brains for a year, it seems to you, this is our russian property, our russian, yes, there is no such thing anywhere, listen, and my son is now 32 years old, and i just choke myself , so that no, and he is a wife, yes, since 17, they are together with a girl, i already then, well, as if i read, analyzed, looked, drew conclusions, i gave birth to him at 32, so i was already like this... not very stupid, and i gave birth to a daughter at 40, that is, my children are lucky that i weakened a little in the reins, it seems to me that this is the first mistake, ae in relation to

children, the second, well, the second is also from the same series, you can't give what you're not asked for, then blame them for it, i devoted my life to you, i did everything so that you could study so that i could buy you, a fool, an apartment, look, i'm 35 years old now, and i'm already... limping, squinting , sick, i'm getting drunk and so on, no need, you still need to do everything a little at a distance, it seems to me that this is the main thing, now it's stupid, maybe i'll say, if you have extra money, help, give just don't ask, don't interfere, don't control, here's control this shouldn't be, really, and of course education, education and health, i told all my children, i will turn a blind eye, as my mother said, to your bad behavior, the main thing is to study well. read, study well, i will turn a blind eye to this, and i also tell my children: study, read, take care of your health, well , it seems to me, the most important thing, and i also want to ask you about the podcast, since you and i both

happen to be hosts of the podcast, this idea of ​​a podcast letters, how did it come about, it was your idea katya muravitskaya, my producer creative, let's get married, who is simply my younger sister, she is simply a part of me, we even look very similar, she is just mine, here is my love, she tells me, here is such a story: a letter prompt, let's try, but i have a hard time going into new projects, i have a bunch of complexes that i can't handle it, i won't succeed, and i 'm just going crazy, i say, no, no, no, no, no, i don't like everything new, trying, starting, i'm afraid, i won't succeed, let it be someone else, that's it, she says, well what, well, it won't work, it won't work, well, shoot the tests, so what, you'll refuse, so we recorded a number of programs, yes, in these podcasts of yours, who was most interesting to you, and who did you say, here i am...

i remember from your heroes, heroines, i was very interested with sveta kryuchkova, she is very close to me, we talked about tsvetaeva, well, sveta simply knows everything about tsvetaeva and even more, although she herself played akhmatova, yeah, well, tsvetaeva is her love, so i was interested, such an interesting one the classic question, who is closer to you, tsvetaeva or akhmatova, you know, i would prefer not to know their biographies, strange as it may be, because in me, reading this and knowing about them , you...

are like a desert island, tsvetaeva or akhmatova, which book would you take? akhmatova, i read a lot of her at the institute, well, then she is from st. petersburg, yes, yes, she somehow has less of this nerve of hysteria, yes, like tsvetaeva, less, she, you can’t say, but she is more intelligent, no, you can’t say, well, i don’t know, you can say everything that you like, but akhmatova is of course such an absolute queen of russian poetry, such, yes, regal, everything falls away absolutely.

it was very interesting, it seems to me, unusual, thank you very much for this conversation, it is true at least for me, but i think for our viewers, who are probably used to seeing you in a slightly different guise, that is why thank you for your frankness for this conversation, in connection with your birthday, yes, allow me to tell you, thank you very much, yes, i'm sorry that i was not cheerful, perky,

dreaming, perky have seen you many times. let him see you like this, thoughtful, a little bit self-absorbed, it's really very interesting. thank you. hello, this is the badden baden podcast, and i am its host konstantin severinov. today our guest is a virologist, academician of the russian academy. we were going to talk about seasonal diseases with you, but i would like to start with a conversation about the world health organization, since you have been an expert and representative of russia in this organization for a long time, recently there are many people who doubt its

expediency, could you tell us what... what were you doing there and what do you think about the cart in general? you know, the first time i went to the world health organization in geneva, it's scary to think in 1987-88 , i was still representing the soviet union, we were invited by a large number of specialists to develop rules for testing vaccines against venereal infection, because then we were already literally 3 years after the discovery. more and there were scientists speaking there who said that the vaccine it's almost ready, we just need to test it properly, lawyers were invited there , there were social workers, and i participated in the scientific part, that's where the scientific justification is, yes, that's how the vaccine works, doesn't work, we wrote these rules, well, you see, how many years have passed, yes,

there is no vaccine in general, as it turned out, and in front of us, he says, there are about 20 people,

elephant pox, monkey pox, which was there, crocodile pox, there is a lot of it, but the smallpox we are talking about, natural smallpox, it's called, it only affects people therefore, when the last person was cured, the population was vaccinated, everything was signed such a declaration that it was called eradication, that is, eradication, it was completely eradication, so this is good, thank god, and of course they stopped it back then, they stopped the vaccinations, the museum remained, because they collected all the variants that were isolated from different regions of the world, our scientists, american scientists and... the states of america, in our institute, because our institute played the leading role in the elimination of the remaining

moscow, well, as everyone was saying, there is a museum 2 km from red square, so we transferred our museum to novosibirsk in the vector, there are special conditions for working with... such especially dangerous viruses, although such conditions were not created at our institute either, we had a special block where they worked with this virus, and the assembly had to make a decision to liquidate these museums, then , as if smallpox does not exist on earth at all, but when we were collecting this one for the first time, and you were for what, you were against it, well, that's it you know how it happened when the first committee was assembled to make such a decision.

in a slightly changed composition, including me, i ended up on this very committee together with our employee from the marennikov institute, she is a famous scientist who...

we will never know this again, we will not see it, this is the first, second, we have not studied it to the end, there are a lot of interesting genes and products and proteins, yes, this virus secretes, which may be useful to humanity

in the future, thirdly, i was absolutely sure that the americans will remain museum, the military fordetrick, in general, if this is poker, then someone can bluff, you see that now pro... go with the so -called monkey pox, but this is not monkey pox at all, this is not monkey pox, this is smallpox of rodents, ground squirrels, we just imagine a monkey with a banana in his hand or paw, yes, and they eat like people, that is, they have this kind of they get infected from these ground squirrels, and then people get infected, that is, if there is smallpox of rodents that a person can get sick with, then this indicates that, that someday something like this could suddenly happen, that...

i went to determine those strains that need to be protected from those variants in the next season, please explain what this means, look, the thing is that the flu virus, that's when a pandemic begins, it begins.

variants of the flu virus, and in birds - these are dozens, so in southeast asia there is such a cuisine, where people, pigs and birds live together quite closely, this is such a cuisine, where, this is another feature of the structure of the genome of the flu virus, each gene separately, and if two different... viruses get into one organism, there is a rare probability, but it exists of the exchange

of individual genes and a new flu virus is obtained, this is the first case, the second is the flu virus itself, it is passing through asia, through russia, through europe, this was the classic way before, now, since people travel on airplanes quite quickly, to different ends of the world, it can pass there much faster, yes, well, in this pot in which viruses are boiled, it is warm there all the time, there are seasons, well, if you don't count rains from no, and there are constantly new viruses that for some reason appear with us in the fall, or why does it come to us in the fall, in the fall and winter, yes, they are created, again for these viruses, why are they seasonal, yes, conditions are created, well , first of all, the human body, yes , when we get sick, when we get hypothermia, yes, when we have some, yes, when...

no, it's just that these are large, collected groups, yes, if one or two people get there, yes already with this virus, then the virus spreads very quickly, uh, and children bring it home, grandmas, grandpas, dads, moms get sick, it starts, yeah, that's it, and the flu is generally dangerous, here's how many people die from the flu in the world every year on average, you know, here's a very, history, look, we have...

diagnosed the flu, issued a sick leave, the patient did not recover, died, he is considered to have died from the flu. in america , they think differently, because the flu, we are now talking about coronavirus, yes, about post-covid syndrome, all that, and the flu is very dangerous for people with chronic diseases, if, for example, in america a diabetic after the flu died of diabetes within the next two weeks, he is considered to have died not from diabetes but from the flu, because if he had not encountered this virus,

he would have lived a long happy life on his medications, but the flu virus hit his immune system, his endocrine system so hard that his medication no longer worked, he died, well then, well, since we have half as many people living here as in the states, then we will assume that we have about 20 thousand people a year dies from the flu or its consequences, well , approximately the order, you know, i think it could be a little less - here it all depends on how many people we vaccinate, the fact is that in the last decades we have again taken the pre-covid period, yes, we have enough.

there someone asked for something, but usually no, because we did not produce the vaccine, yes, that is, so i did not need it, but the manufacturers did not receive it right away, that is, they then had to develop this version there, and they were given it and they calmly then on these options and still do so, now uh well we have the flu institute, which in general controls all this, as far as i know, but it nevertheless works on the recommendation.

the union will be able to create an atomic bomb, and pimberi thought said: "it's hard for me to name the term trumar" says: "and i know when, never". the creation of nuclear weapons required a gigantic concentration of forces, this is something new that had to be created in the shortest time. everyone was under great tension, 10, nine remained, i have no particular concern. in fact, the creation of the first rds-1 product is a warning of the third world war with a completely unknown result for humanity. atomic bomb, the personal business of man x. premiere. today on the first. in

the new season, on the first. there are already rumors in the city about this crime, where? you will go, about your find, this knot seemed to shoot in the back, i wanted to ask you about everywhere they say, women are lured into a taxi very massive, although it was easy enough, you are awarded a great honor, moles, honor and trust of the reich, remember this, i after war, i was looking for my son's comrades-in-arms, i was interested in what was happening there at the end of the war, and anything could have happened there, you don't have a photo of kolya, it's strange, where are they, were they here, oh my god, how similar he looks to my son, you are the only real witness, the only person to whom...