which is given to few, after all it is a divine power, right? this year marks the 125th anniversary of the birth of the remarkable soviet artist alexander dalneka, it is about him that we are talking today with my dear guest, the rector of the st. petersburg academy of arts, semyon ilyich mikhailovsky. who was his circle? when we talk about literature, it is very important who he was friends with, who he was friends against, who he was in conflict with. if we talk about this artistic world, how was it all?

so effectively, uh, it is drawn sensually absolutely yes, this is also what dna has , he always has some kind of sensuality and to write it in soviet times and obviously this red background, that is , here yes, it is absolutely obvious that this connection was reduced but on the other hand , what is beautiful about him, it is interesting that he made this window at the top and behind it, behind the window, there is a city and there are these flowers here in a red pot

so much of course she and the face, this silhouette and the face is almost invisible yes, but you feel her expression yes, this is the art of the face you don't see it and you're imagining it, that's why it seems to me to be a very strong work, we showed it in st. petersburg, it shows the connection between doneka and the past, on the one hand, on the other hand. art in the art of one movement, which can be in the world history of art somewhere. it as part

of a large world movement, despite the fact that he writes all the time about workers, collective farmers, peasants, athletes, and so on, warriors, and so on and so forth, but it's like, but it doesn't overshadow it, that's it artistic connection with some kind of creative direction, and you can draw a parallel with this famous sculpture of a working collective farm woman, well, they were in 1937, that is, this is still...

even at the paris exhibition of 1937, that is , this is his huge work that was shown there, you see, this, to see at the end of the pavilion, this is not here, they showed maikovskaya, there was also a model of maikovskaya station for which he made mosaics, that is , imagine that you mean you show all this in paris at the world exhibition, yes, just yes, this is called the day of the country of the soviets, yes and this is the day of the country of the soviets, that is, you go, it starts with dark then. light sky it changes, and mosaics, you know, where they did it at the academy of arts, and he did the same, mozaich, well, how would he, well, he didn’t lay them out himself, yes, that is, he made sketches, several sketches of takhmozei have survived, by the way, in our academy, artists have survived simply, then mozaichsts, those who worked, by the way, before the revolution in churches, yes absolutely. isaac, well, not that isaac

cathedral, they’ve probably already died, here, uh, a church the resurrection of christ, of course, here they are, that is, from the imperial mosaic, imperial, there they laid out, that is, icons.

i like it very much, he looked at the old masters there, well, he was not very well there, he writes there, well, i don’t know, we read letters, why, yeah, well, he wrote there that it was hard, i was suffering there, suffering, i can’t do it, well, everyone complained, and maikovskiy, i think, complained about america, and yesenin, yes, yes, but nevertheless, as if he existed there quite well, his works and paintings and there, i don’t know, gouache, and pencil have been preserved, whatever you want, and did he bring them here or did they all stay there? that is, he was valued here too, he is also recognized in the world, yes, well, not like that , yes, not like that he is absolutely the top, but in any case, who was the most valued of the then soviet artists in the world, well , i think that he, excuse me, let's say, koren, nesterov, well, and less, there are fewer of them, well, yes, less, it was not so interesting to western

viewers, less, yes, less, but this one is just really, and it was necessary to understand what it was, and this is just for this time, the twenties years, in the thirties, it was just in line with all the...

suffering, because when you watch denek, it practically doesn't have it, yes, it has such a harmonious world, yes, all the athletes are like that, here it's different, even the defense of sevastopol, there are athletes, yes, here, here, is the other side of the war, this is a different aesthetic, but that's what makes it beautiful, well, here, for example, this is a slightly recognizable character, this girl, yes, then, as far as i understand, after the war he began to have some difficulties, yes, when it went struggle with cosmopolitanism, with formalism, with all sorts of such forms of art. i think that it was simply an internal guild, that is, you had such a period there with him, yes there was thirty -seventh year, well, safely, yes thirty -fifth, trips there and so on and so forth, then here our war ended, this period and as if there was an opportunity, maybe

even almost was a rector, yes he was the head of something of a workshop there, i remember, then somehow jealousy within the guild, you understand, that's when they had these... meetings and in general they condemned and the artists also gathered meetings condemned absolutely yes, and how they had these plenary sessions were constant, who was the most important artist of the soviet union, the most important organizational alexander gerasim, alexander mikhailovich gerasim, he was the president of the academy of arts for many years, yes and yes, but then he was removed, yes, that is, then he was removed, and he was already completely debunked, yes he walks down the street and well, how is alexander there, i am like a rejected rembrandt. oh, like rembrandt, you understand, that is, too, here is gerasimov, such here is a happy life, there is a guy from kozlov, he goes to visit voroshilov, voroshilov elevates him to the academy of arts, he becomes the president of the academy of arts, anyone could become a grave-maker, but grobach went for this position, well, and

he reasoned, there is a mansion in moscow on prechestenka there or what kropot, no, he didn’t , gerasimov became, deniko could become, no, he couldn’t, why? well, he is still more of an artist, but what about an administrator, well , a grave-maker is also more of an artist, well, a grave-maker no, the retyakov gallery, restoration, so restoration after the war, cities, there he is such. you understand that these are fighting with these, it's inside, you understand, that is, first a signal is given from above, that like forward, and then

people themselves begin to sort things out inside, that is, it spins up, the can opens and from there all this, then it is impossible to put it back, that's after the war year there in forty-seventh year, when it began bo in general they gave the opportunity to gnaw at each other, as soon as the state opens, it says yes gnaw. everyone is happy to do this with different pretexts, that is, because he is there this one is not picturesque, that one is not graphic, that one is not a patriot, this one is something else and so on, okay, and if we return to daneki, here is the last period of his work, which ones can still be named, let's show them to the viewers on the screen now, yes, some of the most striking interesting works, late, well, from the late of the late works, well, for example, well , to be honest, well, here is the defense of sevastopol, probably, yes, well, this is not a late work, well, late there, well, the brightest, yes, from the post-war works, probably, it is,

well, but it is not late, but in any case there is such a tension in it, which he later, well, cannot achieve, yes, well because we can take these huge figures there, yes, this, but the strongest, yes, well, what kind of movement, and how is it written? it is some kind of levina's paw, just what is the special thing, they also tried to copy this work, it turned out that it says it is impossible to copy, it is impossible to repeat, that is , where is such a brush and where is such power and composition, again, how is it done impossible no soba you can repeat there in the drawing but here is this he wrote immediately some works would be 40 some year yes later later everything that is later it is somehow already weaker significantly well and...

with you i, its host and writer alexey varlamov, and my guest is the rector of the st. petersburg academy of arts, semyon ilyeevich mikhailovsky. but returning to this picture, it is also interesting if you compare it with future pilots, there is such an idyll, such a wonderful picture, very romantic, yes, with this aspiration in the future, age, these children are very important here, yes, although they are visible from behind, but it is clear that they are boys of different ages, he feels it very subtly and conveys it, yes, at the same time ,

it would seem that if this is the beginning of the thirties, yes, then the defense of sevastopol forty-second, 10 years have passed, these are the boys who will defend sevastopol from enemies, well, probably, yes, in the same crimea, therefore, i just read somewhere that denika responded so very much when it came to the great patriotic war, he responded to this the plot connected with the defense of sevastopol, that this land was very close to him, this city was very close to him, he loved it very much , so his heart responded so that...

exactly this work is recognizable, it is always right here everywhere in books, it is rightly, by the way, it is interesting how the defense of petrograd and the defense of sevastopol overlap, right?

a figure falls from the sky in such a canvas, yes , a vertical canvas, and this is a falling figure, well, how do you need to come up with it like this, do it like this, so that you just feel it what is happening before your eyes, yes , to show it in close-up and so on, well, tell me, were these also paintings made to order, someone took it for him, well, on the one hand, yes, on the other hand, he felt that today, this is needed, this is needed and it’s like, well, no, you can talk about artists, that they are in the sky, in their studios, they fall in love there and all that and all this is very good, but in reality, in this life, someone lived like that, well, konchelovsky lived like that, that is, among these fruits, portraits, landscapes, all that impressionism, such painting is just like that, and

danek has a different story, that is, each artist chooses for himself the direction that, that is, it seemed to him, he and the self-portrait. konchalovsky such a fur coat he had such prosperity, such a house, and you can say, here konchalovsky was happy, but also not like that, and they communicated with each other, they completely, but they all communicated, but how much, but i think that they were completely different in character, temperament, origin, everything, that is, this one is just that guy, that well yes, konchelovsky, he is such a family, it 's just that it was always important there, they had a family, a clan, that's it.

one there is from kursk, yes, the second from bezhetsk, both from the provinces and both made their way to the cities, yes, one to moscow, the other to petersburg, one is a teacher from favvor, the second is petrov votkin, a teacher, one, here is petrov votkin, an interesting figure, yes, this is, this is samokhvalov, this is such a petersburg line, and here is moscow, and he is from petersburg, moscow, when we made an exhibition of samokhvalovs we made it like a football match between moscow and yes. that's all, that was the whole story around that, that is , like a match, like a match, like the great danek and the great samokhvalov, one represents moscow, the other represents leningrad, and we had a football field, yes, the gates were there, the sculpture was there, right up to the frost, yes, there were stands, where we

held lectures and so on, and all of this was built like a football match between the two capitals. it's clear that they both ascended to olympus, yes, both are now in history, that's why there it is impossible to say who is better, who is better for someone in different ways, it depends on the mood, sometimes you also think, so some loud pictures, this is better, then and in time it passes, something else appears, eh, what you like or someone likes, or today this will be interesting to us, to us italian masters, how we loved giotta, there i smear.

how well how can we give advice to someone and how can we know that so that this is generally incomprehensible, that is, you can generally be, here somewhere to go not to stick out, then

this glory will come to you, and you will come glory, and you will die here, and this also happens, this also happens, here it is so, here he lived a life, thank god, such a big full worthy long life, long, that is, a long life, and the students are some kind of school of daina? and the students , so to speak, seriously, but they were at the surikov institute, when he taught, they were, but that someone could stand next to him or at least somewhere nearby or at least something nearby, it seems to me no, but the severe style, when it appeared, to me it seems that they are in some sense muscovites of the severe style, they can somehow be associated with it, that is, something, some connection can be found. between the artistic sixties, yes then yes, which then was the severe style, and somewhere here something here is some kind of severity or

such certainty, at least, in moscow there are some denika museums, there is an amazing museum in kursk, in kursk named yes, named da, a wonderful museum, a wonderful director, uh, a wonderful collection, many drawings, painting, now there is an exhibition there or already... there was or it is happening, dedicated just to the anniversary, they are very involved in heritage, they make books , hold conferences there and so on, so in kursk - it is just such a brand, yes, it is just a hero for them, well yes, in general now, by the way, in voronezh the same thing platonov, platonov festival, monument to platonov, i have been trying to put up a monument to platonov in moscow for so long, nothing works out, for moscow platonov, well and for varanezh well yes, who is platonov, right?

curator, rector, academician, and we were talking about the remarkable artist alexander alexandrovich deineka. hello, you are watching precious stories. my name is ekaterina varkan , and elena vinogradova is our guest today. "she came to us from voronezh, and it is not just like that, not far from voronezh there is an estate of the venevitinov nobles, now there is

the usadba museum, and elena was the first then the only employee of this museum, with the name of dmitry venevitinov, one of the most famous representatives of this family, the poet and the philosopher is connected, however, a very dramatic story, but very beautiful. in addition to a lot of advantages, he was very handsome, outwardly, such a first prince of the kingdom, so to speak, yes, indeed, he was a handsome man in the full sense of the word, tall, his huge blue eyes, framed by very long eyelashes, shone with intelligence, it would be unlikely to find such eyes in the world, one of his contemporaries wrote, well, here we see ... the portrait is absolutely remarkable, truly a beauty. dmitry was born into a respectable family had a good education? dmitry received an excellent education, in

which, of course, his mother anna nikolaevna, née princess bolenskaya, took part, who lovingly selected mentors and teachers for him. by the way, many of them were then teachers at the moscow imperial university. by the age of seventeen, dmitry venevitinov completed his home education, received excellent encyclopedic knowledge, he had a brilliant command of languages ​​and, in particular, the greek language, because his teacher, the greek baylo, taught him this subject, and he was not just a home teacher, he was a famous scholar, the publisher of plutarch, but we have a certificate that dmitry received at twenty.

did not have official crusts, they did not have, well, the right to enter the service, they were called minors, that's where this wonderful word comes from, moreover, those who did not serve, and therefore, well, many counts princes had a brilliant education, but did not have chickens, were also considered minors, and you can fantasize, say, how they sign some important papers, well, for example, a deed of sale or a will, and the minors write count or prince such and such, well, in general, it's quite funny.

but all, it means, parents, naturally, began to place their minors, well , young, naturally, people, youths, children, in higher educational institutions, here a lyceum was born, in the newborn lyceum, as we remember, it means, pushkin, well known to us, was immediately placed, but about home education, if we talk about it, then they all certainly played music very well, for some reason they all had talent, so i am surprised, but i have no talent, how much...

the big theater, such teachers and such worthy students, by the way, genisht brought him a love for beethoven, and he considered him a philosopher of music, in the consequences, well, and as for dmitry's musical compositions, his friends said that they wanted to publish his poetic experiments along with them and musical works, so perhaps there really will be new discoveries, work is underway, well

, yes, that means ... to the moscow archive in the collegium of foreign affairs, but here not for long, suddenly he needed to go to the gelatin nova in his estate, and he goes there to the memories of his childhood, indeed, he went with his parents to the estate in novozhivotino, he loved it very much, and you know, a very beautiful legend is connected with poe's stay in the estate in childhood, the legend of the butterfly, about pavleny

eye. it happened when mitenko was very small, and one day, walking in a large garden, he saw a magnificent creature that flapped its wings, flew from flower to flower, and dmitry asked his brother peter what kind of creature it was, he explained to him that it was a butterfly, pavleny eye, every morning began with dmitry running into the garden and he was looking for his girlfriend, and it was such an impression of his childhood, which he preserved and... to her a small poem in french, a small butterfly, fluttering from flower to flower, and it was so touching, they searched for this album in the forty-eighth fund, yes, we have it, we can

look, we know that... besides the musician, he was also an excellent artist, yes , we have portraits, his sister sonya and self-portraits, they are generally so wonderful and also at that time, apparently written, here is his sister sonya, whom he actually gave here... this pocket album is a self-portrait of the little mittiy himself, there is another version that this is not a famous artist, but it is surprising how a baby in the 1810s could perform such professional works, having abandoned his sister and supposedly himself, but in fact they are dated 1810, if dmitry was born in 1805, then how old was he at that time, well, the tenths, so to speak.

and they did not know russian at all, that is, absolutely, and they asked me to show and tell them about this house, about the people who lived here, but so that they would somehow understand, and they were all with notebooks, pens, writing down every word, they studied the russian language, the russian word, and had to understand where they ended up, the task was not an easy one, i tell you, well, somehow we advanced with them to...

it is amazing, of course, i want to say that dmitry venevetenov was a person whose consciousness was absolutely russian, a russian worldview, such, he was imbued

with these ideas, therefore when young people, having united in this society, secret, as they believed, in fact it was secret, no one knew about it i didn't know, they were going to talk.

you can read some kind of passion that was born in the young man in relation to this woman, in the house, it means, there were a lot of all sorts of wonderful famous people, it is very interesting the memories of prince vyazimsky

about how pushkin appeared there after exile in mikhailovskoye, when in september he came to moscow, the princess, knowing that pushkin would come sang for him and legion, the daylight went out , prince ya. we continue the conversation with our guest from voronezh, elena vinogradova, my name is ekaterina varkan, well, at least all these brilliant people, they created this famous legend of the book zinaida. yes, indeed, that's how it all happened, and volkonskaya is the queen of musa's beauty, truly, she created a magnificent, luxurious, european home in her house.

and there in the salon at the book, that's exactly where he probably first experienced those feelings, feelings that would later grow into his very deep passion for the queen of musa's beauty, into this love, but a suffering love, an unrequited love, because volkonskaya a... she, of course, noticed dmitry as

a very talented young man, promising great hopes, in the field of science, in the field of poetry, he had already shown himself as a poet, but he was also interesting in that he had deep judgments about art together they even agreed to create a museum of fine arts, but love, tragic love, and it was... you sang sweetly, why did i listen to you so

greedily, indeed, he listened to her so greedily, but everything ended differently, but we know that she gave him as a sign, well, of dislike, but in a sign of compassion, a ring, this is the famous veneviti ring, but about which legends come out, here it is, it is now in the literary museum in moscow, indeed, a pledge of compassion. this ring was presented to dmitry venevitinov, and for him, of course, it was the most valuable gift from princess zinaida, this gift will become his talisman, a true talisman of love, it has a very interesting history, because it was found in 1706 during excavations of the ancient city of herculaneum, and where - a book found it, now there are different versions, maybe she bought it in an antique shop, maybe...

you will be bequeathed, my ring, oh be my faithful talisman, protect me from the grave wounds of light and the insignificant crowd, well, somehow it was better

to foresee something more cheerful, i'll tell you honestly, but actually, all the same , she... with a smart handsome man, yes, with us, so to speak, regardless of her deep spiritual experiences, and of course, she attracts the attention of the secular public without any doubt, and many whispered in the corners, how can it not be that there were not some secret romances, that is, there were no obvious ones, but secret ones, well, there definitely were, and that means there were even contenders, one of whom was the bookish alexandra ivanovna trubetskaya, with whom they always whispered in corners, everyone thought that...

and the correspondence consisted of an amazing way , dmitry himself notes that at first they talked about german authors, then they talked about poetry, and then they got to philosophy, and thanks to... yes, indeed, they would have been a great couple, but thanks to alexandra ivanovna trubetskaya, we have a complete, as it were, system of dmitry venevitsyn's philosophy of life, which he bequeathed to us. our friend, then, mitya, he is busy, after all, with philosophizing, love of wisdom, he and his friends in the twenty-sixth year decide to publish a new magazine.

around this new magazine there arises such an ambiguous figure of sobolevsky, who was invited as a business person to participate in this magazine, apparently to help in some orc-moments, orc-questions, because everyone was love of wisdom, and a business person was needed, but this is such an ambiguous

figure, sobolevsky was known as pushkin's friend, he knew him through his brother lev, with whom he studied at a noble boarding school in petersburg, maybe, but pushkin made him famous anyway, made him famous, who would have known what sobolevsky said, he joked off the skit, everyone forgot, pushkin, evgenia anegen and the archive youth look at tanya choparino in a crowd and speak unfavorably among themselves in her presence, pushkin made sobalevsky famous too, well, as in general the whole world of all that.