and i want to inflict on him a kind of psychological trauma, that everyone can, but you can't, although he studies well, that is, on the other hand, we can allow him yes for his diligent studies, for his athletic achievements, but no, we have strictly regulated only an hour of everything, and what he does on the phone, what he does there, plays games, understandable, but well, the main request, as i understand it, is precisely that he wants to be like everyone else, or not, yes, yes, he wants that he did not have. such parental control, right from morning till evening the phone is accessible and that's it, and so when he plays on the phone for more than an hour, he has to send me a request so that i allow him to play for 15 minutes or some other amount of time, and i , accordingly, if he's played now, say, no, dear, you won't play anymore, this makes him angry, it makes him angry that he's interrupted while he's playing, he doesn't keep track of time, and he's carried away in the game and bam, that's it. you have such an interesting

school where the use of gadgets, because now in principle the law has been adopted at the federal level, everything is quite strict, but you allow it, we don’t really allow it, before classes children are required, if they come with a phone, to hand over the phone to the teacher, and after classes the teacher has the right to kind of give it to him, he goes to after-school, he doesn’t hand over the phone there, that’s why sometimes they of course all cheat, and i know this, and like, well, the child comes, the teacher tells him: come on... give me the phone, i don’t have a phone, she he won't reach into his backpack, and he starts playing there from under the weight during recess, because this is what my child is telling me, after school , accordingly, everyone is given a phone, and it would be a shame to do homework during after-school care, because they just go and play on their phone, and they , anya, you said that you explained everything to him, harm, dependence, in what words, what did you tell him, that's what useful things you learn for yourself in this game, you don't need anything.

second grade, no phone, only a watch, because i have to find out where my child is, so that i could call, in the watch, accordingly there are no games, he didn't like it in the second grade, because so mom, i have a watch, and the other has a phone, i say, well , it's okay that others have it, not everyone walks the same way, he's like, okay, in the third grade he already says: mom, i study well, yeah, i can walk with a phone, i say, well, okay, purely theoretically you can, but only on fridays, because he has a lot of time there. when lessons are not assigned on the weekend and he

waits there for his training for almost 3 hours, i say, okay, you can play, but only for an hour more, he’s like, okay, then already from the third grade, when these games started on fridays, it got to the point that he was sleepwalking, that is, he didn’t play there for 5-6 hours, no, he sometimes played there for 2 hours, yes, we’ll let him, but no more anyway , at night he either gnashed his teeth or.

what they play, but you don’t know how their life will turn out in the future, maybe they’ll ruin their eyes so much that they simply won’t be able to walk without glasses, and he’s like, well, yes, yes, yes, so, wait, lost the logical chain, you have a child, you gave him a phone, it happened, there was a clear deterioration, yes, sleepwalking appeared, tension appeared in the form of bruxism, that the child clenches his teeth very tightly, we hear a creak, that is , you saw a sharp deterioration, yes, but the phone did not disappear from life. did not disappear from life, because to deprive him of a phone in general, we did that too, yeah, and he becomes angry at us that we deprive him of some pleasure, how long does he become angry, at how long did you last, i'll ask you a question like this, for a week, yeah, i understand, well , naturally, you couldn't stand it, he would always come up to me and say, well, mom, i got an a, everything is clear, well, please, well, it seems like the child is really trying, he is studying , i would be happy to deprive him of all the games, because i don't

see any useful reason for these games on this phone, but well , what would i deprive him of, but i can't, because everything is like he... everything, everything is clear, we are returning to the same wonderful word that's it, let's then figure it out from what i 've already heard, i'll tell you, and you'll switch roles, and you'll ask questions, the first most interesting mistake is this, well, i'll call things by their proper names, because this is really a mistake that most parents, children, they are absolutely brilliant, smart, they are strategists, they know everything about us, they... they know our weak points very well, what they can press on. yours, maxim, the first 2 years carefully studying your attitude to the student, to his achievements, understood that it is important for you, it brings you joy, it is normal, all parents like it when their child is successful, when he

studies well, and he is in the third grade so, here is a trump card for you, he says: mother, my studies are good or a phone, mother, naturally, yes, because for us it is. but the gadget in this case also you came out on the scene as a method of payment, a method of compensation, labor costs, successes, skills that the child gives us in the form of his good studies, a very big, of course, such a failure, a very big the mistake happened at the moment when you saw health problems, this is what

complex specialists are afraid of, it is clear that we live in a time when you can’t give up gadgets, of course, sleepwalking is one of the most common manifestations, it’s not only you... what happened, it’s a scream, it’s such a bell, it knocks and says: “ouch, the nervous system can’t cope with the load.” of course, the first thing you can do in such a situation, but you’ve already lived through it, somehow, now we’ll figure it out, as for those who are watching us, if you understand that this is the only problem that the child has, then we reduce the time, we transfer all the time to the first half of the day, because when the child plays gadgets or watches, it is not necessary to play, someone communicates in chats, just. uses a phone, a tablet in the evening, his nervous system is very mobile, it absorbs everything, the brain absorbs everything, some events happen there, he has shot enough, time is up, he turns it off, closes his eyes, and his brain continues to shoot, because these 2 hours before sleep -

this is generally a critical time for a child's psyche, everything they have absorbed there, they digest at night, and of course, the nervous system is screaming, i'm so overexcited, i can't stop, i've already blurred the line between virtual life and real life, he shot in the virtual one, but left with it in the literal sense, he left with his eyes closed at night to continue playing this game of his already in real life, this is dangerous, this is a dangerous signal, of course, you went the right way, tried to forbid, couldn't even stand it elementary time, because of course in order to form the necessary habit, you need time to live without a gadget, this is the first. secondly, you need parental time, because when we deprive a person of a tablet, deprive him of the internet, deprive him of a game, we must give him something in return, this is also often a weak link for parents, because you need to spend your efforts, you need to think of something to captivate, you need to give some emotional joy, emotional

reinforcement, this also requires strength, but somehow we have already experienced it, apparently we have reduced it time, i understand correctly, well, when we didn’t give him a phone, we played board games all the time in the evenings, the weather was good, we went out there to play football, we also played with the child, there was a hoop, basketball, we rode bicycles, that ’s why, like, probably the plus of that is that he also started other activities, he didn’t have time for gadgets and he himself didn’t ask, yeah, but still, after some time - everything is fine, everything is fine, op, and can i, after a while, when it gets boring, apparently, free time appears, or an irritant appears that he... sees this in others, he more often he still sees this in others , because, for example, he went out there to the football field in the yard and look how many children are there, i don’t know, everyone is sitting on their phones instead of playing football and i understand that my one is standing there, first he looked there once, then he looked there once, and no one

is playing with him, like and well, i’m standing from afar watching all this, like he’s talking about the guys, let’s play, they’re now now now now all on their phones, i i understand that it probably affects him too , it’s unpleasant for him too, on the one hand, i don’t want to give him a phone so that they can all sit on the football field and play, on the other hand, i don’t know, it turns out that i somehow entered his life so early, 10 years is still early, this is the thought

that absolutely all specialists are coming to now, that it’s very early, at this age it’s easy to form an addiction, and you said this phrase at the beginning that we only give it for an hour or a day, because we don’t want him to form an addiction addiction, unfortunately, everything you say further tells us that addiction has formed anyway, it doesn’t care what the time is, 5 minutes, 10, if it’s not enough for a person, if he wants more, it’s like with sweets, you know?

the concept of why we do this, and to make it easier for you to answer this question, i’ll ask you another one, what are your plans, you probably talk to maxim, your spouse, about his future, what he wants to do when he grows up, or maybe you think, it would be great if maxim was that, no, maxim himself expressed a desire, he has such a goal, he wants to enter moscow state university in the physics and mathematics department, he has been involved in a circle at moscow state university for a whole year now. in the small mechanics and mathematics department, he wants to further connect his life with mathematics, and at the same time

he really likes floorball, he plays floorball, goes to competitions, to tournaments, gets the best player, and then he wants to continue in sports, this is how to further develop this, and what is his goal with mathematics, not just to get a diploma from the mechanics and mathematics department, that he wants in life, he wants to continue programming, namely to create programs, he is also learning chinese. energy drinks are banned, after our program, the duma banned these drinks for children. the program live healthy will tell all the latest medical news. tomorrow on the first. moscow, the bolshoi theater, the gala ceremony of the leo nikolaevich tolstoy international peace prize. tomorrow on the first. and a fairly large number of studies have been conducted, which is interesting and,

perhaps, even somewhere funny, at one time they were sponsored by a person like bill gates, a person who is categorically against gadgets for children, his children, as they grew up, got gadgets very late, and this is actually not accidental, this applies to most successful people in this world, such billionaires, serious, successful with names, they do not give their children gadgets for a very... very long time, why? because there are studies that prove in focus groups, usually these are three focus groups, how studies are conducted, their a lot, it’s not a problem to find them and even show them to maxim, as a thinking person, so that he can see these real results, diagrams, schemes, just like a person with a mathematical mindset, usually as they do, three groups of students from the same faculty, approximately equal in their mental abilities, the first group leaves their phones outside the classroom, sits down, takes their seats. the second group takes their phones with them, but they are not allowed to take them out of their bags, the third group

takes their phones with them, they are turned off, but lie in front of them on the desks, and they are given some kind of test, according to the results always, no matter how many of these experiments were conducted, on different target age audiences, schoolchildren, students, the first group, which writes with gadgets outside the classroom door, writes these works as well as possible, the second group at... twice as bad as the first, because the gadget lies in front of them, yes, it is turned off, but it somehow actively winks at them like a chocolate bar, in children very quickly, in children, in teenagers, in young people, why do they take students, because they have accumulated experience, they usually, by the time they reach student age 10-15 years, some more, live constantly in a gadget, they have accumulated experience of anxiety, they have

a feeling that without them virtual life flows and flows very brightly. it is possible, this is the argument that makes sense to already give to maxim, that son, maybe you are so successful, precisely because your phone is limited, let's consider other options, we are already moving on to the question with the word all, let's consider other options, there is vasya, petya, seryozha, yes, some authorities who have as many gadgets as they want, as much as they can,

no one controls them, let's look at their life, what is it like, we just heard about your boy that he studies well , he has sports, he has chinese, he has a minor in msu, that is, this is such a serious load, and i really want to say for her that yes, our child deserves an hour a day, despite the fact that anxiety has already formed in him, this is such a borderline form, yes, either an addiction or not, but anxiety that he may not be able to do something, he has it in one form or another, but our task now is such a big job, it will be aimed at the fact that... to break his myth associated with the word everything, that is, we will try to adjust his constant social environment, this is school, this is sports, this is the street, yes, that is, where he communicates with guys who also have a gadget at hand all the time, the first thing we do is to consider their personalities, do they have anything in life at all, besides gadgets, yes, good, he does not have parental control, he can do anything, how he

studies, does he study at all, yes, maybe, it's all gone, in fact , statistically. it will be like that, there will be poor results in studies, there will be a lack of hobbies and extracurricular activities, there will be conflictual relationships within the family, because if everything within the family was quiet, peaceful and smooth and there was no need to close off from the child, because a gadget for parents is often like go baby, leave me alone, when the gadget is not controlled, it tells us that, that mom and dad have developed severe fatigue, they don’t have the strength for their children, maybe there’s conflict, maybe they’re single parents, they just don’t have this resource, yes, to devote time to their child, that is, it’s very important to change the degree from the focus that you’re talking about, that you might think that my son is unsuccessful, so we deprived him of a gadget, like this is a gold medal, from the fact that this is not a medal at all, this is a bag

of coal, perhaps, when this is a lot, it is not obtained because you are successful, and you well done, and you... are cool, and because there is no strength for you, no time for you, of course, we as adults will not go and tell this child about this, you know, my friend, in general your parents have no time for you, so everything is fine with your gadget, yes, naturally, no, we will not do this, but we will try, you will try , maxim, to change the concept that a gadget is not always an indulgence, this is the other side of the coin, that it is a wall between the child and the parents. because he does not really deal with the child, this is the first point, the second point, a large number of studies show us that when a person has a very strong influence from the opinions of others, there is such a word as comfortable thinking, yes, that is, he is very dependent on, he wants to be like everyone else, he wants to be no different and not stand out, then he

has no chance of becoming a leader, well, he can sit in a row with them, instead of going to throw even maybe one ball. gate, but at the same time he understands that he is developing his muscles, he is improving in the sport he is engaged in, you can sit with them harmfully, here in a row, at recess in a row, everywhere in a row, sit with them in a row, but again, what future do these kids have if we found out that they are playing a game, of course, the internet is not always evil, the internet is a good place for development, a lot of educational films. another form of presenting educational material: not all children are comfortable at school, sometimes there are frankly uninteresting, boring teachers, the material needs to be mastered, and there they can find for themselves.

our real life bursts into their virtual life with a very bad, criminal on the other hand, a game is always a risk zone. perhaps, yes, maxim will be interested in doing programming in one form or another right now to spend his time on the internet. firstly, it does not cause addiction, because it is completely different. achieving a result, there is a result, there is joy, you close the computer, go, that's it, you are happy, you showed your mother what you have achieved, and you are a little on the way to your profession, to your goal, which you want

to do later, but it is impossible to be a leader when you think in categories like everyone else, that's it this is an important idea that you probably need to try on a little bit and also convey to your child that you understand, yes, we are part of society, homo sapiens, he developed like that, we are not at all... perhaps, if you want to be successful, if you have goals, if you don’t want to be a cog, but you want to be a leader, someone who manages some processes, you

will offer them something else, because in fact, why do children sit on gadgets during after-school programs on the football field and so on, because there is essentially no alternative, yes, you can go play football, but they have a strong feeling that this football was here for 20 years before us and will be here for another 20 years... after us, and this is almost always in their understanding, yes, that is, 20 years at this age is, your whole life is ahead, they are in no hurry to realize this opportunity, because where will it go, the game will run away now, you need to play urgently, because it will run away, yeah, and so they are lured there, yes, these are also networks, but if he offers them something, maybe, if he has such a desire, something, that the promotion is only today, only today i can show you some features of my sport, i heard this word from you for the first time, i don’t even know what it means, again, what is the name of the sport, floorball, what is it, it’s like hockey,

but on the grass, with a stick, with a ball, maybe they have never seen anything like this before, like me, many yes, yes, maybe if he goes out into the yard not with a sword to play football, but with his stick, then we’ll have to postpone it, because the action is only today, and tomorrow we might not even see this stick, the game may be maybe he'll wait a couple more hours, the same thing. at school, yes, it's clear that he won't be this little joker, he doesn't need it every time, sometimes he can also play on his phone, and sometimes he can surprise them with something, and i'm sure, listening to your child, that he definitely has something to do with, at that moment his rating increases very much, because he's not like everyone else, everyone sits playing on their phones, and he, i don't know, brought two turbo inserts and showed how dad played in an insert as a child, also yes, a feeling of familiarity and... the opportunity to get additional contact with their parents, by the way, this scheme is always very effective, to bring something that later or to tell something that they

can then discuss at home, because as we have already found out, when a child spends an unlimited amount of time on a gadget, this tells us that contact with parents has been disrupted, i understand that our viewers now have a topic that is generally scary, i am already scared of what will be in the comments, but our viewers now may have just such an... emotional resistance, especially from those who gadget, little children have uncontrolled time, they are right there in their shell or vice versa, in the comments, and this is surkova, a stranger is talking, i spend a lot of time with my child, but at the same time, it's true , he spends another 8 hours on the phone, well, it's funny, yes, that is, simple mathematics does not add up, my friends, let's agree with you right away, if something touches you, this is a reason to think about it, maybe, to think, and not immediately go into ... defense, because a gadget is an escape, this is an escape for adults, this is an escape for children, a child the same person as we are, if we constantly

take the phone in our hands, after that, i assure you, yes, at first they say: everyone has one, we seem to have destroyed it a little, he will come and tell you, yeah, and you, mom and dad, take the phones a lot, so at that moment we say, yes, first of all, we admit, if it's true, we definitely admit and say, yes, you're right, let's sort out this situation, what am i doing on the phone, we justify ourselves all the time, we definitely do it for some benefit,

when we start admitting to ourselves that... no, and not always and not quite, and it's not fair, then it also makes sense to apologize to the child and say, yes, you were right, not always, so here we can already introduce new family rules, varis, you know, we had another situation like this, my child just in the third grade got carried away with a rubik's cube, he assembled it in a minute, i don't understand how it's possible to assemble things at all, but no one from his circle did this, of course he.

well, your parents don't have money for a phone, yeah, yeah, that's when he stopped doing this to do, yeah, he was kind of pinched by this whole situation, and he was like: mom, well, i have a phone, can i bring it to school, and i don’t know how to directly offer him this mechanism, yes, you have a phone, so you put the phone on the desk and assemble a rubik's cube, well, that is, you are already a level higher in your mental, even emotional impulse to show that yes , please. for those who have, who think in other categories, i have everything, because at this age it will be very difficult for him to fight back on the topic of no, we are doing well with money, and we are generally so successful, this is not necessary, this is not, this is a very personal area, which that boy definitely does not need, but you know what another question arose for me now, when we were telling, when i myself was telling you and i myself had a question about a dad who can lose and wash dishes, what is dad like in general with us,

how is it in our family, with you, with us? with you, in your family? no, our dad is a military man, we are strict about this , as if dad is practically never on the phones, well, that is, they can call to work the same way as me, that is , well, so we don’t play games there, we don’t even really correspond there, but yes, as you said, you have to start with yourself, i’m most often on the phone, because my work consists of the phone and writing something there to send to someone, and i understand, i catch myself thinking, i think, ah, well, the work will have to be standardized, that is, at the time when we want...

in fact, you are that rare mother whose problem is so tense, well, frankly, yes, we have a wonderful successful child who he studies well, who clearly has a lot of workload, additional work, is interested in many things, he goes out into the yard for a walk, it’s just a psychologist’s happiness that the child goes out for a walk at all, that is, everything you hear evokes such positive emotions in me, and i understand that the only difficulty that

maxim has today is not even a gadget as such, it’s precisely his communication with the outside world on the topic of not being like everyone else or being like everyone else, yes, such a... choice to be or not to be, perhaps he has this a choice also has to be made, and for you , you will have to spend a very significant time to give him this support, support, to admire, to say something like "well done", to offer some simple solutions, you must always remember that 10 years is still a baby, especially a boy, he will not even begin to experience teenage changes until three years from now, he is still a baby and he... cannot communicate with some kind of unnecessary aggression, with what is not typical for your family, what he is not used to, what he does not see at home, yes, so that dad would kick you in the ass or something like that would happen, that's why he

really needs this support from you with simple phrases or solutions, okay, good, yes, the phone is an indicator of success, let it be, well, let it lie behind the door of the classroom, yes, if we remember this experiment. because it does not lead you to success, it drags you to the bottom. anya, now i have a question for you , our analysis of your situation is ending, what did you hear today, what did you take away for yourself? well, i heard what my maxim needs namely to help, in the sense of, how can i put it, in that to give a point of support, that he is not that different from everyone else, but he, let's say, he will...

say, do something new, attract them, because you are sociable, outgoing, and if you want to achieve something in life, you should not look at external factors, but go and, as it were , achieve, and even despite the fact that they will still tell you that you are not like that, perhaps, but you know what you are, that's probably what they will say in your back anyway, but you go forward, orient yourself on those who are in the front.

hello everyone, this is tatyana gevarkyan and the podcast is not lymshity, together with fashion journalist olga mikhailovskaya and fashion historian elena eliseeva we are looking into the biography of coco chanel , looking for the russian trace in her career, and also finding out what her innovations are and what are they? chanel became without coco, hello, hello, let's immediately talk about the myths that exist around the name of coco chanel, because, frankly speaking, studying her biography, it is very difficult to figure out where the truth is, where the fiction is, if right from childhood

to begin, then what myths exist and what of them are true, what of them are fiction, she is from a very poor family, very, yes, really very poor, lived in an orphanage for some time, yes in a monastery, yeah. her father had some professions, either he traded something, or he was a sailor, there were some other sisters, then she was born, he basically abandoned everyone, she was always making this up because her father left them with their mother, there were different versions, the truth is, of course, no one knows, that's what they say, that her logo, it's pretty unoriginal, and this the image that was on the stained glass windows in the church she went to as a child, yes, in the monastery, well, these... well, yes, perhaps, perhaps not, you understand, but she , elena, has preserved some photographs, or maybe this monastery still exists, these windows exist, has anyone checked, yes, well, the monastery exists, of course, all this has been checked,

in fact, all the impressions of childhood, all this can be seen in what chanel did, this story about how our clothes tell our story, including tragic.

one of the details of the secret of her success, because many are surprised that a girl from a very, very poor family, without education, yes, as far as i understand, who was engaged in the lowest paid professions that had nothing to do with fashion, then she began to sew something, while she did not know how not to draw, but she knew how to sew, she knew how to sew in the monastery and they were taught to sew, yes ... she had some very simple things, yes, there,

in my opinion, some aprons, something like that, well that is, she didn’t have any special talents, she did have some artistic talent, not in the sense that she could draw, in the sense that she turned all of her experience, these monastic robes, you know, black, into the main hit of the 20th century, nature created her as a completely new type of woman, and i think that this served as such an impetus, even externally, she was... an absolutely new type, a type of the 20th century, thin, flat, tall, without breasts, without hips, yes, that’s how she dressed herself, yes, and the fact that she became with her boyfriends to take off their shirts, coats, raincoats, put on herself, as a result she created everything that we wear now, she really made a revolution, it turns out that she understood that she was a girl who did not meet the beauty standards of that time. so she decided that why do some standards exist,

why should they be in beauty, why should they be in fashion, why are there some ideas, stereotypes about what women's clothing should be like, what men's clothing should be like, maybe that's why she decided to break all the stereotypes, that was her talent, that was her genius, after all, i think, another topic surrounded by different myths and stories, this is of course chanel and men and... a lot is said about the fact that she actively used them in her career, and she is credited with such a quality that she never parted with men on bad terms, she always, even parting with each of them, she somehow held them and said that we remain friends, subsequently she could always have these connections somehow realize, she was a poor girl, yes in a monastery, sewed an apron, yes, yes, yes, and then the monastery ended there, 18 years old, yes she was in the city of moulins, somewhere she worked as a seamstress,

something else, she even, in my opinion, in vichy carried this healing water, and there she tried to make a career as a singer, well, in some small one, there she sang and met this etin balsan, this is her first such big major romance, she asked him for money, as i understand it, for some business of hers, for a hat there a workshop and so on, he considered it all nonsense, she was already doing... then the hat, well, she tried, she started, as a result she had an affair, the main love of her life, this boy capple, this englishman, who actually gave her the money, to start her own business, she always said that she returned it after about 2 or 3 years, she returned it all and never owed anything to anyone again, and he was an english aristocrat, in my opinion, yes, i think he was not exactly an aristocrat, but i understand that he was a very rich man, who then as a result... married an english aristocrat, the relationship between them

continued, nevertheless, and he died in the nineteenth year, she always said that this was the main love of her life, and then she somehow got ahead, first in paris in an apartment, he allowed her to open a hat workshop, in his apartment, first in his apartment, apparently, when the hatters began to evict them from the apartment, probably then he decided that it was time to rent a studio, sveta, of course, was the first to put on these hats, but they were influential, they were quite influential, yes, they were very influential in terms of fashion, yes, of course, that's how it gradually was.

she blossoms, plus, of course, her approach to clothing, clothing that is suitable for leisure, for the beach, yes, she is relaxed, she does not commit to anything, this also contributed , in fact, to the fact that her business blossomed, when the war began, she wanted to close this boutique, and he told her, under no circumstances close it, everything is kind of the opposite, and people really started to flow there, just like biorits, there were two places, daville and biorits. where rich aristocratic families flocked from the war away from paris, that's where the russian trace in her career started, because there she met russian aristocrats, it was actually the sister of the grand duke dmitry pavlovich, she was nikolai's cousin, he had

an affair with her, and he introduced her to his sister maria palovna, she created this embroidery workshop, which worked at first. naturally, these people came, they were all very beautiful, tall, spoke french, and all without a penny of money, everyone needed a job, so there was a huge number, of course, of russian models, beautiful. this is tatyana gevorkyan and the podcast are no slouch. today we are talking about

one of the most famous women of the 20th century, coco chanel. and what else in chanel's style directly connected her with russia at that time? her collections here after we had, when the revolution happened, a wave of emigration, there were russian influences and there was the influence of these shirts, men's kosovorodki, which also variations on this theme appeared in her collections, a lot of fur appeared, and the idea of ​​russian style, as it is here, and fur, embroidery, this appeared, the collection of the twenty-second year is considered a truly russian collection, and there are wonderful drawings from vogue, where ... such a high shirt, a skirt on the head, a fur hat, earflaps, my favorite picture, just such an earflaps, very funny, very beautiful, the first wave of russian emigration, it greatly influenced fashion in principle, in general, russia was in fashion, here are these famous pearls, where it came from, that we

still wear it, because for her it was not so much the pearls that were important, pearls as pearls separately, she got them just after the english, she began to wear them in a new way again.