through the wall or the door of the cell. messing was in solitary confinement, there were guards outside and he hypnotized these guys through the door, that is, through a closed barrier, convincing them that diamonds were scattered on the floor of the cell, those who succumbed to this hypnosis open the cell, all the guards rush in, yes, they fall at messing's feet, begin to collect. some kind of air diamonds, how happy they were at that moment, they were without, and how happy messing was on tiptoe, leaving the cell, locking the door behind him, that's it there is a legend about how messing ran to a place where german tanks would never reach, he ran to moscow, thinking that here in moscow he was also popular, but since he was incredibly, of course, it turns out that hypnosis worked, well cool, well yes, i and... well, that means, well

really, amazing, i listen, i admire, i think that all our tv viewers are glued to the screen now, like, okay, it can't be, sergey, where are you from, yes, friends, all this can be read in messing's biography, i also need to run ahead right away, to say that there more than twenty books were written by messing himself, and how many of his friends, witnesses, historians and other people who tried to touch this truly phenomenal figure, also wrote their books and not one, not one dozen each...

officials from the ministry of culture, messing shows him some of his incredible tricks, comrade obrosimov offers him to work in the agitation brigades, and so begins his creative career in russia. messing works in the agitation brigades, the war begins, messing continues to work in these brigades, at forty in the fourth year he goes to novosibirsk and there his future wife, aida raport, comes to his concert, and there is an interesting story here, she came to him for... a concert with such a businesslike look, she said after the concert, what is this, your assistant, the assistant, does not play the role of an assistant well, well, these are women, messing liked her so much that he answered her the following, he said, well, come to the rehearsal tomorrow and show how it should be, from then on she came to every rehearsal, and later became his assistant and faithful wife, a real...

friend, and this really brightened up helped wolf messing, because he was essentially a lonely person, he was a loner by nature, and this person, a reliable rear, she was with him at home, at work, until her death, until her death, here we must say friends, that really our best assistants are our wonderful wives, katenka, i love you,

his gift is also, by and large, a test, but imagine, i just caught myself thinking for a second, imagine, even how many films we have seen, that a person, possessing superpowers, begins to aim for big money, power, world conquest, ha-ha-ha, domination and so on, messing was a different person, he used his gift to help people, his concerts were made to help people, in these agih... he

charged the soldiers, he predicted victory, he may 9 forty-fifth, we will win, that's when iosifireonov. messing was interested in this phenomenal figure, but what we know for sure is that messing was really a patriot and in forty-fourth year in novosibirsk on his funds, two fighter planes were made with his personal money, one of them was presented to the pilot ace, hero of the soviet union, konstantin kovalev, and this is really confirmed, there is a news video chronicle of this event. where this plane is positioned and presented, and the hero pilot kovalev, on the fuselage of the plane it is written that this is a gift from the soviet patriot, comrade messing, to comrade konstantin kovalev, the second plane served in the flight regiment in warsaw. cool! well,

may 9 happened, the war ended and messing becomes an artist of the state concert, gets such a position, tours with circus corpses, with his solo program. which is now called psychological experiments, the program enjoys wild success, he later receives the title of honored artist, in general, now he is a real soviet artist, then it was called an original genre, well, in fact, he is a mentalist, and what does his program include, of course, mentalist is actually a modern term, which includes hypnosis, possession of mnemonics, this is management objects, there are also some psychological tricks, someone uses real hypnosis, this is a big, big, big area in which any tricks are used that fit the so-called mental magic,

which translates as mental mind, that is , control of the mind, objects, man, will and even the elements of nature, yeah, now i will show you such an experiment, very simple, but it is a whole subdivision in the genre called imposed choice. so, i have three objects: a photograph of messing, a toy, a bus and a cup. put your hand forward, here's a pointer. point to any of these objects. and now my prediction, great. you turned this ruler yourself on the back side, which says: you choose a cup, and that's cool, we didn't agree, and now ask me what would have happened if you had pointed, for example, to a bus, okay, ilya, and what would have happened if i

had pointed to a bus, then i would have done this, i would have simply turned the bus and shown the prediction that i stuck on the bus, it says here, you choose a bus, on other objects. there are no such inscriptions, if you had chosen a photograph, i would have said that in this envelope i also have a prediction, it also contains a photograph of messing, amazing, that is, no matter what you choose, i will always prove to you that i made a prediction about this particular object, i will tell you that an illusionist can do such an experiment with hundreds of objects, each time he will...

i apologize for my appearance, here, but i would like to bring some clarity, who are you actually? and i am actually victor vladimirovich major kalyony, retired though, volodya, i killed a man, sometimes women with high social responsibility are much more terrible than women with low, but never mind, it was from this point that the fatal blow was dealt, how is that? that's how it is, if i had known that you were coming to exterminate cockroaches, i would have arrived in a limousine, you know, it's like that with muslims, a child belongs to the father's clan, dad, and what your current wife

did in the car with her first husband, you know, that's exactly... worth establishing investigation, and in our yard the season is interrupted, on sunday on the first, mountains, waterfalls, the underground, caves, golden priska, it's a real fairy tale. in the background are elephants, emerald hills, the aroma of freshly brewed tea. this is the only city in our country where literally medieval europe has been preserved. here is our center. we have snow for one week a year. just one week? the cabin is completely sealed. sealed, absolutely. the cactus apuntia or the elixir of youth, here for the first time in russia they began to grow. pretzel - this is the main gastronomic symbol of the city, you know why it is so twisted, because it is

a symbol of hugs, i made corals from lichen and raspberries, and of course, i made amber, i called all this the baltic coast, we are in bashkiria, friends, yes, yes, we are in sochi, welcome to ibork, spend an exciting weekend with us, only premieres, on ... first: and this is a podcast focus, we are illusionists, the safronov brothers, unraveling the secrets of the main mystifier of the 20th century, messing. let's take a closer look his mental experiments, his psychological experiments and in general his so -called concert. what was it like? first messing would come out, well , the deputy would appear before the audience, first he would make the so-called opening remarks, he was familiar with the genre, with the genre, you see, there is such a fine line here, yes,

whether it is a genre or an experience, in general, he would come out on stage, make, that is, an opening speech, talk about the experiments, about his stories from life, then he would invite the audience to independently come up with something for him some tasks, that is, the viewer wrote these tasks in a note, the note was passed along the rows of the stage, there messing's assistant read out this task, and messing tried... to complete this task, look how interesting it turns out, that is, messing did not come with a suitcase of ready-made props and numbers, but later he came from a suitcase, we did not even have one, you see, he could work unprepared, give me whatever you want, any tasks are cool, because the peak of messing's career was the post-war years up until about the mid-sixties, gradually, at first it was just a briefcase, then a suitcase, and then whole... cases with real circus equipment were brought in, but he started, of course, exclusively with psychological experiments, with

those same tasks, the tasks could be absolutely different, someone, for example, wrote the following in a note: i will hide a needle to any spectator in the hall, and you, comrade messing, will try to find it. messing stood up, took the hand of the person who hid it, using the same technique that i showed you at the very beginning, he led and tortured. here he writes in his book in his memoirs, i have to give another session of my psychological experiments. i have to go out into the hall, where almost a thousand people are sitting, all looking at me. i have to captivate these people, excite them, surprise them, showing them my art, which more than half of the audience considers wonderful. surprise. at the same time, without disappointing, convince that there is nothing wonderful in this, that everything is done by the power

of the human mind and will. mesin was a first-class mentalist, he knew how to work with the public, he knew psychology, human behavior, and this knowledge, of course, was acquired by him - due to this colossal experience, due to many years of practice and the fact that he constantly improved, experimented, never stood still. all these methods have quite scientific explanations, well, it must be said that even today the genre of mental magic is very popular, mental magic, it is called today, this is so, despite the fact that the name contains magic, and there is nothing magical in it, here by the way, this is a photo directly from wolf messing's performances, by the way, these are unique photos, because messing almost never allowed his performance to be photographed, there are practically no records left. in the archives, i don't know, maybe because he was afraid that he could be exposed, that the camera could look in

and see what should not be visible to the viewer, we don't know why, but in any case we were lucky, there is one unique video recording that captured, in my opinion, one of his last final concerts, one of his last performances, let's see, maybe we'll be able to see something with our professional eye, how did wolf messing work, the trick? was it really a superpower, look how his eyes are blindfolded, this is my, my only guess, you see, it creates a giant gap through which messing can... see everything that's happening, and look, messing's hand reaches into his pocket, takes out a wallet, now a wallet, he'll hold it at stomach level, that is, at his chest, op, you see, mesink already sees the color of the object that he got and so on, you see, wait, no, no, he has, in short, there were two, two bandages, this is all just an assumption, but

this is a natural movement, like sergei, you take some object, naturally, you will hold it like this, i take the object and show it, here i do not see it. here he takes objects, holds them in front of him, not he lowers them here, here he sees at the level of his own and what do you say about the fact that there are two bandages - the upper one is apparently just sticking out like that here let's figure it out we know that when illusionists blindfold themselves they put special bags on their heads we know that there are all sorts of tricks there special holes began to come up with some on the spot looking. look for the secret of this trick, for you it will still be a trick, messing's experiment is inexplicable, firstly, we don't know what is happening now, we see a short fragment, yes, we see short fragments and it is not clear why he took out this wallet or notebook, what is it and in general it is not even clear why he took it out

from the pocket and what will happen next, so it is difficult to judge, simply put, mesting is still... a mystery to us, we do not know how he does it, but we know - some secrets of our craft, let's now show our viewers a trick, and then tell how it is done. here i have an ordinary piece of paper, you see, there is a magic circle drawn here, write any word in the center of this circle, write, show the viewers and fold this piece of paper back in half. yeah, i fold it, i won't see it if i take it, right, no, you won't see it, look, that's it honestly, yeah, now i'm tearing it, yeah,

oops. now, let it burn, i'm not peeking, i don't know what's written there, think about your word, think about your word, and i 'll try to read it now, think, think, think, think about your word, there was the word wolf, yeah. cool, yeah, uh-huh, wolf, yeah, i'm original, how did you guess, okay, actually, when i was tearing the leaf, i took the remaining piece for myself, i knew, i knew that it was in the center, i leave the center in my hand, when i was tearing it, it sets fire, attracts attention, when i turned away, i already read it there, well, that's it friends, now after watching

today's program, our viewers will turn into new messings, we wish you yes, i don't know how this messing thing works, i'm just showing you. how how i could do it, but not like messing, of course, in addition, another experiment from the repertoire of wolf messing, it's called telekinesis, influencing objects, as i understand it, we will now show not how, of course , wolf himself did it, we will show it how, let's say , novice illusionists in this genre do it, well this is one of the options how it can be done, you see, i have a regular metal spoon, look closely, now i... and i'll bend my thoughts, check, is it a real metal spoon, that's right, a real metal spoon,

everyone now has only one question, how did andrey do it, you'll tell me, of course, go ahead, so, po... i'll show you the secret of this cool trick, look, in fact i have two pieces, i broke one off in advance, i bent the second spoon like this, we put these two pieces together, like this, you see, we slowly lower and we give the viewer a bent spoon, and we leave this one in the hand, like this, super, by the way, i must say that these are the tricks that messing's imitators used, if messing used scientific experiments, then the imitators, as a rule, resorted to such tricks, to such things, to such tricks, but i also wanted to return again to his abilities, i personally know mikhail. vinogradov was, with whom we studied psychics for many years, and he told me about his meeting with messing, when vinogradov was still

student, they came to his friend to do homework, their parents were also close, also friends with each other, but so you understand, they were all already of high military rank, generals there and so on, so - the parents of vinogradov's friend. they say: you better go to misha, there is a house there, study, there should be no one in the apartment, we are waiting for someone, so when the young guys gathered to leave the apartment, on the landing they meet mesing, vinogradov sees this fantastic person, about whom he has a lot heard, read a lot, but never saw him in person, their eyes met, mesink looked at him intently, as vinogradov described his emotions, that he directly felt something. as if an electric current had pierced him through the body, mesink entered the apartment, slammed the door, and when the young

students returned back, they did not meet mesink, but they saw the excited faces of the parents, that is , the generals, then vinogradov understood that the generals were finding out something from mesink, received some important information, very exciting information, and grapes. then i realized that all these stories about mesingo and about energy, that all this is not out of thin air, then vinogradov began to study this phenomenon, vinogradov once told me about one legendary trick, but which, well, i definitely think is a focus, a legendary trick, when he went out on stage, put two chairs with their backs to each other, invited a spectator from the audience, lay down on these chairs... the spectator, his head rested on one back of the chair, his feet on the other back of the chair, like a board, slab, monolith, i don't know,

a man was lying on a rail, messing invited another viewer and sat him on his stomach, he didn't bend, is this a trick or some kind of suggestive hypnosis? i can do it as a trick, but i believe that he hypnotized the man, he somehow, in short, friends, leaves a huge amount. right now, at the end of our magical podcast, you will witness a psychological experiment from the repertoire

of wolf messing. we will mentally influence andrey, we will try to raise the air in his body. we are starting. have you watched the podcast focus and we are illusionists , the safronov brothers, good night to all and believe in miracles. yes, they will definitely happen to you.

death is walking down the street. it carries pancakes on a saucer, whoever gets it, it will come true, it will touch you on the shoulder, kiss you hot, pennies will fly out of your bosom, a fool walks through the forest and... a fool is looking for someone more stupid than himself, marsupial wheels are spinning towards you, in your drenched head, under the battle-beating rain, mercury boiled, a fist swung, but if only the cross on...

the load, then they will feed you on your last eye, it will be a fool, i'll die, a fool is looking for, to be more stupid, and today i bought some balloons, i'll fly over them, my bravery is a wonderful country, i'll swallow fluff, i'll dive into the ground , always answering all questions alive, a fool is walking , a fool is looking for him, to be more stupid, a fool is walking,

po... and not a fool is looking for him to convince himself. the sun was shining both night and day, there are no atheists in trenches under fire, but the blind one is running , the insignificant one will win, you've never dreamed of such a one.

a fool is walking through the forest, looking for a fool, to be more stupid than himself, a fool is walking, through the forest, looking for a fool, stupider than yourself. hello, this is the podcast 20 years later with you host alexander anatolyevich and konstantin mikhailov. and today our issue is dedicated to the legend of russian punk rock, composer, singer, performer, poet, artist, sound engineer, leader of the group

civil defense, yegor letov. the song produrachka just sounded, thanks for performing naik barzov, hi, naik, hi, naik, hi, guys, such a question, and how has yegor letov influenced all russian music since its appearance and how does he influence today? i think he influenced very much, as at least on such musicians who represent such a lo-fi direction, let's say, in music, when music... is initially aimed at not resorting to some expensive studios, to a very fat pop, let's say, commercial sound, now in the underground there is a very powerful wave of such musicians, on whom i think, i am sure, even letov and civil defense influenced, well, maximally. nike, what do you think yegor letov is for russian

music in general, for rock music in general? if the english understood russian got what the man composed, sang, how he did it, i think he would have been such a superhero on the world stage, well, in the underground, but nevertheless, this is also

a very, very serious large layer of music. nike, thank you very much, thank you for stopping by, thank you for inviting me, this is a podcast 20 years later with you host alexandra. and konstantin mikhailov, and today our guest is maxim valerievich koshelev, vocalist-musician of the gromyka group. hello, tovarich, hello, author, performer, singer, composer, poet, mayak, hi, and also denis zvezdov, violist, founder of the string ensemble forte family, hello, hello, and the legendary multi-instrumentalist, jazzman, our great friend, belinovik, hello, glad to see you on the podcast 20 years later.

protest, on the verge of conflict between fathers and sons, well, it could have just been a protest and that's it, not develop into creativity, but it developed, yeah, it developed, because egor letov was always open to what came into him, and didn't particularly think about the conjuncture, for creativity, this is rule number one, what opinions also about the presentation, he had such a revolutionary presentation, this is punk rock as a genre, i even heard that it is called a subgenre. siberian punk rock, here is his presentation, his records, if you listen to them, everything there is grinding, and how is it, this half-split scream, all this is a lot of energy, and such music - this is actually the essence of it, how to distinguish st. petersburg

punk rock, moscow punk rock from siberian punk rock, this is a difficult question, there is already some qualification in the description of the instructions, in my opinion, the siberian one is angrier than the frosts in siberia, moscow glamorous is glamorous by default. and omsk is the most genuine , it turns out siberian brutality, it seems to me that he had a unique gift, when you can through amazing simplicity, such a text and guitar and convey it clearly to a large audience, and at the same time the thought is quite deep in the lyrics, in all of them, and he wrote so many songs for him... more than a thousand songs, as far as i know, this remoteness of the city from big cities, yes from moscow and st. petersburg, it also largely decided that well, he became such a legend, here i still want add that i think that the initial such grand success of civil defense

was caused by the fact that egor was the first, he expressed what was boiling up, am i wrong or not, correct me, there is no studio recording of any civil defense group, all are studio recordings, they were all recorded at home, this is such a studio, this is part of the concept. now, if you ask the internet, ask a girl with the letter a, to put civil defense, the first thing she gives is a disgusting recording, from which you simply cannot make some kind of... for some reason i like it more, just when i was equalizing and mastering, but still, i like egor with a guitar, well, okay, because the lyrics are audible, because in this orin. yes, for me, at the forefront of egor letov's creativity is his word, the song, which, in

general, is why i made my program, precisely so that people who, for example, decided once and for all that this is not mine, so that it was, there was a chance, that there was an opportunity to understand that no, this is mine, and this is very cool, maxim valerievich, that for you, egor letov, this is completely out of your league key, yes, but nevertheless, why not, it is very interesting to work on... other people's material in the gromyka group manages to make covers of other authors, on which song of yegor letov do you choose? psychonauts? the song is called, in my opinion, glory to the psychonauts, glory to the psychonauts, absolutely right, so, the gromyka group song of yegor letov, glory to the psychonauts in the podcast 20 years later.

new trees are knocked down in the summer, new nests are built on them by birds, new holshimiya, new nature, our new land, glory to the psychonauts, glory to the pioneers, about the first of their

boundless spaces, their multi- colored depths, the usual disease of not returning back. panic thirst to get out of here, frantic angels with hungry eyes storm their heavens, glory to the psychonaftas, glory to the pioneers, hurray to the first passers-by, their multi-eyed spaces, their multi-colored depths.

this is our chemical home for the sad eaters of the earth, this is our chemical home for the sad inhabitants of the earth. this is our chemical home for the sad inhabitants of the earth, this is our chemical home for the sad inhabitants of the earth, we continue the podcast 20 years later, alexander anatolyevich is here and konstantin mikhailov, a lot of interesting interlocutors. who tells us a lot of new things related to the work of the group

civil defense and personally comrade letov egor. well, you can ask billy about anything, he knows everything about the group, in fact , he is the unofficial chronicler of the group. yeah, well, that's not true. i'm more of a person who simply reverently treats all the information that is available. how did it happen, how did i encounter creativity? well, i studied at in the seventh grade, my older brother, alexey, came home from school, brought a cassette, was looking for it, and we were beatle fans then, and he said, listen, listen, and of course it’s just, well , at that age it was just funny, but it was a blessing that no one expected that such a thing could happen, and... i heard these square chords like the beatles, for example, i heard a clear bass line, i heard a bass guitar, like paul mccartney, and not to mention the lyrics , so to speak, desperate laughter, which were accompanied, that is, or anticipated many songs, so i was just happy, immediately we already then began to play

guitars with my brother immediately began to select and therefore play these songs, because it was super played, that immediately fed on the side, well , there was no reason to on the side, but a real new idol and just a person appeared, and we were then still like boys, i even still had a thin voice, in general i dreamed that when i grow up, i will sing as tough, just with this brutal voice, like yegor letov. can we consider russian punk rock, we have already decided that moscow is glamorous, glam rock, we will consider it, st. petersburg is, well, rather, anti-glam, and siberia is an icy wind, siberia is punk rock, can we say that punk rock came from siberia to russia?

it is like fashion, show-off, there is punk as a lifestyle, and there is punk as a philosophy, yes, for egor it is like a philosophy, there is a group called automatic satisfiers, which was in st. petersburg, it is like a lifestyle and also show-off, i just remember when i saw, so in ninety-first year for the first time western punks, here are the photos dad brought from london with painted, that is neat rakez, he says, they are sitting there, they are sitting there, yes it's fschen, they are sitting on... they went in the morning and eat sandwiches, and i always thought that punks eat goodies, in germany, for example, all punks, they united with dogs, punks always sit with dogs, with a pack of dogs, so siberian punk is still philosophical punk, i think so, in some city egor went for a walk around the city before a concert,

i met some punks who said, are you trying to impersonate letov, what are you doing, and he said, well, i am letov. you're still lying, gas, take it, take it, and they gave him a beating, oh-oh-oh, and he went out on stage, all beaten up, said: "your city, i 'm not coming back." i heard this story , i don't know how true it is, it could very well be, i had the same story with billy bent, i was standing at night, so to speak, by the fence, i told me that you want a billy bent, i said, well, that's how i am, i am him, they said, well, if you belinovik, come on, let's have the second verse of the song , let's have some fun in st. petersburg, sing, and i... i'm used to singing from the first and i'm standing there a little drunk and i can't remember the second verse, like if i had sung first i wouldn't have sung, i can't do the second verse , well, they wouldn't beat me, of course, but i got a lot of hate , that's the story, mind you, the fans know it from anywhere, let's sing, let's sing billy novik and the song, everything is like

yegor letov's people in the podcast 20 years later. that's all that was, wasn't and isn't, ours have faded, all the glory has healed, everything is like people.