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if you can do it and do it like that, you are a very cool artist, this is definitely michael jacks, let's stop at this point of my confidence. so far i have only recognized oleshka. now ask yarmolnik to dance like this, anything can happen here. i decided that i will give up this business of guessing, i want to be surprised, exactly, a new season, tomorrow after the evening news, on the air of the first channel podcast everyone wants to fly, i am its host leonit yakubovich, today we are talking about the legendary unit group a, the anti-terror group, the alpha group, the federal service security. russian federation, what else
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from history the plane tu-134, flight tbilisi leningrad, 57 passengers on board, seven crew members, it was hijacked by seven, well, how to say, representatives of the golden georgian youth led by joseph tsiritelli. nevertheless, despite the fact that the plane was hijacked. the ship's commander gard pakhadze landed the plane in tbilisi, the hijackers demanded to fly further, but nevertheless the commander simply said that we would not fly landed the plane in bilis. this was written and talked about, and even a whole film was shot about this operation, the criminals were captured, the hostages were released, then the liberation of the bus in arzhanikidze in... the local bus crew
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led by pavel yaksheyants took hostage fourth grade students of school number 42 and a teacher and, by the way , the bus driver. what was the goal? to receive a ransom of 3 million dollars and travel abroad? by order of the general secretary of the cpsu central committee gorbachev , a crisis headquarters was assembled to save the children, here during operation thunder, this is an undertaking anti-terrorist group alpha, under the leadership of gennady nikolaevich zaitsev, all the hostages were released, the group was delivered there on an il-76, here's what was done, it was the crew members who became hostages instead of the children, that is, they were exchanged, under the cover of a live count and schoolchildren, the yakshiyantsy group moved from
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the bus to the plane, after which the fourth-graders and the teacher were released, the criminals managed to get the plane to fly to israel, and on december 2, the il-76 flew to tel aviv, this was with the consent of the higher authorities leaders of two states, but then they were arrested in israel and deported by the ussr on the condition that... the condition was accepted, on december 4 the terrorists appeared in court, the leader of the gang was sentenced to 15 years of imprisonment with confiscation, the rest to fourteen years, then the seizure of the pre-trial detention center in sukhumi, this is in abkhazia, this was in 1990, a riot in the pre-trial detention center of the city of sukhumi, on august 11 seven prisoners beat up the officers on duty,
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these were automatic weapons, these were pistols, grenades, everything else. the criminals demanded that the authorities, in exchange for the lives of the hostages, provide them with a minibus, a helicopter, and leave the city unhindered. on august 14 , a special flight arrived in sukhumi with officers from the special forces unit of the kgb group a, as well as fighters from the special forces training battalion oms. don named after dzerzhinsky, these are
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the operatives who jointly developed an assault plan, according to which the bandits were offered - uh, well, in general, they were supposed to provide them with a minibus, at the moment of boarding which one of the groups was supposed to take it by storm and neutralize the criminals who were there, and the other two take control of the detention center. during the storming, in any case, it was known that three criminals were killed, including the gang leader didzaria and prunchak, they were killed, the rest of the rebels were arrested. it was a very... complicated operation, because i repeat, the brutal bandits had a huge amount of weapons in their hands, and they shot back terribly, all the hostages were freed, there were no casualties on their side at all, two participants in the assault were wounded, further in
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the history of the group, thank god, the assault on the white house in august 1991, which did not happen, here is what the participant recalls: "we, as they write, we drove through all the hot spots of the soviet union since 1988, and after that the decision matured that in moscow we would not support unfair orders. this was written by vladimir eliseev. the last operation during the existence of the ussr with the participation of alpha was the event of august 91. on august 20 , a meeting of the heads of all departments of the committee was held." at the meeting, the following was heard here is the order: together with units of the soviet army, the state security committee and the ministry of internal affairs, the ussr, to storm the building of the russian parliament, the white house. all other
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special forces of the kgb and the ministry of internal affairs, including, by the way, the vypil group, and the forces of the ministry of internal affairs, as well as the omon, which is part of the operational structure of the fbd, and the oms-don division, that is, the moscow omon and the special forces division seconded to the ministry of internal affairs, all orders were given verbally, the ministry of internal affairs was to push people out of the white house, and the alpha would take it by storm, however, as you...
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in resolving the acute political crisis, which led, well, as you remember , if anyone remembers, to mass protests, military actions in the center of moscow, so the group was given the order a day before to storm the white house, and some
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claimed that the order included the words to fire to kill, you understand what this means, in our capital... civil war, ours must shoot at ours, ours at ours, i also don’t really understand how such an order was given, but nevertheless, the alpha fighters abandoned the idea of ​​storming on their own initiative, entered into negotiations with the leadership of the supreme council, which then occupied the white house. the negotiations were led by colonel kireksayev. who convinced, well, about a thousand defenders of the white house to lay down their arms and ensure the evacuation of people from the burning building, as you remember, several shots were fired at the building from tank
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guns, and part of the building was already burning, also rescuing a wounded soldier near the walls of the white house, mortally wounded saw a wounded man, went out to help him, a shot was fired, by the way, it is still unknown where the shot was fired from, but not from the white house, officer sergeyev was mortally wounded, boris nikolayevich yeltsin, despite the gratitude expressed by the fighters for refusing to carry out the order in order to save the lives of civilians, was even going to disband the group, but still... did not disband, even achieved its redeployment
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to the kremlin. further from history, 2002, the release of hostages at dubrovka, a very difficult situation, for the first time in many years, the bandits who captured dubrovka did not put forward any demands at all, a huge number of people captured by alpha. terrorists were captured, some were killed, as part of a group of terrorists, there were 40 people, half of them were female suicide bombers, with suicide belts , they were sitting in the hall between the captured hostages, on october 25, vladimir vladimirovich putin held a meeting with the heads of the ministry of internal affairs and the fsb, following which a decision would be made to storm the building with alpha forces, the operation to
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free the hostages was planned with the first hours after the capture, the security forces, the alpha men practiced the capture, liberation of approximately the same buildings, well , what in our language, in civilian terms, they rehearsed, practiced to the point of subtlety, because i repeat, the building is huge and there are a thousand hostages, plus there are also... explosive explosive devices simply among them, one explosion of one device would detonate everything, the explosion would be so powerful that the ceiling would collapse and there would be absolutely no one left alive, therefore, despite the heavy thinking, as far as eyewitnesses said, it was a decision was made to use nerve gas. the alpha group managed to penetrate the first floor of the building unnoticed. there were no militants there, as they were afraid that snipers would shoot,
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so they were not on the first floors, they were located above, from the technical rooms, alpha officers made a hole to install video equipment and get at least some access to the ventilation systems, it was assumed, well, they assumed that it was possible to penetrate the building through them, at 6:00 in the morning the assault began and already at 6:30 a representative... fsb reported that the theater center was taken under the control of the special services, at that time the evacuation was in full swing, hostages were being taken out, who had become victims of the action of this nerve gas , unfortunately, no one could predict the consequences of using this gas at that time. as a result of the operation, all the terrorists who were in the building at that time were killed, and released. i accidentally ended up
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in crimea during the liberation of crimea, and then odessa happened, for me this is probably the beginning, when something switched, i was killed by a beautiful, big plane, i think that it hurts her a lot, but she doesn't scream, she sings, she really wants to live, a battle mage, that is , i am kind of weak in myself, but my magic is powerful, so what? let's go, come on, war does not tolerate anything unnecessary, not everyone can do that either, well, when a man, that's understandable, yes, here's a girl, she came with strength to the box, took a guitar, with us there with one mizka she slurped, this makes her native, a volunteer, yulia checherina is awarded a medal for participating in a special military operation.
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often devalues ​​what he does, the idea of ​​acting skills, dad despite his enormous professionalism, it would seem, the life of an actor was a success, but with enormous popularity was
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never tried to change, he arrived almost at the moment of our son's birth, i was under anesthesia, i had an emergency cesarean, with children, without children, but i think that these are families, such are five families, exclusive with dmitry borisov, premiere, next saturday on the first, on the air of the first channel podcast everyone wants to fly, i am its host, leonit gubovich, we continue tell about... the history of one of the legendary special forces, group a, group alpha, of the federal security service of the russian federation. next: terrorist attack in beslan: on september 1, 2004, in school number one in beslan, a group of chechen militants under the command of khuchbarov, ruslan khuchbarov,
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who was carrying out the order of shemil basayev, took hostages, among whom, as you understand, were students, parents of the teacher. the terrorists had thoroughly known the plan before that , they had handed it over, they had studied it thoroughly, this allowed they were to seize the school in a few minutes. so, having driven the hostages into the building, the terrorists forced everyone to hand over photo and video equipment, as well as mobile phones, which they smashed on the spot, right there, outside. cctv cameras were installed in the school, and ammunition, heavy weapons in huge quantities, explosives were unloaded from the lawn from the gaz-66, the building was blocked, the windows were smashed, the terrorists initially decided, well, they deprived those who
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would try to liberate this school. of the opportunity to use gas, as it was made during the liberation of the center on dubrovka, they simply smashed all the windows. the only place where the windows remained tightly closed was the gym. homemade explosive devices were installed in very large quantities at the entrances in the corridors. in the gym , explosives were laid out on chairs. suspended from basketball hoops in two cables that were stretched between each other. after receiving a message about the capture, the director of the fsb of russia at that time nikolai patrushev gave the order to send a unit of the center for special purposes to beslan assignments. the first operational combat group
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of the fsb special purpose center, which was stationed in vladikavkaz, arrived in beslan. approximately an hour later. later , it was joined by a unit of the special purpose center from moscow, khankala and yasentuki. the total number of employees of the special purpose center who were involved in the operation to free the hostages was approximately 250 people. the first demands of the terrorists were voiced by hostage larisa mamitova. she was released.
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"if they kill any of us, they wrote, we will shoot 50 people, if they wound any of us, we will kill 20, if they kill at least five of us, we will blow everyone up, turn off the lights, or the connection for at least a minute, we will shoot 10 people, such a note, but the phone number was written with an error." for some mysterious reason, it was not possible to establish contact with the terrorists. at 16:00 and 16:30 minutes during these half an hour, explosions thundered in the building and shots were heard, one of the terrorists blew herself up next to the hostages, as a result of the explosion, they received severe injuries,
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the militants who were nearby, and the hostages who remained alive were shot by the terrorists, in order to avoid resistance, after some time, mamitova ran out again and again passed on the note, this time the number was indicated correctly. so, in an attempt to professionally negotiate with them, vitaly zanionov negotiated, to clarify the situation, the militant, who called himself a shahid, said that the hostages were killed because they did not contact the captors on the phone number that they had passed on before, i repeat, there was a number with an error, further during the telephone conversation the terrorists demanded to... negotiate with the presidential adviser aslambek aslakhanov, but only as part of the group of people they had previously indicated. on september 3, at approximately 1 p.m.,
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two powerful explosions thundered in the school building, then a fire broke out, as a result of which the building partially collapsed. after the first explosions , hostages began running out of the school. at 3:00 p.m. the alpha unit began storming the building from three sides, one of the first to break into the school was a group of operatives led by colonel dimitkina. according to the colonel, the terrorists were very well armed. and a huge number of all sorts of traps were set up in the school. by 6:00 p.m. the evacuation was completed. but the resistance of the militants was suppressed only by midnight, in total more than 300 people became victims of the terrorist attacks,
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including 186 children, over 800 people were wounded, major perov - a hero of russia posthumously, major malyarov and ensign, laskov and seven people of the vympel fighters, responsible. some subtleties of those actions, which we today we told you briefly. on the air of the first channel there was a podcast everyone wants to fly,
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i am its host, leonid yakubovich. hello, this is a podcast of ezenshteyn's witnesses. its hosts are film historians, natalia ryabshchikova and stanislav didinsky. in this podcast we talk about why it is now necessary to watch forgotten, little-known, popular, cult soviet films, how to discover new meanings in them, get even more pleasure. in order to do this, we look into the secrets of film archives, re-watch old films, sometimes talk to current cinematographers. today we will talk about the 105th anniversary of the all-russian state institute of cinematography, and in order to do this, we invited three graduates to the geek, this is alexander kott, this is nikolai levvidev and ivan ferdovsky, hello,
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hello, we as historians, of course, like to get to the very beginning, we will say, here are 105 years, 1919, the most inappropriate time to open the world's first film school, absolutely inappropriate, at first they tried to immediately shoot films, here something it worked. then the film ran out, the first release took place in the twenty-seventh year, that is, 8 years passed, at the same time, if we talk about such cult directors, actors, cameramen, well, those who are known to the average viewer, yes, we, probably, in 90 cases out of 100 will come across a person who either studied at vgik, or taught there, or passed by, such a lot happened then also considered himself an old geek, well, yes, this also happened. therefore, our first question, of course, it seems that in geek, understandable business, it was always there, everyone knows it, but how did you first hear about this educational
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institution, how did you choose it? and absolutely no one, it's impossible to believe, an empty wilhelm pieck street, not a single person leaving or entering avik, and i'm happy that there is not a single person, because if someone had left, god forbid, i would have fainted, i sat down on a bench, back then there used to be a bench at the entrance, and i had an eight-millimeter movie camera with me, an amateur one, i took it out and began to pay close attention to look at it, to do something with it, as if pretending that i was busy with serious, serious
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concern. but at the same time i felt only one thing: this is in kiik, i am here, well , i was 15 then, probably, it was before admission, that is, you wanted to go to the directing department, i wanted to go to the directing department of course, but unlike sasha, unlike ivan, i failed miserably, and well, the crash was not so loud, because - we took written exams at first, and i passed them, when i had to sit like this... talk to marlen artemovich khutseyev, look into his eyes so huge behind thick glasses, here my tongue stuck to the roof of my mouth and i flew, many years later i was telling this story to marlyan martynych, suddenly he somehow turned so pale, and he was the most charming person, wonderful, completely in geek, a teacher in geek, he says: forgive me, please, i say, marlen martynovich, dear, this was one of the most important lessons in my life, maybe if i had entered then, i would not
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have worked in ... but i would not have become a director, and thanks to you, i'm here, such a paradox, yes, alexander, and how about you, how many times, that's all, no, i was the second time, the first time i prepared hard, read a lot of literature, entered marlin, because i loved his films, in general and it's not about that, it's just that this year there was some kind of recruitment, i watched very little in the cinema, now i'll explain, because then it was impossible to watch a movie, there was a cinema museum for the elite. at that moment i got a job there to watch movies, i carried films from white pillars, but really the person who i'm going to enter the povik, there was nowhere to watch a movie, especially historical ones, that is , the soviet video rental began, and that video rental was jackie chan, bruce lee and all this history, so going to the cinema was a cultural event, and it is clear that i watched russian cinema, well, soviet and did not see a single foreign film in principle, well , except for these, that is, who is
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venders, who is i did not know at all. and i entered because i was engaged in photography and was not taught anywhere and to this day, maybe now it turned out that this profession of photographer appeared, well, there wasn't a single university in the country on the territory of the huge soviet union, where there was such a profession as a photographer with a diploma, who was and was the head of an amateur film and photo collective at the institute of culture, where i entered at first, then it turned out that all the film clubs had fallen apart, photo clubs, and so on, it was a photo... it doesn't matter, such a profession didn't exist, as it turned out, and after the bag i just found out that there is a film entered, the first time i didn't enter, also to khutsiev, also a touching conversation, i i always want to, i wanted to hug him, talk to him, because for me it’s some kind of space, i entered vladimirovich, it was his first recruitment, i entered because
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for some reason he was recruiting in october. i , by the way, also already, and i understand that only the last name helped me, well, that is, everyone stumbles over the last name, and the last name arouses interest, so no matter how they don’t leaf through these creative folders, but then he took it and for the first six months i thought that i for a couple of years thought that i was taking someone else’s place, well, that is, i think, god, how am i deceiving everyone, what am i director, well, because there was no such cultural background around me at all, a courier in a film delivery service on umkley... doesn't even know about my existence, i delivered shells, roughly speaking, with yaufs, yes, these big ones, yes, then medvedev was in the solovey movie theater, well , that's where he worked, we were allowed to watch on the balcony and the first foreign film that i wanted, after which i wanted to apply and become a director, oddly enough, was the film delicacy, a fairy tale about everything, you laugh, you cry, i watched it 10 times
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this is a movie. i wanted to make a movie like this, like black humor, i realized for the first time that such a genre exists, and so it was possible to make a delicacy, we had an assignment to make a remake, well, not a remake, but a kind of remake and reshoot five-minute fragments and i shot a scene from this movie and mersbikin played this local, very similar, he was a student then, well, such a, remember andrei, remember, so uh it was easy without any of these shakes from the second, and the first time i prepared and just, well, there was a feeling that i i saw a monument , it was really just impossible to be near morilim vantovich, because this one was arising. a sticky feeling of admiration, delight of cowardice. ivan, well, you are the only ones here who got in the first time, it turns out, i am lucky, because at some point in school i realized that i wanted to be a director, it so happened that my father, he is a
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documentary film director, but i really liked how he lives in general, that he somehow always goes somewhere with his friends to shoot, and all the parents come home tired after work, so they lie down on saturday, on sunday too, somehow i thought that in my opinion, it’s somehow very... i watched a movie, studied everything that i needed, but as a result, i understand that the masters even laughed at me a little, because i was just throwing some knowledge at them, that i saw this, i saw this, i watched everything, take me, it turned out that i got in the first time, but you had an unusual workshop, you recruited then a teacher alexey efimovich, something connects his life, i just liked the way of life of documentary filmmakers, how they are in general, how they live and what they do, and it seemed to me
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that alexey fimovich is such a very interesting mix, in that his initial career is connected with exactly this kind of classic documentary film, and it was all incredibly interesting to me, in the game somehow i didn’t even consider it for myself, it just turns out that all three of our guests represent different directions of the educational process in geekdom. alexander is feature, artistic cinema, nikolai is the film department, yes, maybe not everyone knows about that, i graduated from the film school i teach as yes, well of course, it's just an unusual experience, yes, all film critics dream, well many film critics, yes, they dream that someday they will move into feature films, well, how is it there... for gadar, these french film critics and so on, but you have a completely separate path, unlike anything else, actually our question is how much experience you have, each of you of you helped you in your future career,
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yes, the cinematic experience, this knowledge, baggage, the viewing experience that you received at the film museum at vgik, how did all this help you in your work later, how useful is a geek place really?
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naturally, there was a preliminary competition, but since i passed, i thought, well, okay, i'll go, and at that time i was studying at moscow state university, at the journalism department, i thought, well, i'll go, okay, well, i 'll pass one exam, i'll show them that... i can pass exams, i came, you don't prepare, ivan, you prepared, i came like you, when, when i took the exam for the second time, i sat down, wrote something, realized that it would be a fail and left , got an a, then, well, okay, i'll take the second exam, and so i rolled up to the final, i kept thinking whether to enter or not, but in the end i settled in ovgik, i must say, i don't know about you guys, for me it's despite the fact that, as i said, i studied in different educational institutions, in geek, it is really absolutely special, there is such a feeling of internal freedom, not everything is permitted, but precisely freedom, a feeling of real brotherhood, communication with teachers who are not such strict mentors, yes, but completely sincere friends
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who listen to you, who take an example from you in something, prompt you, if something is not from somewhere above, but very humanly, and this is incredibly enriching. this is of course a completely unique world, and it seems to me that it is important to be able to read mastery and then implement it in your life. we will return to the topic of workshops, because really the question, which seems to me, is very important in relation to history, in general, in relation to how experience is transmitted in cinematography, one name that has not yet been mentioned, but which is naturally known to everyone, even if i don’t know, has seen one film in life. this is the name of torkovsky, we have a fragment from his
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diploma work, it seems to me that this is what is shown, in my opinion, on september 1st to each generation of geeks in the assembly hall, to show that yes, this is how it is, this is the atmosphere, let's watch a little.
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in the new season on the first, and excuse me, do you happen to be at the evening service, no, excuse me, forever laugh. this is a common vocalist, there will be another solo, attention,
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please, he has gone crazy, it is impossible to sing, attention, this is a podcast witness lizenshteyn, in the studio are his leading film historians, stanislav didinsky and natalia ryabchikova, and today we are talking about the hundred and fifth anniversary of the world's first film school of the all-russian state institute of cinematography, there is a wonderful story about torkovsky and khutsyev.
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further, well, really different, different eyes,
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another generation, so it is absolutely normal to give them a reason to lie, that this is for them i like it, very much, well, it’s still visible, so no, the workshop is something else, it’s a kind of community, which you bear responsibility for, we’ve had the workshop for 5 years, you’re personally responsible for these people you’ve recruited, you’ve ruined someone’s life, you personally, because you made a mistake and accepted him, so it ’s like this... a wonderful broth that we’re cooking in, and it’s, how can i explain, it’s bad and good, because in all film schools different masters come there and you jump from... one to another to seminars, and here, as it were , this community exists, it’s very it's interesting because it's mutual, you vampirize them, they vampirize you, you mutually enrich each other, and it's a thrill when you see the result, well, because if you recruited it, it's still there, i was born and wanted to be a director from the age of 3, and then he has a wonderful diploma
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for a person and now he's already filming and you think, my god, maybe he really wanted to be a director from the age of 3, when you have some results on... you get the feeling in your eyes that you are growing, while we do not recruit similar people to ourselves, we are all different, absolutely, moreover, we try to recruit people who are not like us, because we have a strong team, well, with volodya, sanya fenchenko, there is no task to raise, that means 20 kittens, which, oh, you are just oh, like ezenshtein, he said, i do not want to breed ezen puppies, and you have wonderful kittens, so this is a wonderful family, a kind of parallel life that exists, including inspiring. scares and pleases, that is, this system of workshops, personal responsibility, nothing can compare with this, no education system, i think, this is a very complex story, sasha, this is your second, third workshop, third workshop, i did not give up for a long time, vladimir sergeevich malyshev, wonderful
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, rector in gika, wonderful leader who gathers everyone so carefully, and he kept pushing me to recruit a workshop. i said, no, no, no, and i was really very busy, but trouble happened, sergei alexandrovich solovyov passed away, and smart, cunning, malyshev called me the next day, said, well, you can't refuse either, and i really couldn't refuse, the situation it's always difficult because, you're talking about responsibility, but in front of the people you 've gathered here, these nightingales who just came to vgik, and who - this was the second year. who just started to get their wings, suddenly the ground was pulled out from under their feet, and it was incredibly difficult for them, my personal task was only one: it remains: do no harm, do whatever you want, i can tell you my opinion, be careful, this doesn't mean that i'm right, but my opinion is this: i listened to you, a very interesting story, i'll have to take it
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me on board, yes, to reshoot a piece, but in fact, for me, let's say, as a person who learned from other people's films, it was important... when i went to seminars with other directors, to mita, let's say, it was important for me to hear how they filmed this or that picture, and i show my opuses, while i do not count on praise, but i say, here i made such and such a mistake, pay attention, it is better not to make it, here in production there was such a difficulty, what is not visible on the screen, i can tell you about it, and this can help, it helps me in any case, it seems to me, that's the most important thing i said about this...
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yes ivan, do you also teach at vgik or do you? i work at the hse school of design, and this is of course a slightly different experience and yes, that's how geek experiences are transmitted to other platforms, roughly speaking, well, to be honest, i'm sad, because we have so many children coming after school, and i just miss this kind of diversity of some kind of audience that i had when i was studying, because there were guys who entered the institute at 35 years old, and there were those who after school this kind of transfer of experience. due to age it also happens inside the workshop just at our hse after all well , like children after school very many need to be told in general what cinema is, why they came here and in general who they want to become, this is such a given, which is very interesting, but my students mean...

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