corresponded, for me it was such a romance, but whether it was childish, i don’t know, and what did you read? and i read quite a little until high school, i was more attracted to mathematics and the exact sciences in general, i somehow strangely then ancient mathematics became in this direction, i read what my peers read in order to be cool, fashionable, no, not cool-fashionable, but in order to find a common language, in order to communicate. sometimes teachers brought us something and prompted us, i remember that in high school, for example, i read marquis, and this there was a lot of discovery, then we had a lot of books, which everyone passed from hand to hand, there were such, there were such books, but it’s even awkward to name them now, because in my senior classes we read caelha and talked about the alchemist and his other books, we read richard bach’s a seagull named johnton. and i even understand this and build

some kind of bridge between what we read then, because these are parable things, on the basis of which you could talk about what is good, what is bad, they are very universal, and children's literature is, well, like the little son came to his father and asked the little one what is good and what is bad, yes about this, well, not in the sense of some kind of imposed morality, where there are ready-made answers, this is some kind of combination of the universal modern, on the one hand you have... a clear system of coordinates, not veiled, as in modern literature for adults, on the other hand, you have some kind of world for escaping from your world, that is, fantasy, yes, a combination of such iscopicism, an exit from the real world, in which there are many problems, modern details, with which you yourself associate, it's very cool what you say, in fact i... i think, here is

the beginning of any reading, of any person, i had almost no books at home, i come from a medical family, a military medical family, we were always nomadic, there were one and a half books in the house, everything that i read, i bought myself, so it's very curious how i reconstructed all this , we just had books, and my mother and grandmother, who loved to read, were terribly worried that i didn't read, and my mother invented a wonderful trick, which i... fell for several times, she left a book, attention, life hack from fronskaya, attention, and she left a book of poetry on the table, gomileva, akhmatova, tsvetaeva, severyanin, and somehow, when she left for work, she dropped it, well, this is an adult one, don't read it, yeah, that is, don't read it, yulia opens it and sees, i'm all in something spanish, and thinks, this is cool, this is for adults,

well, we continue our most interesting conversation about where new modern russian writers come from, and how literature lives today, about new genres, about those events that, well, kind of surround the literary process or precede it, all this is incredibly interesting, let's continue our conversation. in the middle of each issue, as you certainly remember, there is a column by the host, well, that is, mine, please. excuse me - it's me, and i

do one of three things: either i show an old book, necessarily from my library, not from a museum, under no circumstances, or i analyze, read a lyric poem, or a fragment of prose, but a book is the most blessed story, yes, because our program is called upon to explain to you, well, why there are still paper books, although they are not very interesting to you, after all why are there people like me who love them and even...

the diary exists in different editions, now there is such a book, this is a modern edition, beautiful, it... was published in ninety- seventh year in the publishing house of the 3rd century, this is also pushkin's diary, but we all the time repeat to you our respected interlocutors that the author of this book is not pushkin, the author of this book is the compilers, commentators, therefore when you simply type control f pushkin's diary on the internet, you see bare text. in twenty-third year two editions were published pushkin's diary, one edition was published in the northern capital, a city... which at different times had different names: st. petersburg, petrograd, leningrad, now st. petersburg again, another in moscow, these books had different commentators, the text is the same, but the commentators were different in the pushkin house in the north, here was boris levovich modzolevsky, a fairly strict

factographer, he has an extensive commentary, but more oriented towards a specialist, in moscow a whole team did all this, these are... names known to philologists, georgievsky, spiransky, sovodnik, shaternikov, this was a commentary that was not so extensive in factual completeness, but more oriented towards the reader, what should the republisher do, what should the one who is going to publish this book now do, you can simply pull the diary from the internet and publish it without comments, the worst option, you can give one of these editions, but in this edition... therefore, if you hold in your hands such a book, it is on the internet, probably, i think, then you can perceive not only the bare text, but you see the history

collective reading of the classic text, and this is the fullness that we need. and not just a flat screen version, read books, dear colleagues, and maybe then you too will become writers, or at least lovers of literature, ivan smiles very sarcastically somehow, because of course, now you will be in the center of attention. ivan, tell me, your book, if i speak so formulaically and provocatively, is a book about not old people who live, well, in the late nineties, early noughties. is perceived, yes, or the two thousandths, as i prefer to say, that's it, but it can be put into two rows, on the one hand, this is the row, well, children without adults, there's lord of the flies by ilim golding, there

's sasha sokolov, in some sense a school for fools, yes, on the other hand, the nineties, well, there 's not the returnee kabakov, so to speak, or the beginning of the two thousandths, about the same era. still, in which row, uh, mainly? is it about time or about young people? about formulas, about universals? probably, it's about everything at once, but i didn't have any clear uh in mind references, in what tradition, i wanted to fit this book, i did not have such a question. probably, somewhere in the back of my mind there was the republic of shkit, which i love very much, uh and how a closed system of young people was shown there.

connections between the arts, but as far as i know, there are attempts to bring together writers of the future crownizers, yes, yes, this is our next step that we want to take, to organize, to organize these pitchings not only for publishers, next time we will invite filmmakers, those who represent film studios, and these could be films based on books, these could be films based on books, or they could be interested at the level of an idea and it is possible...

elena popova is actually not a writer, but a scientist who got into a very cool expedition, unique, she drifted in the ice for six months, studied the ice, she does this, but in addition to her scientific notes, research, she spent these six months making notes, observing herself, how she feels in the cabin, how she feels among scientists, mostly men, how her... there is lined up, that a person, separated from his loved ones and friends, realizes and from these diaries, of which

there were very, very many pages, elena popova's publisher made a coherent, collected book of these is this an action movie or a thriller? this probably belongs to the genre of autofiction, popular now autofiction, friends, autofiction, description of oneself, description of one 's feelings, where does what come from, this book by elena popova 80°, this is for us, for peredelkino such a producer project, because we saw this text, we immediately knew with whom you need to introduce it to which publisher who can make it out of it, that is, there is already a mechanism in advance that, if desired, provided you have talent, will bring you straight to the movie screen, are you planning something like that? yes, i would really like to see my story on the screen, how cool that is, in general, our dear interlocutors, today we have covered a very wide range, as you can see, we began the conversation with the fact that in

russia, in general in the world everything is connected with literature, but in modern literature is arranged in such a way that a lot happens before how it appears, and around its appearance, that is, literature is not only a writer, publisher, critic, reader, but also many other professions, actions, activities, let them sometimes be called: by words that are quite familiar to our ears yankalt or residence, remember the film resident's mistake from the soviet era, there are completely different residents, but it is terribly curious to hear, it is very important to understand that all this is around us, for this conversation i sincerely thank the director of development of the peredelkino house of creativity yulia vronskaya, thank you, julia, that we will see each other again. here more than once and the prose writer playwright ivan bevz, ivan,

thank you very much, i think that there is still something to talk about, to you, our respected interlocutors, as always i say emphatically, read with pleasure, dear friends. i am larisa guzeeva, this is let 's get married, good afternoon, today the brides are natalia, olga and ekaterina, and our groom is yuri, yuri is 55 years old, he lived in germany for three decades as a car repairman, he recently returned to russia on his auto yacht, which he temporarily parked in st. petersburg, is proud that he quit smoking, dreams of getting a parrot, admits that he often bites his lips, warns that he does not eat meat. yuri decided to divorce in the third year of his family life, but for the sake of his children he lived in marriage

for more than 20 years. yuri is sure that in his homeland he will be able to find his happiness with a fair-haired beauty who will be happy to... grow an orchard with him, raise children, cultivate love and respect for each other. hello, hello, glad to see you, yes, i want to give you light, you are fair-haired, we have beauty, how did you manage to get out of this european quagmire, where you were sucked in for 30 years, you get used to good things quickly? yes, fate worked out that way, 30 years ago i left kazakhstan, well , many people left kazakhstan and orenburg, ethnic, you are german, no, i am not german, i am russian, but i met my wife at that time, she is an ethnic german, and that means, they were still in the time of catherine, oh, listen, well, i am

from the urals, orenburg, in our class there were kazakhs, tatars and germans, by the way, in kazakhstan you could say, all nationalities, probably in general, well, we are on the border, but it turns out he came from germany, that is , to his homeland, it turns out, yes, yes, yes, i understood that it is here that he wants to meet his happiness, apparently something did not work out for the person there, so you come there, to what city, not far from munich, the city of waldkraiburg, yeah, yeah, i came , got a job, got married, went to work, they gave me a passport, i have a passport. kazakh citizenship, i did not want to change it, because you do not have a german passport, i do not have a german one, but there is a residence permit, a residence permit, that is, the same thing, yes, you have a permanent permit, you just can't vote, everything else is european, everything is correct, just so balanced, balanced, conscious, here you live, you can, how many

children have you given birth to, i have two daughters, they are already quite grown up, they have learned their son, well, yes, how can you do without the language? i need it for work, i know everything about ethnic germans who live in germany, i communicate with them, i meet them often, my mother has many students, that is, there are no unnecessary questions i ask, and did you get a job in your specialty or where you were hired, where you were hired, basically it’s hard to go in your specialty, because you need to confirm that some diplomas, well, if there are diplomas, yes, many are left without a confirmed diploma, they don’t want to retrain, if yes, well, i think that... there are no difficulties, it would be desirable to buy, buy housing, yes, over time it happened, your own house, yes, that is, everything is just as they say, what you dreamed about, it happened, why not together, as it sounds trite, betrayal, when there is betrayal, this already means that in the family there is no everything is so smooth, tell me, yura, what are we

supposed to do here, i just know a few couples. where women who came from russia cheat on their husbands, someone turns a blind eye to it, because they don't take it out of the house, but bring it home, forced, yes, and they wipe men's feet there, because it's much easier for women in germany, against the background of germans, put on a short skirt, stilettos, do their hair, women have arrived, russian women, bright, all dress beautifully, take care of themselves, unlike nemag, who wear sneakers, jackets. their hair is not dyed, well, that's what you're talking about, yes, so of course the germans, drinking beer, yes, look at these russians passing by, and lick their lips, that is, there is nothing to do there to find a partner, well, yes, in general, that is , it probably happened to you, yes, yes, it was after 3 years of our life together, but she cheated on you before the birth of the child, before

the birth of the child, how did you find out, well, also just as banal. actually, during the new year's holiday, ethnic russians gather at this time to celebrate the new year cheerfully, in general, and well, well, well, how can i say, and it's almost unnoticeable that you're not in your homeland, at one such celebration, which means my wife left with another man, well, as if in front of your eyes or you were told, i was told, i was prompted. yes, i was prompted that your wife left there with a man, you quickly prevent this matter, so that nothing bad happens, well, i... i took it as a joke, well, i think, just in case, i 'll keep an eye on it, i've never encountered betrayal in my life, so thank god, i, thank god, do not understand his feelings, i walked steps,

probably 20-30 behind, well, the fact that it was night, i was not visible, i also approached the door, waited, waited for a moment, if anything, the doors of my house, no, at that time it was an apartment, a rented apartment, well, yours, ours, well, not my own. yes, well, it doesn't matter where you lived with your wife, yes, this is the apartment, that is, not his apartment, not some other one, exactly our apartment, well, supposedly then they went, supposedly because they forgot something there, that this needs to be brought for the holiday, to change clothes or something else something, well, it happened that when i knocked on the door, they waited for a minute, probably about a minute passed, and well, by the rustling i heard that there was a toilet right across the street, by the rustling of the front door, so i realized that someone had gone into the toilet, then they opened the door for me, so this guy opened the door, and his face was red,

he was smelling something like alcohol, yurochka, i was also red when you ali plus he said my heart, something was wrong with my heart, i mean he undressed because of his heart, well, maybe he then quickly got dressed, that yes while i was getting dressed also here is redness and... this, but after some time my wife came out, she was in a robe, well if for some reason they went, i also calculated, why change a robe, so that later in a robe to go out on a naked body, well, but then everything became clear, she was sober, no, we, probably, no one was sober at that moment, because this holiday was still going on, i think, and such things are not done sober, maybe not, well in general i... spontaneously jumped out, in fact, he only suspected, he did not see her with another a man, i don't know, but it seems to me, such

information, maybe if he wants, he will share about it, but again such, well , endure, but you think, was there something there or did not have time, there was something, then they proved the subsequent actions, then, because this was not the first time, then in the future it happened systematically, how did you find out? well , what is the system, that they are lovers, because there somewhere at someone's on some holiday, they secluded themselves together, they left together, let's say, if you go to look for a wife, then here it is not, why did you tolerate it, why didn't you get divorced right away, because there was nowhere to go, because one, yes, at the beginning i had it that my documents were not processed, because i left on a guest visa, i needed to. was i forced, was i forced? when the child was born, were you sure your dna wasn't done? well, over time i then didn't do such an examination, so as not to frighten the children and

how it is necessary to involve investigative bodies for this, to do an examination, as you know, but i did a different examination, i i did an examination of relatives, this is done all over the world now, one daughter 51%, the other 49%, related, there is no way. well , this is not the case here, by the way, it may not be, well , why not, these are your children, these are my children, well , it is clear, these are my children, yes, although she hinted several times, in such a conversation, somewhere, i say, well, my children are similar to me, there were such conversations when she said, ha-ha, she would laugh like that, but she made fun of you, wiped her feet on you, it is understandable, that's how it happens, usually it is accepted and they say, more often men cheat, yes, and here it turns out, here a woman cheated, this is such a rarity uh.

was no longer with a loved one, like, well, so as not to go left, yes, in general it happened, and then, when the second child was already born, well, i started to study, actually, psychology, an excellent, wonderful man, only he experienced such stress in his life as cheating, and in general now i have a question, to what extent is he ready to trust a woman, ready, tell me, and why did she need it, what? she was not given enough, because she had the same opportunity, unlike you, she had the documents ready, she had a place to live, why did she need to keep you and cheat on you with another person, or maybe

it was convenient, because i... i was away from home for 12 hours, during this time she could study, she worked, well, she didn’t work, she did it for a long time, sometimes for 2 hours, sometimes for 4 hours, then if she brought money into the house, she would have it on her part, for lipstick, i don’t know, for something like that, and you earned well, i did, i think, i did well earned, yes, by german standards, it may be a little above average, but tell me please, and after the second? child, she continued to cheat, yes, and there was already a - a permanent lover, that is, all the same or different, there were several other people who were also somehow fickle, i don’t know, there must be some kind of willpower and character and generally a love of life in the end, in order to continue the relationship in spite of everything, in spite of it, how did you find out, well

, psychology? when you study, you begin to see the person, and the main thing is not to talk about that, what do you see, no, listen, don't tell me about this psychology now, because apart from your intuition, i can say yes, listen, i am absolutely convinced, i already said it once on the program, if it seems to you that mukh is cheating on you, and it doesn't seem to you, well, that's why you know better, but don't attribute psychology here, please, for god's sake, well, there were such cases, because here... at least once she confessed, she didn't say, yes, i'm cheating on you, she confessed, she said it in such a way that no one would know about it, no one would know about it except you, but you still pretended that you had a family, yes, why, when you received the documents, i needed to live until a certain moment, when i gave myself the idea that after the children grow up, i can calmly move away from this, do you think she felt that you do not love her and live with her only because you need to draw up the documents,

and you think that a woman does not feel, except for the first case, how did you hide it? i do not know anything, i do not suspect anything, that the man does not love her, does not respect her, guesses, knows, just like a man understands that he is not loved, he begins to take revenge on the woman, it seems to me that you understood him and lived as, well, so to speak, as at the station, that someone now. "well, no, well , i knew this for myself, i kind of let this situation go and just waited for my moment, it was necessary to discuss what was wrong, what could be improved, and this was already to show that 50/50, this is also his initiative and fault that this happened, there is never one, yes there is never one, yes the guilty one in everything has changed one hundred percent

fault." blaming the wife is also wrong, it means that she didn't get something from him, since this happened, the thing is that i just when i felt this attitude towards me, yes, it turns out to be dismissive, yes, from the first day, even before the birth of the child, she showed you: i don't respect you, i'm cheating on you, i never walk around in front of you in a robe on my naked body, but i do in front of this man, she just shouted at you about that, and is that when you started vegetarianism? yes, well, yes, is it connected with this, why? what is the connection? such a connection, it means that i, when the first days of experiencing all this, i had a rejection of food, absolutely any food, yes, well, i was a little bit hungry, then, when i went to work hungry, yes, i felt that it was easier for me, i could bear it easier, i didn’t have any aggression, maybe i didn’t have the strength, well , probably i don’t know, no, but

it’s easier to bear it at work. that’s exactly it, when you ’re hungry, when you just think about your stomach, and not about what ’s going on there, then i started to get used to it, i started to notice what foods you can eat, what you shouldn't eat, and your health is fine, you have a certificate, you've had a medical examination, and what is a medical examination, i've been out of russia for a long time, i haven't been here for 30 years, well , a medical examination, it's once a year you go to the clinic, see all the doctors, get tested, you know, yeah, well, fine. when i'm stressed, i go to do sports.