it is not clarice stas who notes, someone else, now i am afraid to lie who, it seems to me, simona matslekhanov is talking about this, that this handicraft, it, you are concentrated on some very simple actions, at this moment some very big, important, but still unconscious work is being done inside you, well, you fall into a trance, in this state healing of some parts of your soul occurs restoration occurs, that is, that is, in order to heal, it is not necessary to constantly feel it, that is how it is it healed there, we are already removing the bandage. and not constantly trying to check what is there, how i am doing, but telling fairy tales is a spiritual practice, we can do it, i think that yes, of course, because there are traditions, including how to tell them correctly, even here, well, in russia, yes, for example, the guslars, how they told fairy tales, it was a whole, with a specially designed action, therefore yes, just telling and just listening to fairy tales is already healing, even if.

a person just listens, yes, i don’t think that some mexican migrants had jungian analysis skills, they just gathered around their storytellers, listened, and were healed by this. it is very interesting that one of the fairy tales that clarissa penkolast analyzes is russian, we all know her, vasilisa, who went into the forest to babi iga, and before her death her mother gave her a little doll that gives her tips on how to talk to baba ega, yeah.

she, as i understand it, was adopted by hungarian emigrants in her youth, and her adoptive father brought his own to america - four sisters, these women, hungarian women, they, yes, yes, it turns out, her so-called aunts, they introduced her to this fairy tale, and she taught them english in exchange, that's how she knows it from them, that 's how vasilisa entered, that's how she mixed with her mexican, for example, heritage, what does this fairy tale symbolize? this is a fairy tale about female initiation, because we really have such a problem that the institution of initiations has been lost, i agree, some formal institutions of initiation, well, series there wedding, graduation from school, from university, childbirth, but how did it happen that in the modern world neither a wedding, nor childbirth, nor graduation from university guarantees you initiation, that is, now, as it were , initiation is the work of the initiates themselves, that is, there you need to somehow ...

pulled the skeleton out of the water, tried to run away from it, but since the skeleton was on a fishing rod, it followed him, and then the fisherman hid in a cave, but overnight this woman skeleton. pulled out his heart, began to use it as a tambourine, began to sing, and her body became overgrown with meat, she became a wife for this fisherman, yeah, she became a wife, they found happiness, and this is interesting from the point of view of the psychology of relationships, because in any relationship there comes a moment when we see the shadow of a partner, that is, we see some unsightly part of a person, well, we pull it out, literally fish it out for some reason or other.

with an internal partner, for example, with the animus, for example, the same girl with no arms - this is also a fairy tale about a relationship with the animus, but at the same time, that's exactly what i already did a reference to this phrase to learn from another soul, this is actually from the chapter about the skeleton woman, i think, about the fact that without turning away from a partner, including not just from a partner, but from his shadow, we are also able to receive some very important knowledge, and ... there are also negative attitudes to the book, for example, i read anna kozlova's novel everything you wanted but were afraid to set on fire, and there the heroine at the end sets fire to a number of books that are a must-read for women, and the first one appears to be running with the wolves, that is, why, what do you think,

some people perceive this work negatively, unfortunately, i haven't read the novel by anna herself, so i can't say whether it has any plot-forming significance, namely the burning of larisa estos. but i really met women who didn't like it, and well, literally didn't like it, that is, they started it and such that i just read it, and their main thing was - some kind of motivation, in the sense of justification, why it didn't work for them, they said that they didn't understand anything, perhaps this is due to the fact that the book was written in a poetic language, and the language of symbols, not everyone has access to this language, metaphors, symbols, myths, there are a lot of amplifications, there is a lot of jungian specific terminology, and about... than everyone else, because i clearly remember how i read it for the first time, it was, i was 19 years old, i did not understand anything, but i really liked it, and for some it is possible that since nothing is clear, it

is the same for me, i can’t take anything from there, as if, but in fact, those who cannot take it, because they did not understand, this is some kind of story really about a very logical approach to this book, that i... came as if for a summary of how to be a woman, and clarissa herself, she would just like this knowledge to penetrate women as if from within, through this fairy tale, perhaps through the unconscious, yes, there may be reason here, yes, there really is just some kind of moment - a simple discrepancy, but fairy tales are universal, we are all brought up on fairy tales, but now i don’t know, but our generation and the previous one for sure quite a lot i read fairy tales, a fairy tale turns out to be: such a universal, universal way to tell a person something, yes, to convey some knowledge, but that's the thing, here there is a nuance, that you need to know where this knowledge is located, because children really perceive fairy tales a little differently, for them it is a kind of reality, yes, when we grow up, we become overgrown, including, well, as if

our ego grows, yes, we become overgrown with some knowledge about the world, we have to , as it were, roll back a little, yes, to be able to reconstruct this knowledge through a fairy tale. this is a must -read podcast, i am agla batnikova, we are discussing the book by clarissa pinkova and pathfinder with the wolves with varvara popova, a jungian analyst and writer. it is true that in jungian analysis, there is a point of view that a person is born ideal and complete, and then loses his happiness. rather, not quite so, we are rather born, yes, tabula rasa, we are born a clean slate. at the same time, when a person is born, he he he relates to the archetype of the so-called divine infant, and the divine infant , for example, jung really considers as one of the images of the self, and we rather lose connection with this image of the self throughout life, because different events happen to us, we encounter

different prohibitions, different restrictions, that is, this connection, it is called the transcendent function, and it is rather lost, and it is possible with the help of jungian analysis - to cure physical diseases, depending on which ones, i would of course, of course, first of all the queue recommended to contact first, that is, to work in parallel to contact doctors and... if some symptom really has a psychological, psychosomatic basis, then it really should be carried later, for example, for an analysis, that is , i really like this idea that all illnesses are like a reflection of the state of the soul, yes, it’s not quite close to me, it still seems to me that some kind of combined approach is needed here, that we should treat both physics, but at the same time remember that what is happening to us on physical body, it can also be a message from our soul, accordingly it also needs... to pay attention, and can we say that the book running with the wolves teaches a woman

self-healing? i would say that yes, that is, the reading itself, again from my own experience, i read it several times and the first time i read it, it really was like a strong painkiller, i had a very difficult period in my life, for me it really became something like a strong painkiller, and i really didn’t understand anything, it was very interesting, very it really went over well, already... then, when i was writing my own book, i returned to it with a different perspective, already like, probably, well , partly my colleague, and it was even clearer and more interesting to me, but i have a feeling that running with the wolves, it is addressed to a traumatized woman, we can say that now in modern culture all women are traumatized in one way or another, because the connection with the natural of this primitive woman has been lost, we have several factors here, well, firstly, real statistics of violence against women and children, well, the same judith herman, also a very famous american

psychiatrist psychoanalyst, she notes that the main volume of traumatic, such a harsh traumatic experience falls, for example, on women and girls up to 25-30 years old, well, that is, we already have objective factors, that is, some consequences of psychotraumatic events, we have - in general, such a culture is oriented, well, i call it a narcissistic culture, it is oriented towards external achievements, it is oriented towards compliance with a career, on conformity with the ideal. "and ideally a woman should be a housewife, and make a career, have a wonderful partner, and be beautiful and be ideal, ideal, and at the same time she should be, as we know, smart, but not show it, for example, so that no one feels disadvantaged next to her, that is, in general, as if a collective attitude , it already very strongly drives a woman into certain limits, and this is also in fact, well, it's like you really cut off some parts of yourself alive, so that..." these limits to match, and a man should be tense if he sees that his partner is reading

running with the wolves, will she then start rolling, scratching, rolling on her back or demanding something for herself, it seems to me that if a woman, after reading running with the wolves , starts rolling on the floor, it is not a matter of running with the wolves, perhaps, well, that is, her and her psychological, well, as if her psychological state requires attention. it is clear, that is , not that it reveals any deep in general, this book is quite safe, it layers of the psyche, it reveals, but still not so much, it's a book, because we don't interact, for example, as in some ritual or, even in a therapeutic group with the unconscious directly, we still have a filter in the form of a physical medium in the form of a book, and is there a moment in the book about accepting one's own body, it seems to me, for women this is very important. the chapter about the goddess bauba, about the dirty goddess or about a woman, a dirty goddess - yes, yes, dirty goddesses, she

calls them or about the butterfly woman, and there, actually, around these two goddesses, here is built the thought of clarissa esas about how a woman should treat her body, and how, with great love, how else, accepting yourself any, yes, another question, how to find this love, this is how she reflects, giving an example that indeed, again , culture sets some impossible demands on a woman regarding.

after some time i noticed that there is no wall, that in general, that with certain efforts it is possible to harmoniously exist with these demands, without harming yourself. we can to say that running through dumps is a very useful book for women who are looking for maybe a way out of some difficult situation, from depression, for example, from depression, from reactive depression, which is associated,

i don’t know with someone’s traumatic event, in general, when some difficult periods of life, they happen to women, well, i would say. in general, in moments of maybe some crossroads, yes, when i don’t understand what i want or where i need to go or i don’t know whether to stay in this relationship or get out of it, that is, to hear myself, my desire true, how can a woman work with this book, is it enough to read it on your own or maybe there are some women's groups where you can discuss it, in general , there are many approaches to it, that is, how can you read it, you can read it like a normal book, that is, you open it and go read it in order. and you can read it selectively, many of my friends, they really are practically guessing when they run up with wolves, that is, they are like, well, what do you want to tell me, this time, they open it to a random page, and how the rule is a precise hit, that is, you can read it like this: you can read individual chapters, for example, you have already read them once, you want to go back, some individual chapters that are relevant to you now, then there really

are women's groups and there are quite a lot of different ones who are directly engaged in living these fairy tales, yes, that for whom what kind of blue, who got what kind of blue beard in life and what happened to you later, that is, you can really do it like this, you can discuss this book within the framework of personal analysis, yes, that is, with your psychoanalyst, you can discuss it simply there is such a genre, very curious, joint reading, when several women get together, or... this book, you can fish it out, that is, there are many options, and is it true that after reading a fairy tale that you remember, that is useful for you at the moment, yes, of course, this is how it works, that is, such

a principle of synchronicity is turned on, yes, that what you remembered from this fairy tale is yours, that is exactly what you needed, for example, here again, to write without a pen, and i used it, i used it a lot, when i was preparing my own book about the heroine's path, for example, i remembered two moments from it very well, this is an unsuccessful deal and dual citizenship, now i reread it before our meeting, i think, yes, half of me fell out of this fairy tale, it turns out, really, there is a lot more, and really this is how it works somehow, what you take is yours, well, that is, in this book there are many layers, you can return to it many times. great, this was a must -read podcast, yaglaya nabatnikova, my guest

was varvara popova, a jungian analyst, writer, we discussed the book by larisa pinkola the path running with the wolves. watch all the must-read podcast episodes on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. the most famous of the tsarskoye selo lyceum students, of course, is alexander sergeevichkin.

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