i remember it very fondly since then, because it was soviet, it really struck me then and it was already the end of the nineties, if nikolai's film was ninety -first, by the way, ninety-first before august, no, not even like that, the soviet union or the post-soviet union? it was before august, we finished filming right before, well, we handed over the film right before, that is, it was still straight soviet cinema, the last last last yes, for alexander it was already the nineties, and for a geek of course the nineties were not a very easy time, like... to put it mildly, to put it mildly, there - we were collecting the film piece by piece, leftovers from famous operators who started shooting music videos on film and commercials, just 15, 20 m, it was all on the fly, there was no intent, such pure creativity, it’s not for festivals, not for that, it’s when friends got together, then it’s not a diploma, the diploma scared me, and this...

if you want it without any money at all, my father brought me boiled potatoes to the set, i was terribly ashamed, dad, why did you come, well, you need to eat, we remembered that we really need to eat, well, like when you, well, you just such a physical excitement from the desire to create, then there is a moment that we have all lost now, then you shoot on film, then you wait a week for this development, then they give you the first cut, and you... you go to the canteen and just look at

these eight frames and everything is visible there in black and white, well, as if, and then you sit down at the screen and you are simply washed over by a wave, because what you were doing before this, these are these shoots, they are memories, now everything is completely different, a photographer, that there was a photographer it helped me a lot because i appreciated the frame, there was no continuous shooting then, like this, you have to see, understand, press once, well , like, and the value of the shooting from... frames from the beginning to the stop, it was straight from the beginning to the stop, for me, the first frame was included in the editing and, well, roughly speaking, you felt the time, you felt the composition, you rehearsed it eight times first and so on, something doesn’t work out, that is, such a reverent attitude to the original source of the film in each, especially in a short film, well, when you remove one frame everything is falling apart, it's not like that now, but we try to instill a love for the frame, here, but still these are such games, it would be ideal. if they gave in the first or

second year, the first task to shoot on film in order to simply feel the value of a film frame, we have fragments from a photographer too, so we can just make sure, thank you, yes.

ivan, how did it all work already during the transition from video? when the film was no longer being scolded, because somehow it was already possible to shoot on digital, well, plus i still strove to shoot such documentary film, and just my diploma, we were a little naughty with alexey filmovich, because i had such a pseudo-documentary film, which we gave to the commission as a documentary, everyone took it at face value, gave it an a, then proudly said, so, no, i thought it was a documentary, dog fun, no, no, snow, a documentary, the actress natalya pavlenko starred in it, who later starred in my films, and no one recognized her from the commission, as if no one understood who it was and they thought that it was really like that... a documentary about

a woman who just got into such a situation, let's look at a fragment from the snow, this one before... please take it off, this one is a barrack-type film, i lived in it when i came from saratov, that's how i was assigned after graduating from college, they gave me a room here, there are my windows, those on the edge, a small room of 8 m, all the amenities are outside, water from a pump. we lived so well, well, i got married here by chance, lenochka, my daughter, was also

born here from the maternity hospital, she was brought here, in fact interesting place cool. yes, you wouldn't immediately think that this is really a production, and the methods of documentary, everything as khutseev taught, the methods of documentary filmmaking are used to create an artistic image of feature cinema, it was still the first day of filming, and natalya nikolaevna is a very theatrical actress, i remember that she hated me, because it was the seventeenth take that we were filming, she still didn't understand what i needed from her, i said, listen, just calm down, slow down here, here it's like this also a process that seems to be very, very accidental.

that torkovskiy, because he is known all over the world. listen, well, i would not take the name of gerasimov, because since such a story, a collision occurred, in geek he was named gerasim, after all, it would probably be strange to change, already established traditions, after all, in geek they know gerasim by name, among other things, therefore, it would probably be difficult for anyone to take responsibility for changing. you asked us a risky question.

we are losing the future. and this was the podcast of witnesses from einstein and its leading film historians, natalia ryabchikova and stanislav didinsky. we talk about how to watch your favorite, maybe half-forgotten, unknown soviet films now, and how to find new meaning in them and get even more pleasure. and today we talked about the 105th anniversary of vgik, the all-russian state institute of cinematography, with three of its graduates. alexander kott, nikolai lebedev. and ivan tverdovsky. thank you. this is the easy money podcast, i am its host

mikhail khanov. today the topic of our issue is the myths and reality of passive income. how to create a stable income without active activity. our guest is elena kornilova, phd in economics, associate professor at the financial university under the government of the russian federation. hello, elena. hello, mikhail. well, you know, as my younger children say, the meme passive income is a beach, necessarily sand, sea, palm trees, and if we are talking about remote work or some financial investments, then there is a computer-calculator, yes, is necessarily present, then there is nothing here, that is, complete relaxation, complete immersion in nature, as they say, and the money is somewhere there with... 400 ways to honestly take money from the population, maybe he came up with something like that, but this is not passive income, he worked, he worked, he worked, yes, here, probably, it is necessary to say,

well, to upset everyone who starts watching our podcast right away, that you will not be able to get anything out of the sky, first of all, passive income. a consequence of some of our active actions that took place in the past, yes, which happened earlier and its existence cannot be denied, that is, i will simply emphasize it now for our audience. a simple formulation: passive income is a consequence of our active activity in the past, when we create it, that is , passive income itself, as if by magic, does not appear from anywhere. sorry for interrupting, but for the sake of such a beautiful formulation it was worth it, we can immediately say that it can be created, but for this you need to work. how did our development passive income? well, actually, as we understand, in the middle ages there were landowners, feudal lords, who. leased out land and received rent from it,

that same passive income, that is, they themselves did nothing with the land, but the characteristic one even in this picture, pay attention that the landowner, he is not just lying on the beach, the rent is dripping somewhere there, no, he goes around, checks that the peasants worked on the land, because the land itself will not bring income, where will it come from, that is the peasants must earn so much that they can still pay him rent, that is, in fact , a very illustrative picture. that there is no such thing as just idleness, here you can even add that it was not enough to own the land, sometimes it was unsuitable, they also had to carry out reactionary work, well, at the level that was available then, so that someone could get more income from it and now pay part, you also had to bring in a pair, well, accessible for us, for everyone now, this is a comparison with the task of renting an apartment, before renting it out, you need to do some renovations there so that the cost is higher and people can live in it, so to speak, when the age of the industrial revolution began in the 19th century, the first

companies appeared that began to pay dividends, that is, companies needed development, they attracted shareholders, a method appeared, well, quite well-known now, yes, regarding the method of receiving dividends, due to which, and due to investment, they issued their securities, yes, which now we we call them bonds. do i understand correctly that the company issued loans, well, roughly speaking, paid interest on them, coupon income, the so-called once there in some period, well in a year, that was also the case, but they also attracted owners, namely as co-financing, yes, but here again, if we talk about the fact that this is a way not to work, give money and get it, yes, but again it was necessary, you know, to whom you will give it for what, but nevertheless, if there is a profit, if the shareholders, well, those... the co-owners decided to to divide, then this is a way, well, i wouldn’t call it, to be honest, passive income,

because it’s, well, to put it mildly, hard work, at least for hiring a manager, controlling all the strikes and so on, well, with a stretch , we take the example of the 20th century, in the 20th century, in fact , a more or less well-known situation appeared, when the development of stock exchanges took place , in fact, those very bonds appeared, and let’s say so, probably the most striking such achievement, when the first exchange-traded funds appeared, this is what is very active it is being promoted, especially in the last few years, that passive income is when you don’t choose the companies yourself, take a fund that has already been thought of for you, collected some companies there, you bought the funds of this fund, here it is your passive income, no need, don’t manage, use only this, well, also check, as they say, in the company can...

money in government bonds and i will receive at the beginning of the century, he says that i will invest this such-and-such coupon income, i remember when i first heard this in the theater, i thought, that i have professional deformation, and it seems to me, no, i reread it later, yes , it is indeed so, that is, in the 20th century in russia at the beginning there were such institutions, the consciousness of the middle class was already such that everyone actively uses those very...

and this is work, this is hard, big work, the work of salza, well, sales is sales in english and this is what they call sellers of selza or there spheres of activity, this is very hard work. if it seems to someone that there are cryptocurrencies there, it is a stretch to say, that this is passive income, we are talking about how, that is, passive income is income that does not require active activity, where is there no active activity here, it is full growth, here i would mean that such a thing is built, you know, like a pyramid, let's say, when you attract additional

agents to yourself, let's say under your management, who somehow work, we will not say like a cosmetics network, but still. you must build this network, you yourself must first sell so that people come to you people, there are these formations of dozens, hundreds and so on, sellers under you, but still you have to push them every month, yes, push, stimulate, and it works, it's not like going to some beach, you'll leave somewhere, they 'll all run away and create their own little pyramids, you know, i really liked one example, i don't remember where i read it, how to test passive summer income, and imagine that you fell into a coma for a year, if a year later you woke up. and the income continues to drip, it really was passive, elena, just another bravo, a wonderful , precise formulation, that there is a very simple way to check, i honestly hear it for the first time, to check whether your income is really passive, or whether it requires your participation, there, let's say, you went to the himalayas for a retreat and a program without telephone communication, a year, yes, and

you sit in the mountains for a whole year, talking with higher powers and exactly a year later, as... when you returned, everything should be as you were, in what state you left your financial affairs, they should only increase by the planned amount, if this happened, then your income is completely, absolutely passive, if this didn't happen, then you know how something went wrong, but in general for russia, it seems to me that the most typical, that is, well, talking to even some of my acquaintances, their idea of ​​passive income is that you definitely need to buy several apartments, rent them out, there's nowhere more passive, but this is a sacred topic. for a russian person, yes, that is, real estate, everything, rolling money into concrete - this is our everything, that is, it is necessary that this is the only way we can increase them, but here the most interesting part begins, yes, yes, here simple mathematics begins, everyone wants to buy a one-room apartment in moscow, it doesn’t even matter what region they live in, but for some reason it is figuratively considered that if i have a one-room apartment in moscow, i will be able to rent it out, then i will, so to speak, provide

myself with a comfortable old age, yes, well, such a modern one, well, let’s take the outskirts somewhere in moscow, well, not very far from the metro, so that really such... really, let’s say , this apartment costs about 8-8.5 million, rent, let's say, is somewhere around 35-40,000, and if we just include regular math, well, let's skip these inflationary, just banal things, then only in about 18 years will you start receiving it, that is, the payback of these investments is about 18 years, and we haven't even taken into account that, firstly, tenants tend to move out because they don't like it, yes, that is, we haven't included downtime here yet, yes, you parted with one tenant and wait there for a month, but in the best case, while calculating, if you just put 8 million there in state top there three banks, you will get 18 per annum, i am here to all lovers of investing money in real estate, burying yes, because in fact the modern generation, here are the youth, they generally

, my younger children, well, the middle ones there do not even think about buying apartments, why well... another thing turns out that even when in principle deposit rates were not very high in banks, renting out an apartment was comparable to a deposit in a bank, but at the same time we do not need to sort things out with neighbors, who flooded whom, our tenants or not our tenants, he threw some kind of party there, again the whole house was turned upside down, by the way, elena, a great example of passive income, a deposit in a bank, that is, everything is exactly as you have formulated it, first you spent a sufficient amount of effort. to earn this money, then, here in its pure form, you take it to the bank, up to 1,400 under the deposit insurance program, the state guarantees you that you will get this money back, let's assume we consider such amounts smaller, that is, you have a full guarantee from the state that the most passive income, here you

do nothing at all, that is, the only action that is needed is now you don’t even need to go to the bank to fill out documents. it was work, now it’s all done there with two buttons in the application, you open a deposit, that’s it, you don’t do anything else, you don’t even need to close it, because it closes automatically if you ticked the box, the conditions are closed, and in a year you will receive, well, now your 18%, here is a typical example of passive income, this is so, if we remove such a concept as inflation from the equation, because mostly deposit rates, well, now of course the situation, as if we would remove it a little, which... passive income is what should help us later, well, there, provide a good old age, yes, that is x2, yes , in relation to inflation, yes, that is, we must understand that we will start spending it, and

the capital must be renewed, there are actually two classic such methods, when we have capital and we eat it up later over the course of life, when we we can no longer work actively, or the capital must be of such a level that its income allows us to withdraw part of it and add part back, so that this capital continues to grow, so to speak, the question immediately arises, where to get that very initial capital? i would say that there really is no magic pill, if we consider the financial component to be the starting capital, yes, then there are definitely no other ways, but the starting capital, if we expand the concept a little, is essentially our knowledge, our professional skills, which more we for ourselves...

everything that is possible, i had to sell everything that i had, at that moment his sister, just starts to be aggressive towards me, because she was just his push, asked me to apply for a loan, how much did he ask? 300, i open the closet where i kept my 8 million, i understand that it is just paper. premiere, manipulators on saturday on the first. are you lying to yourself or to me? well , i'm not lying to you. this is the easy money podcast, me

and its host mikhail khanov, we continue the conversation about whether it is possible to create a passive income without the active participation of the one creating it. by the way, another example of passive income, if this can be attributed to passive income, is copyright.

they think that you have rented everything out, and the money is coming in, well, first of all, here is what you said, that there is a shift change between tenants, yes, therefore your task is to work with the tenant so that he does not have the thought of moving out, you must communicate with him, you must understand his pain, yes, you must understand his aspirations and so on, the second point is that you need to keep your means of production, which is this real estate, in order, i just know people who own several premises there, they have... offices, that is, they create a company to manage these real estate objects, they themselves control only this company, but there are five to six people working there

who are engaged in the fact that yes, there is a way to hand it over to trust management, well, that is, there are such specially educated ones, that is, you have, for example, one apartment there, i don’t want to deal with it myself or it’s in another city, ordinary apartment, we find a management company, but here again we need to understand, we will have to share the income, how much is left there. again it didn’t happen, what else can be from what can be called passive income as close as possible to a bank deposit, where you don’t need to do anything at all, really, i would still say that this is a scary word that many there don’t understand, diversification is our everything, well, roughly speaking, we don’t put our eggs in one basket, that is, do we have some capital or are we only forming it, we put part of it in the bank, for some we bought, let's say, good government bonds. some, perhaps, if we still have some left, bought some real estate there, which we can also rent out, then it works out for us, we reduce the risks that we

kind of have, we take off the vest. we earn it, here, unfortunately, my dears, there is no miracle, you yourselves are your own means of production, you either work yourself, or organize the work of others, if you are an entrepreneur, accordingly, as soon as you receive capital, then you need capital, so that the income from this capital covered, well, at least yours for life, so yes, well then this problem of conditionally non-passive income begins, we still need to manage it, that is, large capital, it still requires

management, that's the way. actually, do you live in this state? well, we all understand perfectly well that the situation with our, at least the pension fund, is developing in such a way that the probability of receiving a pension for young people, it is still decreasing, yes, some kind of social there of a state-determined size, minimal, it may exist, but this is with a very optimistic belief, it is necessary to live life does not want to have children, elderly people in age are becoming more and more less

and less. mershem and will prepare, but let's yes, let's agree that the pension we will consider it passive such an original, here as a contribution, in fact these are two pure examples here directly exclusively here from the point of view of definition, yes, as i say mathematically exactly fits the definition, yes it fits, when we have created sources of income, here constant monitoring, control , asset management, and if you have completed all three stages, well,

we find out that, conditionally, you can... afford to work less than others, well, for a woman there is always the option of getting married successfully, oh, a great example, a wonderful example, elena, and marriage is passive income, you know, and i met one such, let's say, a housewife, who in the end, when her husband tells her, well, you're not doing anything anyway, she got all worked up, wrote out, went to the sites where work wrote that so... the services of a housekeeper cost this much, and the services of, you know, a housekeeper cost this much, a nanny for the children cost this much, in the end it turned out that she earned almost incomparably more than her husband, working at home, you know, i have four children, but thank god they are of different ages, here are the two youngest, i once, when they were very small there, well , three to five years old, i stayed with them there for almost a week alone at home, my god, i

was counting the days, the hours, when he would return, it’s not interesting, yes, that is, this is also a huge work, if it seems that all this is easy there, but no, as soon as you relax, then again it turns out that there is no easy money, no easy money, even here, especially in startups, yes, that's also an easy topic, you invested and wait for it to take off, it won't take off,

even on purpose. and not only money in the project, control, evaluation of teams, evaluation of prospects, this is also hard work and the main thing is that it is constant, it is not like you once evaluated everything, everything flew, for business angels - this is generally, i would say, this is even their main job, that is this is for people who have capital, who want to increase it, but to choose a project, this is again very difficult, they are also engaged in the same diversification among these projects, absolutely, this is a deep examination, a very deep examination. and not everyone has access to this, i mean that elena just had a very simple slide, yes, diversify, in fact , diversification, it seems so simple, here we said there part in the bank, part in the apartment, part there, yes, in the best case, as we discussed, this covers

inflation, it turns out, we are talking about the fact that our capital is decreasing, well, given that we are all different there and by temperament and experience, people also perceive very poorly in principle that it is necessary to invest there, for example, in different assets, yes, and... well, by the nature of my work i often communicate with different people, so i can even, you know, divide them into several categories, there are such conservatives, i will only bank deposits, that's it, i don't believe in anything else, and then this person will be the first in line when some rumor goes that ours is big there the green one won't give money to anyone, that's it, he'll be the first one at the atm to withdraw this money from there, and there's the second category - all these stock markets of yours, this... it's all bullshit, only real business, now i'll go to my friends, now i 'll give them some money, i'll invest in their projects, that's where the money lives, that's where you can earn money, these are the ones, as i say, risky guys, you can tell them as much as you like about

bonds and investing in stocks, they'll never buy them, never, but there are those who those interested in what shares you have there, yes, well, that's interesting, that's interesting, i'll download it as an application, put 10,000 there, and the minus goes, it works, it doesn't work, it doesn't work, what do you have to invest in the business, you say , yes, and how much do you need, well, well, well, no, that's somehow too much, you want too much , no, that's not there either, he's been going there for years, yes, he's doing nothing, he's just interested, yes, there are those who, as we've already said, this is a separate category, only concrete, only concrete, by any means ways to take out a bunch of mortgages, find money, buy a bunch of real estate, like the king of the mountain , sit on this real estate,

the category of encasing everything in concrete, these are people who believe only in buying real estate and tell stories like my parents bought this one-room apartment in the nineties, look how much it costs, and how many crises, and it costs, and how many people bought it in the 2000s and in the end it lost half its value in dollar terms, despite the fact that there are those who are at this peak, this sharp boom there from 2000 to 2004, well, i just myself. i remember there an apartment cost 100,000 dollars there 110, and it became 650, just six times, well, actually six times in 4 years, there i know a lot of examples of guys who worked as analysts, who went, took out

several mortgages, bought one-room apartments there in the cities there sputnik, there, so to speak, there dolgopudny, lyubertsy mytishche, they grew in price five times, accordingly they paid this mortgage there, and then they closed it at once and received capital. well, that is, if we want to form some capital, we need to start to understand even the same bank deposits, that is, we need to understand how the deposit insurance agency works there, and what are systemically important banks, where in what services, now, thank

god, there are many, you can look at more favorable rates, because well, really, even with current rates, where in principle everything is not bad, you can always find where it is better, i will give you a very simple example. systems yes, there is green, and yellow, red, yes, that is, they have electronic cards in all systems, they have a main card, and it doesn't matter which bank, they use the financial card of this ecosystem in each of these marketplaces when using the services of a particular ecosystem in order to get the maximum cashback, they just opened my eyes, i got all these cards, now i have nine or 10 icons in my wallets. per month it turns out well there's 10%

there calmly absolutely very well it works really well it works fantastic i recommend everyone to open as payment tools in each ecosystem there is a payment instrument in each to pay for services services of this ecosystem only this card receiving an additional cashback of 10% just here in the forehead you save 10% and at the same time there you can also choose different categories of cashbacks for each, but personally i always make screenshots for myself. from the screen in which, well , in which bank do i have, well, if they give such an opportunity, people spend on marketing, why not take advantage, who are you, major larin, who is alexey nilov, a star of the nineties and noughties, captain larina serials street of broken lanterns opera, chronicle of the combat department, my father did not really insist that i enter the theater institute, not on principle, because he knew that it was a difficult profession, we filmed 3 + 2 in 1962, it would seem that the life of an actor at ...

i had an emergency cesarean section, with children, without children, but i think that these are families, such are five families, exclusive with dmitry borisov, premiere on saturday, on the first, in the new season, on the first, rumors about this crime are already circulating in the city, wherever you go, they say everywhere, women are lured into taxis and shot in the back, i wanted to ask you about your find, it's...

after the war i was looking for a colleague of mine with a son, i was interested in what happened there at the end of the war, and anything could have happened there , you don't have any photos of kolya, it's strange, where are they, were they here, oh my god, how... my son looks like mine, you are the only real witness, the only person he came to openly. well, major, has the hunt begun? confrontation, premiere of the legendary book by yulian semyonov. it's podcast easy money, and i am its host mikhail khanov, we continue the conversation about stable income without active management. elena, what advice do you give to beginners, actually,

where to start? actually, you need to study both finance and investments and i would say, the most important thing here is to immediately moderate your ambitions a little, that is, some people come, i need passive income, i want 200,000 a month of passive income, yes, let's start with the fact that you learn to provide for yourself, well, at least 5-10,000 for started, no one says that you have to live on this, you will learn to do them conditionally passively. mistake i will now put in my 20 kopecks, everyone thinks that well, we can’t do it on kopecks, and if we are given several million now, then we are like wow, this is especially true for speculation on the stock exchange, everyone says, well, this is because 5-10 thousand, what am i saying and i assure you that you will treat a million, 10 million, 100 the same way, if you lost 10,000, you will lose 100 million, learn to do at least 12 out of 10 thousand with 10 12 and you will perfectly learn how to make two million out of 1 million, but to start. you need to start with this, yes, we start small, that is, small

investments, experiment with different sources of income, well, you probably also saw this trend, with just a thousand rubles, start there and then of course, when i see this advertising i want to kill the people who make it, yes, but i really know people who believe in it, and that is , when you start explaining that you won’t make a million with a thousand rubles, with a thousand rubles you can start learning how to work with money in general, how this tool works, how... i say, when you start trying something, and you allocate an amount that you don't mind losing, all of it, yes, yes, because investments are associated with risk, you need to understand this from the start, if you want to have something more, you need to take this risk, accept it for yourself and then start acting, so we start with a small one, that's great again, today we have built an excellent scheme with you, we open cards in the ecosystems of various banks, we receive from them cashback, actually we form a minimum start-up capital to start using other instruments, well, yes, we don’t

spend it on discos and so on, other temptations of life, we can start with the fact that you all say, where to get start-up capital? which even on all the cards that i carried that i communicated with one young man with me was clearly signed what he spends them on and he per month per month well, of course, he had big expenses i immediately say this cashback received 64,000 rubles well this is necessary spend 600 a month 600 i immediately get to the point that you can just spend 600 or you can get 64,000 back.

by 30%, then it grows, yes, the main thing is, you don’t know why, yes, somewhere, somehow, something happens that it grows like this, and for all those who, like the advert elena mentioned, look at the stock market as a means of quick enrichment, here was a great example of risk perception, and i can quote the words of the well

-known warren buffett, yes, an investor, investors, a real guru of investment activity in the world the last few decades. that you have nothing to do in the stock market if you are not ready to lose 50% of your capital, it is normal, it is a stock market game, it works everywhere, it is even game theory there, and now we will not take zero in a casino, but if you want to win one to one, you bet on color, and either you lose or win the same amount, the same thing, if you want to win more, and 36 numbers, you bet on one number, then you will win 36 times more, but the probability of losing is also.

it always breaks down, well, acquaintances always immediately remembers that they have a financier, and somehow i get a message: i have 500,000 rubles. how can i spin them so quickly that i get a million in six months. i say, no way, well, how can't i, well, here's the trend, well, how can't i invest here, invest there, somehow tinker with it, i say, no way, i say, it's just mathematically calculated how much you want in six months and what kind of instruments you need, that is, it's not realistic. i always, you know, when it comes to me, he says: "mikhavich, i have 50,000, i want to increase it multiple, multiple." i say, you can't, but there is one way, that... i tell men this, they say, what to do? i say, buy expensive perfume, flowers and

take your beloved woman to an expensive restaurant, and spend this evening on 50,000 investments will bring endless income, usually so that then you will receive such dividends over a long period of time, they are simply endless compared to these miserable 50 thousand that you spent, yes, thank you, it was very nice to understand and dispel, actually all the myths, i am very glad i hope that we managed to do this about passive income, which works somewhere there without human participation, mutually, well, to all successful investments of passive income in the future, all episodes of the podcast easy money you can find on the website of the first channel. hello, this is the podcast of the chronicle of the end

of times, my name is evgeny dodolev, today i will tell you about show business, or rather about bandits in show business. vladimir matetsky likes to repeat the english saying, there is no other business like show business, well in in the original english it sounds like. some to others, often bandits come to the world of show business not for the sake of profit, but simply for the sake

of some kind of courage. eh, there is an excellent film with trovolta, to catch the shorty, i think it is called in our translation, where a bandit comes from miami to hollywood and is simply drawn into a producer's story. very often people really from... this criminal world - were engaged in what looked, perhaps, like racketeering and blackmail of people of art, well, first of all, musicians, of course, in our country, in fact, because they were simply interested, as they say, it was a thrill to communicate with those people whom the public was used to seeing on screens or on stage. i first learned about this side of show business very, very early, when... i don't think the term show business even existed in russian, i was still in my early student days, by the way, i have

a photo from almost the end of the seventies or maybe it was 1980-81, this is the beijing restaurant, this is christ kelmi, on the far right, his wife, the first and only lyusya, this is me with my friend natasha valtsy, who was later the wife of alexey chlenov, who... was the fiancé of ala golubkina, who later became the wife of alexey romanov, the leader of the voskreseniya group, and then the wife of another rock veteran, and almost became the wife of alexander borisovich gradsky, well, the song is not about them at all. this picture was taken by a producer, a very famous one, he later, or rather became a producer, at that time, he started out like that , well, already then at the very... beginning of the formation of our rock scene, when very modest money was earned, already then around...