but this is really a very big rarity, that is, if we take the additional cost of the vaccination program, then approximately one case per million is added there of some autoimmune complications to those cases that are normal in the population, normally in the population there are from two to 20 cases per million plus one, if you conduct a mass vaccination program, then what is there according to statistics, this is really a very small increase, this is due to the action of immunity, but if we look at the mortality rate from that...

hello everyone, this is the free program podcast, i am maxim tronkov, our guests are the future of russian, i hope, world ice dancing, sofia leontieva and daniil gorelkin, guys, hello, welcome to our studio, hello, hello, were you surprised when you were invited? or is this quite expected for you already from the spotlight? no, we were quite pleasantly surprised, very glad that we are here now, for us this is something new, as was the whole season, so we are very glad that we were invited and we are here.

for russian ice dancing, the fact that you have been together for a long time is already a sensation, tell us how you manage not to follow trends, not to change partners, how did you find each other? first of all, we respect each other very much, we always try to listen to hear some wishes. and from each other and from coaches, so we somehow so closely go together for 6 years already, i hope that we will go for a very, very long time, in general, the pair process is a very complex thing, bearing in mind that you should hear not only yourself coaches, but also your partner, your partner, this generally causes various difficulties, quarrels, some... misunderstandings,

but if you have some common goal that you are going towards, and you and your team are looking in the same direction, then in any case... you will only go together, who of you is more complex by character, in my pair i was always the most complex, all seven partners said that i was complex, and who is yours? i think we are both good, in our own way, i am super emotional, if i don’t like something, i always say right away, directly, here, danka, he is more like, you know, he endures, endures, endures, then explodes, well, we are both very nasty at work, but... nothing, here - we are united, i think, by a common goal, yes, that is, we are at work, these are two very aggressive people who want everything at once, try to do everything at once, are unhappy if something does not work out not

only in themselves, but also in another, and you can simply start, so to speak, to devour each other, but in any case, these are all working moments. we both understand this, it is important stop the quarrel in time, or turn it into a joke, or just take at least two minutes to rest from each other, go to different ends of the rink, somehow it seems to me that problems are solved, you said that you want everything at once, here you have such a bright first adult season, so what do you want at once, everything, of course you want everything, well, if we talk about this season, yes, we wanted... to enter adult ice dancing so brightly, we wanted to be remembered, we wanted to be liked, of course, and there was such a desire, and we understood that everything at once is impossible, but we tried very hard and even now, when we learn some new elements, we understand that

in order to learn them you need to spend a lot of time, but we get upset when it doesn’t work out the third time, and from sports in principle, from sports. in principle, what do you want the most, what is your maximum, what do you want for yourself? i generally think that any athlete, of course, has a goal of the highest world achievements, yes, we are talking not only about the olympics, but also the world championship, the european championship, that is, the very highest peaks that you can get, and of course, this is probably to leave a mark in this amazing sport. to be remembered and for people to remember for a long time, to watch , to observe, to admire, well, it has long been no secret that in ice dancing there is a concept of a queue, but now, as it seems to me, in russia there is such a favorable moment when you can squeeze through somewhere without a queue, did

you manage this season, how do you think, how do you evaluate your season, i think that in to some extent maybe, probably, yes, well after the dance rating at the championship. and we were third, for us it was of course a surprise, then we a little yes, we did not expect that this could happen, at our first russian championship, it seems to me, we distinguished ourselves very much by this, well that is, you are already ready, as your results show, to fight for the pedestal, well yes, we want to fight for the third, second, first place, that's because yes we are young. new, but we want to take what we can and what we know to do, and if people like it, the judges like it, based on the results of this season we can say that we improved with each start,

i think that we can and should fight, this is a small bronze, let's call it that, after the rhythm dance at the russian championship, how did it affect the entry into the free dance? exactly well, let's take the russian team, yes, which we have now, they are of course all older

than us, and very much so, that this is the same queue, that is, older, which means we can no longer beat them, no, no, not to this, but the fact that experience, this is a lot. in dances exactly experience decides, how much you skate, plus this is maturation, because it is very difficult to actually convey some kind of adult... namely dance or some kind of male presentation, if you have not grown up to this age, that is, in any case, your life experience also decides a lot, because it can be embodied on the ice, then it will not look fake, but the fact that you are actually living this dance, therefore a lot, a lot decides, age too, how much can you improve your personal?

the most basic elements in which they can there may be some problems with the levels, that is, somewhere you can under-rotate the rotation by a quarter, you are already at level three, and there you may even be at level two, with blocks and with tracks the same thing, that is, without performing one element, for example, a hook, you will no longer have level four, and the difference between level two, three, four is quite significant, i have had many coaches, almost 90% of the dance elite coaches are here in this studio, and there were guys, our champions, victoria snitsa,

nikita kotselapov, and alexandra stepanova, ivan bukin, they all said that the rules in dancing are very complicated now and the requirements change every season, do you agree with this statement, do you have time to adapt from season to season, do you have time to just learn these new elements? i will say that these new rules, they made dancing much more interesting, that is, if you look now even at the last season, well, which is now kind of the current one, but has already passed, then this year the variety of elements has become simply very large, this gives huge potential in creativity, both in your own and as a coach. that's why i think that even if it's difficult somewhere, in any case it's something new and

something interesting, because even for a viewer who watches, for example, a rhythm dance, he doesn't understand what a compulsory dance is, what it is, but he only sees that everyone skates the same thing, yes, that's the question here, and why does everyone skate the same thing, yes, this year there was no such thing at all, everyone skates something completely different, completely different, and that's cool. that's great, but as an ordinary viewer understand who is better? that is, even if i admit, honestly, we, figure skaters of other sports, do not always understand what is happening on the ice when dance competitions are going on, then how can an ordinary spectator figure it out, give me some advice on how they can start watching ice dancing, let them not figure it out, let them just watch the programs and enjoy the programs, because well, it seems to me, an ordinary spectator should not figure out the edges, the hooks, the counters, the brackets, just watch the dance, and this is already the task of the athletes and coaches,

to make a program so interesting and rich that it would be interesting for an ordinary viewer to watch even the track, you already have a wonderful duet, not only yours, but also your coaching pair, irina zhuk and alexander svinin, they were also our guests. in the studio they told us that alexander vasilyevich works more with you on technique, and irina zhuk works more with choreography, productions. and how much time do you spend in the dance hall, on the parquet, and in general do you know how to dance off the ice, oh, you'll tear everyone apart on the dance floor, dania? will definitely tear apart, dania will simply tear apart everyone, but i can say that i am flexible enough. and i like some kind of unbridled dances, more emotional, such, without

any special rules, like that, if i can say it briefly, i just don’t like the classics, i don’t like ballet, i can’t stand statics, i like to move emotionally in space, to all this add movements that come to me by themselves. but, for example, sonya, even, for example, not being able to do a little somewhere, yes, what i can do, she is amazing at standing statically, you would we saw her doing choreography in the summer, because i can't stand like that, everything cramps me, it's just, it hurts me, i'm, and sonya is standing in the middle, and the barre, i'm standing right behind her, and i just understand how bad i am, in this, by the way, we have a very cool balance, because we both learn from each other that we

lack something, and how did you even get into dancing, how did you understand that i... after preparatory, that is, i was 5 years old, i was already tall then, plus i started my figure skating path in in general, earlier than everyone else, i went there straight to kirov, and at that time dancing was more developed there than single skating, so always, i'll tell you a secret, always in the footsteps of oksana domnina, yes i decided to go, yes they said there give this... girl to dancing, accordingly, that's how i got into dancing, and that is, i am the person who skated all the compulsory dances in the second sports category, in the first sports category, then in juniors, and also in the building we skated various compulsory dances, that, yes, yes, yes, my favorite, that's how it all came to me got carried away into dancing, that is, you

can’t even jump a one and a half naxel, i can’t, and you, dan, for nine or 10 years, i skated in single skating and i started my path in yekaterinburg , it turns out, i trained, taught everything that could be learned, i really wanted, i really desired, i had plushenko, yagudin as examples, i just had my eyes burning with how i also wanted to jump quads, in the end, then a rather unpleasant thing happened to me, i had such overtraining, and they told me that... "i can’t just do it anymore specifically singles sports, because i can't do figure skating and jumping anymore, because it could make me a person with disabilities, so then they told me to switch to dancing, and there began a very cruel struggle in my head with the fact that dancing is a type of figure skating and

it is also a sport, i denied it and did not want to accept it and said that what is this, there is no..." in general, what is there to do, there is nothing to do there, and then i came to dancing, in yekaterinburg, no, no, no, i was already in moscow then, that is, you are already a singles skater, as a single skater, i moved to moscow for a year, there i skated for about a year in singles and eventually went into dancing, then i first moved to a group, and came to the group of denis eduardovich samokhin, i really liked it then, i realized how wrong i was that dancing is... easy, i became incredibly interested in whether i would succeed or not, so i started and am still burning, we continue our conversation with the dance duet sofia leontyeva, daniil gorelkin. what is the difficulty of ice dancing as a sport, what made you realize that it is difficult? in the fact that you have to

rely not only on yourself, but also on the person who is next to you... with you, i'm just the kind of person that somehow since childhood i've always only believed in myself and relied only on myself, but this is probably from the point of view of the fact that i skated singles, then i realized that i need to adapt and somewhere also understand the person, accept him, because we are going towards one common goal, and if i don't learn this and don't accept the fact that i'm not skating alone, then... then nothing will work out, but there is another point, as it seems to me, as a partner to a partner, and this is responsibility, because you are also responsible for the load that you carry for your partner, well , it’s hard to call it a load, this is the weight that you lift, which is in very difficult positions at this moment above the ice and if

something goes wrong, then it is your responsibility, in this you are insanely right, i will not say anything, yes, but ... but still, we soni believe that responsibility in a pair is 50 to 50, everyone is responsible for each other, there is no such thing that i have more responsibility or vice versa, sony has more responsibility, that is, we try, so to speak, to share these percentages equally, so that both can develop together, and what happens if someone doesn’t succeed in the competition, for example , the dances will be made by one of the partners, there is a certain number of mistakes.

it’s useless to somehow figure out who the problem is or what the problem is, but you need to accept the fact, understand that yes, it didn’t work out, we will work, continue to improve everything. now it is considered that ice dancing in our country is such a lame duck, yes, that is, we have great singles who compete with each other, jump a lot of quads, there are unique girls, there are couples who are traditionally strong, ice dancing is currently experiencing a slight decline, how do you feel about this?

it's interesting to be, as a person from the urals, i can't help but ask you how you decided, how your parents decided, how did it happen, this move to another city, to moscow, well, how did the family council make this decision, everyone went, i can say that i am incredibly grateful to my parents for the fact that they were burning with this idea together with me, namely the idea that i should develop and achieve that, achieve. all the goals in this sport, because i like what i do and i like this, and i want to develop only in this, and they

respected this madly, they wanted and still want and still support me so that everything would work out for me, so when we realized that we couldn’t learn triple jumps in yekaterinburg, and we decided to switch, well, try to come to... moscow is already found there is a coach who might be able to teach me triple jumps, because even then, at the age of 12, although i was short, i had very long arms, very long legs, and although i was thin, i weighed practically nothing, it was still very difficult for me to jump, i hoped that something would change when i moved to moscow, but the miracle did not happen, my arms, in short... did not become, and my legs too, when i finally told my parents that let's try dancing, they said, come on, we are ready, you and

i, if it were not for the support of my parents and that, what did they do for me, i wouldn't be sitting here with you now, and how was it for you? and i came to moscow when i was 13 years old, and that 's what happened - it happened like this, that my mother and i understood together that i needed to move on and decided to take a risk, so i moved alone, that is, i've been living alone since i was 13, and my mother stayed in kirov, she continued to work there, she did everything possible so that i felt comfortable here , calmly trained and went towards my cherished dream, towards my goal, i don't know, that's it i just took a risk, i really can't imagine how my mother let me go alone at such an early age, that is, i now... i understand this, but thanks to the fact that everything turned out exactly this way, at 19 years old i now feel like a pretty grown-up and smart person,

well, i was always proud that i left for moscow at 15, here i am still a 13-year-old girl, how did you live, how did your mother let you go, that is, go, and i remember that the first year we lived out of suitcases, she would come to me once every two weeks, then i would come to her... for weeks there weekend, i remember that the first 2 years were very difficult, very hard without my mother, because she is my closest person in this universe, then it became easier over time, i somehow became a little older, it became easier for me to cope with even some everyday problems, so little by little, little by little, little by little i got used to living alone, and where did you live? i lived in a sports school, yes, we are from the skating rink, and you? did you move with your mother? yes, i moved completely with my parents, well, that is also very difficult to take, to leave your hometown with your whole family, to change your way of life completely, to find a job,

that is, your parents in principle. they also accomplished a feat in terms of sacrifices for absolutely everyone, yes, yes, we practically left nothing in yekaterinburg, that is, everything that was there, either we gave it to someone, or left it to someone, or sold something, that is, we - in any case, one way, one way, yes, that is, we came purposefully so as not to return later, because we understood that if something was left behind us in this city, then we would always have the thought that, that... "well maybe we'll come back then, why not, well it doesn't work out and it doesn't work out, i've never had such a thought, my parents found themselves in moscow, yes, it's not easy either, it's not easy, but i'm glad that all these difficulties, yes, because everyone, each of us in our family experienced their own difficulties with this arrival, but it didn't separate us,

on the contrary, it..." united us even more, so we survived everything, now everything is fine, i had a little thought that maybe in moscow there will be a coach who can teach me to jump, because yekaterinburg is actually a very good city in terms of the tradition of figure skating, great coaches simply trained there in their time, there were ksenofontov and even, maybe you already know such a judge, not a coach, but vladimir zakharov, he is also from yekaterinburg. uh, that is, a lot, and i will not remember yulia lepnitskaya, maxim koftun and others there, who jumped beautifully, and, if i am not mistaken, even tatyana malinina, ilya malinin's mother, she, too, at least, i also trained in yekaterinburg, the winner of the grand prix final in women's singles skating and the first four continents winner,

the first person in general who won these competitions, so yekaterinburg - they can teach you to jump there, no, they can teach you to jump there, i'm not saying anything, but... for some reason then it seemed to me that if i move from my first coach in yekaterinburg to some more professional, for example, another coach, also in yekaterinburg, then i somehow considered it some kind of betrayal or some kind of disbelief in my current coach then, namely in yekaterinburg my very first, in any case, everyone still thinks that... this is long and sila, this is moscow, no way, oh, excuse me, look, i moved to petersburg, no, well, well, in dancing, really, yes, in dancing, absolutely right, of course, to moscow, then a plus for us, we are yekaterinburg residents, we are special, well then i was still small, i didn’t know anything special at all about the world of figure skating, what it really is , i only knew that moscow, in moscow,

yes, in moscow. strength, and then for this reason just stereotype and i moved to moscow, of course, now having grown up, having seen a lot, i understand that there are amazing coaches, specialists all over our country, in fact. for those who have just joined us, with us in the podcast free program, sofia leontyeva and daniil gorelkin, and how did you find each other already, that is, you came to moscow from two different ural cities at different times? somehow fate brought you together, how did it happen? when i came to try out for irina vladimirovna alexander vasilyevich, danya had been skating for a year already, and they only had another partner, it so happened that this partner got sick, she couldn’t do figure skating anymore, and i came to the audition with my former partner, so we, oh, it’s just a boy, andrey.

hello, just if he’s not skating now, no, he’s not skating, no, no, no, so, and we skated with him one day, after training, the coaches called my mother there, said, could you please stay in moscow for one more day, only only me, so already without a partner, so the next day i go out on the ice, and andrey from kirov is with you, yes, i go out on the ice and the coaches say: here is dania, sonya, skate together. and what was dania's first reaction? well, i was sick for 3 weeks then. it was my first day when i went out on the ice, and i still felt pretty bad, that is, i was sick there with a temperature, with everything else, i caught some kind of virus, and then i went out, and i look at sonya, i'm like, who is this, god, just don't touch me, please,

let it be like... when the coaches call us and say, let's skate together, i'm like, with her, with her, what are you saying, anyone else would have rushed in, it's just that you, smashing your opponents' faces, are such a partner, so then we were young and youthful, and stupid, and stupid, well, plus we looked completely different then. we were so funny, we were, we recently looked through our photos and we were just like that, i don't know what else to call it, not barbie and ken is not barbie yet, no, i 've been like that since childhood, excuse me, nothing like that, sorry, sorry, sorry, about yes i went too far

, i really shouldn't have been so bullying, now you're going to fight, no, no, no, this, this is our classic, in general then i was like, well, nothing special , nothing special, oh well. but no, i appreciated that a tall, beautiful girl, stately, plus a blonde, i'm such a blonde, and you don't like blondes, all the blonde fans unsubscribe from me, now no, well, it's a matter of taste, for example, i never liked it, well, how could i not like it, well, i liked a different type a little, there dark-haired yes, but my wife is a blonde, it 's like the heart, you can't pretend, no, but let's say that in any case, the heart, yes, there 's nothing you can do about it, but i was just like that then, i was still little then, and i was like that, blonde, stupid, of course , i thought in stereotypes, i thought then, after all, i

matured quite a lot, plus when we started communicating with sonya, i realized that i was terribly mistaken, that's why she's not stupid, and the kirov accent didn't bother you, with me it's just that, when i arrived in petersburg, the first... didn't want to ride anymore, she said, he speaks like a fool, i said it straight out, it just seemed that way to me, because i didn’t hear that yes, no, there was no such thing, but even when we just became a couple, i completely accepted who she is in general, i didn’t try to change anything precisely from the point of view of what kind of person sonya is, that is , i even have this principle that i won’t change people, because if i like a person, then... i like him the way he is, because well, i myself have also encountered many different things when people tried something in me to change, and i treated these people completely differently, yes, as i thought then, and despite the fact that we were no

children then, and some quarrels too, in any case she is an amazing person, and i know her as she really is, and everything suits me perfectly, mi-mi-mi. sonya, well, and you saw dania, a handsome man, a muscovite, i don’t know yet that he is from yekaterinburg, i saw dania, i thought, well, okay, if i need to ride with him, then of course i will, the coaches there told us, please go, a circle of runs, and we stood in a pair there and he was like, yeah, who is shaking hands with whom, that's who, that's where it became clear who the leader in the pair was, no, no, she just beat you here. yeah, the funniest thing on the ice, when we're skating, it's always like this, they said, please ride, there's a circle of runs in a pair, we stood in a pair, we went and dani was like, crossing jackson, he

said it in a show-off kind of way, i was like, oh my god, that was so rude, who am i going to skate with now, but literally 10 minutes pass and that's it, we're already there we rode, laughed, discussed, and what - where from? chatted, oh, come on, you're from kirov, talk about each other, yeah, yeah, well, that is, we started communicating quite calmly, right away like, well, we accepted the fact that we were now skating together, well, did anyone forget their passport at the airport, for example, or a dress for a tournament, no, we are very responsible in this regard, there was no such thing, that is, you are the most boring couple in russia, no, we are the most fun couple, i think. prove it to the audience, you can't fool the audience, and why should i do i have to prove something to someone? because you do sports, my dear, this is the most incorrect answer of an athlete, why should i prove something to someone, because an athlete even

has to prove himself every training session, no, of course, like the old you know who you had a very original free program this year snow white hunter, everyone remembered it right from the test skates and it was discussed a lot, and what to expect this season again something like that? something new, we will not say anything yet, that's exactly it, it will be though let's do it this way, so as not to say, but open up a little, maybe some kind of hang- up, it will again be some kind of characteristic music, that is, it will be... you will play some roles, or, for example, it will be like popadaka from sizeron, yes, there is such a counter-tempo, this is the music that suits us very well, this is the music that suits us very well, and which we really want to show on the ice, he answered so bluntly, and then let it be that dance, and that music, which will lead you to the long-awaited medals and podium, maybe. russian championship, as you said, even first place, thank you for

coming, it was really interesting, it is always interesting to talk about dancing, because it is quite difficult to understand it, thank you very much, thank you very much, only success, thank you, here... i was a little lucky, i worked in latin america as a correspondent, there i communicated quite closely with the local masons, here in my hands i have the constitution, the charter, this liturgy, it looks almost like a mandate of the congress, yes, like a mandate masonic, masonic congress, so then we will talk not only about history, but about some specifics, unlike you, i have no personal experience of such communication with... masons , but as a historian and as a teacher

i had to deal with a huge number of myths about the omnipotence of the masons, about all the authorities, about the fact that they organize wars and revolutions, with this conspiracy theory, of course, we also need to understand, of course, hello, this is the historical podcast russia-west on the swings of history, with you pyotr romanov and sergei solovyov, today we will to deal with the masons, we should probably start first of all with the fact that, of course, freemasonry has left... a huge mark in world history, because, well, judge for yourself, the founding fathers of the united states, almost all of them were freemasons. churchill was a freemason, italy, for example, garibaldi was a freemason. in latin america, there, in general, all of the great people, almost all of them were freemasons, all of the fighters for the independence of latin america, starting with balivar, they were all freemasons, so, of course, their role is undoubtedly very great, but... we will of course talk first of all about russia, about what they did in russia, how

they were treated, including talk about modern freemasonry. there is a very interesting situation with the freemasons, this society is somewhat secret, how semi-secret, a lot has been written on the topic of freemasonry, it is quite important that the general public simply does not know much about this writing, masonic orders were created as a kind of alternative to the catholic religion, monastic orders, they set themselves the goal of ... creativity, moral self-improvement based on faith, by the way, mandatory faith in the supreme being, traced their prehistory directly from the creator, who was called the first mason, and from adam, it was important for them to maintain fraternal unity and friendship in their midst, however, this did not prevent the masons from sending each other to prison or to heliatines in different political situations, masonry is rather, during most of its history, these are rather such clubs, mainly for representatives of the nobility, although there were representatives there.

it was not peter himself who brought it, but a huge number of foreigners whom he invited to russia, and the first lodges in russia, they were generally purely foreign, then gradually russians began to come there and lodges appeared, they were purely foreign and mixed and already russian, they were in different languages, because they came from different places, freemasonry came from prussia, from sweden, from england, that's why. the differences between these lodges.