they still remember him very much, he wrote to the state cinema: allow him to stay, to continue working, because he once told me, you know, i said everything in russia, even if i only made five films, i want to talk to the world and unfortunately they told him that nostalgia, come back, and he with his character... felt like a serf, that same composer grizovsky from nostalgia and he said no, i will stay where i am invited. and if we take tanin's films, which ones do you rewatch most often, if you rewatch them now or they you remember them so well that in general you can quote them from any place. you know, sometimes, sometimes, just any film that suddenly comes into my field of vision. so i

watch and can't tear myself away, on tunin's anniversary we always do a small retrospective of films in our museum, places for the soul, that's what tanin called them, places that he created, a garden of forgotten fruits, for example, you have to come to see it all, a temple of thoughts, then a museum of one painting, only these are all places for the soul that created italian knimatu. unfortunately, the previous one, which i know, in which i lived, the very young generation remembers little, they do not know, when schools come to me, i ask, tell, and i ask philine, who, someone, a fraction there from the end, an artist, they are here, they, here they are, they are romanolians, they live created amazing. felline museum, in

the malotesta castle, as it should be, and what about films with orientinu, for example, or also secondary, secondary, but he himself admits it, in fact, in his films, he imitates very iphilinia, he imitates that, well, let it exist, but it is not at the same level, because the first discoverer is valued, today we talked about soviet-italian bridges with... with in culture, in cinema, in history, we had a living bridge as a guest, which gives us this feeling of the connection of cinema of generations, the feeling that we are present among geniuses, we talked about the centenary of marcelloiani, about the ninetieth anniversary, perhaps a little more, of sophia lorren, we talked about the film sunflowers, in which... both played, which was filmed

including in moscow, we talked about tanin guera, we talked about all this with laura higuera, to whom we are very grateful for the fact that you talked to us about this, gratitude to you, i remember those times with joy, thank you very much, thank you, it was a podcast of witnesses from einstein and its hosts are film historians, natalia ryabshchikova and stanislav didinsky. telekinesis is an effect on objects with the power of thought. so, we have in our hands the most ordinary light bulb, we will mentally influence it. by the way, you will also help us, come to your screens with your index finger touch here light bulb. now think only about it. try to influence. it, as

we do, we succeeded, complicate our experiment, now we will try to do the same with the most ordinary metal fork, we will need your help, concentrate on this fork, think only about it, influence it, it seems, we succeed. you are watching the podcast tricks, we are illusionists, the safronov brothers, and today we will talk about mental magic and the main mentalist of the 20th century, wolf messing. wolf messing, mystifier, hypnotist, psychic and of course, mentalist. september 10 marked the 125th anniversary of his birth. messing is considered one of the most.

who is wolf messing? it seems to me that messing became the founder, the pioneer of mental magic. before him, illusionists had never worked in this genre. remember, kio worked in the circus, akopyan on the stage, it was all presented, but in some kind of entertaining vein. messing called his concerts psychological experiments, experiments, and called himself a professor. so, this is how it all began and where this professor discovered his.

his real name, who was born a year before the beginning of the 20th century in a poor family, he was the sixth child, since his father was a rabbi, he wanted messing to also become a successor to his business, but messing did not like this occupation at all, the little boy was carried away by his affairs, the street and so on,

then the father hires a wandering actor, who, under the guise of god, appears before the little boy and tells him that he ... must definitely become a rabbi. wolf enters training, studies. and after 2 years at a marketplace fair, he meets this wandering actor. then messing understands that his father deceived him and he runs away from home. but it’s strange, why didn’t messing, when this actor appeared to him in the image of god, why didn’t messing see this, why didn’t he read the thoughts of this actor. but he doesn’t constantly sit all day and read thoughts, somewhere he opens up,

if there hadn’t been a young student there, a young doctor who noticed that the body temperature was similar to normal temperature of a living person, and he leaned his face towards messing's face, trying to feel his breath, but he did not feel his breath, then he took a small mirror and put it to the little boy's face, immediately pulled his hand off the mirror, was evaporated, so messing remained alive, he learned about it. german psychiatrist and neurologist norman abel, who took messing to himself, took this little boy, began to conduct experiments with him and even got him a job at the berlin museum, where he demonstrated his abilities and the most turning point in wolf's life is that at the age of eleven he

gets into the circus, oh, he sees jugglers, gymnasts, acrobats, he sees lights, an enthusiastic audience, and of course he sees illusionists, the first. magicians who work in such traveling circuses, he is simply in love with this genre, he begins to train hard, he begins to perform in traveling circuses and even gets with one group to the famous bush circus, where he already demonstrates such a number, several artists come out on stage, who are they portray robbers, they kind of rob the audience in the hall, take some personal things from them, hide them on the territory, that is , the arenas. or on the territory of the auditorium, then volf appears, unmistakably finds these objects, that's what's interesting, later in an interview with oreshkin, the journalist, messing described his performance in this way, this is not reading thoughts, or if i may say so, reading

muscles, when a person thinks intensely about something, the brain cells transmit impulses to all the muscles of the body, their movement, imperceptible to the naked eye, i easily... accept. the indicator can be the inductor's breathing rate, his pulse, the timbre of his voice, the nature of his gait, and so on. here's what's interesting, when i studied at the shchepkin theatre school, we were given such an assignment, that is, it was an exercise in attention, in concentration, an exercise in feeling the partner, that is, we had to feel each other, this is very important in the future acting profession, look, now i'll show you the exercise that we did together with my students, this is interesting, while ilya is getting ready, i should comment, so that everyone can start putting the puzzle together a little bit, that already in his youth , mesting began to master the secrets of this craft, already began to show numbers in circuses, precisely based on such

mental abilities, so what am i showing you there, rather ready, yeah, who will you conduct your experiment on, come on, so look, stretch your hands forward, i give you this key, turn away, and any of you hides it in your fist, all four fists should be visible to me, are you ready? now look, i'm going to touch each of the fists, and you have to prompt me, but not physically, you don't have to yank your hand, you don't have to do that, you have to prompt me mentally , and not think about the key, but you have to prompt, let's go, i think. yes, really, no, okay, here i 'm telling you, swallowed my saliva, cool, so look,

here's another experiment especially for you, we didn't agree with you, so, this exercise takes place in a theater school, there's no mysticism here, especially for you, here's another experiment, now quickly name the color of the card, black or red, quickly, red, now... name a number from one to five, that is, from one to ten, quickly a number, seven, so, in this envelope is a prediction, attention, yes, yeah, red seven, there is nothing else here, so, how is it done, when i talk about color, i put my opponent, in an extreme word, i ask him to quickly name the word, quickly, i do not give him time to think, i emphasize on... in extreme conditions,

a person grabs the last word, then according to statistics from one to ten spectators they call seven, seven in second place, three or five, you called seven, i didn't give you the opportunity to call five, because i supposedly made a mistake, saying name a number from one to five, oh, that is from one to ten, it was not a slip of the tongue, it was done on purpose, i would these are psychological tricks that are used by illusionists all over the world. ilya worked ahead of the curve when he told how he did this trick, because i thought, okay, he limited five in this way, i could call three, his trick still hung, but what is called a hair's breadth 50/50 suddenly ilya , reading my thoughts ahead of time , unfolds the map. he says, look, here's a three, that's how, friends, wolf messing's tricks were born, it's a great talent, so

to be able to quickly convince a person, to say the color is right there or there, i don't know how you figured out the key for me like that, cool, this surprised me, cool, dense fakes from the baltics about our public transport, you can see what trams are running, there's nothing like that in russia, why are ukrainians in europe surprised by the bus and tram schedules, they are focused on the domestic ukrainian consumer, because this is his life, probably the third video he will be surprised by the tap water, all life is a game, f16 fell, giran can not move like that, that is, there are many inconsistencies here, let's analyze the fake for the creation of which the american special services had to kidnap a russian it specialist, this game is ideal for fakes, it is officially used by the armed forces of ukraine to train f-16 pilots, antifake, season premiere, tomorrow on the first, you do not tell me only about men, that they fall in love. valentina titova is one of the most beautiful women

of the soviet screen, she always gave the impression of a socialite, a woman who is surrounded by the care and love of her famous men, but it turns out that the impression is deceptive. men have always been afraid of me, and my husbands had no influence on me. get away from someone else's husband's wife. how did basov react to your pregnancy? disappeared. and who accompanied you to the maternity hospital, i do not know, his assistants. everyone pitied me in the maternity hospital, how valentina titova left vladimir basov and what did the director write in the statement to the court, filed for alimony, why didn't you take the children with you, and where did they go? yes, you want to ask me now, where did i put the money? confession of valentina titova: a cuckoo mother or a victim of love, can a beautiful woman or actress be happy at all? no one can stand it when a person hunts only for you, a knife in his hand. exclusive with dmitry borisov, premiere on saturday on

the first. this is a podcast focus and we are illusionists , the sofron brothers. unraveling the secrets of the most the main mystifier of the 20th century messing, here it is very important to say that he showed truly incredible tricks, if now what ilya showed us makes an impression, then back then it was just a furor, the phenomenon is that he knew how to wrap up these tricks very correctly, to present them, and i know that among his guests who came to his show in europe were einstein and freud. and even hitler came. and i don’t know. there is such a legend that hitler was also at his concert. legend. yes, we naturally understand that the greater part of all these stories, they are told to us, well, what is called messing himself. we do not know the confirmation of these stories, but nevertheless, this is a well-known legendary story that messing

predicted hitler's death, that he would die in one of the main jewish. phenomenal history, when hitler grabs him and puts him in prison. here, as experts and historians of wolf messing say, biographers, in particular, and so on, say that here messing came running to a unique hypnosis, which even today not everyone can repeat. that is, if we know that hypnosis works as yes, the hypnotist

meets the subject eye to eye and hypnotizes him. messing had to use his hypnosis through obstacles, through a wall or a cell door. messing was in a solitary confinement cell , there were guards outside and he hypnotized these guys through the door, that is, through a closed obstacle, convincing them that diamonds were scattered on the floor of the cell. they, having succumbed to this hypnosis, open camera, all the guards burst in, yes, they fall. and how happy messing was, tiptoeing out of the camera, locking the door behind him, there is a legend about how messing ran to where german tanks would never reach, he ran to moscow, thinking that here in moscow

he was also popular, but since he was incredibly, of course, it turns out that hypnosis worked. well, cool, well, yes, i and well, well, it really is amazing, i listen, i admire, i think that all our tv viewers are glued to the screen now like, okay, no way, sergey, where, yes, friends, all this can be read in the biography of messing, we must also immediately run ahead, say that more than 20 books were written there by messing himself, and how many of his friends, there are witnesses, historians and other people who tried to touch this truly phenomenal figure, also wrote with... wolf ended up in moscow, i think that he is as popular here as in europe, he starts selling tickets, but no one goes, yes, by the way, many skeptics said, how did he become so popular, he went to russia he came, he didn’t know the language, he had no connections, no money, that is, the man simply

started his life from scratch, and he doesn’t know what to do, but one official helps him, obrosimov was one, he was some kind of official from the ministry of culture, messing shows him some incredible tricks of his, comrade offers him to work in the agidbrigades, so his creative career in russia begins, messing works in the agidbrigades, the war begins, messing continues to work in these brigades, in 1944 he goes to novosibirsk, and there he is visited by his future wife, aida rapap, comes to the concert. and here is an interesting story, she came to his concert with such a businesslike look, she said after the concert, what is this with your assistant, the assistant does not perform well. the role of an assistant, well, these are women, but messing liked her so much that he answered her the following, he said: well , come to the rehearsal tomorrow and show her how

it should be, since then she came to every rehearsal, and later became his assistant, and a faithful wife, a true friend, and this greatly brightened up helped wolf messing, because he was essentially a lonely man, he was alone... by nature, and this person, a reliable rear, she was with him at home, at work, until her death, until her death, here it is necessary, friends, to say that our really coolest assistants are our wonderful wives, katenka, i love you, and for all illusionists, assistants are their wives, either in the present, or from assistants they become wives, it happens, it's true. so, then, we continue, messing's personal life, how it turns out, everything is wonderful, the only thing is, i, i know what's gnawing at him, his crazy

prediction again, it's hard to live with a person, seeing how he will leave, and messing predicted, foresaw how when his beloved, the only one, his wonderful report, his aidochka, would leave, he knew the date, he knew the circumstances, he saw how hard all this would happen, so that you know, it could have been avoided, well, as he said, i can predict, but i cannot influence, yes, but i'm not god, i cannot influence, unfortunately, therefore we understand his own tragic fate, his tragic this that's it, his gift is also, by and large , a test, well, imagine, i just caught myself thinking for a second, imagine, even we've seen so many films that a person... messing was a different person, he used his gift to help

people, his concerts were made to help people, in these agiftbrigades he charged soldiers, he predicted victory, he said on may 9, 1945 we will win and that's it... yes, iosif prisarionovich became interested in this phenomenal figure of messing, but what we know for sure that messing was really a patriot and in 1944 in novosibirsk, at his expense, at his personal expense , two fighter planes were made, one of them was presented to the pilot ace, hero of the soviet union, konstantin kovalev, and there is real confirmation of this. news video chronicle of this event, where this plane is positioned and presented, and the pilot hero kovalev, on the flute of the plane it is written that this is a gift from a soviet

patriot, to messing's comrades, comrade konstantin kovalev, the second plane served in flight regiment in warsaw. cool! well, may 9 happened, the war ended and messing becomes an artist of the state concert, gets such a position, tours. success, he later receives the title of honored artist, in general, now he is a real soviet artist, then it was called an original genre, but in fact he is a mentalist, and what does his program include, of course, a mentalist is actually a modern term, which includes hypnosis, possession of me. techniques, this is control of objects, management hypnosis, right, there are some psychological tricks, someone uses

real hypnosis, it's a big, big, big area that uses any tricks that fit the so-called mental magic, which translates, well, as mental, mind, that is, control of the mind, objects, man, will, even the elements of nature, yeah, now i'll show you such an experiment, very simple, but it is a whole subdivision in the genre, which is called imposed choice. so, i have three objects: a photograph of messing, a toy, a bus, and a cup, stretch your hand forward, here's a pointer, point to any of these objects. and now my prediction, great, you turned this ruler yourself on the back side, which says, you will choose the cup, that's cool. we didn't

agree, and now ask me, what would have happened if you had pointed, for example, to the bus? okay, ilya, and what would have happened if i had pointed to the bus, then i would have done this, i would have simply turned the bus and shown the prediction that i had pasted on the bus, it says here, you will choose the bus, on there are no such inscriptions on other objects, if you had chosen a photograph, i would have said that in this envelope i also have a prediction, in it... there is also a photograph of messing, amazing, that is , no matter what you choose, i will always prove to you that i made a prediction about this particular object, i will tell you that an illusionist can do such an experiment with hundreds of objects, each time he will show you a prediction in which this particular object will be indicated, we will use, we do not know how to hypnotize,

so we'll use this one. i understand correctly that this is still mental magic - it's a trick, inspired by such psychological experiments and experiments that he did, yes, exactly, all illusionists, looking at wolf messing, resorted to some kind of tricky tricks, yes, some kind of tricky devices, looking at wolf messing, this is a podcast of a trick, we'll figure out... his mental experiments, his psychological experiments and in general his so-called concert, what was it like? here at first messing came out, well, mesnik appeared before the audience, first he made the so-called introductory speech, he introduced the viewer to the genre, you see here such a fine line, whether it is a genre, or

an experience, a scene, he made an introductory speech, talked about experiments, about his stories from life, then he invited the viewer to independently come up with some tasks for him, that is, the viewer wrote these tasks in a note, the note was passed along the rows of the stage, there messing's assistant read it out task, and messing tried to complete this task, look how interesting it turns out, that is, messing did not arrive with a suitcase of ready-made props and numbers, yes. because the peak of messing's career was the post-war years up until about the mid -sixties, gradually, at first it was just a briefcase, then a suitcase, and then whole cases with real circus equipment were brought, but of course he began exclusively with psychological experiments with

those very tasks. the tasks could be absolutely different, someone, for example, wrote in the note is as follows: i will hide a needle to any spectator in the hall, and you, comrade mesting, will try to find it. mesing stood up, took the hand of the person who hid it, using the same technique that i showed you at the very beginning, he led tried to feel changes in the person's behavior, this is talent, here he writes in his book in his memoirs, i have to perform the next... session of many psychological experiments. i have to go out into the hall, where almost a thousand people are sitting, everyone is looking at me. i need to capture these people, excite surprise them by showing them my art, which more than half of the audience considers wonderful. surprise them without disappointing them, convince them that there is nothing wonderful about it, that everything is done by the power

of the human mind and will. mesin was a first-class mentalist, he knew how to work with the public, he knew psychology, human behavior, and this knowledge, of course, was acquired by him, due to this colossal experience, due to many years of practice and the fact that he constantly improved it, experimented, never did not stand still, all these methods have completely scientific explanations, well, it must be said that even today the genre of mental magic is very popular, mental magic, it is called today, despite the fact that the name contains magic, and there is nothing magical in it, by the way, this is a photograph directly from the performances of wolf messing, by the way, these are unique pictures, because messing almost never allowed his performance to be photographed, almost no records have survived in video archives, i don't know, maybe because he was afraid that he could be exposed, that the camera could look in and see something that

shouldn't be visible to the viewer, we don't know why, but in any case we were lucky, there is one unique video recording that captured, in my opinion, one of his last final concerts, one of his last performances. lines, let 's see, maybe we will be able to see something with our professional eye, how did wolf messing work, were they tricks or really a superpower, here notice how he is blindfolded, this is just my guess, you see, it creates a giant gap through which mesting can see everything that is happening, and notice, mesting's hand reaches into his pocket, takes out his wallet, now his wallet, he will... hold it at the level of his stomach, that is , his chest, op, you see, mesting already sees the color of the object that he took out and so on, he has, wait, no, no, he has, in short, there were two, two blindfolds, this is all just an assumption, but this is a natural movement,

sergey, you take some object, naturally, you will hold it like this, i show him an object, i can't see it, he holds it, but where can he, he has a blindfold, but how else can he hold his head, well, i say that he takes the object, holds it in front of him. he doesn't lower it here, he sees it at the level of his own, and what do you say about the fact that there are two blindfolds - the upper one is apparently just sticking out, here's the question, let's figure it out, you and i know that illusionists, when they blindfold themselves, put special bags on their heads, we we know that there are all sorts of tricks, special holes, they have already started looking at the place, to come up with some teachings to say, no matter how you close your eyes, you will still, like an illusionist, look for the secret of this trick. for you it will still be a trick, the mesing experiment is inexplicable, firstly, we do not know what is happening now, we see short fragments, yes, we see short fragments and it is not clear why he took this out, is it a wallet or a notebook, what is it, it is not even clear why he

took it out of his pocket and what will happen further, so it's hard to judge, to put it simply, mesting is still a mystery to us, we don't know how to do it, but we know some secrets of our craft, let's show our... trick to the audience now, and then tell how it's done, here i have an ordinary piece of paper, you see, there 's a magic circle drawn here, write any word in the center of this circle, write it, show it to the audience and fold this piece of paper in half, yeah, i'm folding it, i won't see it if i take it, right, no, you won't see it, look, that's it honestly, huh? now i'm tearing it, yeah,

right now, let it burn, i'm not peeking, i don't know what's written there. think about your word, think about your word, and i 'll try to read it now, think, think, think, think about your word, there was the word wolf, yeah, cool, yeah, uh-huh, wolf, yeah, i'm original, how did you guess, okay, actually, when i was tearing the piece of paper. i took the remaining piece for myself, i knew, i knew that it was in the center, i leave the center in my hand when i was tearing it, yeah, it sets it on fire, distracting attention, when i turned away, i had already read it there, well, friends, now after watching today's program our viewers

will turn into new messings, we wish you yes, i don't know how to do this messing, this is just me showing how i could do it, but not like messing, of course, in addition, another experiment from the repertoire of wolf messing, it is called telekinesis, the effect on objects, as i understand it, we will now show, not as, of course, volf messing himself did, we will show it as they do, well, let's say, novice illusionists in this genre, well, this is one of options, how it can be done, you see, i have a regular metal spoon, look carefully, now i will bend it with the power of thought. check, the spoon is real metal, that's right, a real metal spoon, everyone now has only one question, how andrey

did it, you will tell, of course, go ahead, so , i will show the secret of this cool trick, look, in fact i have two pieces, i broke one off in advance, the second spoon i bent like this. we put these two pieces together like this, you see, slowly lower them and the viewer we give away the bent spoon, and this one... in the hand, like this, super, by the way, i must say that these are the tricks that messing's imitators used, if messing used scientific experiments, then the imitators, as a rule, resorted to such tricks, to such things, to such tricks, but i also wanted to return again to his abilities, i personally knew mikhail viktorovich vinogradov, with whom we studied psychics for many years, and he told me about his meeting with messing, when... vinogradov was still student, they came to his friend to do

their homework, their parents were also close, they were also friends with each other, but so you understand, they were all already of high military rank, generals there and so on, so the parents of vinogradov's friend say: you'd better go to misha's, do some homework there, there shouldn't be anyone in the apartment, we're waiting for... someone, so when the young guys gathered to leave the apartment, on the landing they meet messing, vinogradov sees this fantastic person, about whom he had written a lot i heard, read a lot, but never saw him in person, their eyes met, messing looked at him intently, as vinogradov described his emotions, that he directly felt something, as if an electric current had pierced his body, messing entered the apartment, slammed the door and... when the young students returned back, they

did not meet messing, but they saw the excited faces of the parents, that is, the generals, then vinogradov understood that the generals were finding out something from messing, received some important information, very exciting information, and vinogradov then realized that all these stories about messing and about energy, that all this is not out of thin air, then vinogradov began to a... study this phenomenon, vinogradov once told me about one legendary trick, but which, well , i definitely think is a focus, a legendary trick, when messing came out on stage, he put two chairs with their backs to each other, invited a spectator from the audience, the spectator lay down on these chairs, his head rested on one back of the chair, his feet on the other back of the chair, like a board, yeah, slab. monolith, i don't know,

a man was lying on the rail, messing invited another spectator , sat him on his stomach, he didn't bend, was it a trick or some kind of suggestive hypnosis, hypnosis, i can do it as a trick, but i believe that he hypnotized the man, he somehow , in short, friends, messing leaves a huge number of questions, even for us, the most inveterate skeptics, for illusionists who know all the secrets of our craft, messing. can't figure it out, i think that today we were all incredibly interested in plunging into the world of magic and sorcery of messing, well, at the end , something else unusual. messing chose a person from the audience, put him into a hypnotic state, after which he could levitate in the air, touching only two vertically installed shists. right now, at the end of our magic podcast, you will witness a psychological one. we will

mentally influence andrey, we will try to lift his body into the air. we are starting. you watched the podcast focus and we are illusionists , the safronov brothers, good night to everyone and believe in miracles, then they will definitely be with you happen.

hello, this is the podcast of a witness from einstein and its hosts, film historians natalia ryabchikova and stanislav didinsky. in this podcast, we talk about why it is now necessary to watch forgotten, little-known, popular, cult soviet films, how to discover new meanings in them, and get even more pleasure. in order to do this, we look into the secrets. film archive, re-watch old films, and sometimes talk to current filmmakers. today we will talk about the 15th anniversary of the all-russian state institute of cinematography. and in order to do this, we invited three graduates to geek, this is alexander kot, this is nikolay levedev and svevan fverdovsky, hello, hello, we as historians, of course, like to get to the very beginning, we will say, here are 105 years, 1919, the most inappropriate time to open the world's first

film school, absolutely inappropriate, at first they tried to shoot films right away, something worked out here, then the film ran out. the first graduation took place in the twenty-seventh year, that is, 8 years have passed, and if we talk about such cult directors, actors, cameramen, well, those who are known to the average viewer, yes, we, probably in 90 cases out of 100, will come across a person who either studied at vgik, or taught there, or passed by, this often happened, then i would also consider myself an old geek, well , yes, this also happened, so our first question ... of course, it seems that in geek, of course, has always been, everyone knows it, but how did you first hear about this educational institution institution, how did you choose it, how did you get the courage to go there, or maybe you didn't need to get any courage, i don't know, after all, when you entered, there was already a choice, there were already higher courses for screenwriters,

directors, there were already petersburg institutions, well, in general, there were places where you could study 919 there was already a choice, here's your personal. path to vgik, i was just the one who was passing by, and my knees were shaking, to be honest, they were just buckling, i remember well, a hot summer and absolutely no one, it's hard to believe, an empty wilhelm pieck street, not a single person leaving or entering vgik, and i'm happy that there's not a single person there, because if someone had left, god forbid, i would have fallen into a frill, i sat down on a bench, back then there used to be a bench at the entrance, and i had an eight-millimeter movie camera with me. an amateur one, i took it out and began to examine it very carefully, to do something with it, as if pretending that i was busy with something serious, serious concern, but at the same time i felt only one: it's in kiik, i'm here, well i was 15 then, probably, it was before admission, that is, you wanted to go to

the directing department, i wanted to go to the directing department of course, but unlike sasha, unlike ivan, i failed miserably and... the crash was not so loud, because at first we took written exams, and i passed them, but when i had to sit down and talk to marlen artemovich khutseyev, look into his eyes, so huge behind the thick lenses of his glasses, my tongue stuck to the roof of my mouth, and i flew by, many years later i was telling this story to marlyan martynych, suddenly he somehow turned pale, and he was the most charming person, a wonderful, completely geeky teacher. and he says: forgive me, please, i say, marlen martinovich, dear, this was one of the most important lessons in my life, maybe if i had entered then, i would not have worked in cinema, i would not have become a director, and thanks to you, i am here, such a paradox, yes, alexander, and how about you, how many times have i somehow not,

the second time, the first time i prepared hard, i read a lot of literature, i entered marlinuch because i loved his films, in general, and that's not the point, it's just that there was some kind of recruitment that year, i watched very few films, now i 'll explain, because then it was impossible to watch a film, there was a film museum for the elite, at that moment i got a job there to watch films, i carried films from white pillars, but in reality, a person who was going to enter didn't care to watch a film, especially historical ones, that is, the soviet video rental began, and that video rental was jackie chan, bruce lee, this the whole story, so going to the cinema was cultural. events and it is clear that i watched russian cinema, well, soviet and did not see a single foreign film in principle, well , except for these, that is, who is a wend, who is such a person i did not know at all, i entered because i was engaged in photography, and they did not teach anywhere and still, maybe now it turned out, this profession of photographer appeared, but

there was not a single university in the country on the territory of the huge soviet union, where there would be such a profession of photographer, with a diploma, so that it was... than i already understand that only the last name helped me, well, that is, everyone stumbles over the last name, and the last name arouses interest, so

no matter how they leaf through these creative folders, but he took and i thought for the first six months that i had been thinking for a couple of years that i was taking someone else's place, well, that is, i think, my god, how i am deceiving everyone, what kind of director am i, well, because there was no such cultural background around me at all, a courier in a transporting film, naum kleiman does not even know. existence, i delivered shells, roughly speaking, with yaufs, yes, these big ones, yes, then medvedev was in the cinema, solovey, well, there, he worked there, we were allowed to watch on the balcony and the first strange film that i wanted to, after which i applied and became a director, oddly enough, was the film by deli kotes, a fairy tale about everything, you laugh, you cry, i watched this film 10 times, i wanted to make such a film.

and the first time i was preparing and just, well, there was a feeling that i saw a monument, it was really just impossible to be next to marin vantynovch, because this a sticky feeling of admiration, delight of cowardice arose. ivan, well, you are the only one here who got in the first time, it turns out, i am lucky, because at some point in school i realized that i wanted to be a director, it so happened that my father, he is a documentary film director, but i really liked the way he lives in general, that here he is... how you always go somewhere with your friends to film something, and all the parents come home tired after work, so on saturday they lie down, sunday too, somehow i

i thought, well, in my opinion, this is somehow a very cool activity, and i set a very clear goal for myself, when i see a goal, i don’t see an obstacle, and i spent the entire tenth -eleventh grade watching movies, studying everything i needed, but as a result, i understand that the masters even laughed at me a little, because i was just throwing some knowledge at them, that i saw this, i saw this, i watched everything. “take me.” and it turned out that i was accepted the first time. but you had a workshop unusual, your teacher alexey efimovich was recruiting then, something in between, well, it was experimental, between documentary and feature, that's also my own thing, i wasn't going to connect my life with feature films at all, i just liked the way of life of documentary filmmakers, how they are in general, how they live and what they do, and it seemed to me that alexey fimovich is such a very interesting mix in that his initial career is connected with exactly this classic documentary film, and it was all incredibly interesting to me, in

i didn't even consider gaming for myself directly, it just turns out that all three of our guests represent different directions - the educational process in geekdom. alexander is gaming, feature film, nikolai is the film studies department, yes, maybe not everyone knows the process i graduated from film studies i teach as yes, of course. but you have a completely separate path that is not similar to anything else, actually our question is how much your experience, each of you, helped you in the future career and cinematic experience, this knowledge, baggage, viewing experience that you received at the film museum, at vgik, how did all this help you later?