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the worthy drinks to the bottom the premiere of the documentary on saturday on the first and we continue, today our guests are evgeniya gin and petr pavel surkov and we are discussing whether a child needs a phone? very often from children of any age, especially before the first grade in the first grade, as soon as school appears, you can hear an argument that is very difficult for parents to cope with.
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a child comes and says: and everyone has one, the parent's maternal crown slips, oh my god, i'm a bad parent, what should i do, it seems i 'm against it, and i don't want to, and i understand everything, and it's all too early, but i don't want to be a bad parent, i want to be a good one, so what, suggest, do you have any ideas, the father of a large number of children and 300 specialist, well first, can you try this phone with the agreement that let's go for a walk with the phone, and you need a phone, here you a push-button phone, this will do, so that you can also be, also be with a phone, also be in touch, well, the request is specifically for a phone, of course not, of course, of course, of course, the child immediately realizes that everyone has smartphones, and i have a regular push-button phone, accordingly, yes, step by step you need to solve that problem as it comes up, if we give a phone and talk until the first comment, for example, until there is a comment there. or
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everything else, the following, what options can there be, everyone has one, i don’t have one, yes, and everyone has textbooks, everyone has them, you have them too, you have them too, all the kids get excellent grades, a's, or someone gets twos, someone gets twos, someone gets a's, that's what you want to be, you want to be the best or you want to be the worst, well, and in this way you can get to the point that now you can even show this, there is an experiment where they took students, sat them down... with a phone, those who had the phone on the table had the worst exam results, well, not an exam, but a test, those who had it in their school bag, those were the average students, roughly speaking, got cs, those who had a phone in the next room, in the next hall, got bs and a's, so to say that we choose, we choose, we go to school for what, to study, an indicator of good studies is good grades, and accordingly we say, the task:
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to be an excellent student, it is more significant than the task of being like everyone else, because in life the one who leads wins or becomes a leader, and not those who are led, here the child immediately says: aha, you only for me you love grades, in psychology they say that it doesn't matter, that it's not the most important thing, again a dead end, well and yes, i really don't want to say that my classmates are somehow worse than you, because in psychology we don't compare people and... i have here, if there is this problem with a child who comes and says: everyone has it, i don't have it, i think that parents watch this program, why, because now this worries a lot of people, this is a real conflict in many families, and let's solve this problem as adults, and not shift it onto our six-year-old children, our six-year-old child should realize, like i'm ready to be different from everyone else, all this, yes, that is. "we talk about this,
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we show the pros and cons, but we don't shift responsibility for this onto him, he's too little, okay, zhenya, you immediately voiced the following problem, it exists in all families, when parents tell their child. "that's it, you can't have gadgets, many are now trying to live in such a way that you can't, then later, and saying this usually this is how it happens, you can't, in short, a phone, you're still little, go," the child listens to this for a while, he says: wait a minute, what is this that you all can do, i don’t understand why i’m the only one here in this family, such a bald guy, who doesn’t have a gadget, of course, and to the parents, to whom i, as a psychologist and my colleagues say: “no, my dears, this won’t do you...” first put yours down, put it away, and then teach the child about life, tell him what he can’t do, firstly, it must be said that children are absolutely fair in this, and secondly, it must be said that parents are very often disingenuous, we say that we work, we ourselves watch a feed of something,
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and it's not very good, objectively, yes, and there is no magic pill that you can give to a child, well , deceive him a little, everything will be fine, it doesn't work like that yeah. if we talk about technical solutions, make it clear that your work is different from your leisure time, so if you tell a child what this is, call two phones, one in a red cover, yes, the other in a yellow cover, here in the red one, you directly show that you don't have a single entertainment application, if you have a red phone, then you really you work, and better yet, a desktop computer and so on, and we monitor ourselves together with the child, we develop those very a...
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you can't, and here the same situation can arise, that you are still small, you can't have it in your head, even if we don't say it, that you are small, you can't have a tablet or a phone or something else, here one of the solutions is to involve the child, to give him an understanding that he becomes an adult without a gadget, without a tablet, how? i want to say, send to the store for groceries, but we already buy the product through gadgets, but here again we are at a dead end to give, and what to give? here you can just give a gadget to say: here is your phone, order groceries, or maybe teach how to
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use it productively, that is, of course, we talked about the fact that this is a tool to show how it can be used differently, about how to demonstrate that an adult is generally a very good question in itself, how an adult is different. with gadgets, i see not only a problem sticking, if we talk about adulthood, this is some kind of infantilization in what? children who have a phone in their pocket, they are used to the fact that for any reason they can ask for help from a parent, i can see it right
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away, that is, minimal difficulty, hello, hello, hello, mom, dad, mom, dad, and this leads to the fact that children lose the habit of solving problems and thinking, in general, yes ... responsibility, the more problems will arise, that is, where they will make the wrong decisions, and here again for the parent, yes, this is the pros and cons, cons you will have well, not everything like that. stories, he knows a lot about history, sometimes it’s easier not to even strain yourself, she just says, styopa, tell the girls this,
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or remind me of this, firstly, it increases his self-esteem, it’s very important to him and it’s nice that we appreciate it, almost every child has this, you can find his strong side, his strong point is to turn to him for help, he will be in your home search engine like this, on this or that problem, on this or that issue, for him it will be very an important place of manifestation. his maturity, no matter how old he is, if you know that he knows the multiplication table perfectly well at 8 years old, then when you come to the market with him, where they are trying to, perhaps, deceive you, you can offer him, say how much is 7:6 son, and the son gives the answer, the seller is happy, not so, the parents are very happy, the child is happy that they turned to him for help, therefore all the tools, all the exercises that we are talking about today, must be used intermixed, otherwise the child will understand and he will no longer be interested. an important topic, too, why study, and this is now this was
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one of the moments that help, not to answer head-on, in general, most questions are not answered head-on, yes, but it shows the value of knowledge, for example, there is 4 years old, when the child was, he went there for an ultrasound, it was so interesting for him to look there, i say, and what do you think this doctor needs to know, this is what he should have studied, the same thing, he looks after the excavator, this is what you think he needed to know for this. today we are discussing whether a child needs a phone? but i would also like each of you to give our viewers some kind of recommendation
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, some advice, as much as possible, maybe triz-based or non-standard, one that they will not hear every day, how can they live with their children, happily, interestingly, cheerfully, with humor, non-standardly, solving certain problems, and i have such an exercise, write down what you consider problems, we parents have a lot of problems, be sure to ask your children what they see as problems, you can do it orally first, you can do it in a chat, yes, it doesn't matter, make a list of problems, and then for each problem, that's how a problem differs from a task, you can talk for a long time here, i always recommend thinking about it, and then hearing my answer, yes, then google it, then listen to the answer, a problem from a task one of the key differences is the presence of a goal, my child is stuck in a gadget. or my child does not clean up the room, this is a problem, i only suffer from the problem, it is impossible to solve,
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because this is a kind of description of a situation in which i feel bad, and the task appears when we add to this that i feel bad, the goal, how exactly i want it to look good, that is the very end result that we see, with the problem there the child is stuck in the gadget, there can be very different goals, yes, why does this bother you at all, maybe it is not a problem, maybe. and there i don’t know, ivan petrovich limits his gadgets or, on the contrary, gives them to him, you
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understand for yourself what is behind this, this is the first understanding of the problem, put the second goal, for the same problem there can be many different goals, yes, i want the child not to touch the gadget at all, i want the child to go to university, and i think that the gadget interferes with this, that's why it irritates me, i want the child to communicate with me not with memes, you know, maybe this or vice versa with memes. i don't know what you want, that is, the goals can be very different, here it is important to understand for yourself what the goal is, that is, there is a goal and a solution, yes, we are at seminars, when we work with children.
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for a very long time, you know, for a very long time people wore shoes on the left and right feet the same, because no one put such on themselves, well, everyone does it, what's the problem, but to put, to see the problem, to set a task, and often children themselves offer a solution, when the task is, yes, you will see something, you will see that it does not matter at all, yes, it often happens that way, when you start thinking, why does this bother me, yes, it's not normal, for example, with the same cleaning, instead of forcing the child to clean the room, you can, he let's say, an hour as a tutor... he will work in english for this earned money, he will find someone who will be happy to clean this room for him, and there is no such conflict, yes, as soon as we set the task not to force the child, but a clean room, the number of solutions increases, therefore more nerve cells are saved at this moment, that's for sure, your parting words, well, since we are talking about gadgets, i also want to give
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semyon as an example, at one time he liked to watch unpacking, how toys are unpacked there, i say that you are are you watching? why is this interesting, why is all this happening and so on, he also tried to become a blogger with us, he also started his own forbidden gram, a huge number of women poured in on him , asking what to advise their teenager, what to do, he lasted for a week, he said, this is terrible work, i am not ready to do this, and he stopped doing it, here i
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want to add too, yes, this is the path of the consumer, the creator, it is important, and regarding. you want to be a blogger, also a very cool case, and here you can tell the child the survivor's fallacy about how very few of those who started actually achieve success, and you only see them, only these spotlights, the majority vegetate, yes, those who studied mathematics at school well, the majority prosper, well, that's how this world is arranged, yes, that is, you can earn super money there, but there are very few of them, yes, that is, this is such a path where you need to be prepared that you are going nowhere, and secondly, there is such a. also a technique the other way around, that's how it was for you not to look, but to unpack, i know that in some, here here it’s more likely to be not a consumer, yes, yes, of course, it’s super, and there is such a technique, and i know a few stories, and in no way am i saying that it always works, yeah, but sometimes it can work when a parent suddenly changes from a ban to come on, come on, that
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is, i’ll pay you for the time on the gadget, on the first day the child is like... wow, it’s totally cool, and then 8 hours, and he’s there - i don’t know, depending on the possibilities, yes the amount, the next day you’re like, come on, work, earn money, when it becomes something, that you have to do it, children hate responsibilities, and it becomes something i don’t want to do, the next day there, and then at a certain point you also tell him: listen, i’m short on money, i ’ll now pay you half of what you get? before, for what i played, i was paid 100 rubles an hour, and now 50, but i won’t play for that money, what are you parents, yes, you can try, i’m not sure it will work, but you can try, there are children with whom they work, there are those who don’t, but the reception turnover is universal, look, very often it happens that we hit a wall, yes, there is such a technique here, to realize that i am hitting a wall to ask, what can i do differently,
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great, it seems to me, this is a very good point in our conversation today, we discussed... about gadgets, can they still be not harmful, but beneficial, and how to do this not only with the help of psychology, but with the help of tris methods, thank you for coming, this was the podcast ask surkova, thank you for being with us, all episodes of the podcast ask surkova are available on the channel one website in our social networks.
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a fool more stupid than himself, a bunch of them. and the wheels started spinning in his head, in his soaking wet head, under the abusive rain, he started to laugh, swung his fist, but if only a cross on his chest, then on the last eye he will die, the fool enters. looking for a fool more stupid than himself, and today i bought balloons, i will fly on
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hello, this is a podcast 20 years later with you host alexander anatolyevich and konstantin mikhailov, and today our issue is dedicated to the legend of russian punk rock, composer, singer, performer, poet, artist, sound engineer, leader of the group grazhdanskaya oborona, yegor letov. the song about a fool just sounded. thanks for the performance to naik barzov. hi, naik. all russian music since its appearance and how does it influence today? and i think it has influenced very much, at least such musicians who represent...
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naik, what do you think yegor letov is for russian music in general, for rock music, for music in general? yes, even one of my favorite english groups, messevtak, for example, they made a cover of yegor letov's song, everything is going according to plan, that is, it seems to me, a very, well, serious application for recognition among world-class musicians,
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letov simply did not strive for any kind of marketing, when he generally existed, the word marketing, marketing did not exist at all, therefore, well, it is understandable that he is within the russian-speaking territory, but if the english understood russian , got what the man composed, sang, how he did it, i think... he would be like that superhero on the world stage, well, in the underground, but nevertheless, this is also a very, very serious large layer of music. nike, thank you very much, thank you for stopping by, thank you for inviting us, this is a podcast 20 years later with you host alexander anatolyevich and konstantin mikhailov, and today our guest is maxim valerievich koshelev, vocalist-musician of the gromyka group. hello, dear comrade! hello!
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in his poetry, which, starting from those times of the late eighties, was more than shocking, in terms of the imagery of explanation and plausible specifics, that all the people who listened to it for the first time, they were all very simply surprised that he was the first one who dared to take such a step, you said the key word, dared, then it was a time, well, in general, of tightened screws,
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it was impossible to protest, the most frequent word that... one of those people who never looked back at the opinion of the general public, he always told me absolutely all the same what the listeners think, i will just do what i do, i look for people like me, crazy sick, crazy funny, and is it not courage it was the son of the regional committee chairman, i think that it was of course, both courage and protest, here on the verge of a conflict between fathers and sons, but it could have simply been a protest and that's it, not develop into creativity, but it developed, yeah,
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it developed, because yegor letov was always open to what came into him, he didn't think much about the conjuncture, for creativity - this is rule number one. any other opinions? the presentation, he had such a revolutionary presentation, it's punk rock, it turns out, as a genre, i even heard that it is called siberian punk rock as a genre, here is his presentation, his records, if you listen to them, everything creaks, just like his half-split scream. all this is a lot of energy, and such music - well , actually the essence is in it, how to distinguish st. petersburg punk rock, moscow punk rock from siberian punk rock, this is a difficult question, there is already some kind of qualification of the description of instructions, in my opinion , siberian is angrier like frosts in itself, moscow is glamorous, immediately by default, glamorous, everything is so well-groomed, yes, most likely, st. petersburg, yes, it is rather more intelligent, not glamorous definitely anti-glam and omsk is the most
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true siberian. it seems to me that he had a unique gift, when you can, through amazing simplicity, such a text and a guitar and convey it clearly to a large. civil defense groups, all studio, they were all recorded at home, this is such a studio, this is part of the concept, now, if you ask the internet, ask a girl with the letter a, to put civil defense, the first thing she gives out is a disgusting
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recording, according to which you simply can not draw some conclusion for yourself create an impression about the civil defense group, it's just so disgusting that it immediately makes you hate this, as far as i know, egor controlled all of this very tightly. if it came out then, it means it was with his unspoken consent, i don't even rule out that he mixed and equalized and mastered all of this himself, but still for some reason i like it more, just when egor with a guitar, well, okay, because you can hear the lyrics, because in this shit you can't hear the lyrics, yes, for me the main thing is the corner of yegor letov's creativity is his word song, which in general, why i made my program, precisely in order to... people who, for example, decided once and for all that this is not mine, so that it was, there was a chance, so that there was an opportunity to understand that no, this is mine, this is very cool, maxim valerievich, that for you, yegor letov, this is completely not in your style, yes, but nevertheless, why
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not, it is very interesting to work on someone else's material, in the gromika group it is possible to make covers of other authors, on what yegor letov's song you chose, psychonauts. the song is called, i think, glory to the psychonauts, glory to the psychonauts, that 's right, so, the gromika group yegor letov's song, glory to the psychonauts in the podcast 20 years later. great trunks are overgrown with coils. eternally become dry, creatures are chopped down, we fly like rockets, shining space inside,
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a common disease of no return, a panic thirst, to build from here, frantic angels with hungry eyes storm their heavens. glory to the psychonaphs, glory to the pioneers, hurray to the first explorers, of their multi-starred spaces, of their multi-colored depths. this is our chemical home for the sad inhabitants of the earth, this is our chemical home for the sad
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inhabitants of the earth, this is our phychic home for the sad inhabitants of the earth, this is our shivic. home for the sad inhabitants of the earth. i have trouble. i was traveling by train. i have a transfer here, 4 an hour to wait, i put my things in the storage room, you have here, suddenly you are some kind of swindler, she had square glasses, she was so made up, not that much, according to the protocol we take 300,000 from you, sign, but then moscow will decide, your bank is being robbed now, do you recognize this citizen, i honestly can't say for sure, ninel, the premiere of the multi-part... film is today on the first.
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who in sports is given a license for doping? who declared war on russian boxing? and how does the white house manage anti-doping agencies? if you are going to participate in those games that are not sanctioned by our country, then you cannot participate in the olympics. i would not be surprised if in the next 2-3 years , in principle, there will be two olympics. he actually admitted something that the americans have never. have admitted that vada is under the fbi. i am one of the williams sisters' biggest fans, what do they eat to be so big. it is probably a very healthy diet combined with great discipline. these athletes, who represent the face of united states of america, they use these same drugs. all the rules are rigged. the wbc's decision was to stop any fights taking place in russia and to exclude all fighters from the wbc. from russia, the great sport of boxing has been turned into some kind of madness,
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sat in a mask, maybe it wasn't me, it was me who was set up by the cunning pranksters vavan and lexus. the premiere, the vavan and lexus show, is on wednesday on channel one. we continue to continue the podcast 20 years later, alexander anatolyevich is here and konstantin mikhailov, there are a lot of interesting interlocutors who told us a lot new, connected with the work of the group civil defense and personally comrade letov egor. well, you can ask billy about anything, he knows everything about the group, in fact , he is the unofficial chronicler of the team, but this is not so, i am rather a person who simply reverently treats all the information that is available. how it happened, how i encountered creativity, so i was in the seventh grade, my older brother, alexey, came home from school brought a cassette. was looking for, and we were then betlomaniacs and said: listen,
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listened and, of course, it's just, well, at that age it was just funny, but it was happiness that none of us expected that such a thing could happen, and i heard these square chords like the beatles, for example, i heard a clear bass line, i heard a bass guitar, this one, like paul mccartney, yeah, well, not to mention the lyrics, this, so to speak, desperate laughter, which accompanied, you know, or preceded many songs. i was just happy, we immediately started playing on guitars with my brother immediately began to pick up and therefore play these songs, because it was super played, that immediately beat on the side, well, not that on the side, but a real new idol appeared, and just a person, and we were then still like boys, i even had a thin voice then, in general i dreamed that when i grow up, i will sing as tough, just with this brutal voice, like yegor letov, can we consider that russian punk rock? so we have already decided that moscow is glamour, glamrock, we will consider, st. petersburg there, well, rather,
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antiglam, and siberia is an icy wind, siberia is punk rock, can we say that punk rock came from siberia to russia, no, punk rock certainly didn't come to russia from there, it came from there, well, of course, no, in russia, okay, the epicenter, well, i think not, that 's how history is distorted, i don't agree, glamour, too, you can't say that, it's just that maybe in st. petersburg it's all somehow. the first time western punks, here are some photos
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there dad brought from london with painted, that means neat reactions, he says they there they sit there yes it's fashion they sit on picodile in the morning and eat sandwiches and i always thought that punks eat cool stuff, in germany, for example, all the punks, they united with dogs, punks always sit with dogs, with a pack of dogs, so siberian punk is still a philosophical punk, i think so, in some city egor went for a walk around the city before a concert, met some punks who said, are you trying to mow down podletov, what are you doing? and he said, so i am letov, you're lying. take that, take that, and they beat him up, oh-oh-oh, and he went out on stage, all beaten up, said, i won't come to your city anymore, i heard this story, i don't know how true it is, it could be, i had the same story with billy's band, i was standing at night, so to speak, by the fence, i was told that you, you want to
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knock up a newbie, i said, well, that's how i am, i am him, she said, well, if you are belinovik, come on, let's have a blast in the st. petersburg style, sing the second verse of the song, but i'm used to singing from the first. and so i stand there, there was a little bit of that same drunk, and i can't remember the second font, how is it, if i had sung first, i would have sung, i can't sing the second font, well , they didn't beat me, of course, that's it, but i got so much hate, that's the story, mind you, the fans know from every seat, yeah, let's sing, let's sing, billy novik and the song, everything is like people's yegor letov in the podcast 20 years later. that's everything that was, wasn't and isn't,
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