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everything is like people, this podcast is 20 years later, we are its hosts alexander anatolyevich and konstantin mikhailov. we talk about the work of egor letov, about his person, about his legacy, well, everything that is connected with this name, egor letov. forte family, how did it happen that this work captured you? our group we play cover versions mainly, mainly rock, stage, pop scene, we touch on a little, well, well, foreign and of course i want something of my own, the russian rock scene, well , unfortunately.

and so on and here it is quite difficult for us, as a string band , to do something, korol shut, for example, is very interesting because it has a variety of arrangements, they are more interesting to play, here is punk rock, it is even more straightforward, uh, minimalistic, i would say, yes, say it is primitive, i don’t want to, why, it is a normal term, there is such a direction primitivism, there is, there is, of course, when we were preparing the composition that we would perform.

we were looking for who does it, how, because the song is famous and many people have replayed it, and strangely enough, on the concert recordings there are guitars that play melodies and some additional things, accelerations and so on, that is, they have arrangements at concerts, concert recordings, well, this song, at the very least, is much better than what they did, well, to each his own, how can i say, that is, more varied, more interesting, yes, and for guitarists. he constantly plays different parts, he does not stop at one thing, that's it drums there is also a full kitchen, everything works, so yeah, guys, listen to the live bands, you will find a lot of interesting things there, this is a podcast 20 years later, we are its host alexander anatolyevich, and konstantin mikhailov, we continue to talk about yegor letov, mayak, tell me, well, you are a millennial, you are very young, i am even, even i am more of a zoomer.

zoomer is even younger, i was born in 1999, a zoomer, because zoomer is the wife of a zoomer, well, it doesn't matter how old, it doesn't matter, that is, by definition, to touch the work of civil defense and yegor letov you shouldn't have in theory, yes, how did it happen to you, it just happened to me, my dad loved rock, punk rock, in general, as if in childhood, somewhere in the 10s, i grew up, in fact, i... had a favorite group remains, i really appreciate the work of the king of the jester, so i, as if in the 2010s, i really loved rock and i listened to everything that came out even earlier, that is - the group there is kino, of course, yanka dyageleva, by the way, no one mentioned her, today, probably, i will mention her, yes - well, and yegor letov, everything is going according to plan, when i performed on arbat, i sang this song, this is a school on arbat, so yes...

so somehow it's a thin thread, but again because it's good, you've noticed it correctly, yes, the recordings are so peculiar, and for me, for example, it's hard to listen to, that is, it was always easier for me to listen once... twice or even hear covers and then sing them again, well, on my own, so maybe i don't even know many of the songs how they sound when he performs them, but at the same time i know how they sound in covers, i also very i probably wanted to add this thought about yegor letov, it seems to me that his lyrics are such a russian soul, today we talked about moscow, st. petersburg, yes, that these are the points where this punk rock was formed, new movements, conditionally everything is connected with what time it was, what changes there were, it seems to me that he was able to really let this heavy thought pass through himself, and that this is very close to a russian person, that is, when i listen to his lyrics, many of them resonate with me things that are close, i think, wow, how cool, how

it can be a little bit dark somewhere, and funny somewhere, and how he mixes it and how cool it turns out in the end, mother siberia, and how great that any person can take all this. just sit down with a guitar in any yard and play, that is, this is super universal creativity, in fact, you can even call it pop in some sense, because you can it is popular, then it is pop, yes, a folk song, that is, yegor letov is such a folk, folk performer - this is cool, well, what is the result, here we are sitting with you and discussing it, it's super cool, i think that the song is all going according to plan, it's the most frequently performed song in russia. unit of time this song is performed, i think this means that it is a folk song, thank you very much, podcast 20 years later, today i hosted people with whom

we talked about the work of the legendary russian musician egor letov and the group grazhdanskaya oborona. you can find all the episodes of the podcast 20 years later on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. well, let's sing, let's sing, that very one, that very one, everything is going according to plan, everything is going according to plan, borders, the key is broken in half, our father lenin is completely dry, he has decomposed into mold on linden honey, and perestroika is still going and going according to plan, all the dirt has turned into bare ice, and... everything is going according to plan, and everything is going according to plan, and my fate wanted to retire, i promised her not to participate in the war

game, she is my furashkina, sickle and young and a star, how touching it is a serb and young and a star, a dashing lantern, denmark is running around and everything is going according to plan, everything is going according to plan, and my wife was fed to the crowd, with the world fist, they trampled her chest, all the people's freedom tore her flesh apart, so bury her in christ, because everything and... is going according to plan, again everything is going according to plan, and one grandfather lenin, he was a good leader, all the others, such crap, all the other

enemies and such fools, over our native fatherland, a mad snow was falling, i bought the magazine "korea" and... it will be free, everything will be cool there, there, probably, there will be no need to die at all, i woke up in the middle of the night and realized that everything is going according to plan plan, everything is going according to plan, everything is going according to plan,

everything is going according to plan. hello, dear viewers, you are watching a special edition of the triggers podcast, here in the studio we are continuing the topic of the series mutual consent, and we are talking about abuse, about abusive relationships and their consequences for victims of abusive relationships. with you is the host tatyana krasnovskaya and sergey nasebyan, our guest today is evgenia. evgenia, hello, hello, hello, what did you want to talk about , what did you want to deal with? i wanted

to deal with the problems that are dragging on from childhood and still do not allow me to live in my adult life. will you tell your story? the story is quite uncomplicated, simple, but very tragic. i grew up. in a foster family and all this life period of childhood, growing up, i lived in an atmosphere of very harsh abuse, you said foster family, how did this happen? well, since childhood i heard the story that my parents abandoned me, and my real aunt, who was my guardian, well, took me away so that i would not be sent to an orphanage.

what was the abuse and were there others children? my aunt had three children of her own, i was

the eldest and accordingly performed all the functions of a nanny, yeah, but the abuse, of course, was not in this at all, in the fact that from the aunt's side there were constant reproaches that it was because of me that she could not get married successfully, it was because of me that her husband was perverted. and from the side of her spouse - this is a situation of violence, that is, well, i was beaten very badly as a child, my aunt or her husband? husband, yeah, and there was sexual harassment, it did not come to direct sexual violence, yeah, but it was sexual stalking followed me for many years, yeah, at what age did it start? well, probably around twelve years old. how did it manifest itself? touching, feeling, stroking,

climbing into bed at night, i was very afraid to go to bed, i locked the door, yeah, uh, one day he came drunk, started breaking into my room, it was locked, the next morning the first thing he did was cut the lock out of the door. did all this happen in front of my aunt? yeah, she knew all this. yeah, how did she react? she told me, don't pay attention to him, he's drunk. well, don't pay attention, i mean, maybe, don't be offended, that's still okay, how can you ignore the very act of him pestering you? eh, well, all of this was brought out as my fault, that it was because of you that i have this husband, and not some other one, did you believe that? well, you know, before... i began to love her, i stopped perceiving her as my mother, i found out very early that i was adopted, and

well, of course, my thoughts as a child were completely different, because i perceived the lack of attention, the lack of love as de facto, yeah, i'm the oldest, i'm the most i'm an adult, and well, you don't need to coddle me like you do those who are younger. but then i realized that she just didn't love me, when i collected all the documentation related to the deprivation of parental rights of my parents, for me, well, everything fell into place, this important question that sergey asked you, did you believe that this was really the result of your behavior, that it was your fault, you know, 50/50, on the one hand, i realized that this is how he is, on the other hand, it was for me.