describing the movement of clouds describing the effect of color, it sounds strange today, what i created in the doctrine of color is worth everything i wrote as a poet, this is the greatest book, nature itself can envy me, god himself, although in some other place he complains that he wasted a lot of energy on something that is not the main thing, by the main thing, as i understand it, i mean poetry, the main thing is still faust, you understand, there really is no escape, but in faust there is a huge amount of embedded. his double, you understand, because goethe himself constantly strived for this knowledge, knowledge not only of himself, but also of what is around, and faust is absolutely, of course, not a medieval mystic, he is absolutely such a character of the age of enlightenment, and there is also a very interesting quote, shortly before his death.

75 years of the great goethe, we gathered our thoughts about his life and work, we continue, let 's still finish with how goethe was read by russian culture, what russian culture saw first of all in goethe, yes, well, and pushkin, bulgakov, whatever you consider important and necessary to say here, by the way, to say, while you are thinking, yes, and how do you like this version, that perhaps goethe heard in someone's retelling from his travels.

measles was similar to goethe, and kalinych was more like schiller. can you imagine how deeply rooted this idea of ​​goethe is and that of peasants from the village. and the most interesting thing is that this peasant khor, according to fet, later read this story, well, of course, without this sentence, he read it syllable by syllable, writes afanasy fet, but could he really have imagined that this peasant was being compared with goethe. and it seems to me that this comical story has some very deep meaning. so, goethe is very deeply rooted. in

the mentality of the russian enlightenment era, that's what's important, and then this long history of the translation of faust began, which has not ended to this day, and neither kholotkovsky's translation, nor pasternak's translation, nor the translation that appeared in 2019 by a very famous russian linguist, he did not close the problem of faust, if it can be closed at all, he only raised new questions, so we are waiting, now vladimir borisovich mikushevich also works.

of which, of course, we can't forget, these are of course the goethes, but still the lyrics did not have such a strong influence, and apparently, this faustian theme, yes, it turned out to be so fundamental, yes, for the russian reception, that it runs like a red thread through the 19th century, yes , adoevsky, turgenev, yes, well, of course, bulgakov already in the 20th century, yes, this is of course, a continuation of precisely this line, yes, well, well, and another important theme is what... pyotr valerievich spoke about, this is the reception of precisely his religious and philosophical ideas, which is connected with anthroposophy, had a gigantic influence, of course, on the russian symbolism of andrei bely it is impossible to imagine, yes, without goethe, yes, these two lines, they somehow

interact there in some mysterious way, yes, through some secret internal connections, yes, and i think that it is possible that other aspects of goethe's work are still waiting for their russian. without which you cannot live, if such exists, for me, as a philosopher, of course , these key philosophical intuitions, which we haven't talked about very much, this amazing skill of his, his amazing vision

of reality as a complex game, polarities, opposites, yes, that means, she has the famous in maxims and reflections, the famous... statement says: yes, it's wrong when they say that between two extremes lies the truth, between them lies the problem, he says, yes, this is what, it seems to me, permeates all of goethe's work, this idea, yes, it is in his lyrics, it is in his dramatic collisions, in his theatrical works, in faust, of course, yes, it is the same, it is imbued with his famous novels and elective affinity and meister, yes, this vision is here...

i think that we will definitely continue it, i thank you, rezvykh, pyotr valerievich abramov, i am vladimir ligoydo, we were gathering our thoughts about the great goethe, the full version of our issue about goethe all other issues gathered our thoughts, you can watch on the official pages of the podcastlab project. this podcast is a must-read, i am aglana batnikova, and today we will discuss the book by clarice pinkola estes, who runs with the wolves with the jungian analyst, writer varvara popova. varvara, hello. good evening. the book by clarice

pencola estes, who runs with the wolves is a modern work, but it is a collection of fairy tales, with an analysis by a jungian analyst, right? yes, with an expanded commentary by a jungian analyst and with a large number of some additions and other interesting nuances. well, the book is aimed at women to awaken the wild woman in themselves. and what is wild woman, varvara? well, klasarisa estos characterizes her as some kind of universal, global, multifaceted, thousand-faced female archetype, and personifying female strength, some kind of female power, some kind of connection with such a deep self, but i would call it that... she probably refers to the category of such a feminine self, that is , some kind of such a true state of deep contact with oneself and at the same time with something that surpasses our ego, that is , something, probably, divine transcendental, she spends a lot parallel and says that the primordial woman has many names and lists them, that

she could be counted as gikata, and as nike, the goddess of the night, and as aphrodite and as a spider grandmother, in general, she gives many parallels and says that yes, a wild woman is some kind of powerful, internal and at the same time external.

there is this ritualization, and so, i would say, some kind of internal through external, that this is rather a kind of metaphor for such a healthy psychological state, she gives very clear characteristics of what is a healthy wild woman, this is a woman who looks like a healthy she-wolf, who loves to hunt, play, love her offspring with... their partners, in general, it's about some very, rather healthy internal setting, and probably also about a connection of some instinctive nature, that's why she uses the image of an animal, that an animal somehow understands very well where to run, what to hunt, what kind of grass is poisonous, where you can drink from, yes, yes, if these are hunters, then you need to be from hunters run away, that is, most likely she means this healthy instinctive nature, which tells us how to navigate this. in the world normally maintain mental health? clarissa pinkola from phd, a very

educated woman, and nevertheless she tries to find some truth, the truth - in some fairy tales, ancient legends, that is , she is also an ethnographer, how was this book written, as i understand it, it was collected bit by bit in different parts of the world, that is, it was not such that clarissa sat down and wrote a plan of chapters in order: no... how was this book created? initially, it existed in the form of podcasts. and clarissa created it - for her daughters. what does this mean? well, first of all, she has daughters herself, that is, she began to write down history for her own daughters. and for those women whom she called her daughters. for example, she is still the director of such a community of those recognized by the virgin mary of gwoduba. this is a community organized by chicana women. chicano are women immigrants from mexico to the united states. and accordingly she began to write down these supporting stories, analyze these tales, in order to

provide some kind of spiritual support to other women who needed it, and indeed this is such a fusion of ethnography, folklore studies, literary analysis and depth of psychology, clarissa herself even said that she fills the space between the pillars of classical psychology, that is, she in... at this point i discovered that classical psychology simply discovered gaps , not just gaps, that it does not satisfy some of the demands of the female soul, plus she separately emphasized that she herself is not a woman of european descent, and that something from classical european psychology, it simply does not fit, well, representatives of other nationalities, they have, because some other basis, another culture, in general, not everything turned out to fit everything, and i really liked this metaphor, that yes, there are crowds. and there are what is between them, this space between, it generally occupies a very important place in the work of klaisa herself, because she

mentions the so-called world between worlds, dual citizenship, this is precisely the space between, she simultaneously felt this space between in general in science, in science and in psychology. fairy tales are a healing thing, or well, that is, what place do they occupy in fairy tale analysis? yes, indeed, fairy tales are used as... a tool for working with the psyche, for influencing the psyche, well, here's to larisa for example.