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get up and just deals. hello, this is the ask surkova podcast lab. today my guests are evgeniya gin and petr pavel surkov, specialists in potris. today we have a painful topic, it worries just every parent. what is a phone, is it evil or useful and how to build a healthy relationship with gadgets? evgeniya, i want to start by telling me that your child is 10 years old and he doesn't have a phone. how did you live to see such a life? well, here it would be correct and honest to say that he has a tablet that lives at home, yes, that is, constant connections
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that he has with him, he doesn't have, and i just don't see, you were just talking about harm or benefit, we, as triz specialists, know that there is always harm and benefit in everything and it is important to weigh which is more in a particular situation, and of course there is benefit from a phone, however, when we talk about small children up to... adolescence, maybe a little older, you and i know that children, at least at 10 years old they look like adults, it seems like they are just smaller, but from the point of view of the maturation of their brain, thinking, volitional functions, they are not yet... they are much worse at managing all this, and the phone is a crazy temptation, and if we give it to him, it is always in his pocket, then the child must be just a superman, so that he can use a tablet, what kind of relationship do you have, then what is this substitution, also a gadget, and also a gadget, yes, and he has had it for a long time, and here of course the question of forming habits, i generally really love
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the topic of habits, habits of thinking, habits of behavior, yes, because they really help to organize. all day long watching lectures, and despite the fact that it needs to be digested, that is, you can’t i don’t have any parental control, any kind of, i don’t go in, i don’t look at the viewing history, and there are periods when he jumps from nouchpop to cartoons, but again it seems to me.
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to say that at that moment i was sitting at my desk, the context of the situation is important, and he told me that you associate with me with your little sheets of paper, stickers, on which you constantly write your to-do list, it's true, that is, i also have everything in electronic form, but what i write for the day on sheets of paper, my son and i also do it every day, when we go home from school, we plan what we 'll do, and you know, a gadget, it has become a very simple way to keep yourself busy, you don't have to strain yourself, so to come up with something to take a jump rope, take a ball.
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pyotr pavel, you and i have a child together and not just one, we have many children, yes, our eleven-year-old daughter got a phone, their no one has tablets, well except for my son, who is 17 and my two older ones, he doesn't have a tablet either, he has a phone, he has a computer and a phone, yes, but my daughter, who is 11, got a phone, now it was a subject of bargaining, why did i say that this is such a modern currency, including in the relationship between children and parents, because she received a discount on tuition at school under the initial conditions, that is, as in generally decent business-some kind of relationship, before she began to participate in the olympiad, we discussed that she will receive if she wins this discount, she said: i will need a phone twice a week for half an hour, very modestly, she received it spends all her time on school chats, on being in society, in
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fact, i don’t like it either, how can i replace the wonderful school chats for her, in which... some kind of general bakhanal happens, i discussed this with her this morning, i listened to who wrote what to whom there, what who forwarded, i sit and think where to run, well, i can’t take the phone, this is the condition of the contract, they completed, but i really want to offer her another way to spend time, this is not nonsense, what can i replace it with, offer me a solution to this complex inventive parenting problem, well, just specifically the triz problem before... there must be a phone, there must not be a phone, or that problem containing a contradiction, that is, something must be and something must not be, at the same time, well, already in the contradiction itself there is part of the answers, part of the solution, that is, there must be a phone for that, because they promised, because the contract was kept and there should be no phone, so that there is no wasted time, that is,
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both, that is, leave her chats and offer something else or i don’t quite understand, let me even narrow it down a little here. i am categorically against this communication and so on, yes for god’s sake, well, the question is always some kind of main line, are we mainline about development or are we mainline about sticking and this. here, if we speak in the language of contradictions, here there should rather be communication, but how can we do without it, yes, we are social animals, it is necessary, at the same time, as i
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understand it, you are concerned about the quality of this communication, that it is somehow not right, and here there are different moments, here you can show the child resources, when we communicate with our friends, what we talk about, that we are not talking about skirts and lipstick or who looked at whom with whom. we can discuss some meaningful things, yes, questions that concern you, well, that is, you can be a role model, we demonstrate how you can discuss books, discuss knowledge, discuss science and and so on, this is the first point, we can find, show in general how to communicate, because children often have no topic, that's why they chew on all this, and secondly, i really like the saying, when it comes to motivation, that if you want a cucumber to become salted, put it in brine. such a point that we look for an environment for our child, communication depends very much on the environment, and there is an environment in which no matter how wonderful, personally our child
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is not, he will discuss everything that you do not like, he will swear, he will be well and so on and so on, because well, that's how it's accepted, these are the laws of this society, i'll also add, since we 've moved from the topic of the telephone, our contradiction, to communication, then we can judge even more, here here here is specific. consists in chats, we talked about the fact that communication in chats is already in itself as an intrinsic value, about the fact that this spammer, this flooder, this one needs to be blocked, this one needs to be turned off from the admins, because incorrect communication in chats, that is, we narrow the problem, and this problem, yes, the bearer of this problem is phone, phone is a supersystem in relation to chat, therefore when we talk about the fact that there should be a phone, because the promise has been fulfilled and... there should not be a phone or there should not be a phone, so that there are no such problems with the scattering of attention, with the substitution of live communication, with
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the substitution of concepts, because at school they communicate normally, at the moment we are talking about a conflict already in chats, and we need to solve this problem, speaking about adolescence, i understand perfectly well that for a phone for for many it is a sign of adulthood, in this case, if we are talking about chats or we are talking about social networks, for many... children - it is a sign that i am growing up, that i am breaking some rules, i absolutely agree with my wife here, because it is really important to break them sometimes, you can't be perfect all the time, you can go crazy when they are at school, they also want to do a little mischief, they also want to say forbidden words, they also want to do something like that, but here there is a mixing of two lives, because they are small, they are 11 years old, this is their first experience, they came to high school, it seems to them that we are such adults, fifth grade. everything is already and this mixing happens, that they transfer the chat to real life, this is the first experience of mixing these lives, virtual and real, and it can
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be traumatic for children in many ways, but from you i want some unique solutions, maybe exercises, maybe games, maybe initiatives to resolve conflicts in these chats or even establish rules, that is, as psychologists we say, so the children came, said, we will write list of rules, we will sign up and follow them, but surely it is possible to do it in some non-standard way, suggest what you have in three with pedagogy on this topic that is interesting, first of all, if you think that someone is breaking the rules, ask others, these rules must be accepted by society, a cucumber, in order to become salty, must be put in brine, in the same way a child, in order to become well-mannered, must be brought up, well, accordingly, show him certain examples, in this case, if ... we are again talking about chats and about everything else, it is necessary for the child to be not only in his school chat, but also to be present somewhere in other chats, where there is
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an example of how people communicate, how issues are resolved, it is very important, a very important clarification, because zhenya yes, brought in an absolutely sound thought, i am all for the fact that the child should see that his parents are friends and how he communicates with them and what happens, but this is different, because friends are here at the table. the child does not see in the chats, maybe we do the same there, it is scary to imagine, when here, by the way, is a good idea, think about where you can add your child to a family chat, if you don’t have one, create one, ask in this family chat also his opinion on some absolutely elementary topics, for example, what to cook for dinner today, so that he sees that his opinion is important, well yes, that he is not just a spectator, yes, yes, that you have three with pedagogy, about communication in chats, all this, it’s really cool here, i also thought, here is a tool of the subsystem and others, when we have other chats, or from the same chat, you say, there is one who is hurt, there is another who breaks the rules,
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and you can offer it to your child, and invite there. that is, there is no element of resentment here, there is a topic, and we are already communicating on this topic, the second point, i really like what is called cases, in psychology, this is a whole topic, child, let me not educate you, let us look at other people's situations and discuss how we could have acted in them, i very often do this with my child, when we see, for example, here is a real case, we leave school and
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we see... like one of the children, a boy, his mother says, and he screwed up something, did something wrong, she tells him: weekend without a phone, on the weekend you will read a book, a good punishment, yes, and my son and i go, and i tell him, what do you think, what did the boy feel, and what did his mother feel, and what do you think, this kind of punishment, what are the pros and cons, that is, again, i do not pose a dilemma of bad, good, here in triz there is a wonderful game, well, triz teachers even more likely, it helps. we can take an object candy, phone, what's good about it, what 's bad about it, and there's also a cool version of this game, when we take some situation, name some situation, here's an obviously bad one, a child smokes, for example, a child smokes, what 's good about it, nothing, no, this answer is not accepted, what's good about it, he'll get
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a negative experience and won't want to do it.
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hide with bad words that we came up with this game for you, because it's necessary for the parent to be a little bit one step ahead in this situation, there is a similar methodology in psychology, this is called projective methods, sometimes it can be a little easier, because if we can offer small children drawings, modeling, therapeutic fairy tales, teenagers respond well to therapeutic stories or as therapeutic tales are sometimes called, that that guy who smoked,
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everything fell off for him. if they never tell us this, we can work on it together, you want him to hug us, hold us, kiss us, well, so that all this would happen, sometimes he hugs and kisses, for real, like an adult, i you i love him, i just felt like everything inside me was burning, i had this feeling that he knew everything, well, naturally, i immediately heard in my address how good i am, pretty, smart, promising and so on, they see each other...
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they hear, feel, attract each other, i understand that a special operation is being prepared, he had an individual entrepreneur opened, he says, i need an llc, unfortunately, i agreed, andrey sends me documents, according to... on which it turns out that he is not andrey, but eduard. premiere, manipulators, tomorrow on the first. he such an actor, wonderful, he can play anyone, and can seduce any woman. maybe he plays his best role with you? on the ninetieth birthday of oleg basilashvili. lord, how handsome you are, well, this is against my background. from here, i 'll beat your whole face, they say, you can't outplay children and animals, here you can't outplay baska either, don't ask for anything, never and nothing, how could it be played, i still can't understand, he dances as he should, sings as he should, he
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does everything, let's drink to the happiness of my wife, if if it weren't for galya, i wouldn't be here, well, the way i feel now, my mother was a famous person, my father was then a budding artist, then oleg went into roles, he gave our viewers some kind of recommendation, some kind of advice, as much as possible, maybe triz-like or non-standard, the one that they won't hear every day, how can they live with their children, happily, interestingly , cheerfully, with humor, solving
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certain problems in a non-standard way, and i have this exercise, write out what you consider problems, we parents have a lot of problems, be sure ask your children what they see as problems, you can do this first at... only i suffer, and it is impossible to solve, because this is a certain description of the situation in which i feel bad, and the task appears when we add to this i feel bad, the goal, how exactly i want it to look good, this is
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the very end result that we see, with the problem, there the child is stuck in the gadget, there can be very different goals, yes, why does this bother you at all, maybe this is not a problem, maybe he studies in this gadget, self-actualizes and in general. great, maybe yes, and maybe this is a real problem, i don’t know, so here it’s important to understand why you feel, there the child doesn’t read, and why is this a problem, maybe he listens to audiobooks all day long, will this suit you or not, i’m not giving answers now, i’m not saying whether this is good or bad, it’s important to first realize, that is, to your decisions, and here again not because others do it, the neighbor reads, yes, and there i don’t know, ivan petrovich has gadgets that limit him.
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well, it worries me, and it’s okay, let’s say, with the same cleaning, instead of forcing the child to clean the room, you can, let's say, he will work as an english tutor for an hour for this earned money will find someone who will gladly take him. this room, and there is no such conflict, yes, as soon as we set the task not to force the child, but a clean room, our number of solutions increases, and more nerve cells are preserved at this moment, what kind of parting words do you have, well, since we are talking about gadgets, i also want to give semyon as an example, at one time he liked to watch unpacking, how toys are unpacked there, i say, what are you looking at, this is also our son, who is now 17 years old, why are you watching this? let's better film your unpackings every
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week, i bought him construction sets there and we assembled these construction sets, i say, let 's film this, you will have your own videos, and you will not have to waste time looking at these videos, yes we started filming, after some time he did not want to watch these unpackings, he was tired of it, yes we filmed ours, everything became clear, how is it for everything is done in a frame, why is it interesting, why is all this happening and so on, he is also a blogger. he tried to become one with us, he also started his own forbidden gram, a huge number of women came to him asking what to advise their teenager, what to do, he lasted for a week, he said, this is terrible work, i am not ready to do this, and he stopped doing it, here i want to add too, yes, this is the path of the consumer-creator, it is important, and about the dream, i want to be a blogger, also a very cool case, and here ... you can tell the child the survivor's fallacy about how very
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few of those who started actually achieve success, and you only see them, only these spotlights, the majority vegetate, yes, those who studied mathematics at school well, the majority prosper, well, that's how this world is arranged, yes, that is, you can make super money there, but there are very few of them, yes, that is, this is such a path where you have to be prepared that you are going nowhere, and secondly, there is also such a three-way turnover, that's how it was for you not to look, but to unpack, i know that in some, here it is rather to be not a consumer, but a creator, yes, yes, of course, it is super, and there is such a technique, and i know several tales and in no case am i saying that it always works, yeah, but sometimes it can work when a parent abruptly changes from a ban to come on, come on, that is, i will pay you for the time in the gadget, on the first day the child is like, wow, it's totally cool, and then 8 hours. and for him there - i don't know depending on the possibilities yes the amount
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the next day you are like come on, earn this money, when it becomes something, that you have to do it, children hate responsibilities, and it becomes something that i don’t want to do, the next day there, and then at a certain point you also tell him: listen, i’m short on money, i ’ll now pay you half of what i used to get paid 100 rubles an hour for playing, and now 50, but i won’t... play for that money, what are you parents, well, yes, yes, you can try, i’m not sure it will work, but you can try, yes, there are children with whom it works, there are those who don’t, but the turnover, it’s universal, look, it’s very it often happens that we hit a wall, yes, there is such a technique here, to realize that i hit a wall ask myself what i can do differently, great, i think this is a very good point in our conversation today, and we talked about gadgets, can they still be not harmful, but beneficial? and how to do this not only with the help of psychology, but with
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the help of tris methods. thank you for coming, this was the ask surkova podcast, thank you for being with us. all episodes of the ask surkova podcast are available on the channel one website in our social networks. hello, the vremya program is on air, ekaterina andreeva is in the studio, the main events of the day. marinovka and lisovka have been liberated, successes of our defenders of the donetsk people's republic and new attacks on the rear in the ssu. a warm welcome. for the enemy, russian paratroopers are squeezing ukrainian militants out of the kursk border area,
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a report from the front line. the most powerful attack on beirut israel struck the headquarters of the hezbollah movement, which is located under residential buildings. energy for life, how to ensure reliability in any conditions in all regions. meeting of the relevant commission of the state council at the russian energy week in moscow. the meeting place is new york, the negotiating marathon of sergey lavrov on the pole, the un general assembly and the expired zelensky still asked to meet with trump. will be equipped with onises, calibers and hypersonic zircons in st. petersburg, a new frigate for the pacific fleet was launched. the last applause for the artist who could play everything. in the moscow region, they forgave roman mayanov, whose filmography includes more than 200 roles.
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a new world-class concert hall in the center vladikavkaz in a building with a rich history, in honor of the opening of the stage of the zvezdny theater and... under the direction of valery georgiev. and at the beginning of the program, the results of the week from the ministry of defense. our troops are developing an offensive in the dpr. in the pokrovsky direction, the group of troops of the center liberated marinovka, the day before the city of ukrainsk and the neighboring village of lesovka. in this regard, defense minister andrei belousov congratulated the fighters of the 114th separate rifle brigade in telegrams. the southern group knocked out. the enemy from grigorovka near chasovy yar and from settlement of ostroye on the way to kurakhova. the losses of the vysu vzhevoy siliye, taking into account the kursk direction , exceeded 16 soldiers. high-precision strikes on the rear facilities of the kiev formations continue, including at a great distance from the front line. from
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september 21 to 27, the armed forces of the russian federation carried out 33 group strikes with high-precision weapons, including hypersonic aeroballistic missiles kinzhal, as well as strike unmanned aerial vehicles, as a result of which enterprises of the military-industrial complex were damaged the energy facilities that provided their work, the infrastructure of military airfields, as well as a military echelon with western weapons and equipment were also hit. in addition, workshops for the production and storage sites of unmanned aerial vehicles and unmanned boats, arsenals, ammunition and fuel depots, temporary deployment points and concentration areas of units of the armed forces of ukraine, national formations of foreign mercenaries were hit. local monitoring resources report new explosions in western ukraine, khmelnytskyi region. russian sources specify that hypersonic daggers have landed at the starokonstantinov military airfield, there is a fire at the site of impact. the priority targets of such strikes are f-16 and su-24 aircraft, carriers of western
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-made cruise missiles such as the scalp and storm shadow. in the kursk direction, the enemy is being pushed back by northern fighters. over the past 24 hours, more than ten attempts to break through the border have been repelled, five counterattacks, the occupiers have left more than 330 people, 16 armored vehicles, guns and an electronic warfare station on kursk land. in this footage, tanks t-72s operate both direct fire and from closed positions. from the air, strikes on concentrations of militants are carried out by su-34 frontline bombers. they are covered by super-maneuverable fighters with controlled thrust vector su-35s. their task also includes patrolling the airspace. the enemy has been trying to break through our border in the glushkovsky district of the kursk region for several days, but the tactics of attacking in small groups no longer work, the militants are met with all weapons by russian paratroopers, the sorties end for the ukrainian armed forces with losses of manpower and equipment from the front line , dmitry kulko's report is developing, it is full of birds,
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he reports that this is a reconnaissance drone, this is the glushkovsky district, where the enemy. has been trying to ram the border for a week in the hope of making a new breakthrough into russian territory, under the incessant beeping of the drone detector, anti-tank soldiers are preparing a hot reception, this is already an enemy drone kamikaze above us, suv, the bulak worked on a short time, and disperse, dense forests, of which there are many in the kursk region, cover perfectly, again the mother-in-law, despite the threats from the sky, the fighters they are setting up a position and giving heights for glushkov.

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