who come, they come to see our culture, to learn about it or to show their own or in search of an answer, how to build now after, as our president says, the era of vulgar globalism is over, they are all in search or restoration of their cultural code, that's what they come with? you know, on the one hand, yes, and it sounded, we had one very important session, we all sat down together, talked for about 3 hours.

a small but meaningful dialogue with konstantin lvovich ernst, and he said, that now there is a trend that the cis countries, they, in general, somehow turned towards our film market, and i really see this simply by the number of trips that v gik has, for example, and so on, that's what this is also connected with, to the return to their roots, in general it must be said that in russia creative education. students from 103 countries receive, it is clear that there are not only friendly ones, we are glad to all talented children who study with us, these are traditions from soviet times, but you know, that in tsarist russia, guys from different countries ended up in our corpses, in our ballet schools, now our colleagues from the cis countries are returning to the topic of national cinema, firstly, here in the state film fund everything is stored, conditionally, you understand, there is no such azerbaijani, there is no such georgian.

famous directors, once every 3 years they will make some kind of their own film, take it to festivals, show it and that will be enough, yes, in fact, the work of the film fund led and then the institute for the development of the internet, of course, because a huge number series of a completely different quality, i can tell you more, in this sense we are such a homeland of elephants that even in cinema, and the level that series set influenced... the level of full-length films, that is, all over the world, our series, of course, because our series have changed, i'll tell you, it worked, it worked like that, because when your series are so professionally and qualitatively made, well, i'll say this about trends there, say, five years ago, we have art-house cinema and even our blockbusters at some point they started to look up to russian tv series, which really became absolutely. if we talk, of course,

about how our cinema is developing and what we have in roskino, there 32 countries last year accepted our weeks of russian cinema with incredible. interest before the special military operation we had simply fantastic interest in sales, of course, in european countries, and separate contracts with major american studios, yes, this story ended abruptly, overnight, very harshly, but look how interestingly history has changed, yes, but there is, what interest from china, there is incredible interest from the cis, what konstantin lvoevich says about this... when i meet with my colleagues, ministers of the cis countries, and they ask me how the series will end, i won't say which one, well, will there be a second season, because children are watching, of course we understand that our russian platforms at this moment, of course we are very proud of them and root for them, and he wants them to

develop in a variety of genres to appear more of such quality product. on air is a special edition of the creative industry podcast. dedicated to the recently held tenth anniversary international cultural forum in st. petersburg. our guest is the minister of culture of the russian federation olga borisovna lyubimova. we have a chance to enter the brics market. or are we already there in principle and just don’t know something. let’s take, for example, chinese children, they don’t know, for example, that smeshariki is a russian cartoon. at some point, kikoriki? yes, kikoriki, moreover. special cafes and a bunch of all sorts of toys related to this, coloring books, markers, costumes and so on, they just love, i can tell you more, the creators of smeshariki, producer ilya popov was forced to add a panda, because the chinese did not understand, well, there is a forest,

there is no panda, how is that possible, where is it then in principle, yes , the persian gulf countries are very interested in animation, classic animation, masha and the bear, a girl. a girl is a child, this feeling of tenderness, desire, therefore, to protect, to do good to a small child, who terribly resists, the same delight that this causes in children's audiences, because it's all about their daily life, such a simple, seemingly drawn cartoon causes absolute delight and

resonates, these are traditional values ​​in fact, just like the relationship of all these wonderful smeshariki, in this sense, wonderful relationships. in thailand they love our animation very much, in general in asia they love our animation, in this sense, creative industries have very clear horizons, we understand where we are loved, we understand, we know the markets where we are are waiting for new projects, it is very important at this moment, well, and i know russian producers, they are fighting for the possibilities of joint production and collaboration and so on, and for us it is very important to simply create such conditions, including. joint production is a very important issue, in fact, a large film cluster has opened in moscow, but such things influence something, ultimately on the possibility of just such joint productions, on the success of our film market, and we understand perfectly well that audiovisual production, i will say now

a hyper-banal thing, must be of very high quality, it is impossible to make some big children's blockbuster with bad graphics , any fairy tale.

people who come to the cinema, just bring a child to have a good time, this is an amazing effect, which

actually speaks about the state of society's need, if you want the market in the language of economics, exactly in such a product, these 7 billion rubles in collections, this is all about what we have missed, that is, when grown men wrote to me, forgive me special military operations, that i was 2 weeks with children, went to the cinema... awkwardly burst into tears, just thank you very much, will there be a second part, what will happen to gormash, we are all very worried as a family, like, and i felt awkward in front of the children, because the children were sitting and saying: dad, well, don't cry, everything will be fine with cheburashka, come to your senses, but in fact it's a question of the fact that of course in any genre i really want more films about love, about human relationships, and family, the opportunity to do what you love, where you live. his inventions,

reflect and be sure that what you feel and experience, such wonderful people feel on the screens, when i came to cheburashka i watched cheburashka, so i caught myself thinking that there is a feeling that you are in the country in which i was born, yes. then until some time in general i lived, and i am in it again, well, that is, on the screen i see what should have been, if there had not been this time without such a time, yes, when we have lost a lot and what we now need to get back, find, restore again, and i have there were the same emotions, in principle i was also touched for this very reason, not just because something like that happened there, but because justice was restored, i would say so, well, and if you remember the film challenge and the reaction to the film challenge, when this is a combination of space, which

we all adore since childhood and are proud of our astronauts, we really knew little about them and unfairly, knew little in the nineties, in the noughties, and we did not root as actively as our parents did, the launch of a rocket, any victories in space, how important it was, this a simple human story:

first of all, it did not cause any delight, it was and was, but rather an interest that is not fake, it causes something new, namely, for example, you see. a surge, well, absolutely incredible of our domestic designers, i feel terribly sorry, again i give an example, like in the cinema of the nineties, that the generation of people who dreamed of making it in this light industry, in clothing, in furniture, they did not have this opportunity, that now there is really a chance, really an opportunity for creativity, really, we

we see this in, well, in stores we see this, i remember that you know, in izhevsk someone told me that, well, someone about a furniture factory, that it’s important, that these big huge stores have left, i won’t advertise them, fortunately they’ve already left, and that we’ll be successful now, and i ask them, i say, well, will your furniture be modern, because the stores with modern stylish design are leaving, who love and want to buy there, he started showing me all these catalogs with such resentment, they say: we have incredibly talented guys, we have everything, give us the opportunity, now look how much... in the design of bright and interesting and building materials and furniture and clothes and cosmetics, i will say absolutely, we have everything there, if we talk about the make-up workshop, really these are just make-up artists, this is a revolution that was made in 2 years by people who understand this and wanted

to take place in what they love and know, and based on there, let's say... lace, their fantastic materials, very bright, interesting, well, you and i saw this at vdnkh, when there was, there were christmas trees from each region, these were just demonstration performances, i know how much work it took the regions to do them, on the one hand, because they had to raise everything, and there were regions that have khakhloma,

for example, well, everything is clear, but there is, well, what will we hang up, well, wait, but we have it. to go on vacation not to your dacha, but to some region of the russian federation, firstly, you want to see something, we always joke that you want to see what god created - this is the ministry of natural resources, and what man created - this is for the ministry culture, these are cultural heritage sites, yes, plus, of course, you want to spend the night comfortably, this is the hotel business for... at least some local tasty products, look how all these areas are developing madly brightly, the fifth at the end, to buy something as a gift as a keepsake for your family and yourself at home, and not just so that the magnet was scary on the refrigerator, yes or you can bring some kind of tasty thing or bring some beautiful thing that you will put as a keepsake, here of course we have an

unplowed field and this is madly bright interesting on in fact, the direction. i liked it and i wanted to live this whole story together with the hero that i see on the screen. the usual eaglets look at all this with incomprehension, why they clap, why it sounds so terrible. then our soloist comes out, who with the breaking voice of a peacock, begins to sing our beautiful works. probably the most pleasant memories are when we went to orlyonok for a whole month, and we all lived as a group in these buildings where children live. why haven't you grown up, we'll smash him like everyone else normal children, i try, now, i 'm making up for it, and oleg's wonderful mother comes up and says: "oleg, he's not afraid of anything, he's such a brave boy, but alena, more than anything in the world, he's afraid of pigeons." and there is competition in the handicap for solo parts. of course, there is always competition, because everyone wants to solo. well, that's what age is, that's what

the whole series is about, actually, the wonderful dalek. "i'm starting, podcast lab, tomorrow on the first, don't tell me only about men, that they fall in love. valentina titova, one of the most beautiful women of the soviet screen, she always gave the impression of a socialite, a woman who is surrounded by the care and love of her famous men, but it turns out that the impression is deceptive, men". always feared me, and my husbands had no influence on me, move away from someone else's husband's wife, how did basov react to your pregnancy, disappeared, who does not know you in the maternity hospital accompanied him? his assistants, everyone pitied me in the maternity hospital, how valentina titova left vladimir basov, and what the director wrote in the statement to the court, filed for alimony, why are you

did not take the children with them, where, just a mother ekhidno, yes, you want to ask me now, where did i put the money? confession of valentina titova, a cuckoo mother or a victim of love, can a beautiful woman or actress be happy at all? no one can stand it when a person hunts only for you. knife in hand. exclusive with dmitry borisov. premiere. on saturday on the first. we continue the special edition of the creative industry podcast. our guest today is olga borisovna lyubimova. and we are talking about the tenth anniversary international cultural forum. i i travel a lot around the regions and i see what you can buy there. i see what you can eat there, and i don't just see it, of course. i see creative industries schools, of which there are already a lot , and i'm sure that they are full of children, and this is exactly what i would like you to explain, why creative industries schools

are needed, i'll tell you, we already have 83 of them, there will be 250, this is the beginning of a long journey, now 9,000 people are studying, and 25,000 people should study according to need, because in fact these are kids who are in senior classes. well, firstly, to be honest, this creativity is generally shown to them at this age simply hormonally, yes, because they want to write poetry, they want to play musical instruments, put together their own band, or what is drawing, design, photography and so on, no one has such an opportunity, yes, it is a very expensive pleasure to have a computer at home, so that you can draw or compose music, so that you have some percentage... parents can afford it, even in cities with a population of over a million, not a very large one, absolutely, plus, of course, he wants there to be good teachers, so that these kids who , well, really want

to self-actualize, have the opportunity to come, we have 51 large federal centers, these are our creative educational universities, and it is so important when, on the basis of these spaces , a place appears where you can come to study, study to be a sound engineer, in my childhood, i was 15 years old, i would have learned that you can go somewhere to go study photography, exposure, right,

set up the light, i didn’t get there, i would have gone crazy from joys along the way, you see, and you really see how the kids study with such pleasure, shoot their first educational films, how intuitively amazing, sometimes they edit materials to this intuitive ability of a modern child. which can be negatively called some kind of clip thinking, in fact, this is really their super ability of these modern children to comprehend this world of creative industries simply at a level of some kind, i'm not even at their fingertips, this is what an adult needs with instruction, it means trying to understand with some modern gadget, and for them it happens intuitively, here you also have a specialist who will give you the opportunity, it is absolutely not necessary for us to have 9,000 photographers in the country. no, this is not for this, firstly, this is for the most-most talented, this is an opportunity to understand that you will never be able to do without this in your life, and for people who just went

there as a club, this is a wonderful pastime at this age, all these groups that are now being enrolled in schools creative industries singers get the opportunity to participate in competitions, send to all possible venues to get noticed and so on, this is also another opportunity, plus the opportunity to express. it is very important that these children live in our schools of creative industries, not in basements, not in entrances, not on the streets, not in attics, do not withdraw into themselves, do not become such wolves, loners, where the world does not accept their creativity, on the contrary, the cat says, come to us, please, create, write, here you are, please, the keyboard, now we will we will teach you, just don't worry, don't be nervous, we are right next door and that's it, look, these are the houses, again, where the cheburashkas are looking for their friends. because these are people inclined to creativity, for whom it is sometimes very difficult to socialize and adapt, this is in fact such a new undertaking for us, which we...

with great trepidation we have a separate such mm summit of schools of creative industries, we gather them once a year, we present the brightest practices, because they are still in the process of birth, put our academic spaces, there are manuals written out sometimes in choreographic schools, 250 years of this manual, you know, how to teach, and there is no need to interfere, if we talk about schools of creative industries, in fact, this is a creative space where they are still in the process of creation. these methods for education of the opportunity to receive this knowledge, but these are the very guys who will make it so that you and i have something to wear, of course, in general, something to eat, and do it with great pleasure, but i really liked the fact that in these schools of creative industries, they communicate, intersect and make a single thing, well, that is, one shoots a film, others write music for it, others think about how to package it all, what kind of poster to draw, and so on, that

's really great. moreover, this will be useful to an economist, this will be useful in life to a lawyer, the ability to use and make presentations, to present your projects and creative thinking in general, we know perfectly well that in any field of activity, a person will need this modern production, because it is still a part of our life, which we cannot cancel, and the fact that you have had such a... the right starter since childhood, that it is not born in some kind of agony, but this is a natural process for you of creation, inventing a project, including in the best sense of the word, self-presentation, the ability to present within 7 minutes to explain to the employer, to any hr, what you can do, why you can be useful to this team of people who are looking for a new person for themselves, this is also inside the school of creative industry

time... thanks to her efforts contribution in general this is a very important award, such an institution has now emerged and exists on a permanent basis, everyone remembers one of the masterpieces of the collection kalyvan vase in armitage, here is a small incredibly beautiful, a copy of this kalyvan vase is transferred to a russian foreign cultural figure, whose contribution to art causes only admiration and... if last

year the first laureates were valery abesalovich gergiev and nacha duata - this is the main choreographer of the mikhailovsky theater, our colleague from spain, this year it was palat belbelyagly, who sang fantastically, absolutely, we cried there, simply incredibly, absolutely, he performed, a famous fantastically , absolutely performer, but also many years ago my colleague the minister of culture, many-many years the ambassador of azerbaijan in wonderful form at the same time, absolutely amazing. and boris yaklevich eifman, this year he also had a premiere, crime, punishment, a big premiere of the eifman ballet at the st. petersburg cultural forum, in general , really, there would not be enough strength in my legs to see all the events, it is very important that there were so many bright events, where everyone could choose their own to their taste, based on what you do in culture, art and what country you represent, that

was very important.

what will be better on the tenth or what will be new there, do you have a view of the future, that's what we, what we will expect from the eleventh, every producer knows that when some large. successful project ends, it is always necessary, and all the nerves and worries and joys pass, of course, with an element of euphoria from the fact that everything took place, of course, the next day , a vertical crease on the forehead is evidence that everyone is already thinking hard about what to do with the eleventh, but in fact there are a lot of plans, and i always think that you just need to take a break for a while. to the entire organizing committee, which i think is now just coming to its senses, exhale, get together further, the main thing is that the eye is burning, and people who are eager to do want to do, we

always have the feeling that there are topics of direction that can only be added, it is very important to us that we receive more and more requests, very bright representatives from a variety of countries. culture, art, who want to join our discussion, so i hope that on the eleventh we will please our guests, and even surprise them. olga borisovna, thank you very much, i am subscribed to your channel, i always watch it with pleasure, not only because they write a lot of interesting things about how culture is developing in our country, but because i think that we have the most beautiful, the most elegant, the most incredibly intelligent.

ceo of the presidential foundation for cultural initiatives and olga borisovna lyubimova, minister of culture of the russian federation. thank you, thank you very much. the parents named the hero of our conversation today aristokl in honor of his paternal grandfather. but either for his broad shoulders and chest, or for his broad forehead, or perhaps for his broad views, he was nicknamed accordingly, from the greek word platos, width, with this name he went down in history.

hello, today we have collected our thoughts about the great ancient greek philosopher plato. hello, dear friends, hello, roman viktorovich svetlov, doctor of philosophy, professor at st. petersburg state university, dmitry vladimirovich bugai, doctor of philosophy, professor at moscow state university. i am vladimir ligoida, we are beginning our conversation. dear colleagues, and you know, i would like to ask you as a warm-up question, about this: which of plato's texts do you personally refer to most often. roman viktorovich, let's start with you, well , to be honest. very honestly, this is our armchair of truth, parmenite, things constantly appear that i want to look at there, and, probably, the most interesting text for working with students, it is very interesting from the point of view of different types of dialectics, dialectics,

why i would say different types, yes, because it is possible to interpret from the position of dialectics itself in the modern sense of the word, from the point of view of skeptical dialectics, everything that is presented in the hypotheses, which makes up the main part of the dialogue poromenite, but i find its introductory part even more interesting. where, in my opinion , socrates is dedicated to philosophy. hmm. but this interest, well, conditioned by teaching, it coincides with your personal interest. now, if there was a personal choice, you would also. yes, i probably would also turn to him, despite the fact that he is being translated by our contemporaries and my idols. well, apparently, we need to wait, and turn to him after some time. i understand. dmitry vladimirovich, and what about you? well, i have a slightly different, as it were, view here, although with parmida, by the way, i will begin. my research activity, i have my first publications on parmenides and i still refer to him, but for me, of course, the central dialogue of plato is the state, because the state is such a quintessence of all social and personal existence of plato, that is

, if we look at plato as a figure who in some sense is the center of ancient intellectual culture, this is of course the state, not because it contains a utopia, not so much for this reason, but how much because the state is a platonic reaction, the reaction of a person who grew up among the aristocracy. athens to the changes that were happening in athenian society, yes, this is such a central work, as a work of social crisis, to which plato gives this answer, which remained in demand one way or another not only by ancient culture, well , let's talk about plato, about the meaning of plato, i will allow myself, perhaps, a slightly hackneyed quote, but it seems to me that it still deserves attention, this, of course, the english... mathematician and philosopher whitehead, who said, the most

plausible general characterization of the european philosophical tradition is that it is a series of footnotes to plato. i will not ask you how much one can agree with whitehead on what, especially since he goes on, as you remember, to explain this in the text and to explain it in different ways. whitehead died in 1947, so he had in mind the... tradition of european philosophy that was familiar to him, almost 100 years have passed since you think, this is his quote, it has become more relevant, has lost its relevance, still, has remained in the area of ​​such a wonderful aphoristic statement, roman viktorovich, well, it is difficult to say for sure, i think, but nevertheless, in those 80-90 years that have passed since his death, yes, several new ones have appeared...

many different options for reading plato in the way we read him before appear very including in the personal sense, yes, i do not want to evaluate from the point of view of truth, i like this more, i like this less i like it, but these are completely different assemblies of plato, which obviously show that...

from the origin to plato, from plato to kant we can distinguish several large periods: and from kant to our time, so to what extent are you ready to agree with such a division? based on what has just been said, well, like any division, any division, in fact, it is always a certain choice, yes, a certain, an arbitrary choice, which is carried out according to certain criteria. again, our culture, here is european, russian culture, which interacts with european culture in one way or another, it kind of comes from those methodological scientific foundations that were set there first of all in the 19th, at the beginning of the 20th century, that is, i mean this historicism, the desire to look at history as a single process, to divide it into

certain parts and so on and so on and so forth, and here there are a lot of questions about these divisions that were asked there in our tradition... danilevsky, in the western tradition, like spengler, this whole direction, but that's what i was saying before, that plato formed the philosophical language, this action, it continues one way or another with modifications through all these periods, that is, it turned out to be such an invariant, as mathematicians say, that is, this action with all the cultural modifications associated with social, religious things, yes, but still this language... continues, but is modified, the first modifier of plato's language was aristotle, then in the greek tradition it is modified there by the neoplatonists, he modified in one way, by christian writers of the early, as it were, early patristics, it is modified in another way, and then this history of modification occurs, i

generally agree with this, of course, if we look at how plato was read, then, probably, with the exception of the period... of the forgotten, well, we don’t forget either, not so much of skepticism, which is also very interesting, often pays a lot of attention to it in our history of plato’s culture, after all, it’s approximately the same, it’s approximately clear in the most general terms, they began to interpret it approximately the same the times of antiochalon and further here is neoplatonism as one of the highest phenomena of the world spirit in general, and one way or another the influence of this reading of plato and the way of using the terminology of the categorical grids that he created, we see ducant, maybe yes... and further than after kant, here everything is absolutely correct, on the other hand, attempts to overcome plato, which regularly arise in the xix, xx century, are interestingly turned inside out by the fact that the management of plato again leads to himself, only with a different sauce, in a different form, in fact he is not like that, it is in vain

that we have been talking about him for 2000 years, in fact he is not like that at all, there is another point that i must say, that this is also largely connected with the fact that his terms, words, the myth of the cave, this too can obviously be viewed in different ways, with your permission i will give you the option that seems interesting to me, firstly, the myth of the cave is a very important place in the dialogue of the state, such a kind of turn occurs, including in the style of presentation, in the way of speaking, which shows the importance of the myth as

stylistic and literary and instrumental element in the texts of plato himself, and secondly, the myth of the cave, as it seems to me, well, of course, not... i would say this myth, but from the outside it expresses modern-siological, epistemological, of course, the myth of the cave unfolds this concept of the four-part line of plato's cognitive and, in general, indicates at its very beginning the state in which, well, actually, for the most part, we all find ourselves, when we not only do not understand

what we see, we do not even see ourselves, and we don't know, yes, that is, conditionally.