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our main competitors sasha, who train in st. petersburg, because right now specifically at the russian level sasha and i have won everything, we didn't win the world championship, we didn't win the olympics, at the russian level, my personal motivation is to be better than specific people that i know, well, let's name the rivals, otherwise we are somehow talking about people in the third person, these are of course world champions, olympic prize winners anastasia mishina. alexander golyamov your confrontation with nastya and sasha season you them you win all the tournaments, the season they win you all the tournaments, do you consider yourself and mishinulyamov the best couples in the world now at the moment? in terms of their performances, presentation of programs, productions, quality of elements - these are the two leading duets in the world, i really think so, what are you, what are you, don't you recognize, a new hero has appeared gorgeous! tall, slender, fit,
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smart, he immediately turned out to be as if he was expected in a movie, good, kind, only proud, there is some kind of calm from him, warmth, this is fatherly, exactly fatherly, so human, theater you understand about us men, here is one thing you don't know, why no stardom, everything is very simple, easy, and i fell in love with him from the first seconds of our communication, well, you say? as a friend, he pulled off such a thing, i should be happy, but i'm afraid, seryoga, i'm really afraid, i said, i'll do everything possible, it's impossible, and i'll become an actor, for the eightieth birthday of alexander mikhailov, i would like to be like him, at his age, on saturday on the first, today the champions are with us european and world championship medalists alexandra baykova and dmitry kozlovsky, come on.
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cherished dream, a gold olympic medal, dima has already said this several times, so you won a gold olympic medal, what's next? god willing, it will be this olympics, it will be in milan, i'll go shopping, have some ice cream, wash it down with the most delicious class, gelato and enjoy life, and globally, i mean globally, what this medal will mean, for me, probably, this is the highest goal in sports that i have achieved, i i will be... as pleased with myself as possible, because up until that moment, i think i will often find fault with myself, and this will already be such a point, even an exclamation mark, which will prompt me and actually prove that i am truly the best, and i have reached the peak, the maximum in this area, i sincerely answer this, i don’t know yet, i can definitely... say that
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for now i don’t have a specific desire, i don’t have a specific aspiration, i don’t see myself in figure skating as a coach after the end of my sports career, let’s let's go back to your olympic experience, once in your life there was an unsuccessful performance at the olympics, i think that it was unsuccessful for you because you were active, winners of the world championship and so on, fourth place at the olympics for us was a failure of the olympic games, it was very sad, it was very sad.
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we go to the olympic games, we find out that for some reason this same support has become the third level, i don't know who to blame in this context, but still, probably, there is the so-called position of the third pair, they arrived we are still the third pair at the olympics, because after the european championship, which preceded the olympic games, we were in third place in the country, and apparently this factor played a role, which nevertheless gave the opportunity - to other people
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to give us such marks, and it was already clear, firstly, you have to understand, and here it is important to say that according to our performances, precisely according to our performances, we took our place, the way we... such a fateful, perhaps, after the world championships in stockholm in 21st year for us it was necessary to change everything in general , perhaps even switch to another coach, at that moment, it was still a year before the olympics, then there was time
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to change everything, just enough time to get used to it, enough time to somehow mobilize, although after that tournament we still changed a lot. in particular, even in my approach, probably, first of all to training, to my condition, both physical, psychological, and some attitude in general to my work, but a big reboot was required, as we now understand, i'll tell you an interesting story: the european championship, we are perfectly prepared, i can clearly see that our training is going well, yes. europeans, short program, we get up to skate, we were the last of the russian duets to perform, i 'm sure, i'm really charged up, we start skating the swan program, everything as we worked on, everything as we rehearsed, with emotion, with passion, the first element, i do a wonderful saikovo, i look, sasha is standing, and out of the corner of my ear, i hear some kind of applause, well, languid, well
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, i think, well, probably people are just, what am i doing, probably one applauded, sasha so, thank you maxim, sasha confidently skates, i think, everything is great, everything is fine, then we do a twist, we do a throw, we do a support, i go to the tracks, i think straight away, come on dima, let out all your emotions, emotions, tracks , i go, we do a spin, i get into the final pose, throw my hand back, i think, how great we are, and sasha at that moment says in my ear, i did a double saikov, go away, my world has collapsed, i just have a failure, i understand that all our competitors skated cleanly, sasha refused with a double salchow, and i i understand everything, why did we perform so brilliantly at the russian championship? we come down to the fact that in fact in a figure skater's career many aspects are decided by some moment, this moment was a turning point, this moment had already begun, that half had begun, which led to fourth place at the olympic games, and the team tournament, like
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the olympic one, affected you, sadly it affected us, or rather, unfortunately, it did not affect us, and apparently, it became very sad for us, and it was a little hard because ...
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they would have dropped to second place, and if they had skated cleanly, they were the only ones who could have competed with suikhan in the short program, the only ones, because they lost 20/0 in the individual event, that is, but these 20 hundredths are this victory in the team for suikhan, they already had an advantage, because we ourselves gave the chinese the advantage of confidence, an advantage in the judging corps over the chinese, that they are already skating the short program cleanly for the second time, let's put more on them, because if they had torasov and morozov met in the short program in the team event, this is the only pair that could win sunhan in the short, that is, not you, nor golyamov, you did not do this during the season and could not, but they beat them and more than once in their careers in the short, so i had, i say, take them in the short, we also beat them in the short, there
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will be no difference, in the free program let either boikov-kozlovsky or mish nagalyamov skate, who a priori perform this program well most often, because taras morozov naturally there is not always a free program. they skated well, but the short programs were always strong, logically, maxim, you reason very well, and we simply proceeded from the logic that the first numbers would skate the short program, as is usually the case, we understood perfectly well that if it was a free program, then it would most likely be... olympic sports, but it was a shame, because of course everyone was preparing for the team tournament in training, and zhenya slovo, and we, and nastya with sasha, until the last we... skated the performances in the hope that after all we will go to the free program, and literally,
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i think, on the day of the free program or the evening before the free program, we were all told that the first numbers who skated the short program would also go to the free program, and for the girls it was a shock, and for the pairs, well, and the boys with dances basically knew this, and they were counting on this, when we talked about what you would change after the olympic games? you said that you could have switched to another coach or somehow radically changed your life, in the end, after the olympic games, you still decided on this step, probably, all this had a cumulative effect, and the fourth place in the olympics - it has already become such, well , a sign that guys, if you want to move somewhere, you really need to radically change your life, and we spent a year in thought, anyway, because after the olympics we... stayed with tamara nikolaevna, and we set up new programs,
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we spent the whole season, spent it well, but inside us there was some kind of dissatisfaction, and we understood that we can do more, and we want more, but here somehow it is not it turns out to be more to show, more to do, wait, you win a whole season of world champions, at that time also olympic champions, bronze, olympic games, anyway after that... there is dissatisfaction, even during the olympic season, we just had an absolute understanding that our desire for some kind of development is not supported, and the best example of this was the channel one cup, which was after the olympics, at the olympic games baikovo-kozlovsky skate with a trann salchow and cascades 322, after 2 month, less, even less than a month and a half or something like that, a month, a month, well let it be a month, voikovo-kozlovsky is going with the trioler 3 cascade. and they skate the free program perfectly. question: why? you will answer
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the question, maybe you made it stable in a month, like, so that sasha would feel confident, no? well, you yourself as a figure skater understand that jumps are not taught in a month. we really wanted to skate with the trioler 3 cascade in the olympic year, but the circumstances turned out so that our idea was not supported, let's say so. to put it mildly, i don't want to leave in some. in some memories of the bad, because after all, speaking of tamara nikolaevna moskvina, there was a lot of good, unfortunately, the end of our work was not the most successful, as it seems to me, which led to our departure, this is already the past, we gained colossal experience, yes, we did not have the olympics and the olympic season did not work out, but the experience that we received is life, just now sasha will probably continue about the season when we won, in any case, this experience was needed in order to just
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understand that everything needs to be changed. and the last season that we spent with tamara nikolaevna, we probably won solely on our characters, because everything was going wrong, we had injuries, and the preparation didn’t work out, and to be honest, we got together exclusively at competitions, simply, probably, thanks to each other, the fact that we believed in each other, and this really drained us, anyway, because when you are incredibly strong in getting ready for the start and you do it literally on your own, it’s very strongly leads to burnout, by the end of the season we understood perfectly well that we would not be able to handle the next one, so we very quickly decided that we had to move on to another coach. we then watched zhenya and vova, how georgievna's team helped them at
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the time and thought that we could approach, ask if such a path of work with us was possible, and we did it, letia georgievna thought for some time, well, our tandem happened already jointly with georgievna's team, with you directly with alexey tikhonov, and we... are grateful that we were accepted at the time and are working now. were your expectations met? having worked in a new city for you in a new club for you with new coaches for more than a year. i can say that, probably, i feel that sasha and i have found our coaches, although the last season was not as successful as the previous one, as the one before last, perhaps in terms of results yes, but specifically in terms of places, if we speak yes, but in terms of the work we have done on ourselves, including in skating and in elements, we see
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the result, and this is the most important thing, it seems to me, that you have become tolerant of each other on the ice. now you work a little differently, i notice that i have become calmer, or something, we have become accustomed to what we should do, how we should work, we have understood the system, so to speak, and we simply try to work within these limits and keep ourselves in hand, when we have already become accustomed to certain loads that we now have in our training plan, then we have lowered the level of stress and adrenaline, now there is an opinion that the system exists more for young athletes, for children, and with adult athletes you need to work a little differently, well, i think that we don’t do anything super outrageous, we work within our strengths, we feel that we can do it, we feel that we can do it, probably, here
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the barrier was mainly psychological, rather than physical, physics allowed us to do it then, it was necessary a little... to break ourselves psychologically, we just didn’t know that we could do it, well, i understand what you ’re talking about, because already with the second pair vtoria georgievna i help etri georgievna with the second pair, your previous predecessors had about the same thing, but they didn’t have any other options, there was a year before the olympiad, and it was either this way or no way, well it worked out, it worked out, so i began to believe in it, i already calmly talk about it when i give some tasks or when i hear. teri georgievna’s tasks, that is, they also shocked me when we just came with vovo from zhenya, with you i already kind of understand that within the limits of human our greenhouses don't have the capacity. we continue our conversation with a wonderful pair on the ice, alexandra baykova and dmitry kozlovsky. moving from st. petersburg to
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moscow, i went through it myself. it was very difficult for me. how was it for you? the first year was difficult, the body. like: i don't want to be here, but you have to, the hardest thing is when i, for example, traveled from home to the rink in st. petersburg, i had aesthetic enjoyment of the surrounding environment, always, nothing stands out from the general plan, you go and your eye is happy, nothing it's annoying, in moscow, there are skyscrapers, there's a church, there's a stalin-era building, there's something else, futurism. er, classicism, i had a bit of a mismatch, now it's somehow calmer, but still, when i return to petersburg, i feel so relaxed, my soul is at ease, i like everything, and the first thing dima and i, for example, feel upon arrival in petersburg, getting off the plane, is the sea air, the move
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felt easier to me, i've always really liked moscow, i feel very comfortable. city, i like its architecture, i like the rhythm of development - of this city, i like the atmosphere, the energy that is present here, plus, in fact, a person often clings and pulls himself out of some such difficult - stories - with new emotions, i had a lot of them in moscow, new coaches, a new skating rink, a new system of life, a new rhythm of life.
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before, i had a real need to go home to be at home, now i feel that i am very comfortable in moscow, doing my job, and once again without much need, just to go, i think, why do i need extra trips, i'd rather stay at home, have a rest in moscow. and what do sasha and dima do on their days off? i'm studying now, i went to smm courses, yeah, i'm trying to develop in general in this regard, to understand what it is, how it... works, because i'm sure that in the future it will be necessary, plus i went to styling courses, all sorts of fashion stories, i'm just interested in it. i like it, in this direction, this year so far is like this, maybe maxim removed you from the fashion verdict language, i just now, maxim, i 'm telling you honestly, i'm sitting here and thinking, somewhere
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one presenter of the fashion verdict got tense, in fact, i even thought about entering the stieglitz academy this summer, then i read what you need to do to enter the master's program there, unfortunately i don't have academic drawing skills and i just realized that for now it's impossible for me, but in the future, maybe someday, i would like to study at this academy, get a higher education as a designer, a constructor, something like that, of course, on the weekends i i study, spend time with friends and try to walk around moscow, discover new places, step away, during the school year, most of the weekends i'm busy with the institute, i have to make up for what i didn't have time to do during the week, but i also get to rest just fine, after all, an athlete has weekends, probably to recover and prepare for a new training week. do you spend your
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weekends together or not? well, mostly no, sometimes we cross paths, but it seems to me that in basically we try to exist separately, at least take a little break from each other, well, that is, you are just friends who find each other in the theater, we are very close.
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pair skating is family life multiplied by two, you see your wife in the morning when you have breakfast, at best, if you do it together, and in the evening when you return from work, and with your partner you fly together on a plane, you live in the same hotel in neighboring rooms, you go to lunch together, to breakfast on dinner, walking and discovering new cities and countries, holding hands, how long do you hold hands with your wife, for example, and how long do you hold hands with your partner, how much is it multiplied for you? for me, it's just life, you are associated with people, with viewers, as lovebirds, such, have you ever wanted to try
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to share yourself with each other, the kozlovsky brand, the baykov brand can exist, i am not at all a supporter of the development of this particular tandem in all directions, sasha and i are different people, we have different interests, we have different opinions, we have different life... that you will be able to realize everything you have planned, your dreams will come true and you will return the olympic gold to russia, i wish you at least, at least to repeat my
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path, but it is better to multiply, this was a podcast free program, my name is maxim tronyakov, our guests were wonderful athletes, honored masters of sports, alexandra boykova and dmitry kozlovsky, root for them this season, watch all the episodes of the podcast free program. website 1tv.ru. this is the podcast easy money, me and its host mikhail khanov. today we are figuring out how to invest in gold, precious metals, jewelry and in general, whether it makes sense to do this right now. and our guest is mikhail kimovich belyaev, phd in economics, expert of the association for the development of financial literacy. hello mikhail. hello. in the twenty-third year, our
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fellow citizens, according to data. bought 95 tons of gold in bars, this is 15 times more than they did in previous years, on average, it is clear that there is some impetus for this process from the ministry of finance, which cancelled vat on this product, let's call it that, but still 15 times more and 95 tons, does this purchase make sense at all? what is your attitude to gold as a financial instrument, what is it in general from your point of view, here i will give another figure, well, for the sake of completeness of the picture, it means, since we mine approximately 300-30 tons of gold per year, it means 1/3 of this entire annual production went into private hands, here that is, this is a large-scale, truly unprecedented volume of purchases and scale, but
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i must tell you that in general... gold, it has such an unsolved property, although five characteristics of gold have been invented, why it is exactly like this, is in such demand, but it has always been valued, well, probably for the last 5,000 years by humanity, as some kind of - such an unshakable asset for all occasions, everyone agreed, you know, like molevich's black square, everyone decided that it was a masterpiece, but although it has a certain quality there, it was forced out of the whole world. goods, it was still forced out to the first place, pushed out, well, i'll tell you by what signs, the first sign is still safety, the second is divisibility without loss of quality, that is, if you divide a ram, let's say, someone will get the head, someone will get the leg, like in cattle tribes, this was also a kind of currency, cattle, yes, but there somehow to divide, and gold, please, divide, portability is also something that could be in a small
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amount. how much gold do you need to buy in order to convey? this, this is a question with preparation, because i would recall about 20 years ago of the present 20th century, when, if you remember, in 2008, when the financial crisis came, and gold, which in the nineties cost 300-400 dollars and rose to 1,950 dollars, i remember then there were conversations that now china will buy everything up, gold will cost 2.5 three and even
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five, and then came...
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then, in any case, it will not fall below a certain barrier, and it will protect itself, well, or from inflation or from something else or something else, 95 tons, which our fellow citizens - what is this, these are bars, these are bars, you know, no, i think these are bars, bars are gold bars, now we are moving to such a practice, gold bars, they are issued in different, so to speak, formats, from 1 g to 1 kg, that is, there are 50 g with everyone there. there are 100 g, so that it is convenient to take to the market in bad times yes it was yes yes take to the market and there it is on the scales it is weighed to sell, so there is such a concept as gold in bars m such, where in its pure form the cost of gold appears, gold there with the least admixture of human labor, that is, gold as if in its substance, yes in its substance, i do not mix here any other, that can increase its value as some kind
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of work as a commodity. namely gold, so there is such a concept for such small investors, these are investment coins, that is, such round coins are minted, that are given. the status of some kind of coin, as a rule, they are entirely made of gold or not, they are entirely made of gold, these coins are entirely made of gold, and as a rule, these are two replicas, one replica - these are the tsar's nikolaev chervonets, the second replica - these are the so-called sowers, which were introduced in the twenties, well, a repeat, a repeat, a repeat, yes, these very sowers, which were issued in the twenties, when we needed...
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the civil war, it seemed to have to be restored, this so-called sower, this was an exact, complete repeat in terms of sample, in terms of weight of this tsar's chervonets, now, excuse me, i'm interrupting, gold jewelry, gold coins, yes, well, and more broadly gold jewelry, they grow in price along with the growth of the price of a troy unit of gold, well, in principle it is growing, but it is not growing so fast, if anyone remembers - such were the fashionable jewelry of the seventies and eighties of the last century with all sorts of artificial sapphires, artificial rubies, so now here it is both inexpensive and not expensive, all these stones , all these things that are massive, they
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are sold at the price of scrap, that is, all this is picked out, and the gold is transported yes, these yes, these they are not worth much, but if you have you have enough money and you have serious expertise. and you buy gold jewelry as jewelry and as a work of art and as those that in 50 years will already become antiques, that's where the price is slightly higher, from a different category, that is, this is already a completely different category, i'm just dividing the categories, that no, you don't need to run straight to the store to buy it all up, let's yes for our audience i'll record this now, that is, again. once there are separate bars, this is gold in its pure form, it grows along with exchange price, let's say, now it costs there 2,300 and something dollars per troy ounce, actually your little ingot, be it five grams or a kilogram,
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also changes in price, and there are separately now we immediately jump over there, so to speak, chain rings, which are simply stupidly melted down when needed, and from where all the aggravating artificial stones are thrown out, but unless it's a diamond. separate and we are already talking about works of art, but then we treat this, it turns out, not as jewelry or drakmetal, but as a work of art made of precious metals, and this is already a separate category, like paintings, like sculptures, as i do not know there subject matter, absolutely right, of course, gold plays its role there, but it is necessary to have a certain expertise, and it is expensive, as an alternative source.
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long-term investments, long-term investments, that is, for a long time , money is invested there, that is, we are talking for well, here it is already a long term, this is already our audience, that if you are planning invest well from the point of view of investments, unfortunately 1 million and 2 million rubles and these are small amounts. but even they can already be used as leverage, as a lever for investing in jewelry, which is of artistic value and has value as a work of art, but you should remember that you
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freeze these amounts de facto, for 3, 5, or even 10 years, and at the same time they do not have the same properties as bonds for coupon payments or bank deposits with annual interest. they only represent your expectation of that, well, experts confirm that one way or another over the course of, say, 5 dash 10 years, it will grow in price. as they say, so in such a simplified form that it is an investment for children, and even better for grandchildren, yeah, that's usually how it is, this is the easy money podcast, its host is mikhail khanov, we continue the conversation about gold, about precious metals, about products made of precious metals, about whether it is worth investing in them right now, and maybe it will happen that suddenly these types of works of art will grow in value price multiples. yes, that happens, yes,
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especially with jewelry, of course, we understand that there is a question of fashion, a question of the prestige of this brand, which, the jewelry house that produces it, but jewelry also has such a fashion and a fashion for, like , manufacturing, for the design itself, for all this, well, you understand that the jewelry market, everything that concerns women, everything there is very mobile , everything is very difficult to predict. i understand that this is an even more long-term and unpredictable type based on certain expectations investments than investments in real estate, yes, in apartments, because here too no one can market before in fact even the market, probably more predictable, absolutely right, by the way here i want to cling to this so to speak, to this thesis and just say about how the price of gold is formed in general, here to the question that gold is always...
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world, it is divided approximately in the following proportions: 50-60% is eaten by the jewelry industry, then 10 to 15%, is distributed between the reserves of the central banks, between aerospace, this electronics, it takes a lot, medicine still takes gold, so it turns out that way 100%. now we are returning to this main thing.
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i want to say about such a not very simple
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predictability of all this, i just do not agree with you here, let's reason, because here is the twentieth year of the pandemic, i remember march very well, when together with all the assets, it fell there almost to 1400 began to grow only when the us president and the federal reserve the system announced that they were waiting for us, well, this was done for the elections years ago. on soft monetary policy, that is, saturating the market with liquidity, and gold tried to play like this, look, i am such a protective asset against inflation, that's when this movement from 1,300 to 1,900 began, then gold rolled back to 1,600 again, yes, when the pandemic passed, now then these fluctuations that are happening now, they were not connected with the events of the twenty-second year, because there is no direct relationship between there even and february...
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the federation is trying to somehow get rid of and shift from yes from government bonds to gold, yes, actually we are observing this.
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some are using their ears and nose, excuse me, well , i'm joking already, of course, this is no longer a serious conversation, here the demand is expanding, of course, what can i say, it is expanding, because as humanity prospers, here we see, gold entered the market, japan entered in its time, that is, americanized, when it became a way of life, this was in the sixties, china is now quite active there acts, well, not only that, in principle, this is the eastern veneration of gold. gold was not always passed by, and what figures can we see, let's put it in a practical plane, in your opinion, yes, this is just an assessment as an expert on the horizon, let's say, i will not even ask only in some forecasts
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there for six months or a year, yes, because once again for the audience i will repeat that investments in gold in any form, in the form of jewelry or a work of art or... insert a cube, if all this gold is collected into one so to speak heap and cast a cube such a golden one, then the edge of this cube will be 22 m, only, only, that is, a six-story building, yes 22 m here, 22 m here and
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here, this is all the gold mined in the world, and this wonderful cube weighs 200,000 tons, wow. it is believed that in the ground there inside there are 53,000 tons left in the crust for mining, for everything else of the cube, yes a quarter of such a cube, this will be the end of it, all that will remain is to catch asteroids, that means in this very sky, now of course the price is getting more expensive, it does not increase not only because demand, but because the mines themselves, where the ores are mined, mined in an increasingly deeper way, are being depleted.

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