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♪ hi, everyone, and welcome to al jazeera, i'm john siegenthaler in new york and here are the headlines. as a father i can't get the image out of my head of a man who held up his dead child, whaling while chaos swirling around him. >> the latest response from the secretary of state to the chemical weapon's attack in syria. in damascus, unidentified sources fire shots at un weapons inspectors. and nearly 4,000 firefighters now battling the rim fire in california. and students return to chicago classrooms as schools
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tighten security and cope with budget cuts. ♪ an inexcusable moral obscenity. the white house says the evidence leaves little doubt that syria used chemical weapons against its own people. the message came hours after unidentified snipers attacked un inspectors in damascus. mike viqueira joining us with more live. >> the language was blunt and the terms were personal. it's apparent that military action against the assad regime is now more a question of when, not if. it was the strongest
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condemnation yet from the administration. >> what we saw in syria last week should shock the conscious of the world. it defies any code of morality. the indiscriminate slaughter of shrivelians, the killing of women and children, and innocent bystanders is immoral. >> president obama met with leaders at the white house to discussion options. now kerry says the syrian regime will pay a price. >> president obama believes there must be accountability for those who would use the world's most heinous weapons against the world's most vulnerable people. >> reporter: what are the options? american boots on the ground already ruled out. a no-fly zone?
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higher risk for allied forces a hard sale for a war-weary mission. cruise missiles. it's now considered the most likely option if there is to be a military response in syria. >> there's no point in just firing a weapon, dropping a bomb to drop a bomb. i think you have to start by building a coalition of the willing around a regional organization. >> reporter: a mission could trigger more problems. >> obviously if you go in and try to secure the weapons themselves, now you are getting into a whole other area of risk involved of what are the potential fallout with some of the proxy players involved around russia just to name two. >> reporter: a final decision is expected in the coming days. >> what about congress?
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some leaders have called for deeper involvement, but today the white house has begun its cam bane to bring congress on board. secretary of state kerry making calls to senior members of the foreign affairs committee. >> mike viqueira at the white house tonight. mike thank you. and now to james bays. what are you hearing there, james? >> here at the united nations, i think there is no chance that there will be agreement to the possibility of military intervention. out there all of this the security council is deeply divided, russia and china on one side, and they are not going to support any military intervention, which means it has to be done without the united nationed consent. before kerry spoke, his
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counterpart to russia spoke. >> translator: we had this moment before in iraq and libya, not a single case of military intervening resulted in things improving and life standards improving or stabilization in place. on the contrary. the region has detail -- destabilize in an unprecedented way. >> you are going to hear straight away russia saying that it was an legal action. but i think we are going to hear the same sort of language that we heard from the secretary of state today that there is a moral violation. >> james what are they saying about the sniper attack on un weapon's inspectors in syria today? >> the un inspectors went out in their convoy, the start of their
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mission after all of the stalling by the syria government, they got down the road to the area where the syrian government control, and the opposition control, and that's when the sniper fired. the un said they couldn't tell which side was responsible. they pulled back for a bit of time and then continued their investigation and collected samples and statements. they took blood samples from some of the bodies, and it's worth i think giving you a big cav vat, the mandate is to determine whether chemical weapons were used. >> all right. james baste at the un thank you. the un convoy came under fire by
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unidentified snipers. and tomorrow they will travel to the rebel-held eastern district of gota, where some of the worst chemical attacks have occurred. joining us now is the former deputy head of the united nations weapons inspection team in iraq. thanks for being with us. >> good to be with you. >> what is your reaction to what we heard from secretary of state kerry today and the impact on the investigation of weapons of mass destruction. >> the inspectors are caught between very powerful parties. sergei is a sharp, shrewd, operator. he spent five years in the security council during the height of the un iraqi crisis. he wants to preserve ambiguity about the responsibility for this.
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he knows the un process and procedures and their presence in syria will deter action in some ways by the united states. the obama administration finds itself in a somewhat similar position to the bush administration in that they have got their military teed up. they think they know what they want to do, but they don't want to be seen as preempting the un process. >> as we heard from the un, they are apparently just trying to determine whether chemical weapons were used not which side used them. >> it having information that is broodly unbiased. as your reporter from the un said, the mandate is not to assign responsibility but to determine for sure that weapons were used. >> why not? >> it has to do with the legal
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underpinnings of their situation at this point. it's not like the case in iraq where there was a resolution passed by the security council. this is driven by a treaty. they are not there to pick sides but determine whether or not chemical weapons have been used. >> scary moments for un inspectors today. as someone who has been in this situation, give me your thought ts today about the sniper attack. >> well, they are in an extremely difficult position. not only between a rock and a hard place on the political side, but they are operating normally in a very difficult and dangerous environment. they are going to be in the presence of places where sarin nerve agent was deployed and in
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an active area. when we were operating in iraq at least the area was under a ceasefire. these guys will be the target of who knows what. there are many people who don't want them to report, the opponents may want the government to look bad, so anybody can take a shot at them. >> when we talk about what the united states might do -- and i know you are not involved in that part of it, but given the choices that they have, whether or not this is a punitive attack if it does come to pass, what about getting rid of the chemical weapons and can you do that with an air strike? >> it is extraordinarily difficult, and if you strike where you think the chemical weapons are, you may be causing a bigger problem. one of the nightmare scenarios
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is that the chemical weapons get disbursed among tall kinds of parties who have many other agendas, including attacking the united states. my guess is they will not strike the chemical weapons facilities but other things. if you blow these things up, you lose all accountability, you won't be able to trace them. >> do you think chemical weapons were used? >> certainly from all of the images, from the reports of the physicians, it looks like a nerve agent was used. are too many people -- the symptoms are classic for a nerve agent, and the images are very, very similar to what we saw in iraq when see saadam used them against the kurds. >> we appreciate you taking the time to talk to us.
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thank you. emergency crews say they are making progress on the rim fire, but slowly. it covers more than 230 square miles. the flames are just a mile from the park's reservoir that provides drinking water for more than 2 million people, including the san francisco area. katherine what is the latest? >> john, it's a scorcher here, and i'm not talk about fire. it's simply hot. and that has created thermal columns of smoke. these are so-called pyro cumulous clouds. and they can make the fire unpredictable. this is a deadly trifecta of
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wind, terrain, and fuel. conditions usually improve after sunset, as the air temperatures cool down, but in this heat that may not have. the fire is similar to the size of chicago. 30 to 40 mile an hour winds are whipping the fire sending embers flying. homeowners watch from a nearby ridge. >> it will get up on top here and make an run into sonora. i'm a little concerned. i'm a little concerned. i have got animals and need to get them out. >> reporter: the fire now only 15% contained is one of the worst in california history. more than 3,000 firefighters are on the ground hoping to save some 4500 homes and businesses.
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inaccessible terrain makes fighting this fire all the more arduous. three dozen ancient sequoia trees are not at immediate rink, but precautions are being taken to save them. despite the fire's immensity, it has not yet threatened major population centers or yosemite national park. still this immense blaze continues to threaten the area's hydro electrical generators which supply power to san francisco. i'm joined by the fire information officer here at the rim fire incident management command. norm, how is it going out there today? >> the crews made good progress on the fire today. yesterday he only got 7% containment. as of this morning we more than doubled that to 15% containment.
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they made good work to the west of us, and they have been working hard to try to button this fire up on the southeast side, protecting the sequoia groves. >> reporter: do you feel like you are gaining or losing ground? >> i'm hearing both. because of these -- if you will pardon the expression swirly fire conditions with the winds swirling around, the fire is constantly changing directions on the ground, so it's hard for the crews to get directly at it. we're making good progress on the indirect attacks, and trying to button and contain this. so far we have only lost 11 homes and 12 outbuildings, and no lives have been lost, and we have only had a few minor injuries. >> reporter: thank goodness for that. we wish you continued success in the coming days.
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thank you. back to you, john. >> all right. katherine thank you. we just have showed you what it looks like on the ground with the smoke. i'm going to take you to space and show you visible satellite of this area. this is normally just during the daytime. we need the sunlight to actually see this. but something very interesting. i'm going to take you over here towards the fires. this is smoke pushing up to the north. so what we are looking at is all of the fire plumes pushing up toward the north. but what you see elsewhere is how dry it is across the region. we have rain across the southeast. so we're going to be washing this area very carefully. we don't think that conditions are going to change any time
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soon. we have this band of rain showers pushing up, but not making it across the region. we may just see the edge coming into play there. over here towards the caribbean and gulf of mexico, the water temperatures are extremely warm. we have 13 people dead or missing because of tropical storm fernando. i'll update you more on this later in the show. >> kevin thank you very much. coming up, diet advice that says don't worry about losing pounds. learn about the success of a new weight program that says you may be better off working to maintain your weight than struggling to lose it. ♪
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♪ as they age, baby boomers in this country are having a difficult time finding care. and according to a new report by aarp, by the year 2030, there will be only four caregivers for each person over the age of 80. researchers are calling it the 2030 problem. andy has more. >> you tell me if i have to push more or less. >> rosa diaz works for the perez family, and her services are invaluable. at the end of the day she goes home and it is left to vance's wife to look after him. it is estimated that more than 30 million women in the u.s. play a similar role. >> to shower him, to brush his
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fair, to feed him. give him the medicine. is he going to go out. she had to drive for him. she had to -- everything. everything. because -- >> reporter: but many here at the bay oak's retirement home don't have anybody to look at them at all. for many in the u.s. who take care of a sick of elderly family member, the experts hold them together. every day here, 10,000 people turn 65. it's what people who work in homes like this call the silver tsunami. katherine has been the president of bay oaks for almost 20 years. she says the lack of planning to
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her is an obvious problem. >> the consequences of this not being addressed is as i said there is going to be an incredible number of people who will be left without services. you can't just spontaneously do that. >> reporter: this report is an early warning to what many see as an impending crisis. populations are aging fast, but in years to come, there may not be enough people to care. all across the country on this monday, students and teachers have been heading back to school. there have been a few issues though. in minnesota students have been sweating it out in sweltering classrooms. 18 schools in one minnesota district have no air conditioning. and a north carolina middle school that was shut down two years ago by a devastating
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tornado reopened today. the twister left the place in ruins. teachers were working out of mobile classrooms during the two-year reconstruction. >> a lot of the kids were not happy with the modular units, and now that we have a gym and stuff like that, we can have dances and clubs and stuff we didn't have before, and different sports activities that will boost morale. and chicago's mayor paised a visit to two public schools. he greeted students and parents on chicago west side. >> first and foremost, i believe for every child to live up to their full potential, every adult must live up to their responsibility, and that means not only their safety to and from school, but also while they
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are in school, they are learning and educating, and we can take certain stock of the fact that last year we had the best graduation rate ever. but we have more work to do. >> chicago started the new school year with 50 fewer schools open. and students must now walk at times through crime-ridden areas to get to their new schools. >> reporter: it looks like a scene out of a war movie. security guards escorting children to school. >> violence has become the norm in chicago. >> reporter: the combatants are often drug-dealing gangs, the victims often innocent bystanders. 15 people were gunned down this weekend. >> something needs to be done.
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they don't have any respect for the kids or the adults now. so i don't know what the solution is, but they need to come up with one. >> reporter: police and firefighters now line the roads in a city-wide show of first. the closure of 50 schools left some children with longer walks through gang territory. this is part of a new safe passage program chicago tested on monday. >> neighborhoods nowadays are bad. >> reporter: a week before schools opened, five people were gunned down in front of this chicago church. all of the high profile security is an international embarrassment. but according to former gang members here, safe passage might just work. >> we know our children needs to go to school, other people's
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children, and so here we are. >> and the people that are shooting at each other, they will respect that. >> yes, they will. >> reporter: john hindren, al jazeera, chicago. michael eaves is here with sports. it's all difficult to hear about these guys that have these injuries that take them out especially this time of year. >> yes. matt harvey could be facing tommy john's surgery after suffering a torn ligament in his elbow. he could be out ten to 12 months if he has to undergo surgery. and james blake has announced
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his retirement. and despite a 43-86 record, the houston astros are on pace to set a new record this season. the astros will turn a $99 million profit in 2013, marking the largest in major league baseball history. that profit is nearly as much as the previous six world series championship teams combined. the astros case it doesn't necessarily pay to win.
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♪ welcome back to al jazeera. i'm john siegenthaler. here is a look at our headlines. the nation's biggest forest fire is now threatening nearly 4500 structures in california. the flames have already destroyed more than 230 square miles. students and teachers have wrapped up their first day back in school in chicago. city officials have closed dozen of schools there. and students are now forced to walk to class through crime-ridden areas. the obama administration is
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calling for a response to the undeniable use of chemical weapon in syria. john kerry said all signs point to the assad regime being responsible. the dow fell more than 60 points, the s&p 500, and nasdaq also fell. a new wave of violence is jeopardizing palestinians and israeli's peace efforts. washington says peace efforts continue and are serious and sustained. sue has more. >> reporter: anger on the streets, an anger that the palestinian authority couldn't ignore. [ gunfire ] >> reporter: members of the
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negotiating team were due to sit down with the israeli counterparts for further peace talks in jerricho. instead the talks were canceled, discussions about finding common ground with the israels ringing hollow there. >> translator: negotiations are a failer. every time the israelis see progress, they fire at people. >> translator: this is the kind of negotiation israel wants. >> reporter: a convoy of israeli border policen entered the camp early in the morning to arrest a suspect. that sparked fighting with the residents. the violence escalated killing three palestinians and injuring over a dozen. they were taken to an hospital where an official said the victims died from gunshot
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wounds. the israeli army said its soldiers felt their lives were in immediate danger, so they opened fire. >> well, this is clearly the use of live ammunition against de e densely populated areas. and this has lead to the tragic murder of palestinians and the wounds of 15 others, six of them critically. >> reporter: the riot lead to the cancellation of two peace talks scheduled for monday. the americans were called on to take quick steps. >> the people at large are angry over the actions that israel is committing, angry by the actions that israel had taken today, and angry by the persistent israel
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policy to undermine any efforts to bring about some sanity into the scene. >> reporter: in spite of a number of announcements of future plans of construction and settlements, and the israeli's refuse to peace efforts, the palestinian team has continued to turn up to the talks, but these three deaths have called for too much. united nations officials say their investigating report that the national security agency hacked into un internal communications. the former nsa contractor edward snowden has provided documents that prove the spying charge. it shows the nsa was secretly monitoring the un's videoconferencing system just last year.
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>> a military will be deciding life behind bars or death sentence for nidal hasan. the sentencing phase is expected to last about two or three days. the jury is hearing impact statements from those affected by the mass killing. president obama has given the nation's highest military honor in a ceremony at the white house. the army staff sergeant carter was awarded the medal of honor. doctors at duke university are experimenting with a new approach to treat overweight patients. they are encouraging them not to loose, just to maintain their weight. they divided nearly 200 obese or
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overweight african american women in two groups. half of the women received the usual weight loss counseling, the other group were put in a program called shape. they were given a ymca membership, and told to eat better. the goal was to cut 200 calories a day, and feel better about their current physique. after a year more than 60% of the shape program had maintained their weight were thinner, compared to 45% of those receiving weight-loss counseling. so we have doctor heybare who joining us from new orleans. welcome. good to see you. >> good to see you, john. >> what do you make of this study? >> i think it's a great first
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step on the road to health, but, you know, the study actually broke the patients into two groups, but some of the things that weren't really mentioned was they had health coaches, free gym memberships. they had tracking weekly from people making sure they were doing okay. so this is the cadillac of a weight loss program, let alone weight maintenance program. i think it shows with the right support you can do anything on the road to weight loss. >> that's true. and african-americans, poor people who don't necessarily have the option to eat fresh food, expensive fresh food as opposed to processed food, does that enter into this or not? >> it totally does. because if you don't know what to do, you don't have the money to buy the fresh food, and you
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don't feel like you can do anything with your situation, why would you think you could start to lose weight and be healthy. that's not even on the top of your list. african american women don't have the same pressure as white women to have a slim physique, because we're very accepting of a more -- value ump wows physique. but what does matter is that if you are overweight, you have an increased risk of obesity -- i mean increased risk of diabetes, and increased risk of hypertension. if you say i won't gain that two to four pounds every year, so you won't gain 50 pounds in a year or so, that's important, but if you will say i won't just gain, but i will lose one pound
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a month. and you will lose 12 pounds in a year, and then you will be better. >> we're also talking about some people who could maintain at a certain level and others who have a serious problem and need to lose weight. >> exactly. the most important point is that if you have the support, you can do it, but without the support, it's very difficult, and maintaining is not really the goal as far as i'm concerned, because we have a lot of nfl teams that were 7-9 last year, and nobody is saying let's maintain this 7-9 and make that the same record as this year. i don't like to be king of the losers. i like to make sure you can get to the point where you actually decrease that risk and maintaining won't just decrease the risk, but what the study does show is that with the right support you can do it, and that's what we're here for as doctors and health coaches to
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support the people trying to make that change. >> that's really good advice. dr. heybear is in new orleans tonight as you can tell by the helmet behind his head. >> what helmet? i don't know what you are talking about. >> very carefully placed helmet. it's great to see you. let's see what is coming up
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sure that stories don't escape them. >> every day a storm of views. how can you fully understand the impact unless you heard angles you hadn't considered. consider this, antonio mora brings you smart conversation that challenges the status quo. stories that matter to you. ♪ the japanese government is promising to take charge of efforts to dismantle and decontaminate severely damaged reactors at the nuclear plant in
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fukushima, but with two and a half years after the disaster, many residents are working on their own solutions to the region's nuclear problems. anita reports. >> reporter: screening fukushima potato's for radiation. these lab technicians work for the former's organization not the government. farmers are fighting science with science. now everyone's harvest gets tested, the crops get certified, and sales are improving. agriculture is a vital part of the region's economy and culture. japan's farmers mostly grow for the domestic market, and japan's people much prefer their own produce. the farmer's union says this year, 99% of crops tested have shown zero extra radiation.
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but that's from land which people are permitted to cultivate. closer to the damaged nuclear plant, the future is darker. farming here won't be possible for decades, but some residents will eventually come back. simply they have no other assets or place to go. this doctor runs a research project calculating how much radiation people in the village have already absorbed. >> we japanese have to live in contamination for how to live with the contamination. >> reporter: but radiation exposure effects people differently. abandoned villages like this, face a fractured future where radiation levels may fall to something that is tolerable for
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older people, but may be too much for younger people -- [ technical difficulties ] >> translator: not at all comfortable with the big shift that entailed. >> the destruction of lives is what is make people sick in fukushima right now. nor than radiation. ♪ and michael eaves returns with sports, and some tough news for one baseball player. >> yeah,et potentially devastating. just six weeks after starring in the all-star game, matt harvey
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was placed on the disabled list. it is an injury that could lead to tommy john's surgery. harvey is one of the leading contenders for the nl cy young award. now if harvey does undergo surgery it would likely take ten to 12 months before he is ready to pitch again. the tennis grand slam getting underway in flushing, new york. and the man who missed last year's tournament with a knee injury, took the court today. he made short work of the american today. he is seeking the 12th finals appearance in the 13 tournaments he has entered this year. on the women's side, venus
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williams also made short work of her first round match today. winning 6-1, 6-2. williams has never lost an opening round match at the u.s. open. with screaming fans and oldout stadiums, soccer dominates the world sports team. but here in the states the game has yet to catch on. but that trend is changing in the pacific north. >> reporter: it is a rowdy scene in the streets of seattle. young and old march to the match. inside the stadium, bedlam. the rivalry has drawn a crowd of
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67,000 plus. it is also the first home start for american clint dempsey a player in his prime lured away from the english league by a $24 million contract. mls teams have just a $3 million yearly salary cap. each team with three exemptions like dempsey. >> they still have a long way to know, and they know it. and they are trying to be disciplined, organized and careful in how they spend money. >> reporter: these fans also helped dempsey make his choice. >> willing able to play the game that you love in such a good market, and have fans sell out the stadium, and getting that european experience, but being able to live in the states,
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that's priceless. >> reporter: soccer may never top the big three, but they are drawing 41,000 a game, and that's a couple thousand more than the new york yankees this season. portland is on a roll too. selling out every league game they have ever played. >> the pacific northwest is truly the epicenter of national soccer. >> reporter: and with portland just a few miles away, it's a greet three-way rivalry. this argentinian has experienced it before. >> i can see the passion and heart that they put in games and everything, and i can compare to here. >> reporter: the rivalries are
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decades old, dating to [ technical difficulties ] a true cater of the love of the game, and the health of soccer in this area. well of course the biggest soccer leagues in the world are in europe, and some of the crowds being seen at the big games here in the states are not far behind some of these major european clubs. today more than 75,000 went to see manchester play chelsea. the opening day of the spanish league brought in 76,870 fans, but the biggest draw was in germany. joining us now from seattle is the voice of the sounders, ross fletcher. first of all, ross, we appreciate the time tonight.
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>> good to be with you. >> what is it about seattle and maybe more specifically that entire area from vancouver down to portland that makes soccer such a huge draw in the region? >> it has had a lot of history as that report suggested from back in the mid-'70s. but major league soccer in america has brought together his rivalries, and for the past four or five years, they have had sell-out games with that hot bed of an atmosphere. it's feisty. it's passionate. it really is bubbling between portland, seattle and vancouver. and that creates great atmosphere. >> clint demsy coming back for his second stint with the united states' top soccer
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league. as far as the overall soccer effect in the states will be played out, what effect do you think it will have, having clint dempsey back here in the states playing on one of the top teams in the mls? >> i think it's really important. for major league soccer it is a signature moment for them, to have one of the greatest histories in his prime coming back to play. it sends a message to other top players that may look at america no longer as a retirement home for them. this says soccer in america is viable. you can play in front of very good crowds, and clint dempsey wanting to come back, instead of playing in the english premier league sends a message that he is serious about coming home
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because the league is serious about getting bigger and better. >> obviously the proximity of those three teams really helps it in terms of fans getting to games. you have a similar situation in los angeles with two teams there. and we have two teams in new york. but as far as the rest of the country is concerned what does it draw when a team in chicago plays dallas or another team around the u.s.? >> that's a really good question. if it's not a local rivalry, it's all about the quality of the product, and having the ability to sign designated players is something that fans want to be able to see. they want to see the best players. real salt lake have players from all over the world, but they have built a really good brand of exciting soccer themselves. and soccer specific stadiums
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have been a big draw for fans. they have a place that they can call their own. and in the past five years or so, major league soccer has made a big push in investing in stadiums, and infrastructure, to give fans a place that they can call home, come there in big numbers, and feel a real part of something. so it's about the match-day experience as well as the quality of the product on the field, and major league soccer is making big strides in that regard, and that's why average attendance is around 19,000 in the last year. >> one issue that soccer has in the states is quite frankly our best athletes don't play soccer. they play football, baseball, and basketball. those sports pay more and have way more attention. what do you think it will take for stork climb a couple of the
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rungs on that sports ladder here in the united states? >> i think the biggest thing will be success of the men's national team for the world cup. national team games draw millions and millions of fan watching on tv. and every sports fan wants to see their team be successful. and the u.s. is steadily moving up the fifa records. a survey said amongst 12 to 18 year olds, soccer is the second-most watched sport in that demographic. millions and millions have played at a recreational level, but it's about giving them that product in the country to watch at home, and say, yes, i want to become a soccer player, and emulate people like clint
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dempsey. >> ross thanks so much for the perspective and incite. huge crowds in see at and obviously mls hopes that will spread across the country. >> it could be a break-through moment for soccer, and it's amazing it goes on in the northwest. i almost think there's something else going on there. but who knows. >> it is special. >> stay with us, kevin corriveau has weather right after this. ç]
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♪ hello again and welcome back. we have seen quiet tropics for the month of august, actually only one storm, that was ferdinand. we saw the storm make land here, and it was deadly. now as we go to the next couple of weeks, the potential is going to be higher because of the very warm temperatures in the gulf of mexico as well as caribbean.
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right now we're talking about 86 degrees, that is prime fuel for the tropics. so we'll be watching out here in the eastern part of the landic -- atlantic, all of these waves coming in from africa. in september we do think we're going to be seeing a fairly active season. now is it too early to talk about labor day weekend? i don't think so, because what is going to be happening is very warm temperatures. we expect a heat wave in many locations across the central united states. look at the temperatures we're looking to see through the rest of the week in dallas. as we begin the weekend it is still going to be the hundreds. that's a look at your national weather. have a great night. your headlines are up next.
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[♪ music ] >> welcome to al jazeera. here are the headlines. u.n. inspectors in syria inspect the site of the recent chemical attack. they're looking at exactly what took place in the attack in damascus. the obama administration in response calling it an u undeniable attack of memory weapons. the nation he is biggest forest fire threatening 4500 structures as well as a portion of the yosemite national park. the flames have
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