and it's a payoff. >> all right, frasier and james, thank you so much for sharing your memories of your son who died 12 years ago, and we know anniversaries are note easy, and we appreciate you being a part of our programming. >> all right. the anniversary is just here, but we have our loved ones every minute, every hour, every second. it is not an -- and this is his deprave site, i come here because this is where my son was buried. i don't have any other place to do. i can't go to a cemetery, i can't go to any place like other people do. this is where i come to. this is where he was buried. and this is where i come to. and i thank you so much for having me on. >> we appreciate you sharing your thoughts. good luck to you, pack to you in the studio. >> thank you very much. and we want to update our audience that is joining us now, it is 9:00 eastern time, just moments ago, at exactly 8:46 the observances of september 11th began,

this moment of silence on the lawn of the white house, the president there with the first lady michelle obama, vice president joe biden and his wife dr. jill biden, you are in washington you remember that day very well, it was a day that republicans and democrats but instead considered they wants to be americaned how much has changed since then asly warn you that we have two minutes to go before we reach our next moment of silence. for our part here, knives the capitol that day. in the midth of all the chaos and confusion. of course as everybody remembers it took time for it to sink in.

>> and mike as we continue to listen to the names being read, they will read until all of the

names have been completed, i want to take you back to that day, because you are right, on that day, washington was under siege, people forget that, and there were also reports of a bomb going off at the treasury department and bombs going off around washington, it was quite the chaotic scene. >> it was utter chaos. people were listening to the police radios, and even the policemen could not control the chaos. we heard reports that the state department had been bombed. obviously that didn't happen. we heard reports that the national mall was on fire. and of course there was the chaos at the capitol and here at the white house as people ran for their lives, and if you have ever seen terror in someone's face you saw it on that day. i was trying to get information and the speaker at that time came out, and i said what is

going on? and he said we're evacuating. he went to the floor to make an announcement, but things had gotten so out of hand, i remember the capitol police agents that protect the speaker grabbed him by the arm physically, and physically removed him to a safe location in the capitol. and dell after the course of that chaotic day, and you could see the smoke billowing to the south of the capitol, 187 people died there, the pentagon, largely, that one section of destroyed, the president will head down there today for his remembrance at 9:46 or 9:45. later in the day pentagon employees will join the

president and wragather there a well. utter chaos, culminating, dell, as you were talking about a moment ago, in the midst of all of the bipartisanship and vitriol in washington much like it is today. >> we will be on the air throughout the morning bringing you this the 12th anniversary of the september 11th attacks. we will be looking back, forward, and looking at the current situation as it exists in syria, where the united states is once again considering getting involved in another thornny issue in the middle east. joining us now live from shanksville is our own john

terret, john what are they thinking there now? >> it is certainly a somber day in the u.s. and a somber day here as well. and the families are gathering behind me for their own remembrance ceremony. they will mark pretty much to the minute the moment of impact. now this is an emotional day for the families of flight 93, but yesterday was emotional as well. we followed some of them around as they went to the last meeting ever of the federal advisory commission, those commissioners

have now become ordinary citizens again, and took part in a ground-breaking ceremony here. very emotional where the families just sat in the lights of candles for three hours with their own thoughts and memories in front of the hallowed ground. let's catch up with some of the people involved in yesterday's events, as they went to that last meeting. >> reporter: gordon felt is one victims, he lost his brother. >> i miss my brother, and -- i -- i miss the fact that his children have grown up without a dad, and i hope that

this memorial can serve to educate people about the human loss. >> reporter: there already exists a memorial plaza, wall of names, memorial groves and field of honor. the new plans include a visitor's senator, and it will be located on that hill overlooking the flight 93 crash site. the flight 93 federal advisory commission is being round up. the friends will raise funds from here on in. >> ten years was not a long time at all to develop the memorial to the extent we have from a site that had serious environmental problems, no sewage, water, roads, design. it took the family members a year to even come together and start talking about ideas for this memorial. >> reporter: and this is the moment the families have been

waiting for, a ground-breaking ceremony. everyone joined in, lead by the interior secretary, sally july. for gordon all of this is just the beginning. >> the friends group is the support group that will continue to raise funds to help support ongoing operational needs for the mark. >> reporter: so far 190,000 visitors have some to shanksville, 2 million since 2001. as the extrordanaire story of flight 93 goes on being told. >> john as we watch the situation there in shanksville, it is important to remind the public that they had a head's up. they realized that something has terribly gone wrong because they were in cell phone conversations with their loved ones, and that was what lead to them fighting

back in those iconic words, "let's roll." >> it is an extraordinary story. the flight was delayed for 40 minutes, so it took off in the end at 8:42, not 8:00 as it had been expected to do. what happened next, we don't quite know. because the hijackers took a full 46 minutes before they took control of the plane. the point about that is at the time they did take over the aircraft, the passengers were able to work out, by using the telephones in the backs of their seats, and their cell phones when they were closer to the ground, to hear from family and friends that two other planes had gone into the world trade

center and one into the pentagon. and so they had meeting -- they stormed into the cabin. we think they got into the cabin, and of course they were unsuccessful in gaining control of the aircraft, but the point is, that had they not done that, and the reason we think of them is heros is that that plane was headed to washington, d.c., and it is widely thought that they saved hundreds of peoples of lives, because that plane was going either to the capitol or the white house. dell? >> i remember that day in fact wondering whether or not that plane was coming towards the white house and the capitol and then learning it had indeed gone down in shanksville, pennsylvania. we continue our coverage of the september 11th attacks then and now 12 years later, as we go to break, we remember those who lost their lives on that day.

♪ >> when 9/11 happened i just found out i was pregnant with my first child. and that morning when all of that stuff happened, my life did change, and i was very scarred, and it was extremely heart wrenching. it was like nothing i ever felt in my soul. >> that day, it was so solemn, it was frightening, it was frustrating because my husband was at work, and when my friend called me -- fortunately i was home that day, my friend called me and said put my tv on. and i sat then and froze. >> one of those days you will never forget. i remember sitting on my couch. it was a plaid couch. you see the other plane hit, and i'm angry still. ♪ ç]

[ bell chimes ] >> our live coverage, looking

back at september 11th, 2001. we'll focus on this story, taking you around the world to tell you what the situation was overseas, what the situation was abroad, and what the situation was from a personal level from the al jazeera correspondents who witnessed many of the stories that we are now talk about firsthand. joining me in studio right now is james troth, and sarah maller, she is a research fellow who focuses on diplomacy and terror. you said if not for this coverage, you would be going about your business as normal on a day like today. it is important that we do look back on days like today the way we are doing it right now, so the foreign policy debate is

framed the way it should be, and in this case it is syria. >> yeah, i was thinking about a hundred years ago when woodrow wilson was trying to convince the american people to get involved in the war across the ocean. it's very easy to think we can live on our own, and that leads to the streak of isolationism in this country. 9/11 was the most dreadful possible reminder that that is not the case. it's that the fact that we are so vulnerable in that way means we have to engage in the world. we can't simply be defensive and wait to be struck. we have to be involved. >> they say unless we heed history's warnings, we are

doomed to repeat them over and over again. are we looking back at a woodrow wilson america? are we becoming more isolationist, or are we looking at an america that says we have to get involved even if it is messy like it is in syria. and this is the president on his way to the pentagon. there will be a private ceremony there, and it will not be televised. but is the united states becoming more isolationist. >> i think when people don't feel threatened by an overwhelming, they withdraw. the 9/11 threat of the enemy has reseeded. and that's good because the united states has been very effective in preventing another attack. there is anger at president

obama, and anger at the failing economy, so all of these things produce a sense that the world beyond our borders is just bad. and i can't help feeling in the syria debate, that it's just a deeper sense of a fear and disgust towards the world. we want it to go away. that's not going to go away. >> miss maller somebody asked me one time is the united states really not liked or do they have bad pr. we go back to 9/11 when the world was behind the united states and then there was iraq. whenever there is an earthquake in haty, it is the united states that responds first -- [ technical difficulties ] we were attacked on september 11th. >> yeah, and i think you raised

a really good point. and when we talk about u.s. involvement overseas we frame it in terms of the military engage. . but engagement is also about humanitarian efforts and u.s. diplomacy, and if you look back at 9/11, you could draw the conclusion that the anti-american feelings that p precipitat precipitated, were also because we shut down in afghanistan when the taliban was active there. so it also our failure to engage diplomatically. so you can make the argument both ways, and i think that's important when you look at issues like engaging with iran. this is a chance to engage diplomat diplomatically.

>> but how do you do that? for the first time in 150 years the british parliament refuses to go along with the united states. the russians have a veto on the united nations national security council as does china. congress is more polarizing ever. how do you get something done, period? >> i think one of the difficulties and challenges now is the real time diplomacy, i think in some ways the transparency is making it more difficult for the administration to engage in diplomacy. >> your fellow guest has a look on his face like he disagrees. >> no, i'm just thinking about, obama has himself into this hopeless corner -- >> did he get himself in the hopeless corner or is it politics that has become so special interest driven that nothing can get done because if

you do something on this side, you irritate this group of people that makes money? >> i think that's an overwhelming issue in terms of domestic policy. but foreign policy, i think obama has been so wary of testing the american people on foreign policy issues, and thus an extremely hands off theory towards syria, because he knows the american people don't have an appetite for this, and then he comes along after two years of none involvement and says now it is different. we have to get involved. it is not surprising that the american people are saying why? so obama is suffering from his disengagement now that he is trying to get them engaged. >> the iraq issue going into

iraq was all about whether they have the wmd, and the parallels and the wmd aspect are really hurting him, because people don't trust what the administration are telling them. we saw this last week regarding the syrian attack. it is being viewed through the iraq colin powell hearings. >> david shuster i know you are listening to this conversation, and you have spent decades in washington, and are dying to weigh in on this conversation, and mike viqueira at the white house. i'm going to follow up, david shuster by going to you. >> reporter: look, i mean the policy debates have been going on for sometime, and i suppose you could argue that president obama is the victim of his

predecessor, and how war wary the nation is because of the war with iraq, something that had nothing to do with this day or 9/11. and when you talk to administration officials they get it. they understand why the american people are tired and wary, the way they have been conditioned to a certain extent not to necessarily believe the government intelligence that is presented, ever since the bush administration presented false intelligence, so they get it. the challenge is for the obama white house to acknowledge that, but also try to make a clear and convincing case as to why syria is significant and worthy of limited air strikes. and you heard the president talk about that and chemical weapon are simply a strategy to kill civilians, so the white house

gets it, the challenge is of course they are in a very sceptical environment, and we have heard from several democrats and republicans who have heard the case individually from president obama and have come abay unimpressed because they say they don't understand what the initiative is still. what the military strike would accomplish, a number of lawmakers are just not convinced. >> mike viqueira as we look at the images coming in from the pentagon, that is where the president is laying a wreath there in honor of those who died -- we have lost that shot. mike we'll come to you though. you realize if anything is as thornny as the middle east, it's politics in washington. >> after 9/11 we had this push to enact the patriot act, and

that was a highly emotional debate. this after all was the act that not only allowed for the practices now -- i guess i'll stop now, dell. ♪ >> mike finish your comments,

briefly. >> yeah, dell, i'm sorry. it's hard not to get emotional. the push for the patriot act a very emotional debate, obviously. there were families pushing congress to move forward, to straighten out the mess that had become the intelligence community, the stove piping, the rivalries, the inability to share intelligence information that today still plagues the intelligence community despite the fact that the director of national intelligence, that office was created as a result of the patriot act. many of the laws and provisions that have become so controversial now, but to take this back even further and to exco what david was saying and bring it to the future, first of all given the historical anssi

-- anticedants. >> please direct your attention to the memorial -- >> continue because as you know in washington if anything happens quickly, it has not hand at all. >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, the national anthem of the united states performed by the army brass quintet. ♪

>> mike even as i was telling do you pause, i was reminded that the events at the pentagon are run by the military district of washington, and they have perhaps the most precise stopwatch aside from the atomic

clock. [ laughter ] >> run, run out of fort meyer just across the river here, the army guard there. the marines are part of that barracks, you know it well, dell, posted here at the white house on a daily basis. one of the special things about living here in the district of maryland and virginia is to see them in action, and what we're witnessing on days like today. dell, i was talking a little bit about the historical anti-see dents. the role of the military is an on going question in history. and in particular in the last 20 years since the end of the cold war, struggling to find a role, and these debates are nothing new in american society. i think what is new is the fact that president obama has chosen to break with recent precedent

and go to congress even though he insists he has the ability to act without their approval, and many of his predecessors have done so on many occasions. i guess that is an upshot of the war wary america. americans are simply not interested in that. but, again, this is not a new sort of idea, and we were talking about world war i and we re -- reluctance there, and world war ii as well, this is something that is not new. and when you apply it to the present day situation, it makes it more difficult to understand why the president ten days ago surprised everyone in the rose garden and decided that he was going to go to congress for authorization. >> mike we're going to pause

because this is the moment of silence from the pentagon. >> okay. >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey. >> and mike, one of the things i want you to comment on as we prepare to listen to the secretary of defense, chuck hagel who has been a very active player in the leadup to the situation in afghanistan -- excuse me -- in the situation in syria, is this issue of whether or not history allows a president to reset. and you remember the build up to the war in iraq. there were the weapons inspectors who were overseas that said they needed more time, and yet, we were hearing all of

the talk about shock and awe, and we would be greeted as liberators in iraq, and that war began, and history has weighed in on whether that was a good thing or a bad thing. it appears that the white house has waited for diplomacy for the debate to take place and congress to get involved. is that a good thing or a bad thing? >> well, i'm hesitant to make a judge inspect that regard, dell, standing here in my role. but obviously the president has -- has said -- to use a phrase -- wrapped himself in the constitution. he does want to involve congress. after all they are representatives of the people. having said that, as we were discussing, when you go back to recent history, kosovo, perhaps the most relevant situation here, even without authorization

from both houses, bill clinton got involved in kosovo. also in the clinton administration, of course, we saw the attacks in realation for the assassination attempts on gorge bush 41, and after the attacks on darsa listen-only mode -- darsalon and kenya. that was almost a forgone conclusion that the president would have gotten authority, but he decided to act unilaterally. the president it must be said in laying down the red line and talking about a core national city, in laying out the indictment that secretary kerry and the president have put forward and referred to time and time again, in addressing the

nation, i think there's a perception that the build-up and the follow-through have not meshed. so there is some confusion on the part of the american publish, as well as war wariness. >> mike viqueira thank you very much. david shuster at the world trade center site. the question before us is whether or not a president can reset? whether or not a president can lead us to the brink of a strike against syria, and then at the last minute simply decide to reset and wait. >> look, politically that may be the best outcome for him, as opposed to going to congress and suffering a humiliating defeat, and that's of course why i think the white house is somewhat excited about the prospects of russia dangling an escape hatch. but to take the present debate

over syria and to connect it with this particular day, 9/11, the 12th anniversary, never mind president bush hopscotching around the country, but one of the images was then mayor giuliani. everybody asking him what is going on. he is not true, but he is trying to get people to help with the evacuation of manhattan. he remains a very beloved figure here in new york. and a short time ago our producer caught up with rudy giuliani and asked him about the president's speech last night. watch. >> the first place i got out of my car was one block away, and the first sight i saw were people being hit by debris and being killed.

that memory never leaves you. and you convert it to we have to remain vigilant. before 9/11 i don't think we were as vigilant as we should be. after 9/11, president bush put us on offense and we have got to remain that way. >> david shuster what he was talking to is what some refer to as national security inc. i'm going to ask you to answer that question on the backside, but right now we're going to go back to the pentagon where the president has just stepped to the mic. >> good morning. from scripture we learn of the miracle of restoration. you who have made me see many

troubles and calamities will revive me again. [ technical difficulties ] you will bring me up again. you will increase my greatness, and comfort me again. secretary hagel, general dempsey, members of our armed forces, and most of all the survivors that bear the wounds of that day and the families of those we lost, it is an honor to be with you here again, to remember the tragedy of 12 septembers ago, to honor the greatness of all who responded, and to stand with those who still grieve, and to provide them some measure of comfort once more. together we pause, and we give humble thanks, as families and

as a nation for the strength and the grace that despair has brought us up again, and has given us strength to keep [ technical difficulties ] pray for the memory of all of those taken from us, nearly 3,000 innocent souls. our hearts still ache for the futures snatched away. the lives, the parents who would have known the joys of being grandpare grandparents -- [ technical difficulties ] who would have grown, maybe married and been blessed with children of their own, and those beautiful boys and girls who today would have been teenagers and young men and women looking ahead, imagining the mark they

would make on the world. they left this earth. they slipped from our grasp, but it was written what the heart has once owned and had it shall never lose. what your families lost in the temple in the hear and now is now eternal. the pride that you carry in your hearts, the love that will never die. your loved ones ever lasting place in america's heart. we pray for your, their families, and in the quiet moments we have spent together, and from the stories that you have shared, i am amazed at the will you have summoned in your lives and to carry on and live and love and laugh again. even more than memorials of stone and water, your lives are

the greatest tribute to those that we lost, for their legacy -- [ technical difficulties ] -- when you toss your hair just like her, when you foster scholarships and service projects that bear the name of those we lost and make a better world. when you join the fire house or put on a uniform, or devote yourself to a cause greater than yourself, just like they said, that's a testimony to them. and you have taught us all there's no trouble we can't endure, and no calamity we cannot overcome. we step forward in those years of war, diplomats who serve in dangerous posts, intelligence officials who protect us every

day, and people in uniform who defend this country that we love, today we remember not only those who died, but a solemn tribute -- [ technical difficulties ] >> we apologize for the difficulties we are having. apologies for the pool feed that is coming out of washington that appears to have disappeared. that is not the fault of al jazeera, in fact everybody seems to be having the same problem right now. we're go to take a break, and then we'll take you around the world and talk about september 11th, '12 years later from a global perspective. but as we go to break, let's sin to the voices on that day on september 11th. >> for all of us who lived through it and were glued to our television sets that day, were just so profoundly moved by what

was happening and felt so vulnerable and victimized at the end of it. and i think that that's what we'll never forget. >> i remember coming in the office, and all i remember is how lucky i was to be alive. that could have been me, so it just felt like the reaper. >> hopefully people won't forget, and it still kind of keeps us together as a country and one nation, you know? ♪

>> our continuing coverage of september 11th then and now, 12 years later after the attacks on

the world trade center site, the pentagon and shanksville, pennsylvania continue at this hour, as we focus on how that day changed the u.s. and changed the world. you are looking at a ceremony that is just now wrapping up at the pentagon. where president obama addressed the crowd, and we heard from chuck hagel and general dempsey. but we also are focusing on not only how this effected the united states but how it effected the world. you were in cairo on this day, tell us about your memories from that day 12 years ago. >> well, i do remember that i received a phone call saying that a plane had crashed into the world trade center, and this was suspected to be a terrorist attack. and just very quickly after that, the u.s. had immediately

revealed the names of the aledged suspects at the time. and in egypt there was a huge sense of disbelief, you know, the leader of the 19 hijackers was an egyptian, and immediately headed to his home there where his father was still in disbelief, saying this was a conspiracy, there is no way this could have happened and certainly his son could have done that. and then when the news sort of sank in, i think people were worried. we were wondering what was going to happen next. when the link was made be osama bin laden, you had that sense of relief that maybe the focus of the u.s. would be in afghanistan only. so you did have that sense of re leaf, but certainly a lot of disbelief, and really cairo which is this big vibrant city was quite empty that day, you

had everyone -- like everywhere else in the world that was glued to the tv screens, trying to figure out what happened. >> then we fast forward to 2011, in benghazi, libya, you were among the first journalist to arrive on the scene. what happened to change the things they were in 2001 and the way they were in 2011? >> i think this -- the incident in benghazi was shocking in many ways to libbians. it was happening to a man, chris stevens who was very highly regarded in libya. he was also credited really by bringing about this freedom for the libbian people. so certainly you had that sense of disbelief of sadness, but i think you had a very different reaction in the sense that very

quickly it appeared that this was not a mass protest that had gone wrong. at the same time you had in egypt the protest against the movie "innocence of muslims," it was very clear and the acting president in libya at the time had made it very clear to al jazeera that this was a terrorist attack. you had a very different popular reaction. you had anger among the people, say were saying we don't want to live with terrorists and in this insecurity, and very quickly the people of benghazi had gone down to protest the attack. so it was a very, very different reaction. even though people were saying since 9/11, it has come always closer to home, and you have the sense at the moment that it will

continue. yesterday i was chatting with some people and say were saying tomorrow is september 11th, what will happen? will there be another attack in the middle east? so certainly you have apprehension every year when that day comes. >> we are seeing images behind you, if you could describe what it is that we are looking at, and why this is so different than the images we have seen so many times, usually of car bombs going off in a cafe. >> we are here in the north of the iraq of the kurdistan regional government. behind me is one of the mane squares of the city. kurds are probably the people who have benefited more from what happened in this region

since september 11th. they certainly have benefited the most from the us-lead invasion. they organized themselves, built a very thriving economy. this city is booming. a few years back, curds would tell you, we want this to look like dubai. so this is probably the one success story in this region -- the success story that you can actually feel and live in this region, i would say, and certainly completely different scenario than what is happening in the rest of this country. >> thank you very much. we want to turn now to our john terant who is in shanksville, pennsylvania. at exactly 9:59 we will observe

our next moment of silence. that is nine minutes from now. john as you listen to this debate, is there a sense from where you stand that the united states understands the arab world any more than the arab world understands the united states? >> well, i think from talking to members of the families of flight 93 who are now gathered behind us here at the plaza at shankville, pennsylvania where the 757 came down, i think the feeling is that the answer to that question is no, not really. and one of the differences that marks the families of flight 93 out from the families of the other aircraft that went into the world trade center and also the pentagon is that here they do feel just a little bit like the poor relation in the sense that everybody remembers the

world trade center and the pentagon, and quite rightly so, and then they remember that a plane went into a field in shanksville, and so they are determined to overcome that. and what they have been doing for the last 12 years, and particularly in the last 10 years, is to raise funds, and they completed that this year, to build a visitor center and a learning sen ter. the learning center is key because the familiar list want to make sure that not only do people come from all over the world, to learn what happened on flight 93, and find out why it happened, and try to ask some difficult questions, so that's the point of the learning center and visitor's center. and although the families are very sad at the moment, you can see them over my shoulder, building up for that awful hour,

but they are looking forward to 2015 when the centers open and they can start to address publicly just that question that you were asking, dell. >> we're going to go to our in-studio guest, tara maller, you have been listening to the situation from iraq, and in shanksville, i guess so much as changed and yet nothing has changed. >> absolutely. there are so many parallels today, but there are also a lot of differences. we have had a prolive nation of the intelligence community, the way the security establishment works after 9/11. we have had changes in terms of public scrutiny, and you see that today in terms of the benghazi attacks a year ago, and what is going on right now with syria and the chemical weapons intelligence.

but you also see it in terms of the cyber aspect, which was not really a large, brood public discussion at the time. very few people were aware of cyber security issues. >> and we should remind our audience that it is your specialty the issue of diplomacy and terrorism. here we are 12 years later, and some would argue we will finally having the debate that we should have had 12 years ago on september 11th in terms of what do we do in terms of drawing the line between personal privacy and security. >> yeah, since 9/11, i don't think it's fair to say we haven't made improvements, the state department alone, the strategic dialogues we have had with countries in the middle east, so i think there has been a lot that has changed since

9/11. and i think, you know, we still have obviously have a long ways to go, but one of the things that is important goes to state department funding as well as these sorts of programs and initiatives in terms of diplomacy, a lot of people have called for a shut down, and i think it's important that we continue to fund our embassies overseas. >> one of the situations that occurred in the days and months after september 11th, was a call by the fbi for people of middle eastern decent to voluntarily submit to questioning. a was one of the things that seemed to outrage that particular community, saying that they did not feel as if they were being treated as americans, but instead different americans. we asked muslim americans today how they feel?

>> we were in class at the time, and once we saw it on the news, they just kind of sent everybody home, and thinking back it was a tragedy as well, and, you know, they changed security precautions, and to what end? >> to blame the middle east, the entire middle east. it was a small group of people that decided to do this, radicals. and we have radicals in every culture. that's my personal opinion. am i upset right now? of course. >> we have to be careful, when they stop me, the cops, as soon as they see my name, they say oh. i say look, i'm an american citizen, and i'm muslim. and there are millions and millions of muslims who work in the city hall and the police department. and they are citizens.

>> why is it that 12 years after september 11th, we're still hearing those comments? >> i think when these sorts of things happen, people make generalizations. it's problematic, and it's something the united states needs to be better at -- >> is it better at or even try? i remember when president obama went to egypt, i believe, and addressed the population there. he was viewed as an apologist, is it that america needs to do something or simply needs to start something. >> i think it is both. i think we have seen rhetoric go beyond some of the action. so we have seen a lot of rhetoric, but not necessarily the concrete steps to back it up. i think this is an area where the administration really needs to push heard on, especially in the middle east. >> as i watch the president greet the crowd that is gathered

at the pentagon, i was struck by something that hand about two weeks ago, the cia admitting for the first time that it was behind the coup in iran. the iranians have known that for years. but the cia publicly admitted it, saying, yes, we did instigate that coup. is it that the government is finally coming clean or the public does not want to hear anything the u.s. did that may not have been kosher so-so speak. >> i think sometimes it matakes time for information to come back. but this apology if you will, public recognition to open the door to more diplomacy with iran, and the iranian president

has also been making statements that have not been in line with previous presidents. >> we are going to pause in >> david shuster as we here the names being read,