[♪ music ] >> pope francis issues a surprising warning.

the holy father calls for more inclusion offering a change from its message from centuries past. consider this, are these statements by pope francis widening the church's flock or possibly alienating conservative catholics, . are bullying programs increasing the behavior they're trying to stop. the emmy awards with cable productions dominating again. hello, welcome to "consider this." pope francis warned that the church could fall like a house of cards if it did not become a more merciful church.

he made headlines by saying who am i to judge hem homosexuals. >> 76 of-year-old pope francis bluntly said it's not necessary for the church to talk about hot-button issues all the time. we cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. this is not possible. he does not disagree with the catholic church's stances on these issues, but warned that the church needs to manage its mission better. his most recent comments followed up highly publicized comments he made in july. >> if a person is gay and seeks god and has good will, who am i to judge him? >> reporter: he clarified them further saying he was talking about gays and lesbians, not gay

priests. >> for the first time in his papacy, pope francis made mission clear. it is to show compassion for those suffering without casting judgment. pope francis has already gotten attention from his predecessors who were seen to have a clear focus on the church's position. but any negative response so far to his interview published in 16 jesuit journals . >> to be clear pope francis is not changing church policy, at least not now, but he does

haven't a less judgment church. here with me now, in our studio in washington, d.c. and father mitch packwell, in birmingham, alabama, tonight. i thank you both for joining us. john, i want to start with you. pope francis was very blunt in this interview saying that the church sometimes locks things up in small minded should be about jesus christ. we now know that he doesn't consider himself

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notice that he said you can't understand these different issues outside of a context. the context is proclaim jesus christ. proclaim the saving love of god . and then after folks have heard that you can begin to deal with explanations of what that means, and then you can deal with the moral teaching. the moral teaching that flows from accepting this love of god. but apart from the basic starting point, the moral teaching and the catechism don't make any sense. >> he talked about how the--the main message of the gospel, the fresh message of the gospel needed to be listened to, and the church needed to be more merciful. john, church liberal versus been cheering some of what the pope said.

but there is some of this that rings--you know, the criticism of it, so many americans being cafeteria catholics. they can pick and choose what they want to talk about. does this in a way encourage that mentality that you don't have to focus on abortion, contraception, gay marriage if that's something that you don't want to focus on. and then you can pick and choose what kind of catholic you want to be? >> no, i don't think so. i think what's important to note here. this is not a dramatic break from the past in some ways. the church has a teaching of human life over the broad sense. during the year and during election cycles more specifically, you would think that all it means to be a good catholic is to

vote republican. i don't think the pope thinks that way. the obama organization which has had apocalyptic language other same sex marriage, the pope talks about we need pastors. we don't need the politicians, bureaucrats. again, this is a dramatic change of style, but it's not a break from traditional church teaching. >> right, talking about politics, how does it square with the positions of church leaders in the united states, including new york's cardinal timothy dolan. let's go where they had a platform about gay marriage and a woman's life toes. >> life, liberty, pursuit of happpursuit ofhappiness. god do we praise you for the

gift of life grant us the courage to defend it. we ask your benediction on those waiting to be born that they be welfared and protected. >> focusing on those social issues and on the right to life. dolan reacted to the pope's interview today. he welcomed the message of a clergy to serve as shepherds and to walk with them and be pastors not bureaucrats. but did he not touch on the controversial issues at all. how do you reckson reckon sile the pope's message. >> notice that cardinal dolen was offering prayer, and he was say to go welcome life. and he was using those basic principles of our declaration of independence.

that the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness comes from the creator. he's saying in this prayer that we are trying to be consistent with that, and welcome it. speech. he was simply connecting those basic rights. but i don't see what the cardinal was doing was at all different from what the pope is saying. i mean, he wasn't cas chastising people. you better not vote for abortion. no, he said we welcome life without which any rights cannot exist. that is a very basic proclamation of basic principles. that's exactly what pope francis is calling for. >> but on the other hand, other bishops and other church leaders in the united states, notabl notably

tobin of rhode island said he was disappointed that pope francis has not spoken of abortion. so there are conservatives in the united states who are not happy with this change of tone, and feel that some of these important issues should be talked about. >> yes, i haven't spoken to bishop tobin. my own perspective right now is pope francis is concerned with a lot of other issues. i mean there are hundreds of christians who are being murdered, beheaded, elsewhere, in mali. he has got a worldwide church, so we catholics who are here in this country need to confront those issues on a political

level when politicians infringe upon our rights, if that's the case, and we must speak up using our rights as united states citizens who address these concerns . but at the same time this is something that most of us do, you begin going out. that's part of the pope's message. don't just open up the doors of the church and wait for people to come in. but go out to other people and bring them the proclamation of the gomez of jesus christ. if you think about it this way, it's like when you have a newborn child, that child is treated with you not with rules and regulations. you simply want to let that child know how much you love and welcome the child. but as that child goes along in the life of the family, then you

begin to give certain rules and regulations and understanding of life. but that's what the pope is saying. as question go out and proclaim to people who are indifferent, let them know the basic gospel. later on the ramifications of the faith can be made more clear just like you do in every individual's life. >> the pope said that there needed to be more focus on the poor. that's something that we've discussed on this show before. whether he's kind of opening the door to even liberation theology, and its sort of the left wing of the catholic church by some of the things he has done and some of the people he has named into positions in the vatican. >> this pope has criticized some elements of liberation theology in the past.

cowrote a book with the founder of liberation theology. this is a pope who spoke about money, the problems of consumerism, he said he wants the church to be of and for the poor. his name, the fact that he took the name st. francis, the way he's living his life, living in the guesthouse in the vatican instead of the luxury apartments. carrying his own bags. these are all small things but they add up to a big message that the way i live is a reflection of the gospel. while the pope had a lot of words in this interview today, the way he exemplifies what it means to be a catholic, what it means to be a christian,

resignate s around the world. >> in a poll of catholics say 62% catholics say it should be legal. and on abortion. 36% believe it should be available. and 28% should b believ believe it should be available under strict limits. and father mitch, how do you think the american catholics are going to receive this message from the pope? >> well, it depends on if they look at it through the lens of some of the secular media who try to say that none of this matters any more. or if they look at his words and see that we have to begin with

that more basic gospel of jesus christ, and that love of him, that relationship with him understand his mercy in that as sinners we move forward in a relationship that ma sures. if they begin to see that that is exactly what he said, and that they begin to understand that, then they'll also begin to see that the moral questions have to be understood not as --in the 60s and 70s, they said keep the pope out of my bedroom. my response was you flatter yourself. he doesn't want to be there. but he wants god to be there, and the lord needs to be lord of every aspect of our lives, our family life, our religious spiritual life, and our sexual life, and all aspects of life

come together in god. and that love for us takes all the various impulses like john is saying, impulses towards materialism, consumerism, selfishness, ego mania, etc. all of that needs to be met with love and mercy, but then brought forward so that you move beyond it towards authentic holiness in jesus christ. >> again, he is not changing church doctrine but seems to be changing as the father said, focus, and maybe in that pastoral way welcoming more people to the church. i am sure he hopes to reverse the declining number of catholics in the western world. we thank you for joining us tonight. and we'll continue to look at what pope francis does in the days and months to come. thank you. coming up, rape is an epidemic throughout the world, and in the united states the

majority of rapes are under reported. taylor walker chose to talk about her experience to help others survivors. and hermela aragawi is fielding your questions, she'll >> every sunday night al jazeera america presents

>> rape is a worldwide epidemic, and in india there have been multiple cases of gang rape in just this year alone. the war in syria is marked by rape and violence. and according to the rape abuse and incest national network, every two minutes someone is

sexually assaulted in the united states. joining me now from nashville is 22-year-old vanderbilt graduate and rape survivor taylor walker who is using her experience to help other survivors. and professor jody rafael is author of "rape is rape," and our victim blaming is fueling a hidden aim crisis. taylor, i want to start with you. as matter of curtsy most media outlets will not disclose a rape victim during a pending case or even after. you could have remained anonymous, but you chose to come forward. why? >> well, number one, thank you so much for having me. i really appreciate it. i wanted to come forward because i have gotten past the point of carrying the shame that a lot of survivors do.

i healed enough to feel that i don't have anything to hide. i want other victims , other survivors to know that you can rise again. i decided i really wanted to be named. i didn't know my picture would be on the front page. >> this happened to you in february of last year. your senior year. on the vanderbilt campus. you had pepper spray. you didn't reach for it, and you were not able to scream. then after the fact you blamed yourself for not having taken action. why didn't you, and can you tell us about that? i know that's part of the message you want to get out. >> right, well, i think the average person when you hear that someone was attacked you think, well, why didn't you fight back? why didn't you scream, why didn't you do something?

and in my case personally i was in a vulnerable position from the get go. he basically had me pinned down, and it's a very strange feeling you feel like you're underwater. your body is protecting you because you know what's going on, but it's almost an out of body experience. i felt like i was just floating in water. my body, you know, moving an inch would an mile. everything was slow motion. i didn't think i could reach something. i thought about it, but only if i could get to it. in that moment i thought i have to survive. if i get this guy to go away and i live to see another day, that's fine. i didn't know if he had a weapon on him. i didn't know if he had a gun. i just wanted it to be over with. i think in that moment everyone is going to do what they can do to survive, and there is nothing that you should blame yourself for. if you survived.

if you saw another day, then you did the right thing. that's mainly why i'm talking about it. >> jody, what do you think about what taylor is doing, what taylor is saying about her experience. is that common in your experience of talking to and writing about rape victims? >> well, first of all, most rape survivors do not come forward and speak as taylor has spoken. it's remarkable. but we need more rape survivors to do that. i think people in the united states simply do not understand what a rape experience is like. they cannot put themselves in the shoes of a rape victim. she ask various questions, why didn't she resist. are

when it shifts to the victim rather than the rapist, then we're engaging in rape denial in the united states. this focus on the victim means that too many cases are not prosecuted in the united states as we have seen in india, and the rapist is not held accountable. let me just give you one quick statistic. in the 1970s 50% of the rape cases reported resulted with the perpetrator being charged in the legal system. by 2006 we have gone from 50% to 25% of the cases. so we are prosecuting fewer and fewer rape cases as the years go by. >> and the cases are believed to be significantly under reported. taylor, one of the things that must have frustrated you after the

fact in all this, the man accused of raping you was out on bond on charges of aggravated robbery and attempted rape from incidents not long before yours. and after attacking you, he went on to attack and rob or accused of attacking and robbing three more women in the days, and in that same weekend. it must be infuriating to know that this guy was on the street, and he was able to do this to you, and then go on and conceivably do it to other people. >> yeah, for sure. i mean, just mind blowing that someone attempted to do this once is already back out, and is able to do it, and then what i hear, you know, the day after my assault is that he's terrorizing other women in other garages. it's just an overwhelming thing. but i'm lucky in my respect him. i can only imagine the fear that

a lot of survivors live with when the their attacker isn't f, isn't put behind bars, and that is another part of the healing process you have to go through. >> jody, you mentioned the fact that people are being charged an prosecuted less often than they were in the past. is the problem broader that too many people who are accused of this are getting bond and they're out on the street again? >> it's a major problem in that the public up to this point as well as police and prosecutors, judges, and juries are showing indifference to this issue of rape. they're really not responding in the way that they should be. and in my book i spent, i don't know, seven or eight years trying to pin down the reasons for this indifference. and there are really many

reasons, but basically in our culture today i think we really do not understand this issue of rape, and we don't respond properly, and when we have an identified predatory rapist, the response is so much less than what it should be. >> taylor, you were pretty strongly set against going to therapy after the attack. but you changed your mind afterwards. i know you're thankful that you did. what message do you have on that front for people who, unfortunately, are in your position. >> don't be stubborn. i got a phone call, two or three voice mails from a wonderful lady how love to death to this day named amber. i remember getting the voice mail, and i thought i'm not going to call her back. i'm going to deal with this. i'm fine. but she showed up at my preliminary hearing.

she was there with me and walked me through it, made sure that i was okay, that i could breathe, that just the simple things of just being there, that i could just be in that space, and it just gave me a sense of. >> unfortunately, we lost taylor, and taylor is going to go to law school so she can continue to work with sexual assault victims, and wants to do what she can to help. jody, i thank you for being with us tonight, too, and i wish you the best with your efforts, and your writings to bring attention to this important issue that needs a lot of attention. thank you very much. coming up, can anti-bullying measures in schools actually lead to more bullying?

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let's bring in one of the study's authors, assistant professor at the university of texas arlington. he joins us from texas, and in virginia, professor of education at the university of virginia. i thank you both for joining us. so again i want to start with you. your study reads, quote, students attending schools with bullying prevention programs were more likely to have experience ed pure victimization compared to those without bully prevention programs. why do you think that's the case? >> hi, i think there are two pop reasons, in a positive way and a negative way. in the positive way, they're usually in an anti- bully program might improve the code of silence because being a victim of a crime or bullying, they do not want to report their

problem. but the anti-bully program may impact and increase they report the problem. in a negative way they learn the techniques and skill throughout the program. so also they are able to learn how to avoid getting caught. so they are in a positive and negative way to explain that result. >> dewey, what do you think about that? on one hand there is more reporting and people become more aware of bullying, but also why shouldn't we expect that bullies would end up learning techniques of bullying and get away with it when they look at all this training about bullying itself? >> bullying is a very serious problem and i wouldn't can't to send the message that bullying programs can't help.

we've had dozens of controlled studies that shows bullying prevention programs can and do work. there is nothing in these programs that teaches you to be a better bully. bullying is not that hard to do. kids do it quite naturally, and they do it without training. i'm really not concerned about that . the texas stie did not ask but one question about schools and programs. whether they had a program. they didn't ask what kind of program, what was taught in the program, how long the school had a program, or whether students benefited from the program. it only asked did you have a program. that's really not an effective way to determine whether a program works. >> there are different types of programs and some may be more effective than others, but the fact that ther there was that kind of

statistical outcome is significant. >> well, it's not significant because you haven't done a controlled study to see what bullying was like before the program was implemented. let me give a simple example of the study's design. if i went out to a group of people and asked if they were taking medication or not, and i found those taking medications were sicker than those not taking medication. you wouldn't conclude that medicatio before taking medication these people weren't sick. you need a group of subjects. some of them get the program or medication. some do not, and then you follow them over time. unless you do a scientifically valid control study, you're not entitled to conclude that a program does or doesn't work. it's very important principle of

scientific methodology that applies to medical research . >> do you agree with that? >> yes, i agree with the doctor's comments. that is a huge limitation of my research. this is date abou database sponsor and collected by the u.s. department of health and human services at 195 different schools. however, if we think the main principles and the core goals of every single anti-bullying program is preventing, removing the bullying problem from the school, even if they have all different types of education and curriculum, procedures, we can assume that they share the common goals.

if this is true we have to get, even though we're asking whether you have a program or not, even though we're asking just binary, we are expecting there some positive result because we assume they share the common goals. even though this-- >> let me tell what you many bullying researchers have found. >> okay. >> and what i found when i set up bullying programs in schools as well. when you first introduce students and ask them about bullying, they don't use the term very often. they're not familiar with it initially. there is a code of silence about acknowledging it, and maybe not release what is happening to them is really bullying, social bullying isn't obvious to everyone. so when you start out a program initially students don't report

they're being bullied. but when you have a program in place, you educate students about bullying. students become more aware of it and they become willing to acknowledge that they experience bullying. after bullying prevention program starts the levels of bullying seeming to up simply because they're doing a much better job of detecting it than in schools where they don't have it. >> that's the point that was made. >> that's a common problem we face when we do bullying research. >> yes, i agree with that. >> we have some social media reaction. let's go to hermela aragawi for that. >> thanks, antonio professor cornell, bullying starts in elementary school and some researchers believe it peaks in intermediate school, why are all promis programs in high school. are there enough resources allocated to elementary schools?

>> well, there are not enough resources at all levels. most of the evidence base bully prevention programs were actually designed for upper elementary and middle schools. that's where we have most of the programs. we need them at the high school level because there is high school elementary. we need them k through 12. the problem is that there are many programs that haven't been validated. we don't know if they work. very often educators will select programs without knowing whether they're scientific evidence of their effectiveness. the real message we want to get out of the public there are bully programs that work, and educators need to go to resources like stop bully in bullying.gov where they can identify programs. >> it would seems that the research highlights that, there are issues with some of the programs and the effectiveness needs to be studied.

i want to speak about what professor cornell brought up, the whole issue of social media bullying, and that's one of the things that you found in your study, that boys and girls suffered different kinds of bullying. >> yes, the boys of more vulnerable to physical victimize, and female girls are vulnerable to emotional victimize. many people think about bullying in a physical content between two person, but there is spread of rumors, being called mean names, and emotional psychological stuff as well. there is difference between males and females. >> dewey, the cdc reported one in 12 high school students have attempted suicide. a stunning number, and bullying being a major factor.

you brought up the need for more studies. clearly it seems to be a dramatic problem in our schools. >> yes. >> because-- >> the bullying researchers in united states and canada, there are researchers developing effective programs. there is a worldwide anti-bull anti-bullying movement. there are programs in asia and europe. this is recognized as a worldwide program that impacts children emotionally and academically as well. >> thank you both very much. this is an important issue to discuss. i wish you both the best in your efforts. coming up, a new numbers hi, my name is jonathan betz,

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of poor kids are hispanic. 30% of poor children are white and black kids make up the rest of the level. mississippi has the highest percentage of child poverty at 34.7%. that's one out of every three children in that state. another down note, homeownership fell to 63.9% of the population. the census revealed a faster growth of immigrants, 18% of the population, and they're better educated. immigrants with a bachelor's degree are up 9.8 million. another bright spot the amount of americans without health insurance dropped from 16.9% to 16.5. that's before obamacare kicks in next year. but while more people may be seeing doctors, the census numbers do not offer many signs that our economy will get well soon. up next, breaking bad is the

big frontrunner on sunday's primetime emmy awards or what some think should be millions who need assistance now. we appreciate you spending time with us tonight. up next is the golden age of hollywood going golden but elsewhere. why l.a.'s mayor has declared a state of emergency for the entertainment industry there. next.

>> the 65th primetime emmy awards are coming up on sunday night. this year's nomination highlight the battle between the broadcast and cable networks with nominations ranging from "modern family" to "breaking bad." >> i can't ever remember having more fun with you. >> i'm so lucky. now get out. >> i thought you wanted. >> no, get out! >> nothing can change what just happened, but you can walk ou out of here alive if you just promise us that you'll just go. >> networks might still dominate and accommodate in the comedy category but cable is monopoly monopolizing drama. bill great to have you back, we can't question any longer the

cable networks are dominating these nominations. hbo has received 108 compared to cbs and nbc tied for second at 53. it had more than double the two second place network s. other than in comedy or broadcast networks, after thought? >> in the emmys it's beginning to look that way because hbo has always gotten a lot of nominations. it's a very high class network and television industry understands that. but when you see the basic cable channels, sliding in there, it seems that the networks are pinched on both sides. >> amc "breaking bad." "madmen" on amc. bs has" do wnton abby," and netflix's "house of cards." one question that came to mind

when i'm reading this, should the broaded cast networks continue hosting the emmys because they're honoring their competition. >> that's a good point. it's almost as if the traditional networks don't have that gene for high quality stuff. maybe since the time of "west wing" which had high technical values. "the goodbye." the good wife." but they don't seem as sophisticated as some of the new dramas we're seeing. >> most of what we're seeing are crime, they're fun, but they're certainly not going to win emmys. some are complaining that it's not fair. robert greenblatt said those are all great shows talking about the drama nominees, but we have

great shows that don't have a chance. budget vary tremendously. in hbo, they have a budget of $6,000 to $10,000 an episode while the good wife spends $2 million, and has to do 22 or more episodes. what does this mean for network dramas? are we going to see a resurgence of the comedies again? >> there is a lot of whining that goes on in hollywood and the tv industry. you'll see these network presidents say anything to advance their case. i do feel for them. it used to be a very simple world. your competition was warner, cbs, abc, it was a simple world, and it seemed like they had incoming every time. the networks are laden with these huge institutions, these huge buildings, huge staffs, huge production teams.

they order 15 to 20 pilots every year and then whittle them down to just a few. they compete and they have production facilities, and they're trying to get those shows on the air. it may be that they're not nimble enough to get by. maybe the tv networks need to invest a little bit more. on the other hand they do think on their feet a lot of ways. the last 15 years for the reality show starting with "big brother" and "survivor," and then fox was so innovative on so many levels, you have to give them credit for "24" which is more of a cartoon than a drama, but that was an innovative show and the music shows like "the voice" and. >> reality tv seems to be saving the networks. on sunday the emmys are up against major shows.

before it was all repeats and the emmy emmy's was the king of the castle. but we have "dexter," and "breaking bad," and then sunday night football which has only been on the networks for the last seven years. are the emmys becoming irrelevant? last year they had 13 million viewers versus sunday night football had 21 million. >> it really could be true. you can see a generation of people growing up, being invested in a show like "glee" but not really not--i can't think of anyone who is really rooting for a certain show to win best reality series. i don't think "the amazing race" has fans sitting on the edge of their seat thinking about that. the very nature of the show mitigate against interest in the emmys. yet on the other hand it's one of those old fashion tv spectacles. it is live, they don't know what is going to happen.

and they're trying to get younger viewers like the oscar s. but "breaking bad" is really stretching the investment of the dvrs. >> another interesting thing this year, two african-americans, kerry washington and don cheadle, who have been nominated for leading roles in drama, and in reality there has not been an african-american actress nominated since 1995, and worse than that, no black actress has ever won. let's look at kerry washington in "scandal." >> living for stolen moments in hotel hallways and coast closets. you keep telling yourself that they have something real, but they won't, because stolen moments are not a life. so you have nothing. >> she's terrific, but do you think she has a chance of winning with the tough competition she has? >> it's really unclear.

television reflects society. american society still has issues with african-americans in certain ways, and this gets reflected in the tv industry. you don't see the up and coming people, and you just don't see enough shows that give african-american actors and actresses the juicy roles. there are much less directors writer and producers. i really don't see her winning, but we should talk about emyes predictions. emmys are almost always unpredictable. there is a huge industry in oscar prediction, but emmys don't. if you look at prognostic cases, they're 70% wrong. >> so who will win best drama? >> yet again. >> now that you put yourself in predictions, who do you think will win? >> the honestly don't know.

john hamm, this is getting close to the end of "madmen," and he has never gotten a statuette for his work in "madmen." it's a very difficult thing. if you win an oscar you don't get one the next year with rare exception. but emmys, they find someone they like. >> and he's won a bunch. >> he really has. even in the african-american world its interesting there are some people like alfre woodward who has dozens of nominations, and once they decide they like someone, they go back to them year after year and give them nomination after nomination, which is strange because you have a plethora of tv shows and you would think that they would spread the wealth but it's an insular industry. they like who they like. "house for cards," for not

coming out of traditional broadcast television or cable television, and it's not really clear how it got nominated because you can see some of the industry not voting on it just on general principle. yet on the other hand they changed the rules five years ago that said basically once you do get a web show we're going treat it just like any other show. maybe that helps it. if that wins that's a big water shed. >> another big controversy that is going on about a special tribute honoring four giants of television. but then they also included cory monteith of "glee," they have james gandolfini, jean stapleton stapleton, and cory monteith whose first big role was in glee but they ignored larry hagman,

jack klugman. they defended the indication and they said it was important to be responsive to younger viewers who cory monteith who these other four meant to their generations. i suspect the young people don't even know who they are. but it seems bizarre. you have 15 minutes to answer this for me. >> it just comes down to ratings. it's for younger viewers. obviously he's not a transformative performer on tv. he's not that great of an actor, but we want to get as many young people to watch the show as possible. >> there will be competition on sunday night. >> the show may be over but the competition continues on our website at www.aljazeera.com/consider this

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