this is al jazeera america live from new york city. i'm tony harris with a look at today's top stories. face-to-face at the white house, president obama trying to broker a compromise. from keeping the government running to paying the bills. the latest as the u.s. approaches the debt limit. the master of the modern day thriller is gone. america remembers best-selling author, tom clansy. ♪ a new effort is underway to end the first government shutdown in more than 17 years.

house and senate leaders arrived at the white house a short time ago. a live picture from the white house. they are holding their first face-to-face meeting there with president obama since the shutdown began on tuesday. libby casey is on capitol hill, but we begin with mike viqueira at the white house. why did the president call this meeting, mike? >> the simple fact that they are meeting represents progress. the big question is there any movement towards resolving this dispute even as we head into the next one some 16 days away. this is has already stretched on longer than a lot of people thought it might, but even as these principals meet behind closed door, that there will result in any break through at

all. but the president pronounced himself exasperated. he had an interview with cnbc. he seems like he is fed up. let's listen. >> during the course of my presidency, i have bent over backwards to work with the republican party, and have purposely kept my rhetoric down. i think i'm pretty well-known for being a calm guy. sometimes people think i'm too cam, and am i exasperated? absolutely. because this is entirely unnecessary. >> the president also telling cnbc, that this time there's going to be a profound impact on the economy. now that is belied by the way the stock market has been behaving, not sinking as many expected. the president said don't be

deceived by that it is going to get a let worse unless they can come to an agreement. >> is this about something potentially bigger than the shutdown. >> on october 17th according to jack lew the country is going to exceed the debt limit. the president said he will not negotiate on the full faith and credit of the united states, this is just authorization to pay the bills that have been already racked up. the republicans think he will negotiate. it was two years ago that ended up in the sequester to cut over a trillion dollars over ten years, and that is something that people are now feeling the effects of tony. >> mike thank you. and let's talk live now to libby casey. she's on capitol hill for us. libby anything happening in

house? >> the house is taking a series of votes, tony, but don't expect it to equal very much in the end. they have broken down the budget into some different key areas, national parks and museums, and budget item -- items that have garnered a lot of tension. the republicans say let's tackle them piecemeal. it is dead on arrive, though in the senate. the president is not going to support. eric cantor is the number two republican in the house, here is what he had to say about it. >> i hear the folks here behind us, and i'm as frustrated as they are, and i think my colleagues are as well. we are here to say these memorials, the washington monument, the world war ii

memorial, the smithsonian, all out to be open. we'll bringing a bill to the house that will reopen these monuments and museums. >> you can hear people very upset in the background, a group of protesters showed up to say hey, we're tired of being furloughed and we want to get back to work, but you can real sense the tension in the moment, tony. >> has either side shown any willingness to budge? >> not a this point. no, i mean you heard from mike viqueira how the white house has given their perspective. senate democrats is right there with president obama saying is about getting the government back up and running. key point, republicans have this

growing group among their caucus, a moderate group who is saying this may not be the moment to fight over the health care law, and it might be time to start talking about the fiscal situation, watch the house and the republican body for any kind of movement, but nothing yet, tony. >> all right. libby casey for us on capitol hill. where there is at least some work going on. with this government shutdown abestimated 800,000 government employees are furloughed. a loss of $270 for every day the government is shut down, but not every federal employee earns that much. let's look at the wages for workers at museums and park services, on average their make $30,920 a year, and stand to lose almost $120 a day. americans working for companies

that do business for the federal government are also off of the job and anxious to get back to work. joining me now is the ceo of a small business that provides contract employees to the federal government. great to talk to you. thanks for your time. so you do business with the federal government and have various contracts with them. tell us what your company does. >> we provide information technology, program management, and also it and other classroom type training to the federal government in over 25 states. >> how many employees have you had to furlough and what has been their reaction. >> we have about 115 employees, we had to furlough yesterday about a hundred people. a lot of our contracts are not what the government considers to be mission critical projects, so

those for personnel had to be temporarily furloughed. >> yeah, so look you are running a business, so you have a rainy day fund. how long before you start to deplete those funds and start to see real impact to your bottom line? >> i think for every business it differentiates, but we hope it doesn't go any longer than two weeks. we really want to get the employees back to work. that's our number one priority. their need and their families come first, so that's our biggest obligation. and hopefully the government can some to a resolution as soon as possible. >> what will be your biggest concern if this stretches in to not days but weeks? >> our biggest concern will be our employees and their familiar list. and also the employees looking for other jobs to barely get

buy, because right now their primary job is at a stand still. >> abdul we talked about how frustrated your employees are. how frustrated are you as a business owner? >> as a business owner, i'm very frustrated as well. we try to keep the economy growing by employing people, and being as our company is 100% reliant on federal contracting, we hope there is funding to keep our company progressing as well. companies like small businesses like myself, our staffs very small to begin with, and we operate based upon the revenue that is generated from these projects, and when that revenue is not coming in, we're also at risk to our corporate headquarters. >> all right. abdul, abappreciate it. he is the ceo of a small

business that provides contract employees to the federal government. >> thank you. >> our pleasure. wall street is voicing its concern over the government shutdown. the dow down 60 points after yesterday's gains, and some of the company's biggest bankers met with president obama warning of dire consequences if the debt sliment not raised. >> it's just making sure that we understand the consequences of -- the long-term consequence of a shutdown, we're already in the short-term consequence of a shutdown, but certainly the consequences of the debt ceiling, and we all agree those things are extremely adverse. >> ali velshi joining us now for a conversation on this. has there been any movement in addressing the debt limit? >> huh-uh, back to you tony?

no, that's actually the issue. this shutdown is terrible. it is isn't a drop in the bucket compared to the debt ceiling, and if this is where they are now, the debt ceiling we run out of our ability to pay our bills starting october 17th, that's when we are in real problems. i wonder when the bankers go up to washington and say who do you think the public trusts less you in congress or us? that is a weird scene seeing the bankers warning washington about what not to do. >> how bad could this be if this debt limit isn't raised? >> if you don't raise it, the treasury does not have the ability to pay bills. last time we claim close, we got our credit rating downgraded, but we didn't miss a payment. if we actually miss a payment,

you know what happens if you miss a payment, your interest rate goes up, and that interest rate flows down to everybody who is trying to get a loan. this could end up effecting everybody who is looking for a loan or has an adjustable rate mortgage. that's what we're playing with here. >> you are going to talk more on this issue and others. >> yeah, we'll talk about where this shutdown is hitting real people and what this shutdown is really all about. >> all right. ali velshi "real money." many people who are trying to buy exchanges are overloading the website. the exchanges are as you know an important part of president obama's health care reform line.

they are still having trouble enrolling people in new york city. >> this man broke a rib last month, one visit to the emergency room cost him $1,500. that's without insurance. >> that taught me to think, you know, what will happen, you know. and will it be cheaper for me to take a plane and go to mexico? you know, probably. >> reporter: as a freelance photographer he said it hasn't been easy to get affordable health care coverage. >> we live in a place where you can get pizza at 4 in the morning, but you can't get health care. >> reporter: the navigators, the workers who were supposed to enroll insurance applicants, were still having problems logging into the system. >> we expected glitches.

we expected there to be hiccups along the way. >> reporter: heavy traffic slowed the launch and spilled over into today. right now they are just meeting with navigators to understand what their health care options are. and they are coming with lots of questions. >> they are unclear of what the affordable care act is, they are confused by obamacare, what is the difference what was the same. a lot of people thought the government shutdown meant this wasn't going forward. >> reporter: so far they have not said how many people have admitted applications. they said enrolling immediately isn't necessary, participates won't see the benefits until january 1st. a deadly crash has shut down

the highway in tennessee. a tire on a church bus blew out and caused it to cross the median and slam into an suv. six were dead on the bus at least 14 people were injured. the decision in the michael jackson wrongful death trial is expected to be released soon. dr. murray is currently serving a two-year sentence after being found guilty of involunteer manslaughter. jackson died of an overdose in 2009 just days before his tour was produced by aeg live. ♪ a brand new round of mountain snow is heading in. this time it's going to be

significant, as we get into parts of wyoming this time. in this cascades and rockies we got a fair amount, but you can see this storm gearing up to move into the northwest. the back end of this band of clouds is our strong cold front and it will bring in significant snow as we get in to mainly tomorrow in the morning hours throughout the day. wind gusts already picking up. there is some very cold air behind this front. the winds are justing to get blustery. we have wind advisories along san francisco. san francisco right now getting gusts to 25, but building to 30 for las vegas, and boy are those temperatures going to start feeling cooler too. wind gusts up to about 25 for rapid city, and here is another area where the cooler air will

move in and begin to drop the temperatures. yesterday we were cooler by about 10 to 15 degrees, now we're cooler than that at this hour. still warm for omaha and chicago. a nice day but slightly cooler as we get into the afternoon. with a team of inspectors on the ground, the un security council takes on another big issue. plus the onetime insurance salesman who became a best-selling author, tom clansy remembered just ahead. that's all i have an real money.

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welcome back to al jazeera america. a team of weapons inspectors is now in syria. they will begin finding and destroying that country's chemical stockpiles. a team is expected to arrive later in the week. and because syria has the right not to reveal military secrets,

the un security council is calling on the syria government to allow immediate access to humanitarian aid situations. the situation is rapidly deteriorating. christian reports on the latest measure. >> reporter: the security council responded to the desperate situation in syria with a statement calling for more aid workers. the statement urges the syrian government to facilitate safe and unhindered humanitarian access to people in need in the most effective ways, including across conflict lines and where appropriate across borders. the syrian ambassador said the government could comply but stressed the importance of funneling it through the

government. >> the syrian effort is part of the overall collective effort in providing aid to these people, wherever they are, everything should go through the syrian government and the office at the united nation. >> reporter: a statement doesn't carry the full weight of a resolution, but it was applauded by the humanitarian groups who fought hard for it. tom clansy, one of the world's best-selling novelists has died. he was 66 years old. he helped pioneer the tech know thriller genre. he sold more than 100 million books. >> reporter: tom clansy's novels

read like action-packed movie scripts and many of them became just that, as well as best-selling video games. a former insurance salesman who never served in the military, his first thriller, the hunt for red october, was an instant success. >> this thing could park a couple of hundred war heads off of washington and nobody would know a thing about it until it was all over. >> reporter: his spy craft information was so detailed that a secretary of defense once demanded to know who has leaked him information. >> what i wright about are people who believe in something, people are a sense of duty, with a sense of mission, who want to make the world better in some way. >> his 25th and last book is

scheduled for publication in december. tom akerman, al jazeera. ♪ and ross is here with the sports headlines, and baseball's post season underway. >> it is off to a great start because the pittsburgh pirates had to wait 21 long years for a playoff, but happy times are here again. the pirates will be hosting another post season game after spanking the reds last night. russell martin unloading two homers on the night. and they are now moving on into the nl division series against the cardinals starting on tuesday. we are doing it once again tonight, the indians will host the tampa bay rays in a one-game winner-take all matchoff.

according to the new york daily news a-rod's defense team is using the i didn't know the substances i took was illegal. a-rod's people are denying that report. but the hearing is expected to last through friday in front of a three-member panel. and they'll decide to uphold, reduce or overturn the suspension. he admitted to using performance enhancing drugs in 2009, the big question, has he used it sense? >> the circus is in town. thank you, ross. in a special series al jazeera takes a look at the future of reading across the globe. today we travel to sri lanka. the old-fashioned book is facing a new rival. >> reporter: this mobile library

service for children is very popular. she has borrowed its books for almost ten years. >> translator: i have enjoyed reading books since i was very young. books are nice and meaningful. >> reporter: the project run by the library, visits areas ever two to hour weeks. >> children who are introduced to looks at this age continue to read when they are older. >> reporter: but for those who don't the world of technology is where they often turn for entertainment. youngsters are spoiled with high-tech devices. many children are not embracing reading on these devices in the same degree. >> translator: the audio field has expanded greatly, and i see that as a reason for children moving away from reading.

>> reporter: the world's largest floating book fair attracted thousands of readers during a recent stop. >> i think it's refreshing different experience to hold a book and read. >> reporter: the ship's captain said there is still market for books in many of his ports of call. >> we do see more and more electronic books, but for many of the places we visit that is going to be far, far in the future. >> the libraries and other places with hard copies those will be closed very soon. >> reporter: the president has initiated a project to provide books to sri lanka school children. the increasing availability of the internet in most spots

combined with low cost and devices is luring children away from books. but for these children nothing beats a good old-fashioned read. tomorrow dave takes us to mexico. they rank second to last. mexicans read an average of less than three books a year, compared to spain where people read 7.5 books annually. politicians fighting, and people complaining, we are not talking about washington for a change. and just the classified documents shed new light on president clinton's decision to intervene in the bosnian war. that's coming up.

come, it is here. >> yes, let the games begin. he is fighting for his baseball life and some $46 million. a-rod and all of his attorneys were there fighting his 211-game suspension. the hearing is expected to last less than five days, after that the group will decide to uphold, reduce, or overturn the suspension. if the suspension is upheld, rodriguez would lose some $32 million in salary, and he wouldn't be back on the field until he is 40 years old. the big story tonight, people, the rays will be taking on the rangers in a tiebreaker in arlington, so we decided to

bring in our mlb columnist rob parker. what happens when social media uncovers unheard, fascinating news stories? >>they share it on the stream. >>social media isn't an afterthought. it drives discussion across america. >>al jazeera america social media community, on tv and online. >>this is your outlet for those conversations. >>post, upload, and interact. >>every night, share undiscovered stories. al jazeera america here is a look at your top stories. a california jury has reached a

verdict in the michael jackson wrongful death trial. the sdigs expected to be announced any minute now. the mother and siblings sued the concert promoter on negligence. jackson died of an overdose in june of 2009 just days before his comeback tour produced by aeg live. the federal government and states are facing pressure to fix their overloaded websites. were similar issues on tuesday when the exchanges web on line. the exchanges are an important part of president obama's healthcare reform law. president obama is sitting down with house and senate leaders at this white house. the white house insists the

meeting is not a negotiating session. the two most crucial people at the meeting are the president and the speaker of the house. libby casey is live on capitol hill with more on the complex relationship between the two leaders. libby walk us through the history of the president and john boehner, because it has been a pretty rocky relationship at times. >> well, they have been described as the odd couple back in the day. it looked like these two very different men might be able to get along. president obama with the profess or attitude, and john boehner with his roots. there was an argument over the debt ceiling, the two men went golfing, and it looked like they might be able to come up with a grand bargain.

it all fell apart, in part, because speaker boehner got a lot of pressure from the conservative blank of the republican party, and president obama wasn't willing to compromise on things like he really wanted to raise taxes on the wealthiest americans, he said he wasn't going to move off of that, and since then the relationship has deteriorated, and they both think the other can't listening or communicating very well. here is president obama on cnbc this afternoon. >> democracy is messy, but when you have a situation in which a faction is willing potentially to default on u.s. government obligations, then we are in trouble. >> reporter: so you see there they don't have a personal relationship or that successful of a professional relationship

either, because neither is willing to come to the table. >> what do we know about the vice president's roll in this. joe biden has often been the one to connect the sides. he has been able to work with mitch mcconnell in the past to move things alone. >> absolutely. where is this guy in he met with the prime minister of greece today. so vice president biden, a long-time senator, he has a lot of relationships here in congress on capitol hill, and typically with mitch mcconnell, but biden may be trying to run for president in 2016, so he has really been absence, that is notable, but mitch mcconnell has also been absent from the negotiations. his voice is not the one to boom in the room right now, because he is facing a challenge back home. he may be very powerful in the senate, the number one republican, number two overall in the senate, but that doesn't

make a difference when you are up for election back home. and he is getting pressure from the right flank. and so neither men have a lot of incentive to be part of this process, so the ones to watch are speaker boehner and president obama. >> libby appreciate it, thank you. joining me from washington to talk about the shutdown and the meeting underway is republican strategy jack burkman. >> good to see you. >> yeah, pleasure. pleasure. the meeting is underway right now, what is the best that comes out of that in your estimation? >> i think the shutdown is actually healthy for the country for a lot of reasons as a conservative i think it's the only way to enforce budget discipline. if you don't have fights over the deficit, the sum total of all of this will be the deficit and the debt continue to increase. like we were saying -- >> jack, jack, jack, jack, this

is not about the deficit. this is about obamacare. 2011 was about the deficit, but this is about healthcare reform. >> you make a good point. i guess what surprises us on the right is obama by his own admission they weren't ready to implement the exchanges. given all of that shouldn't they have been the first to want to delay. it's hard for me to understand the issue, but i think when you look at the shutdown, you have to think of it in stages, like at first -- i'll be the first to admit, republicans -- we're losing the pr war. the president is going to smash us with this. he wins all of the pr for spending, and he is doing it again now. even the fox polling shows obama winning drastically. that changes, though, if this goes on -- let's say we cross the three-week point, get to the

four-week point, the stock market tanks, the economy tanks, and the president may have more incentive to end it at that point. >> that's possible. what deal do you think, jack is speaker boehner looking for, and will the president office some kind of concession on health care? >> i don't know if this is a negotiation, my sense is this is really kind of a photo op. i really think if there is to be a deal, it's not rocket science, it will be a combination of maybe some delay on obamacare, make four or six months, who knows, and some combination of social cuts, maybe they will take some from hud, and the commerce department or the epa,

anywhere where there is a slightly bloated budget, obama has a lot of room to maneuver. spending has gone up a lot in the last four years. it wouldn't be hard for obama to make the cuts, you know, we'll see. >> jack is there a -- sorry for the terminology -- a grander bargain available here? something that deals with the budget and corrals the discussion around raising the debt ceiling? >> yeah, if you bring in the debt ceiling, i think obama might be -- just as you say the issue gets bigger and grander. obama might be willing to deal on obamacare. and he can say now it's the debt ceiling too, so to preserve the full faith and credit of the u.s., i had to make this deal on

obamacare. he has latitude to delay it. but, again, you really come back to incentive. in the short and medium term, obama wins. so if you are obama you want this to go on. boehner might have an incentive to end it in the short-term. however, when you get to the long term, boehner wins, and obama may have the incentive. so i think like three weeks, three and a half weeks is the breaking point. >> the calculations of a strategist. there it is. thank you, jack. >> thank you, tony. for the first time an american president participated in an event to declassify cia documents. andy gallagher has our report. >> i woke up in the middle of the night last night, and i could don't be back to bed. i relived bosnia from start to

finish. there were is the first time a u.s. president has been part of a declassification of cia documents. he told the gathered crowd that intelligence was vital in every decision his administration made. >> like all of history, there are many questions still pending, but the peace has held, because a long time ago, with a lot of other things going on, good people were given good information and made good decisions. [ explosion ] >> reporter: war in bosnia began almost 20 years ago. it was the bloodiest conflict in post world war ii europe, the serbian forces fought together with others. the declassified documents more than 2,000 pages of them, were released early by the cia, but despite the hype there were no

significant revelations, but to many in the intelligence community, it is about transpairsy and accountability. >> it's very a healthy thing for those of us who worked these issues in the heat of the shop floor to now stand back and see what incites we had. >> reporter: they were incites shared by former clinton advisors who came together for the release of the documents. madeline albright said it wasn't always an easy process. it is normally at least 25 years before sensitive documents are released. this symposium was basically a celebration of what the clinton administration views as one of its greatest achievements, lasting peace in bosnia.

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you know, people around the world are trying to make some sense of what the government shutdown in washington really means. i spoke with phil earlier, and he told us how the shutdown is effecting the world economy. >> as far as the economy is concerned, the reaction on this side of the atlantic has been muted. is a lot of waiting and seeing, holding your breath. what is happening domestically in the states is not really effecting things economically on the side of the pond. but there is deep concern obviously about the debt ceiling. right now the europeans, it's kind of lukewarm reaction, there has been a hit to the dollar, some of the markets here have gone up or down, but what they are really concerned about is the debt ceiling argument, and

if america defaults on its debt, that means the money owed to the various economies around the world will not start flowing back in this direction, and that has europeans really scared, tony. >> here is finger to the wind. how is this effecting america's global reputation? >> well, that's another thing where america is taking a major hit. the globe really just doesn't understand what is going on in america. the nuances on the arguments on the hill don't filter down to the rest of the world. what they are really saying is what is going on with america. they don't understand domestically is america can't get its house in order, and even on the global stage coming so closely on the heels of syria, and that confusion, that it

doesn't look like there's clear leadership or direction coming from america either domestically or internationally, and that has a lot of people wondering where is this going to lead? >> there is some head scratching going on in italy today too. phil stand by, because i have a couple of questions for you on this story. if you can't make heads or tails of the u.s. government shutdown, consider what is happening in italy. up until a few hours many were convinced the government was about to collapse. sonia has more from rome. >> reporter: a convincing win for italy's prime minister, and a huge climbdown for his predecessor -- [ technical difficulties ] >> translator: majority of

italians are yelling at us that they can no longer take these scenes of blood sned the political arena. >> reporter: he wanted his freedom party to back his call for his ministers to quit the cabinet, but then he announced he was backing the prime minister. >> translator: italy needs a government which can produce structural and institutional reforms that the country needs to modernize. we have to sign it, not without internal strife and support a cop if ied -- confidence vote. >> reporter: wednesday's about face was surprising and humiliating, but while his grip on his party has been weakened some refuse to declare his political career finished.

>> probably there is a chance for him to be elected again, or to play a more significant role in the future. >> reporter: on wednesday, the financial markets reacted positively to the confidence vote. the prime minister still faces huge challenges in reversing years of economic stagnation. >> and phil is back with us from london. what is the international reaction to what is happening in italy? >> a huge sigh of relief. i -- i can tell you that. there was deep concern over italy. the concern being that that would throw the euro zone's third largest economy into disarray because of a political impasse in the -- in the parliament there, hijacked by a small minority of his party, kind of the far right of his party, where even now the center

right would say, woe, wait a minute, let's not throw the baby out with the bath water and let's be careful with this thing. now that he has backed down and the government has maintained himself, and we seem to have passed this storm, the euro zone is just going to be awfully relieved that they won't go into yet another crisis. >> the u.s. and italy seem pretty tame when compared to lawmakers in the ukraine. when the country's newly elected parliament opened its session, things got ugly. people were wrestling with one another. all of this over what? absentee voting. good thing former world heavyweight boxing champion, who headed the opposition party did not join the brawl.

he said afterwards his punches would have been too dangerous. and how about this, things got nuclear earlier in taiwan. punches were thrown and so were water battles, on whether to finish a fourth nuclear power plant on the densely populated island. we have breaking news from california to stair with you. a jury has found that concert promoter aeglife were not negligent in michael jackson's death. the mother and siblings contended that the hiring of the doctor caused his death. murray is serving a two-year sentence after being found guilty of involuntary

manslaughter. ross this was big last night for the pirates? >> everybody was busting out their pirates gear and putting away their steelers gear. the manager clint hurdle probably said it best. saying we were not thinking one and done, we were thinking one and run. and now they are running off with the division series. we're doing the drama again tonight in the american league. so who is going to be the x-factor tonight. rob parker gives us the inside scoop. >> i think alex kolb who is pitching for the rays, this guy is a stud. and the indians, i hate to take anything away from them, but if you look a little closer they played bad teams down the stretch and their record against good teams over .500 is not even

close to what you would think. so i want to pick the indians because they are at home. but i'm going to pick tampa bay. they are upper excited in nashville. they are ushering in the seth jones era. our jessica taft connects the dots. >> reporter: you could say seth jones was born to be a professional athlete. despite moving around a lot as a kid, the one place he found a permanent home was on the ice. >> the first time he laced up his skates was the age of five and hasn't stopped since. skating his way to three gold

medals. >> the gold medal resembles a team and chemistry and every time you look at it, you remember every guy that was on those teams, and it's very, very special to be part of that. >> it's the will to win and ability to make it happen that brought the defensemen to the next level. for seth, sacrificing, blood sweat and tears on the eyes for years was the easy part. waiting to hear his name at the draft was the toughest. >> it was the longest nine minutes of my entire life. it was exciting, though. i mean my entire namly was there supporting me, and jon obviously one of the best days of my life so far. >> reporter: seth jones was the obvious choice for the predators in this year's draft, but the sport wasn't necessarily an obvious one for a kid who's

father was former nba player papa jones. he went to the guy he shared an arena with to learn more about the game. >> by dad ran into him at the ring and he said i would probably put him in skating. i really pride myself on my ability to skate. i think that really helps me in the way i want to play my game, which is offensive and up in the play most of the time. >> reporter: after signing his first pro contract with the predators, jones has gotten a taste of what life in the nfl could be like, and has let himself dream about making his debut. >> it's something that makes your heart beat a lot faster. >> reporter: while dad may not know a lot about the game of hockey, he certainly knows what

it takes to be a professional athlete, and he has done his best to prepare his son for the road ahead. >> he says keep your head on straight, don't get too high, don't get too low. >> reporter: but as far as skating advise, it is safe to say he will not bring out the skates. >> oh, no, he doesn't skate. he bought a pair when i was like, but they are probably thrown away now. tiger woods will be teeing it up in the american's cup. he loves this event, because for one, his opponents are much younger now. >> a lot of the guys who used to rip me up pretty good are now on the senior tour, and i'm one of the veterans on the team, so i think that overall, i think that's one of the reasons why

guys want to make these teams. is once they get a taste of it, how much fun they have, and what goes on and the camaraderie. and to represent your country makes it even special. >> the americans haven't lost this event since 1998. >> he is one of the old guys now? >> yeah. what does that make us? >> all right. thank you, ross. coming up on "real money" politicians in washington are acting like children. and that means thousands of kids and parents are being denied health care. and an f word that can strip thousands from your savings. all of that and more on "real money." the most important money stories of the day might affect yourries savings, your job, or your retirement. whether it's

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♪ parts of the west are about to get hit by a storm that is going to feel a lot more like winter than fall. in fact, we're going to get more to this pacific storm. first we have breaking us in to let you know about it. >> we want to get you to the white house now where speaker boehner is speaking. >> proposals over to our democratic colleagues in the senate. they rejected all of them. we have asked for a conference to sit down and try to resolve our differences. they will not negotiate. we had a nice, polite conversation, but at some point, we have got to allow the process that our founders gave us to work out.

we have appointed [ inaudible ] on the house side to sit down and work with our senate colleagues. it's time for them to appoint conferees. all we're asking for is a discussion and fairness for the american people under obamacare. i would hope the president and my democratic colleagues in the senate would listen to the american people and sit down and have a serious discussion about resolving these decisions. >> there you have house speaker john boehner after his meeting with the president in the house, speaker boehner said there was a nice, a polite conversation between everyone involved in that meeting. what you heard there in terms of any kind of real substance is the fact that the speaker went in and asked again for a conference committee, from the house and senate to come together and to meet and talk about the differences that they have, and maybe an approach to

funding the government. and no discussion of a talk of any kind of negotiations that both sides still remain dug in on their positions. more on that in a bit. welcome to al jazeera, top stories right now, president obama is wrapping up a meeting with house and senate leaders. we just heard moments ago from the speaker of the house john boehner. the speaker said all sides had a nice and polite conversation, but there was no deal. the speaker again asking for a conference committee between house and senate leaders to work out a compromise. on wall street, stocks finished lower, the dow closed down 59 points. it had fallen nearly 150 points earlier in the day. the nasdaq and