speaker boehner to get congressional republicans to get on board with a clean spending bill? >> that's a great question, john. it's going to be a tough lift. he may actually have to go bigger rather than smaller and look ahead to the next fight on the horizon. that, over the debt limit and try to convince his caucus that they can win more ground in a later fight than this one. but the republicans are in a lot of ways boxed into a corner. they went into this fight a little stronger than you would think. we had this sequester, the mann mandatory budget cuts that cut back in. the republicans could have spun that to say when we get ready to f funneled the federal bucket, we made some big cuts thanks to our work in part. they chose the tactic of going after the healthcare law and using that, that fight over the federal funding as leverage for their healthcare laws objective. it's interesting. we are seeing people upset. we had that great sound and visuals of federal workers saying, i want to go back to

work. but if you are a conservative republican representing a tea party congreg a.l /*al district may say go get them. keep at it. the conservatives are not incentivized at this point to back down. >> it sounds more like this is more than a shutdown. it's a breakdown of the federal government. so, from a congressional standpoint, what happens next? >> reporter: it's so interesting. so we are seeing the house republicans put forth a series of bills that would fund parts of the government, pieces of it really, national parks and veterans, but that's not going to fly in the senate because we are hearing that hard line from harry reid and the white house saying we want to look at the big picture of the continuing resolution to fund the government. so the question is: how can the republicans move something forward that could change the conversation? and, you know, once again, it comes down to these factions in the republican party. the tea party caucus, these members who are more conservative and the more moderate members, those who have been around longer and been through more fights and are more

seasoned. they are pushing back. you know, we heard coming out of senate meetings today that a lot of republicans are upset at people like senator ted cruz because they've set up this game that's not necessarily playing out. they don't see what the end could be. they don't see that they are going to be able to defund the federal healthcare law. they don't see they will get budget concessions at this point. and it's eating itself a little bit because some conservative action groups like the senator conservative fund, a group that's fundraising, they are actually attacking members of the republican party who they don't think are being conservative enough. >> all right, libby casey on capitol hill. libby, thank you. let's bring inbard brad blakeman, a former senior aide to george w. bush. >> thanks, john. >> i listened today to some of the debate on the house floor and heard a accurate screaming almost at the top of his lungs that all the house needed was 20 republicans to come over to the other side and this would end.

is that pressure building on some of those moderate republicans? >> well, i think pressure is building to end this. i think on all sides. and look. the president, before having meeting with congress, what did he do? he called in the titans of wall street to the oval office and told them, i want to see some pain felt in the market did to add pressure to this. so the president and both parties are feeling pressure not only from their own groups but from the general population that they don't want to see the government shut down. so there has got to be some give here sooner or later, and i think there is going to be a global deal, john, between the continuing resolution and the debt ceiling. i don't think you are going to see one solved before the other. >> so this is linked now? suddenly it's not just the budget >> absolutely. >> we are talking about both the budget and the dent ceiling >> absolutely. the dates are too close. october 17th will be here before you know it. we haven't started the negotiation on the debt ceiling. this is married now. >> was this the strategy to

begin with >> no. i don't think it was a strategy to begin with, but that's where we found ourselves. there is no way the republicans will agree or the democrats, i think, at this point, to a continuing resolution without the debt ceiling. the two are now inseparabley linked. there will have to be a agreeable resolution. >> they are different? >> they are completely different, but john, you are not going to have one without the other because, now, they both have to do with spending. they both have to do with budgeting. and i think that the they are different. politically it's important funding the federal government to open up offices and send federal workers back to work the debt ceiling, if it was six months apart, i would agree with you. now, the legitimate is going to be used for both sides to try to

make a global deal. maybe this is a good exit strategy for republicans. maybe we give them a clean cr with -- and then deal with the debt ceiling in getting the cuts, the real severe cuts we need to reduce our obligation and our debt, not only current debt but our future debt. >> there has been a lot of talk about the divide in the republican party. what has this shutdown done to the party, itself? >> well, i think we have a faction in our party like democrats have in their party. ours are more vocal at this point. there is more attention brought to the tea party republicans. but having said that, the principal that they are fighting for is right: the president's own law was amended by the president. extraordinarily and without his power. remember, the president, the only way the president can and a law is going through congress. the president exempted businesses for a year and republicans were saying, mr. president, if you exe businesses, why not the individual? the president brought this on, himself. >> it doesn't have anything to do with the budget. >> well y did the president

exempt businesses? it has everything to do with the budget, john because there is billions of dollars not coming in to the treasury to cover obamacare because of what the president did the. >> why doesn't -- why don't those republicans go through the regular normal procedure of trying to challenge obamacare and writing a law? >> they did several times. >> they are in charge of the house. they can bring any bill up that they want to. >> well, let me ask you the same question: why did the president and his law in the proper way by going to congress and saying, i want businesses exempted. pass a law. the president didn't do it. he did it by presidential fiat as he has done by executive order on epa, on immigration. >> so you think this is normal? this is a normal process we are going through? >> no. this is not a normal process and it should not be a normal process. >> it's becoming a normal process. >> and it's not good. it's not healthy for the country on either side. i've got to say that. i am dismayed we are at this

point. >> did republicans -- did the tea party republicans make a mistake moving forward on this? did ted cruz lead the republicans down the wrong path? >> well, let me say this. i would have much preferred as a republican not to tie obamacare to the cr. but that's gone now. now, i think what we can do is we can -- we can marry the cr to the debt ceiling. i think democrats feel the same way and if we can cover two items at once before the next deadline, that's in the best interest of the country. let's get this behind us. let's solve two problems and go on to the really big problems that we have, ab that's producing a real budget. next year. we never had a budget under this president. >> so that i am clear, so obamacare is still on the table? is that what you are saying? >> well, certainly the medical device tax, i think, somehow, some way, the president has got to compromise. we have divided government. the president said i am not going to negotiate. what he did today was basically a photo op with congress and there was no real negotiation.

there was no good faith exhibited by the president in this meeting tonight. >> brad, it's great to have you on the program. thanks very much for speaking with us tonight. >> thank you, john. the stockmarket is closing slightly lower because of washington. the dow closed down 59 points, down nearly 150 points earlier in the day. the nasdaq and s & p were also down. around the world, people are watching what's going on in the united states and phil ipner takes a look at the impact and reaction overseas >> reporter: global reaction to the shutdown of the federal government has overwhelmingly been a sense of confusion and concern about where america is headed. not only domestically, where according to the press here in europe, it seems america can't get its house in order but what that means on the global stage. in particular, with america as the global leader in security issues, keeping in mind that this domestic crisis on the hill comes quickly on the heels of

the crisis over syria, where america was seen to be confused in that issue as well. so globally, the reaction to what is a domestic issue is playing very badly in terms of america's reputation, the world just doesn't know where america is headed and has been deeply befuddled and also deeply concerned. one thing that is more tangible. one thing that is more definite, however, is the concerns over that debate over raising the debt ceiling. the world is eking out an economic recovery even more an e-ma anemic in the united states and the europeans are deeply concerned if the debt ceiling is not raised, if mercury anythings on its debts that it will send the entire recovery into a tailspin. and that has europe, in particular, deeply, deeply

concerned. >> we have remained dry and a little bit of sunshine outside. great for seeing some fall colors. however, withno nooa not working websites telling you where to find these fall colors, we have to rely on where we know they are starting to develop. we are starting to see dry conditions diminish in parts of the mid won't. when we look at the august rain in asheville, it was so far above the normal well above two and a half inches here that now our wet weather to start the season in august has caused a problem with acorns. the harvest is not that big. the lack of it is causing black bears to come down to lower elevations. now we are getting a lot of sightings down in the blue ridge mountains. something to start keep in mind when we talk about weather

patterns and how cold it will be for you coming up next. >> thank you. high demand causing problems for the government's health insurance website. mary people finding they can't even log on, much less buy coverage. we will have an update next. >> obama administration officials said they need to enrol 2.7 u.s. redents between the ages of 18 and 35 in exchange plans to balance risks and hold down costs. will they enrol come 1 october - should they pay the face. >> joining me now is jen mishory, deputy director of young invincibles, she's in washington d.c. and yevgeniy feyman, a research assistant at the manhattan institute.

thank you for being with us. i want to start with you yevgeniy feyman. the young people are crucial to the success of obamacare. >> absolutely. they'll balance out the risk pool, they'll keep premiums that need the insurance, and the administration is reaching out to them. >> jen, the young invincibles are in the 18-34 group. [[voiceover]] fault lines investigates wage practices in the restaurant industry. >>the employers have the upper hand out here. they can steal from you and face very little, if any, consequences. >>basically, this industry is saying, "we don't have to pay these workers at all. they should work for us, but we don't have to pay them." [[voiceover]] two-thirds of low-wage workers experience wage theft every week. >>you're telling that these people are allowed to treat people like this, and you can't do anything?

>> the federal government is being urged to fix glitches with the new healthcare exchanges. people trying to buy insurance online are running into overloaded web sites. there were similar issues yesterday when the exchanges went on line as part of the affordable care act. let's bring in david shuster once again to talk about this. this is the second day in a row we have had problems? >> yeah. john, obama administration officials are scrambling to add computer servers to handle what they say is unexpectedly high demand on the new if he hadral health insurances marketplace. a spokesman for the department human services says the key website, healthcare.gov gotnique

visitors in the first 24 hours it was open and the help line received one 90,000 calls. the demand has caused technical glitches and bottlenecks and the problems have extended to websites run by a number of states that built their own market places here in new york, for example, the stateside has been overwhelmed periodically again today with messages appearing every few hours that en judged visitors to come back another time. in addition to the various w websites there are hundreds of organizations trying to help people register at hospitals, libraries and community centers. we had a chance to speak to the director of one community center in new york about what they are seeing. >> we expected glitches. this is a huge endeavor. it's a statewide endeavor. it's a nationwide endeavor. we expected hiccups look the way. >> for people without insurance, who were hoping to get signed up immediately, the delays and glitches have proven very frustrating. you can see some of the people there with the help line trying to answer the phones. although some of the people trying to sign up say that the whole frustration of trying to get on the website is not as

difficult or frustrationing for them as getting stuck with hospital bills that they cannot every day to pay. the ongoing problems in the websites have not been caused by staffing shortages due to the government shutdown. that's because this entire system has already been funded and the people running it have not been furloughed. however, insurance companies and outside consultants have been warning for weeks of potential problems in the complex computer systems being built by the state and federal government and john, some it experts say the kinds of overload problems they are experiencing, it experts say it could take several weeks to fix. >> it continues to be the political football that goes back and forth between the republicans and democrats about whether or not this works. >> right. >> all right. david. thank you. so, fallout from government. fallout from the government shutdown is also hitting the housing market. as diane esterbrook, the fha loan process is making it tougher for home buyers to get mortgages. >> with a to doing and baby on the way, brandon hinkle and his

wife have outgrown their two-bedroom condo. early next week, the couple plans to close on a 4-bedroom home. but there is a problem. the closing might not happen if the hinkles can't get an important document from the government because of the shutdown. >> if they are not able to get it done by the 8th, we could potentially lose the house, which means my wife would probably kill me. and we would have to scramble to do something about, you know, the space problem. >> this is the document that the hinkles need, called a 4506p form from the internal revenue service. the irs uses this form to verify a home buyer's income and lenders require it in order to close on a loan. the government shutdown in washington has sidelined irs workers who process tax forms like the 4506t. mortgage broker michael delfredo says his business is in limbo by prospectstive home buyers can apply for mortgages, he can advising them not to lock in interest raises because he is

not sure how long it will take to close loans >> if we lock for 30 days with the assumption we will close in 25 days and the government pushes things back, we will be with an extended rate lock. it's exenpensive to me or exten to my client. >> some fear it could have an adverse affect on the slowly improving housing market. >> if mortgage money is not readily available and cash buyers do gain a big advantage, that can affect the prices that sellers are able to command for their homes. >> hinkle is hopeful the shutdown will end soon and the closing can happen sometime before the baby is born in december. diane eastabrook, chicago. as we mentioned a little bit earlier, there are 15 days until the next big financial deadline in washington. the nation hits the debt ceiling on october 17th. the ceos of some of the country's biggest blanks met with president obama today to talk about what could happen if

congress refuses to increase the nation's borrowing limit. patricia sabga has more on that >> reporter: wall street is concerned about what may happen if congress can't agree on raising the $16.7 trillion debt ceiling. the u.s. will exhaust borrowing authority and be best with about $30,000,000,000 in cash to pay the nation's bills. >> that's a major problem because the net expenditures on any given day can run as high as 60 billion. speaking after the mete with obama, goldman sachs lloyd blankfein warned about the consequences if the stand-off continues >> it's making sure we understand the consequences of the long-term consequences of a shutdown. we are already in the short-term consequences. the consequences of the debt ceiling. we agree those are extremely adverse. >> the treasury started using the last tricks up its sleeve to push back the date when the legal borrowing authority runs

out. jack lew says the measures will be exhausted no later than october 17th. if congress doesn't act, the government will have to make some stark choices about which bills to pay, how damaging all this could be depends upon a lot of factors, including how long it will take for congress to finally, act. >> the initial shock, there will be a flight to safety on the u.s. treasuries even in that environment may still be viewed as the safest place to be because everyone knowse congress will get its act together but the long-run con sequences for the soundness of the u.s. treasury market will be shaken. >> it's impossible to predict how damaging the economic effects of hitting the debt ceiling would be, but there would be pain, including the possibility of raising interest rates for consumers on things like home loans and car loans and, of course, the worst-case scenario would be the government runs out of money and defaults on its debt but nobody wants to see that happen.

rasha nubucka is here. >> head scratchers in baseball because if you are the highest paid player on your team making $13 million a year like dan uggla, you would think to be on the roster. think good. like hitting 22 runs this year. dan uggla, a 3-time all star was left off of their roster because he is batting 179. here is the deal. when you can't hit your weight in baseball, that's not a good thing. the braves take on the la dodgers in this best of five series. alex rodriguez appealing his 211 game suspension in connection with the bio genesis scandal but according to the new york daily news, his defense team is using the: i didn't know the supplements i was taking were illegal. that will excused worked for roger clem options and barry bonds but wiit work for rodrigu?

he admitted using enhancement drugs in 2009. has he used them since? prior will be back against the chargersyor will be back agains chargers he suffered a nasty n concussi concussion. but the highest paid third stringer making a guaranteed 6 and a half million dollar. great work if you can get it. we will be right back. david stockman says republicans need to take a stand on obamacare. we will ask him why. >> consider this: 10 eastern on axis america.

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welcome back. i am john seigenthaler. here are the top stories. a lot of people are having problems signing up for the affordable care act, the healthcare exchanges. the government says it's working quickly to resolve those problems. officials point out that coverage doesn't take effect until january 1st and enrollment will be open until march 31st of next year. investigators are on the scene of a church bus crash in tennessee today. the crash took place about 20 miles northeast of knoxville on

i-40. the church bus overturned after one of its tires blew out. at least 8 people killed and 14 occurs injured. it was still no deal. president obama met about an hour ago with house and senate leaders to discuss the government shutdown, but they reached no agreement. republicans accused obama of refusing to negotiate. democrats accuse republicans of constantly moving the goalpost. ali velshi is back to talk about this. when you see john boehner and you see harry reid come out of the white house, you get the feeling this isn't going to be solved any time soon. >> yeah. yeah. >> how does this affect the psychology of consumers and investors? >> so, it's much clearer than the psychologist. we have companies like united technologies who have had to furlough people and say this goes on for another week, it will be several thousand people more. you know, they played thissous. you don't need to be too psychological about it to say that if i work for a company that does business with the government, i am at risk. if i live in a community that's

heaviy poily populated, a woman tweeted to say i have a small business and a lot of my customers are government employees. >> that's going to hurt my business. that affects her decisions to hire people. it's the same thing that people think when they feel a recession coming except they feel it very inten intenseli and they have to make decisions quickly. when we feel we are in danger with our money, we grab it and put it numbern our pockets and sit on it. >> you talk about what people can do. >> yeah. >> what can -- what can consumers do to prepare for a week or two more weeks of this? >> well, john, the good news is we are substantially more prepared as a people than we were for the recession because that scared us in 2008 when that stuff happened, we weren't ready, didn't save much money. we weren't that cautious. the last few years even though we borrow a lot of money these days, we are a little more cautious. if it's a week or two weeks, the general position can handle it. but a lot of people, i heard you talking earlier about the average wage of a government worker around 70 ,$000 or many

that's a family income. a lot of these people live close to the vest. it's not really easy to go a couple of weeks if you don't know that you are getting that money back. they might pay these people. they might not. they don't retroactively pay the guy who rungs the catering truck or the hairdresser or the appliance sales person. there is money lost from the economy no matter what happens. >> let's move on now to the debt ceiling. we heard a republican consultant earlier in the program program talk about this is going to be linked? >> yeah. >> too close, whether it was planned or not. this is noose what's going to happen. >> yeah. >> so the debt, you have always talked about how the debt is a bigger issue. >> you may believe that the government should spend less. the debt ceiling is wrong tool. all of your spending tools are taken by your members of congress. >> that's to had with your memb of congress. don't stop the guy who has to pay the bill you already ran up.

no. 2, there is no real discussion between the two parties about what to do about the debt ceiling. the democrats want it raised. we, by the way, we passed the debt sealing in may. treasury has used all sources of gimmicks to keep things going until october 17th. the republicans have a laundry list they want done in order to agree to suspend the debt ceiling entirely for a year. that laundry list is pretty much changing government as we know it. everything the democrats stand for, the republicans want undone. so they are going to use the debt ceiling to do more than just obamacare. obamacare is number 1 on a very long laundry list of republicans say they want done in order to agree to the debt ceiling. politically, you and mike viquera would no better than i do. i am not sure that's going to fly. >> all of us thought, i think there was going to be a deal in the first couple of days. now, it appears there is not going to be a deal. and you sense by listening to the people, not only on the house floor today. i mean i sat and listened for a while to some of the republicans

and democrats, the anger level is going up. american people are mad as hell. >> i don't know how you sit with patience and listen to both sides arguing about this because americans are very frustrated by it. at some point, these parties know that nobody's got time for this. as mike's been reporting, as he told us two nights ago when we were sitting here waiting for this to happen, there are components of the republican party saying, guys, we need an exit ramp. we need a way to get out of this. people are very frustrated. so a, the frustration is growing. the popularity of trust of congress is going down. b, we have a serious issue. we have until october 17th to work out this deb ceiling. >> what about the banker's meeting with the president today? what do you think that was going to accomplish? >> you know how i feel. we are sitting here wondering which of these two groups we trust less to discuss the implications of this shut down. the bankers did what bankers have to do. they went and told the government this is a very bad idea that the shutdown is a bad idea for business confidence and that not increasing the debt ceiling is a bad idea.

you know, i don't know what anybody gets out of this. this is all political now. right? it's not actually common sense. it's theater. so, s is going to have to happen. it didn't influence anybody today. >> how much -- let's talk about how much it's costing the government to shut down. >> yeah. >> so estimates are in a week, it would cost -- it would cost the economy about $16,000,000,000. as you know, members of congress stilt get paid. >> right. >> $255,000 a day which is still more than 3 times what the average government worker earns in a year. so doesn't sound lilth like a lot of money. even 1.6 billion in a big budget isn't a lot of money. but -- >> but they are not on furlough either? >> they are not on furlough. confidence is what this economy runs on. there are so many that run on, like china what the government's priorities are. sumps we think government is too big, it's cogassumers who make decisions. where we are feel remembwe are

we are feeling better about the things and now we have these guys messing it up. >> by shutting down the government, it's costing the economy more >> it's not a savings. if you want to cut spending in the government, you have to do it in an orderly fashion, i.e., over time, with precision cuts. this doesn't -- this is not cheap. this is expensive. >> all right. ali, good to see you >> good to see you the government shutdown has left thousands of low income families as we mentioned scrambling to find day care for their children. the head start association says some of its pre-school centers are closing due to a lack of funding. closures could affect almost 19,000 children. >> that's out of more than a million en rolled in the program nationwide. in addition to education, head start provides kids with food and medical care. programs in 10 states and puerto rico did not receive new grant money on october 1st, though not all of them have closed yet. hundreds of children are enrolled in those programs in each state and the program helps thousands nationwide. the national head start association told al jazeera, it is a crucial service for the

parents of those children. >> this is on top of 57,000 children that already lost services and that already lost their spot in head start due to the sequester. it's just an additional cut on top of -- on top of a very deep wound that's been just absolutely devastating for families and, again, i don't understand how this isn't essential. >> and one of the areas affected by the closure of the head start program is talledegah, alabama. more than 800 head start children there. wendy robinson is a preschool teacher at a head start school. her young daughter, sophie has been able attend -- who has not been able to attend her pre-school classes. welcome, wendy. it's good to see you. thanks for joining us tonight >> thank you for having me. >> tell me what it was like today for you. >> well, it happened friday. well, we got the note friday

saying that if the government shut down that we would know by midnight on tuesday morning, and so, we worked monday, and then tuesday morning, i got up by -- it was 11:00 our time, 12:00, their time and it said that she had shut down, and all i could think about was, you know, dear god, please do not let this go on for longer than a day or two because, you know, i am a single parent with three children. and my job is my income. and so, i was just worried about, you know, what if it's long earn a day or two? what if it's a month or two? you know, i was just several things started running into my mind when this happened. >> so you are off the job, and sophie can't go to head start as well.

right? >> yes, sir. >> that's right. >> and what does that practically mean for you? >> what that means for me is that i have no income, and my child is not getting any education, and she learns a lot in one day at school. and i teach a lot in one day at that school. so, not only is it, you know, affecting my family. it's affecting thousands of families around the united states. and it's just i mean my income is basically on that job. >> as you watch what's going on washington, and i assume that you have been following this pretty closely, give me your thoughts about what you are seeing. i mean we heard the speaker of the house come out tonight and heard senate majority come out and say no deal. what do you say to that? >> i am very upset. i just knew they would come to

an agreement when they all sat down. i am a christian, and i am not going to bash anyone. i just feel like it's, you know, both parties need to come together and be united, you know, because we are, you know, one nation under god, and we are supposed to be united together, and they are supposed to be able to come to a conclusion together, i feel. i just feel like it's nonsense honestly, that this is even happening. >> when i see you and your beautiful daughter sitting there and think about how long you can survive if this goes on much longer, talk about what happens in the next several days. >> in the next several days, if -- i mean, i will have to contact the unemployment. i am not real sure if the unemployment, if we will be able to draw unemployment for this. i am not real sure about that.

my heart is with headstart, and, you know, i am trying to -- i am going to try to tough this out as long as i can because i love my family, the headstart and i love my children that i work with the. sophie loves headstart, and i don't want to go nowhere else. i want to be a part of headstart until i can't be a part of headstart no more. and i mean, i don't know what else to say. it breaks my heart that this is happening. not only to me and my family, but to all of the other families. >> well, wendee, we hope you and your daughter sophie are able to go back to headstart soon. she did a great job of behaving while you are doing the interview. >> she is a handful. >> i know this is a tough time for you. thanks very much. >> thank you so much. the agency that watches over half of colorado's pristine's

lands is feeling the shutdown pinch. the bureau of land management closed 4,000 of its field offices nationwide and 90% of its staff is furloughed. paul beban has that story >> reporter: here in the western united states, the landscapes go on forever, mountains, plains, rivers, forests and desserts. sure, it's pretty but the next of the bureau of land management is to make sure that all this scenery makes money for taxpayers. the bln mingdz 40% of all federal landanages 40% of all federal land. >> that's some 245 million acres. 13% of the entire country. the blm supports logging, ranching, and out door recreation. but energy development on blm land, coal mining, gas money, that is where the big money is. as much as $6,000,000,000 a year in revenue for the federal government. we wanted to find out what happens to blm operations when the government shuts down.

i started by calling the main number for the blm's regional office in colorado to try to get some answers. >> hi. you've reached the colorado state office public room. we are kirk closed because of the government shutdown. >> hi, you have reached the bureau of land management. i am currently unavailable because of the government sh shutdown. >> i got no where. in fact, after four calls, all unanswered, i was redirected to the very first number i dialed. the internet was also a dead-end. every search for the blm, grazing maps, a list of its 4,000 campgrounds, was redirected to the website of the department of interior, the blm's parent agency. even blm's twitter feed was dark and the department of interior wasn't returning calls either. the blm has 10,800 employees, 10,200 are on furlough because of the shutdown. the 600 essential employees still working will do things such as run the blm's wild horse

program, pat trol blm land and help keep the oil flowing through the alaska pipeline. since we couldn't get anybody on the phone, we decided to just drive out to the blm regional office and, you guessed it. >> trying to go out to the bureau of land management building, making calls and no one is answering. >> that's probably because they are closed due to the furlough. >> the bureau of land management is one of 28 federal agencies that have offices here at the denver federal center. we wanted to find out how many of them are open and how many people are working during the shutdown. so we called the main office here they told us that, thanks to the shutdown, they couldn't answer our questions. they told us to e-mail the general services administration in washington. gsa told us to e-mail the office of management and budget. we are still waiting to hear back from them. thafrmingdz to the shutdown, we can't find out for now at least how much of the nation's business isn't getting done. ball beban, al jazeera, denver.

all right. so, let's head down to washington d.c. where there is a lot of activity tonight. also, at the muse yes, ma'am where joi chen is standing by. >> a lot going on here in washington. we are going to go to a different story tonight. we will take you to a dark place where we will meet an inspiring group there in haiti. they call themselves "the fearless women" in a country still trying to rebuild from that devastating earthquake and crushed by so much poverty and pain, crusaders there are trying to protect other refugees from the fearsom creatures of the night, sexual prettied predators. a special correspondent, soledad o'brien as they comfort neighbors living in fear. >> this will special report she brought to us from haiti. a day in the night and lots more on the top of the hour. >> we will see you then, joi. coming up, a new purpose for

unmanned aircraft. how scientists are using drones to help farmers grow bumper crops. coming up in sports, the story of one rising star and his unlikely road to the national hockey league. al jazeera america - a new voice in american journalism - >>introduces america tonight. >>in egypt, police fired teargas at supporters of the ... >>a fresh take on the stories that connect to you. [[voiceover]] they risk never returning to the united states. >>grounded. >>real. >>unconventional. [[voiceover]] we spent time with some members of the gangster disciples. >>an escape from the expected. >>i'm a cancer survivor. not only cancer, but brain cancer.

well, people usually associate drones with surveillance but in oregon, scientists are using r aircraft to try to keep potato crops healthy. alan schoeffler has more >> reporter: in oregon where the potato crop is an $865 million a year business, third-generation farmer, james alford is always looking for new

ways to grow more and use less of everything. >> resources are finite. the water is finite. the fertilizers and crem chals are finite. >> aerial photography is part of that effort. infrared i amages shot from an airplane can show him where his potato crop has problems. but there may be an even better tool on the horizon at this oregon state university research facility, unmanned drone flight tests are underway. systems that could provide a keener eye in the sky for farmers. >> with these things, you can actually lower the altitude, get finer resolution, be at maybe the leaf level. we have the touch the to see a whole lot more and understand problems a lot sooner than a color infrared photograph taken at 10,000 feet. >> the drones look like something built from a model kit but cost thousands of dollars and have to be flown by a licensed pilot. the f.a.a. gave a license for these tests and guidelines for

broader use of these type of aircraft is expected next year. it's controversial because of privacy and security concerns and because of the deadly use of drones by u.s. military forces. >> how does this drone work? >> we don't use drones. remember? >> there is some sensitivity about the semantics here, the words being used and the technology being used. this is as close as we were allowed to get to take video of the unmanned aerial system. >> but james alford is mostly sensitive to the variables and tools that can make his crop more healthy, if these, whatever you c you call them can help, he will consider using them. >> it's a financial thing. two, with my sons, to give them a chance to be fourth generation farmers, we have to take care of what we have. >> with an eye on the future and an eye on agriculture, precision farming may get more precise. alan schaffler, oregon.

ross is back with sports and the baseball playoffs off to a great start. >> the pirates got the epic win last night. rays and indians are paying a one-game winner take all showdown tonight. don't feel blue unless you are feeling dodger blew. dodgers opening their best of five series against the braves. atlanta has homefield advantage. dodgers have their spark plug and the best pitcher hands deal, kershaw. are you nervous? >> get those butterflies before every game, get the kind of anxious energy. but, you know, once the game starts. for your club to perform and that you are prepared and all that. you feel the pressure of that. but just like i will ask my players to do, i want to try to

do for myself is make sure you cut all of the surrounding, you know, circumstances away as much as possible and manage the baseball game. >> on the nhl season underways, they are uber excited in nashville because they are ushering a new era. jones was the fourth overall pick in the draft last june making him the highest selected african-american player ever plus his dad is a pretty famous athlete. jessica taff connects the dots. >> you could say steppes jones was born to be a professional athlete. despite moving around a lot as a kid, the one place he found a permanent home was on the ice >> i moved around because of my dad and i settled down in colorado for about eight years and i had a lot of friends in school that played hockey and go into the hockey community. >> the first time he laced up his skates was the age of five and he has not stopped since ing his way to three gold medals, the most recent being for team

u.s.a.'s 18 and under? >> it regime bells a team and chem degree. you remember every geothose teams. it's very, very special to be a part of that. >> it's that will to win and able to toy make it happen that brought the 6' 4" depositionman by pausing to make a leap to the ultimate stage. for seth sacrificing blood sweat and tears on the ice for years was the easy part. wasn'ting to here his name at the draft was the toughest. >> the longest nine minutes of my entire life. i mean you feel like the world dropped on you every time you didn't hear your name. it was exciting, though. i mean, my entire family was there supporting me. and, you know, it was obviously one of the best days of my life so far. >> seth jones was the obvious choice for the national pred ators in this year's draft but the sport of hockey wasn't necessarily an obvious one for the kid whose father is former nba player popeye jones.

dad and denver nuggets didn't know a lot about the game. he went to the guy they shared an arena with, after large super star, joe sackek. >> i never personally met him, but my dooed ran into him at a rink, and he said i probably put him in skate. if you can't skate, you can't play. >> he took the hall of famer's advice and ran with it making skating the biggest strength of his game. >> i pride myself, my ability to skate. i think that helps me in the way i want to play my game which is offensive and up in the play most of the time. >> after signing his first pro contract with the predators, he had gotten a taste of what life in the nhl could be like, and he has let himself dream about making his debut. >> obviously, i think it's something that makes your heart beat faster. >> while dad may not know a lot about hockey, he knows what it takes to make it as a professional athlete and the

indiana pacers' assistant coach has done his best to prepare his son for the long road ahead. >> he gives me advice and you hear amount of the same advice from a lot of different people. keep your head on straight. don't get too high. don't get too low. >> as far as skating advice, safe to say popeye will stick to hoops. >> he cannot skate. no. he bought a pair of skates, but i haven't seen him since i was like six years old. so they are probably thrown away by now. >> in nashville, tennessee, jessica taft, al jazeera. >> just a quick update on baseball game. ries leading. >> rebecca stevensen has the weather after this. an epidemic of race is sweeping haiti. how can women in refugee camps product themselves. we appreciate you spending time

with us tonight. up next is the golden age of hollywood going golden but elsewhere. why l.a.'s mayor has declared a state of emergency for the entertainment industry there. next. ç]

>>. >> a false storm move okay shore in the passiffic is more like a winter storm with its potency. it's going to bring in significant mountain snows from idaho into wyoming and casper. you were expressing up to three inches of snow on the ground. it's going to be that wet, heavy snow.

so once again, while you are cleaning up from the other wet, heavy snow we had, you are going to get some more. wrecked have more power outages around wyoming but now we are seeing stronger storms around minnesota, a precurse to the actual cold storm that will moved in to the west and slowly make its way eastward over the weekend. and we are all going to get an impact from this in the way of cooler temperatures, even gusty winds from the southwest. the other part of our story is more rain tracking in to the gulf of mexico, a cluster of thunderstorms here that may develop into a tropicalgression as it moves on shore by the time we get to friday. saturday, it's going to be moving right towards louisiana and north florida, right where we don't need any more rain. we will get it anyway. here are the win gusts, up to 25 miles an hour for san francisco, 40 to 50 miles an hour at times, closer to the water, santa anna winds will increase, main lee peak strength 50 to 60 miles an hour but that will come friday

morning and saturday morning for southern california. so we've got a lot of red flag warnings out because it's going to be so dry with those powerful northeast winds coming in. it brings more concerns about any kind of fire getting started. it's just going to be picked up by the winds and carried a little further. the other part of the story is definitely the cold weather. boy is that cold air coming in fast overnight and tomorrow. and the snow is going to start falling from central oregon over to central idaho and you can see winter advisories into mont tanna as well. get ready for some 234i7 in the air from seattle to billings and tomorrow's high in the west also staying k cool.

>> welcome to al jazeera america. i am john sigenthaler. here are the head lines. there is no end in sight. the president obama met with house and senator leaders tonight after the meeting, houses speaker john boehner accused the president of not being willing to negotiate. senate majority leader said the house had six months to change obamacare. this is not the time to try to do that. stalemate not helping stock prices. the dow fell nearly 150 points earlier in the day. nasdaq and s & p were down. a blown tire is being basicallied for a deadly crash. the accident shut down i-40 about 20 miles northeof