president obama met with congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle, but the white house meeting ended with no deal in sight. plus the shutdown is having a trickle down effect now that 800,000 employees are not going to work many are feeling the impact. tragedy for a church group, a tedly bus crash leads eight dead and two communities in morning. the matter of the modern day thrill holzer gone, america remembers best-selling author tom clancy. ♪ ♪ i would not have a job, i think need to get to work. >> lost productivity is costing taxpayers, economist put the shutdown price tag at more than $587 million counting. president obama did old a closed-door meeting at the white house wednesday with congressional leaders from both side aisle. when the meeting was over there appeared to be little progress with both sides unwilling to

budge from their positions. mike viqueira has did he details from the white house. >> reporter: well, this is the first time the president has sat down congressional leaders since the shutdown began on monday night in to tuesday. afterwards the leaders came out and spoke to the president used worst, worthwhile, nice, candid to talk about the discussion that lasted for about an hour. after this they took turns talking past each other and on the surface of it anyway, this impasse continues heading in to day three of the government shutdown, john boehner came out lamenting the fact that the president will not negotiate. the president candidly admits he's not going to negotiate under threat. but john boehner restated his position. >> we sent four different proposals over to our december cat colleagues in the senate and they rejected all of they want. we have asked them to conference and sit down try to resolve our differences. they don't want to -- they will not negotiate. we had a nice conversation, a polite conversation, but at some

point we've got to allow the process that our founders gave us to work out. we have appointed people on the house side to sit down and work with our senate colleagues, it's time for them to appoint the same. all we are asking for here say discussion and fairness for the american people under obama care. >> reporter: democrats call that a ruus, they call it a sucker punch, they said that john boehner has already gotten his way. he's decided that he wants to get together with a house senate conference after the shutdown took place, it's too late. they won't negotiate under threat. harry reid and president obama, there is no daylight between them as a matter of fact, the president and the white house have left it to harry reid to carry this battle to decide on the tactics, standing firm refuse to go entertain any of the procedural motions or any of the alterations that the house has repeatedly sent the senate way, still we have this impasse, and harry reid spoke very harshly about house republicans

yet again. >> we said we'll be happy to talk about discretionary spending. we'll talk about agriculture. we'll talk about parks. we'll talk about health care. we'll talk about anything that you want to talk about. and he says no, all i want to do is go to conference on a short-term c.r. we have a debt ceiling staring us in the face and he wants to talk about a short-term c.r. i thought they were concerned about the long-term fiscal affairs of this country. and we said we are too. let's talk about it. my friend, john boehner, i repeat, cannot take yes for an answer. >> reporter: now, on thursday the president is going to talk his case public. he's going to visit a local construction company here in washington, d.c. and talk about the detrimental effects to the economy that the shutdown is having. doubtlessly going to be talking about the debt ceiling. of course that comes up on october 17 little. another impasse there. and many are saying that this --

the debt ceiling fight could make what we are doing here, what this shutdown is, in terms of its effect on the economy, it would pale in comparison to that fight coming up. white house in a statement after the meeting tonight reiterating that the president is not going to negotiate under threat from house republicans. back to you. >> mike viqueira there. much of what happens next depends on congressional republicans, but as libby casey reports from capitol hill, compromise is hard to find. >> reporter: the question everyone is asking is whether house republicans will be able to come up with a compromise solution. house speaker john boehner has a tough task ahead of him as he tries to bring together a broad caucus conservative tea party rememberepublicans, more moderae members, the moderate members would like to see the budget funded forward and live to fight another day and perhaps take the battle onto that over the debt limit that needs to be dealt with in mid october. the tea party members more

conservative republicans and some relatively new to congress say they are willing to fight on. at this point it doesn't seem clear how republicans can move a path forward unless they think big. and will get bigger fights coming up in the next couple of weeks. anything they propose at this point isn't of interest to senate democrats and president obama. meanwhile, fundraising has been a big fundraising push by both democrats and republicans using this fight over both the federal government funding and the federal health care law to bring in the dollars. and some conservatives are benefiting from this fight so that doesn't give them much of an insensitive to fold up their tents and go home. so watch where the fundraising dollars go in to and how they are getting some traction as we see how the fight over the federal budget continues in to the next day. >> libby casey report there. now, the cost of the shutdown is adding up quickly. more than $587 million, according to some estimates.

now that reflects 12 1/2 million dollars in lost rages and pro tuck test every hour, that's about $300 million a day. if the boost stays closed a week it could cost tax payers about $1.6 billion. the economic consulting firm ihs global insight crunched the numbers based on average federal salaries. the government accountability office sun able to fair vie the figures, that's because it's closed because of the shutdown. federal workers aren't the only employees being hurt by the deadlock and the gridlock in d.c. it is hurting businesss that indicator to the workers, that's especially in true in washington. >> reporter: federal jobs make up about 30% of all jobs in washington, d.c. and when furloughed federal workers don't show up at the office, they don't cross the street to eat. >> it's frustrating. especially for us, you know what i mean, it's not government where we work at, but still, if people doesn't come, you know what i mean, our job is slow. >> reporter: the lunch line at

cafe phillips usually winds out the door. but since the shutdown began, business here has dropped 90%. >> roast beef, what kind of bread? >> reporter: half the staff will stay home on thursday, more if the shutdown continues. the chamber of commerce told us it's too early to tell what effect the shutdown with have on the private sector across can the u.s., but here in the nations capital, businesses from deli to dry cleaners are already taking a big hit. while the government is shut, the washington region could lose $220 million a day in federal payroll. fewer federal employees leads to less traffic. that means fewer passengers for cab drivers. he says since monday, he's lost 40% of his business. >> at the end of the day when you go home, and there is not enough money in your pocket, of course you get worried. >> reporter: this gas station a few miles from capitol hill is usually packed at rush hour.

but the manager says business has fallen by 50%. >> if business hits like 50% you lose customers, that means, you know, we can't pay our rent. >> reporter: people like him hope lawmakers will reach ideal soon so customers will come back. but if the government shutdown lasts longer than a week, they fear they'll have to shutdown their businesses too. roxanne, al jazerra, washington. >> federal programs closed their doors nation wild, many of the country's most vulnerable people are struggling everyone more. andy gallagher takes a look at how the shutdown is impacting programs for it the homeless. >> reporter: for wendy dwyer volunteering at the hour house shelter for the working home s-ls a long-held ambition. >> hey, you, you will be on camera if you get in bed. >> reporter: she's a network of paid volunteers in a government funded anti-poverty program. that's now run out of cash. wendy's annual salary isn't much and she's already relying on

friends and family to help her stay here. like many in her position, she's worried about what will happen if she's forced to leave. >> meals wouldn't be served and children would not have the same day-to-day contact that they do that gives them stability. you know, things could change for the worse for the people who are most at risk. >> reporter: homeless shelters across the u.s. rely heavily on funding from the federal government to keep their doors open. for now, our house is solvent but will face serious problems the longer the partial shutdown goes on. >> this is hurting the least among us, this is hurting homeless families and their children, who are not going to have a meal, who are not going to have a safe space for their children to be so that they can work their way out of homelessness. >> reporter: across little rock, the effects of the partial shutdown are steadily being felt. and for local government official richard weiss, the message for politician politicin washington is simple.

>> quit playing games, get back to work and do what the people -- do what your constitutional responsibilities are. paille tension to what your oath of office is and follow it. ream simple. >> reporter: the fact that people here in little rock are frustrated won't come as a surprise, it's a feeling replicated across the entire country. but it's when you see the very real effects on those who depend on government programs to survive, that you begin to understand that emotion. while politicians squabble the needy and those that help them will soon begin to suffer. and for many that is simply unacceptable. andy gallagher, al jazerra, little rock, arkansas. >> the government shutdown has thousands of low income families scrambling to find day-care for their young children. the national head start association says some preschool centers are closing due to funding. the closure could effect 19,000 children out i've million en rolled in the program across the country, in addition to education, head start provides foofood and medical care.

many americans are run flag to problems as they try to sign up for exchange. both the federal and website and several state sites were overwhelmed with people trying to sign up. the government says it is working quickly to resolve the problems. the health care coverage doesn't take effect until january 1st, open enrollment end next march 31st. ♪ ♪ >> meteorologist: i am meteorologist rebecca stevens son. right now we are looking at a storm system we have been tracking which was a cluster of thunderstorms it became an area of low pressure and now we are watching it track up it's -- or was south of cuba, now tracking up towards the northern portion of the gulf of mexico through friday. and this storm is going to bring about three to five-inches of rain in to parts of louisiana and north florida so more rain coming where we are already

soggy. another storm in the pacific northwest is not just going to impact washington and oregon, it's going to hit california, nevada, wyoming, montana, and it's going to keep heading east as we get in to the next five to six days, now, this storm has got some cold air behind it. it's actually a front that you can see the back edge right along the back edge of that line of clouds. that's where the cold air starts pushing in. so first we get rain, for western washington, western oregon, changes over to snow, around 4500 to 5,000 feet in the washington cascades, winds pick up for california, in to nevada, and, boy, is it going to be windy. we are talking santa ana winds actually here for southern california which will gust 40 to 50 miles an hour. peak winds for the santa anas will be friday morning to saturday morning. now, as we start to talk winter weather, mountain snow coming down very heavy. wyoming is going to be looking at some heavy, wet snow in the valleys. so we'll have that plus some snow in the idaho mountains and in to central oregon

temperatures dipping down solo we have freeze warnings coming up for parts of northern california even. so chilly overnight. temperatures dropping for mid 50s, much cooler in the morning hours than yesterday. and the highs they will stay cool in the west as well. >> how the shutdown impacting programs that feed the hungry including soup kitchen to his meals on wheels. and the office end of the financial spectrum high-profile bankers meet with president obama and warn about what will happen if congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling. what happens when social media uncovers unheard, fascinating news stories? >>they share it on the stream. >>social media isn't an afterthought. it drives discussion across america. >>al jazeera america social media community, on tv and online. >>this is your outlet for those conversations. >>post, upload, and interact. >>every night, share

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>> welcome back. a terrible accident in tennessee involving a church bus, the bus blew a tire 20 miles northeast of knoxville, the bus crossed the medium and slammed in t slay big rig and turned over, 14 willed and 14 -- eight people killed and four own injured.

ceos of big banks met with president obama to discuss the debt ceiling. the nation's borrowing limit must be increased by october 17th if it's not the government could begin to defaulting on its bills. the bankers warn that would brad badly hurt the the economy's country. most vulnerable people are feeling the impact in very control ways, m melissa chance >> reporter: some of the mo poorest people. seniors entirely dependents on their social security checks and men and women fresh out of rehab and many are also homeless, a prolonged shutdown would impact these vulnerable groupings, some programs stopped effective immediately. and others with a few more weeks before they run out of money. at one of the city's busiest soup kitchens, people wonder about what they stands to lose. >> everyone in my particular area of living and lifestyle, we

are all nervous. we are all very nervous. >> this is just government assistance, they may not be able to provide services for their clients and these guys are trying it figure out how to check auto bomb a care, you know what i mean? it just doesn't make sense. it's very, very upsetting. >> reporter: the meal programs here will keep running it's not funded by the federal government. but here is the catch, there will be a domino effect from those who rely on federal assistance they'll now come here. meals on wheels and other food services for seniors could be forced to suspend services if the shutdown lasts not days but weeks. the department of ag agriculture now closed had programs with food banks across the country. those programs will stop. along with other meal services relying on federal funds. >> we see ourselves as kind of the hands below the safety net. so when that safety nets is stretched, as it will be if

the -- the shutdown continues, people will fall through that safety net and we will be there as much as we can to catch them. >> reporter: the kitchen has never turned way anyone for lack of food. but if hundreds more show up, the volume could be a problem. it's still early days, there is a lot of fear about what could happen, and that uncertainty can take its toll. in extra burden for this already tested population. melissa chan al jazerra, san francisco. >> it looks like the shutdown will not impact this weekend's formed forces college football games, according to several media reports the navy air force game and the army-boston college game are back on. the pentagon had suspended travel for intercollegiate athlete i objects but the funding for these games came from outside sources and did not have to be approved through congress. in addition to the government shutdown democrats in the house are also focusing on immigration reform. a bill proposed wednesday includes a path for citizenship for the 11 million undocumented

workers living in the u.s. it also tightens border security. minority leader nancy pelosi says that she is hopeful republicans anrepublicans and dn finally agree on immigration reform. so far house republican leaders have yet to act on bipartisan legislation passed by the senate in late june. fighting rager near damascus, at least 19 people have been killed there since monday. the fighting underscores the risks to inspectors. they are trying to find sites where they can continue their work on dismantling syria's chemical weapons. 20 children are still missing in the kenya mall attack the children and families were participating in the cooking competition in the mall when the violence broke out. meanwhile the president of kenya is warning after i swift and painful response to last month's attack on the mall in m nairobi. peter reports from somalia. >> reporter: this is the frontline of kenya's fight against al-shabab.

the bone dry and dusty expanse stretches out from the airport in somalia's for south. rebels ari few kilometers to the north of here, the one januaries have been dug in for just over a year, watching mostly and fending off al-shabab attacks. the militant are likely to win a direct attack against the heavy weapons but since they arrived the kenyans haven't pushed further never to al-shabab territory either. their offensive has stalled. history urges foreign armies to be cautious coming in to somalia. even if it's for humanitarian mission like the americans in the early '90s and the in 2006. if they come in too heart and cause civilian casualties, somalis banded together and drove them out. they crossed in in 20 learn after al-shabab first kidnapped

aid workers and then tourists. the idea was to push them away from the border and protect the homeland. but the west gate attack has raised questions about whether the plan is really working. >> our position in somalia has always been very clear, the country went to somalia because the al shoc al-shabab activitiea threat to our national security. that threat has not been eliminated and therefore we will not reconsider our position, it's been very clear that we will continue to take action on that front. until our security and interest in the country is protected. >> reporter: now in the wake of the west gate attack, the kenyan military is under intense pressure to go after al-shabab. but the group has changed. it's apparently less interested in fighting to hold its ground against the kenyans' big guns and heavy armor. >> they are not prepared to engage in any conventional war

anyways. they have decided to go underground and for the longer gain as opposed to a shorter gain. so even if the kdf today attacked al-shabab positions that would probably not have an impact on the al-shabab in the shorter term. >> reporter: as darkness falls the kenyans test their weapons. they are probing no man's land beyond the airport to see if anyone shoots back. tonight, there is no response. >> fire! >> reporter: al-shabab is holding its fire. peter, al jazerra in southern somalia. >> remembering tom clancy. a look back at the remarkable life and career of the best-selling author. ♪ ♪ the government shuts down and al jazeera america covers all of it. from washinton politics, to the real impact on you... >> there's harworking people that want to do their part..

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news stories? it drives discussion across america. share your story on tv and online. >> tom clancy the best-selling author of high-tech thrillers like the hunt for red october and patriot games has died. tom clancy -- tom ackerman looks

back at his remarkable life and career. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: tom clancy's novels read like action-packed movie scripts and many became just that. as well as best-selling video games. a former insurance salesman who never served in the military, clancy's first thrill he should the hunt for red october, was an instant success. its cold war plot like many of the books for follow pitted good guides, usually americans, gets their foes. >> this thing could park a couple of hundred warheads off washington. nobody would know a thing about it until it was all over. >> reporter: clancy's commands of high-tech warfare and spy craft was so detailed, that a secretary of the u.s. navy. once demand today know who had leaked him classified information. but clancy said it was spooky to learn that he had made up things that turned out to be real. clancy was a favorite of conservative political figures, and the feeling was mutual. >> i write about our people that believe in something.

people with a sense of duty. with a sense of mission. who want to make the world better in some way. >> reporter: his 25th and last book is scheduled for publication in december. tom ackerman, al jazerra. >> designers from dozens of countries have gathered in singapore for the work architecture festival. al jazerra's ron mcbride has a look at some of the buildings of tomorrow today. >> reporter: from the futuristically grand to the starkly simple, this festival brings together designs from all over the world. plus the people who created them. vying to be recognized as the world's best architects. along the way, the biggest annual gathering of its kind helped decide the shape and feel of the places in which we live, work, and spend our leisure time. >> it was like playing in a toy shop. the dial log and the interaction between architects and, yeah, architects getting up there and showing their stuff. >> reporter: and stuff of

incredible variety as illustrated by just one of the categories, hotels. from the boutique hotel in hong kong, short listed for its subtle integration with its gritty urban environment. to this offering from singapore, praised for its environmental achievement, of creating high rise green spaces. equivalent to double the land area the hotel occupies. >> in to the entire area you see there are recurring things as well as the lat i can work that reminds you of a bali resort. >> reporter: as the host city, sign singapore has its fair share of short listed nominations in a number of categories. symbolizing the growing importance of asia to the world's architects and builders. the convention complex in which the festival is being staged itself now one of the city's architectural icons. started in europe in 2008, this

festival moved to asia two years ago and there are no plans to go back. the event has grown there size and importance as more of the world's architects have focused their design talent on this region. >> architects trail activity following money which follows growth and, of course, what has happened in asia is the development of new cities, new buildings, new economies, as generating a terrific amount of activity of building of every description. >> reporter: a growing number of those design entries is coming from north america and europe, but increasingly the building of them is taking place in asia. rob mick good, a mcbride, al jaa singapore. >> those are stunning buildings, that will do it for this edition of al jazerra news. remember, news at the top of every hour. you can always log on as well to aljazerra.com for the latest headlines. thank you very much for watching. do keep it here.

hi, i'm lisa fletcher and you're in the stream. young adults can make or break the affordable care act. but are they buying in to health care reform? >> looking out -- we have a ton of community engagement on this. everybody oh is curious about obama care. how does this effect the generation. that's what we're going to dive in to. >> we actually have a poll. if you are eligible for the affordable care act.