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plus. >> 2013 nobel prize in physics to pre pro officers professor fs and. we hear about the particle boson discovery that won the nobel peace prize. and the steps toward a vaccine is closer. but first the global chemical weapons watchdog says that more inspectors are being sent to syria on the high-stakes mission to dese destroy it's pon gas. >> they are sending up to a hundred experts to end the violence. >> one of syria's many rebel groups mounts an assault on a

military base. 45 fighters are involved. their equipment is cobbled together and antiquated. but wit with their faith in good they continue on. >> i will give my house and my blood and my sons and for the health of the re revolution ande country and we are coming to you with the help of god. god is great. >> the rebels called this cannon a hell fire. it's made in mak makeshift facts and it's just as likely to backfire as it is to hit it's target. rebel groups have long comb complained they need more up-to-date weaponry. they send in warships and gun fighters to fight back. the battle lasts six hours and there is no real winner.

this is part of the battle for northern syria. to describe it as a stalemate is inaccurate. there is progress on another front. syrian state tv is key to show the regime is cooperating with the disarmament experts from the un and release this footage. the political campaign continues with media loyal to his regime printing that he is doing everything for syria to be strong. >> well under the un deal syria's chemical weapons must be accounted for and destroyed by mid 2014. russian president putin says they believe the time line will be met. it's not up to us to set the time line. we trus trust these people and russians and americans and the international community trust

these experts. the experts have earned the trust of the whole world. they say it's possible to zo dot in one year, then that's what it is. joining me live now is our correspondent. kristen a lot of pressure on the inspectors on the word of moon are carrying out an operation that has never been tried before. what do we they about their progress so far? >> the inspectors are on the ground working with the syrian government even as the u.n. works to finalize the formal structure for their mission. it's an unprecedented mission for the u.n. in that they are working in an active war zone. and they have moved in at such a fast pace. unusual for the united nations. we are seeing 3 35 weapons expes on the ground that have been meeting with the syrian government officals to discuss where their stock piles are. they have begun dismajorit disme

production equipment on syrian territory and the goal is to have that done, the deadline is to have that kind of equipment destroyed by the 1st of november. now the mission itself is still in the process of wrapping up. but secretary general moon says the inspectors will grow to a team of 100 working in a joint mission under the you you a u f the u.n. the plan is that moon will appoint a special coordinator to over see these teams they will be based in da mas dasmascus arl have a team in cypress. everything is moving forward at fast speed and we expect the approval to come soon. with these deadlines going

forward, so far the cooperation is reportedly good. all sides are saying the syrian government is cooperating and they are moving forward on schedule. >> we just heard there from the russian president. but what are other representatives at the u.n. saying about this mission to destroy 1,000 tons of chemical weapons by next year, are they optimistic? >> well, you hear from diplomats that it's the one bright spot in their dealings with syria over the last two-and-a-half years the international community has been divided on how to help quell the unrest in syria and what can be done to stop it. the one point of agreement has been the destruction of syria's chemical weapons and it's what the security council rallied around and found agreement own. so far we have not seen anything from the diplomats on how this

is, carried out. thank you. >> the u.s. o united states has released the first details the man that special forces tried to capture over the weekend. he is said to be a senior al shabab operative. he is active in neighboring kenya where dozens of people were killed when a shopping mall was attacked. andrew simmons reports. >> after the seige of west gate mall the retaliation and secrets of this attack. when special forces landed in somalia last friday there is one figure they tried and failed to get. ikrima and a leaked intelligence report he is linked to attacks in cance kenya. in october of 2 2011 he directea

grenade strike. it was in retaliation for kenyan forces for entering somalia. he is to have foiled planned attacks. a restaurant popular with government officals and the assassination of government officals. he has links to al qaeda operatives. both were involved in the u.s. embassy bombings targeting americans in kenya and tan ai tn tanzania. most of the energy of intelligence agency has been spent on finding out more on ikrima. not only seen as the master mind of this attack but the man that pulled together the al shabab and the kenyan group and what remained of al qaeda in east africa. together one potent mix.

late in the last decade large numbers of the group crossed the border in somalia to fight alongside of al shabab. some of them are expected of coming back. >> they have battle field expose youexposure and track and they e filtering back into this country. there is a lot to be done before this country is safe. >> after west gate mall it appears no one can rest easy. the people of kenya and expat expatiots living here. the u.s. has made it clear it will continue to try to target al shabab o operatives whenever and wherever the target is in sight. >> david schin is the former u.s. am bas ambassador and serva

diplomat across the african region. he joins me live from washington. the somali presidential spokesperson says he is happy with the operation because it is sends a message to al shabab. is that him saving face or are aal shabab feeling the pressure? >> well clearly the united states and the somali federal government would have preferred a different result. that is the capture. but that didn't happen. it still does send a message and it tells al shabab and it's leadership that it needs to be very alert because the same kind of raid could happen again somewhere else, it might be soon, it might be some months from now. >> before the attack on the shopping mall al shabab seemed to be losing steam. have resent events strengthened them. >> the attack on th on the shopg

mall raised their level. it may have resulted in more jihad recruitment and financing. in the lon long term what is it accomplishing in somalia. somalia? it's goal is to create a islam state. >> does it do anything for that? i don't think so. the killing of innocent women and children at a shopping mall is going to ingraishate the average person to somali. >> is it a desperate attempt at the embed o end of the day to be relevant, or noticed. >> desperate may be too strong of a word. it's an attempt to be noticed and to attract more support from the jihad community. it does under score their

relative weakness in somali itself. it may under cut them vis visa. >> does it give a car carte blae to carry out raids in other countries without as much scrutiny? >> well if you your question is directed specifically at somalia, it's my understanding that the somali federal government was aware of this raid in advance and approved of it. cooperation is very good between the somali sphos federal governt and the united states government and in countering terrorism and trying to build up somalie somai terrorist forces . i don't see the case for somali. >> if you are talking about other countries in the region libya is expressing deep concern. this is going to continue to be an issue and the united states

has to weigh how important is it tto retain to capture someone with the resul thought that it y result in a serious problem with the hea host government. i'm del walters live in new york city. we are interrupting our coverage of our sister station al jazeera english. we are awaiting word from president obama at the white house. he is going to talk about the debt ceiling debate. i'm joined with david shuster. as we await the president. your thoughts on the fact that this continues to drag out day after day after day. >> the white house sees far more economic consequence if the debt ceiling is not raised by october 17. the problem the government has is 38% of the americans according to the latest polls

think that not racin race raisit ceiling would not be good. they want to drive those numbers down and that way they can try to break the republicans in this debate. >> we have talked many times about this you being a political watcher in washington. they are watching the polls so close on this. and the polls are telling quite a tale. >> the polls are suggesting that the americans don't get it. every time the white house meets with financeers and bankers they are warned the sky is going to fall. we are going to have an economic problem if we don't raise the debt ceiling. the president has to educate why we can't afford the debt ceiling right now. >> here is the president of the united states, president obama. >> this morning i had a chance to speak with speaker boehner. i told him i was happy to talk

to him and other republicans about anything. not gis just issues i think are important, but also issues i thy think are important. i also told him that having such a conversation, talks negotiations should not require hanging in the threats of a government shutdown or economic chaos over the heads of the american people. think about it this way. the american people do not get to demand a ransom for doing their jobs. you don't get a chance to call your bank and say, i'm not going to pay my mortgage this month unless you throw in a new car or an xbox. if you are in negotiations around buying someone's house you don't get to say, well let's talk about the price i'm going to pay. and if you don't give me the price i will burn down your house. that is not how negotiations work. that is not how it happens in business and that is not how it happens in private life. in the same way members of

congress and the house republicans in particular don't get to demand ransom in exchange for doing their jobs. and two of their basic jobs are passing a budget and making sure that america is paying it's bills. they also don't get to say, unless you give me what the voters rejected in the last election, i'm going to cause a ha arecession. that is not how it works. no american president would deal with a foreign leader like this. most of you would not deal with either co-workers or business associates in this fashion and we shouldn't be dealing this way in washington. and you know i have heard republicans suggest, well, no, this is reasonable and entirely approacappropriate. as i said before imagine if a democratic congress threatened to down the government. i think it's fair to say that

republicans would not think that was appropriate. so, let's lift these threats from our families and our businesses and let's get down to work. it's not like this is a new position i'm taking here. i had speaker boehner and other leaders in just last week. either my chief of staff or i have had serious conversations on the budget with the republicans more than 20 times since march. we have been talking all kinds of business. well wwhat we haven't been ablet are serre just positions from -- serious positions from the republicans that would allow us to resolve core differences. they have decided to run out the clock until there is a government shutdown for the possibility of default, thinking that it would give them more leverage. that's not my characterzation. they have said it themselves. that was their strategy from the

start. and that is not how our government is supposed to run. it's not just me, by the way, who has taken the position that we are willing to have conversations about anything. senate democrats have asked to sit down with house republicans and hash out a budget but have been rejected by the house republicans 19 times. at the beginning of this year speaker boehner said what we want is regular order and a serious budget process. so, senate should pass a bill the house should pass a bill, and then a committee comes together and think hash out their differences and they send a bill to the president. that is whathat is exactly whate democrats did. but somewhere along the way the house republicans decided they wouldn't appoint people to a committee to negotiate. and 19 times they rejected that. so even after all of that the

democrats and the senate still passed a budget that reflects republican priorities just to keep the government open. and the house republicans couldn't do that either. the point is, i think, not only the white house but also democrats in the senate and the democrats in the house have shown more than ample willingness to talk about any issues that the republicans are concerned about. but, we can't do it if the entire basis of the republican strategy is we are going to shutdown the government, or cause economic chaos if we don't get 100% of what we want. my suggestion to the speaker has been and will continue to be, let's stop the excuses, let's take a vote in the house. let's end this shutdown right now. let's put people back to work. there are enough reasonable

republicans and democrats in the house that are willing to vote yes on a budget that the senate has already passed. that vote could take place today. the shutdown would be over. and then serious negotiations could proceed around every item in the budget. now, as soon as congress votes tto recope re-open the governmes a vote to pay our country's commitments and pay our bills and raise the debt ceiling. as reckless as the government shout ee shutdow -- shutdown thf america defaulting with be worse. i want to toc talk about this fa moment. there are still some people out there that don't believe that default is a real thing. we have been hearing that from some republicans in congress

that default would not be a big deal. so let me explain this. if congress refuses to raise what is called the debt ceiling america would not be able to meet our financial obligations for the first time in 225 years. and because it's called raising the debt ceiling, i think a lot of americans think it's raising our debt. it's not raising our debt. it does not add a dime to our debt. it simply says that you pay for what congress has already authorized america to purchase. whether that's the greatest military in the world or veterans be benefits or social security. whatever it is congress has already authorized. what it does is to make sure that we can pay those bills. the last time the tea party republicans flirted with the

idea of default, two years ago, markets plunged, business and consumer confidence plunged. america's credit rating was downgraded for the first time. and a decision to actually go through with it, to actually permit default, according to many ceo's and economists would be insane, ca catastrophic, chas warren buffett liked default to a nuclear bomb. a weapon too horrible to use. it would disrupt markets and under mine the world's confidence in america as the bedrock of global economy and would increase our borrowing cost. it would add to our deficit and debt, not decrease them. there is nothing fiscally

responsible about that. preventing this should be simple. raising thedebt ceiling is a lousy name which is why members of both parties don't like to vote on it. it makes you vulnerable in political campains. it does not increase our debt. it does not yo allow for a timef single increased spending. all it does is allow the treasury department to pay for what congress has already spent. but as i said, it's always a tough vote. people don't like doing it. it has been done 45 times since ronald reagan took office. nobody in the past has seriously threatened to breech the debt ceiling until the last two years. and this is the crowe credit worthiness of the united states we are talking about. this is our word. this is our good name. this is real. the government shut down

millions of americans face economic hardship in a shutdown. every american could see their 401k and mortgages fall. borrowing rise and there could be a risk of a deep recession. at a time where we are still climbing our way out of the worse recession in our life times. the american people have fought too hard and too long to come back from one crisis only to see a handful of more extreme republicans in the house of representatives to percipitate another one. now the good news is that over the past three and a half years the businesses have created seven and a half new jobs. the housing market is healing and since i took office the deficit is coming down faster than it has in many years. america is poised to be the number one energy producer in

the world this year. this year for the first time in a long time, we are producing more oil than we are importing. we have a lot of good things going for us. but the uncertainty has caused businesses to reconsider spending and hiring. you have seen consumer confidence plunge to the lowest level since 2008. have you seen morts mortgages hp by thousands of home buyers who are not sure of the economic situation out there. and all of this adds to the deficit, it doesn't subtract from it. we can't afford these manufactured crises every few months. and as i said, this one is not about deficits or spending or budgets. our deficits are falling at the fastest pace in 60 years. the budget that the senate passed is at republican spending levels. it's their budget. the democrats warned to put votes on to make sure that the government was open while

negotiations took place for a longer term budget. and what's happened and the way we have got to this point was, and one thing and one thing only that was public dismantling of the healthcare act and providing healthcare to millions of people. that law ironically is moving forward. most americans democrats and republicans agree that healthcare should not have anything to do with keeping the government open or paying our bills on time. that is why i will sit down and work with anyone of any party, not only to talk about the budget but i will talk about the ways to improve the healthcare system. i will talk about ways we can shrink our long term deficits. i also want to talk about how we are going to help the middle class and strengthen early childhood education and research and development. there are a lot of things i want to talk about to make sure that

everyone is getting a fair shake in this economy. and our economy is growing in a broad base and in the middle class. by the way if anyone doubles my sincerity about that i have put forward proposals in my budget and to reform the loop holes for covecuecorporations and help uso invest into new jobs and lo ther the defendant. ee sit. difficult sit. -- deficit. i have shown myself to be willing to go halfway. if the reasonable republicans want to talk about these things i will head up to the hille hilt and try. and i will spring for dinner again i will not do it until the more extreme parts of the republican party stop forcing john boehner to issue threats

about our economy. we can't make extortion routine as part of our democracy. democracy doesn't function and this is not just for me it's also for my successes or in office. whatever party they are from they shouldn't have to pay ransom for the government doing their job. already this week i had to miss critical meetings in area to promote america jobs and businesses. and as long as we get this fixed that is not long term damage. whenever we do these things, it hurts our credibility around the world. and it makes it look like we don't have our act together. and that is not something that we should welcome. the greatest nation on earth shouldn't have to get permission from few irresponsible members of congress every few months to keep our government open or prevent an economic catastrophe.

let's pass the budget and end the government shutdown and pay our bills and avert a economic shutdown and stop the gimmicks and put aside what is good for any particular party and let's focus on what is good for the american people. we have work to do. with that i will take questions. >> if congress does pass a clean cr and debt ceiling bill that may be short term americ measur. >> if that happens does your offer to negotiate with them in the next weeks. >> absolutely. what i have said is i will talk about anything. , what will happen is we won't agree on everything. i mean the truth is that the parties are pretty divided on a whole big bunch of issues right now.

everybody understands that. voters are divided on a lot of those issues too. i recognize that there are some house members, republican house members where i got clobbered in the last election. and you know, they don't get politically rewarded a lot for being seen as negotiating with me. and that makes it harder for divided government to come together. but i am willing to work through all of those issues, the only thing that our democracy can't afford, is a situation where one side says, unless i get my way, and only my way s. unles. unless i get concessions before we even start to have a serious give and take, i will threaten to shutdown the government or then tthreaten not to pay ameris

bills. i will not eliminate any topic of conversation and i have shown myself willing to engage all of the parties involved every lead iron any issue. >> and that applies no matter how long the time frame is on the two bills they would pass? >> the only thing i will say is that we are not going to pay a ransom for america paying it's bills. that is something that should be non-negotiatable and everybody should agree on that. everybody should say that one. most valuable things that we have is america's credit worthiness. this is not something that we should even come close to fooling around with. and so when i read people saying, how this wouldn't be a big deal we should test it out. let's take default out for a spin and see how it rides. and i say, imagine in your

private life if you decided that i'm not going to pay my mortgage for a month or two. first of all you are not saving money by not paying your mortgage, you are just a dead beat. and you can anticipate that will hurt your credit which means that in addition to debt collectors calling, you will have trouble borrowing in the future and if you are able to borrow in the future you low have to borrow at a higher rate. what is true for individuals is true for nations even the most powerful nation on earth. if we are creating an atmosphere in which people are not sure whether or not we pay our bills on time, that will have a severe long term impact ou ou on our ey and on america's standard of

living. and that is not something that we should be in a conversation about. that is not something that we should be using as leverage. okay. julie-anna. >> thank you mr. president. >> you raise the consequences of defawltd andefaldo anddefawltdeo that point, rather than social security recipients. how would you go ahead and make that determination? >> um, i am -- i am going to continue to be very hopeful that congress does not put us in that position. and i think if people understand what the consequences are, they will set that potential scenario aside.

i do know there have been some that have said if we pay bond holders and people that have bought treasury bills we won't be in default because the interest payments will be made. to them i remind them we have other obligations other than treasury bills we are senior sit citizens who are accounting on their benefits to arrive on time. we have companies that are doing business for the government and that have payrolls that need to be met. in they don't make payroll they will have to layoff workers. all of those are affected if we don't pay our bills on time. if the market says we are not paying bills on dim time that wl

affect our credit worthiness. >> to boil this down to personal examples. if you have a mortgage and car neat annote and student loan yoe to pay. you say i am going to pay my mortgage and not my student loan and car note. that is going to affect your credit u everyon. they are gieing t going to lookt and say i'm not sure this person is worthy. they will have to pay a higher interest rate. we are exploring all contingencies. the second of the treasury will appear before congress on thursday and he can address some of the additional details about this. but let me be clear, no option is good in that scenario.

ithere is no silver bullet or magic wand that allows us to whisk away the chaos that will result from us not paying our bills on time. when i hear people downplaying the consequences of that it's irresponsible. i will speak to any of them and walk them through why it's irresponsible. it's particularly funny coming from republicans who claim to be champions of business. there is no businessperson out here that doesn't think this would be a big deal. not one. you go from wall street to main street and ask a ceo of a company or ask a small businessperson whether it would be a big deal that the united states government as is not payg their bills on time. thougthey would tell you it's ag deal.

it would hurt. it's unnecessary that is a part of it. it's not a complicated piece of business. and there is no reason why if, in fact, the republicans are serre just abouserious about wao negotiate or wanting to have a conversation or talk, there is no reason why you have to have that threat looming over the conversations thin. think about it, the only reason the republicans have held out on negotiations up until the last week or so, they thought it was a big enough deal they would force unilateral concessions out of democrats and out of me. they said so. they basically said, you know what, the president is so responsible that if we just hold our bret breath and say, we areg to threaten default he will give us anything we want. that is not my account of the

situation. you can read statements of republicans over the last several months of who said this explicitly. for them to say now it wouldn't be a big deal if it happens, that's not how they have been acting over the last couple of months. if it's not a big deal, why would i give them concessions now to avoid it. it is a big deal. no one should get concessions to ensure that the full faith and credit of the united states is retained. sam stein. >> thank you mr. speaker. what instance can you give to those who are affected by a thoughshutdown and how worried u personally tha that it may do hm to the nation's economy and your second term agenda. >> sam, you are making a good point which is what we are

asking of the republicans right now is to keep the government open at a funding level that democrats think are very harmful to the economy and in adequate to make sure that the economy is growing faster and more people are put back to work and the economy is growing. we are willing to pass at least a short term budget that opens up the government at current funding levels. >> it doesn't even address the harm that has been done 'cause - because of see ques see se sequ. to we are funding programs that'thathave been really hard s

year. we recognize that there are going to have to be compromises between the democrat position and the republican position. and in the meantime we shouldn't hurt the economy even worse by shutting down the government. let me give you an example. , because of the meat cleaver cuts that have taken place over the course of this year, thousands of families have lost head start slots for their children. you have had parents across the country who have been scrambling trying to figure out how can i find some decent quality child care for my kids. the government shutdown means several thousand more are going to be losing their slowtsz slot. if we vote today or tomorrow to

re-open the u.s. government, at least those people will be spared the difficulty of trying to scramble and figure out where your kid is going to be while you try to go to work. but it doesn't solve the broader problems zblanchtd i. and if we had bi real negotiati. let's solve the bigger problem. what we are saying is don't hurt more people while we are trying to resolve these difference he is let's make sure that we keep the lights on while we are having these conversations. do you support back pay for furloughed employees. >> you talked a bit about the hit to credibility around the world that this impact has caused. i'm wondering what you and the administration are telling the

foreign creditors china and japan that are calling and ask whether the united states is going to avoid defaulting on it's debt. >> well i won't disclose any specific conversations, but my message to the world is that the o haunited states has always pad it's bills and it will do so again.. i think they are not looking at what i say, but they are looking at what congress does. and that is url ultimately up to speaker ba boehner. we are not going to calm creditors until they see speaker boehner call up a bill that authorizes the treasury to pay bills on time. until they see that there is going to be a cloud over u i u.s. economic credibility. but it's not one from which we cannot recover.

we have been through this before. every country and every democracy in particular has tussles over the budget. what you haven't seen before, i think from the vantage point of world leaders is the notion that one party in congress may glow w the whole thing up if they don't get their way. they haven't seen that before. that does make them nervous particularly what happened in 20 he 1. 2011. we have been here before the assumption was that the americans must have learned their lesson. there would be budget conflicts but nobody again would thrown ththreatenthe pablght possibilid default. and when they here republicans and members of congress that

defaulting wouldn't be that bad it makes them nervous. it makes me 234er have us. nervous it makes the american people nervous. that is out of deutc touch with reality. it's based on a flawed analysis on how our economy works. you cannot pay some bills and not the oarg others and think tt the fact you are paying some bills protects you from credit worthiness that is not how it works in every day life. and it's not how it works with the american government. >> we have used our emergency powers. we have used extraordinary measures to keep paying our billings over the last several months. but at souther at a certain poie emergency numbers run out and the clock is tick being. ticking.

i do worry that the republicans and some democrats may think we have a bunch of other rabbits in our hat. there comes a point in which the treasury cannot hold auctions to sell treasury bills, we do not have enough money coming in to pay alpay all of our bills on t. it's straight-forward. i know there are discussions about my powers under the 14th amendment to go ahead and ignore the debt ceiling, well setting aside the legal analysis, what matters is if you start having a situation in which there is legal controversy about the u.s. terrotreasury's authority to ree debt. there would be damage done. it will be tied up in litigation for a long time.

that will make people nervous a lot of strategies that the people have talked about. the president can roll out a big coin, or he can resort to some other constitutional measure, what people ignore is ultimately is what matters is what are the people who are buying treasury bills think? and again, i will boil it down in very personal terms. if you are buying a house and you are not sure whether the seller has title to the house, you are going to be pretty nervous about buying it. and at minimum, you would want a much cheaper price to buy that house, because you wouldn't be sure whether or not you will own it at the end. most of us would walk away. no matter how much we like the house we say to ourselves the last thing i want to find out after i bought it i don't

actually own it. the same thing is true if i am buying treasury bills from the u.s. government. and here i am sitting what if there is a supreme court case deciding that these are not valid. these are not valid legal instruments, obligating the u.s. government to pay me. i'm going to be supressed. which means i may not purchase them and if i do purchase them i may ask for a big premium. there are no magic bullets here. and there is one way to do it, that is congress voting. there are votes i believe to go ahead to take this drama off the table should at least be tested. speaker boehner keeps on saying he doesn't have the votes for it. what i have said e. put them on the floor and see what happens.

at minimum let every member of congress be on record. let them vote to keep the government open or not. and they can determine where they stand and defend that vote to the american constituency and let them vote on whether america should pay their bills or not. >> an and if these folks believe it's not a big deal they can vote no. and if that fails and we default. voters can determine who can exactly pay their bills. >> you mentioned the supreme court and the course came where citizens united left off. you call citizens united devastating to the public interest. i wonder if you could comment on

the latest case. >> the latest case goes beyond citizens united. there are kno no rules on how to finance cam pances. cam -- campains. there are not a lot of functioning democracies that can function this way. where you have millio millionaid billionaires bank rolling whoever they want and in some cases undisclosed. and what it means is ordinary americans are shut ous shutout e process. i had to raise a lot of money for my campaign. so i there is nobody that operates in pol politics that hs clean hands in this issue. all of us should bind ourselves to rules that say, the people

that vote for us should be more important than somebody that is spending a million dollars or ten million dollars to help us get elected. we don't know what their again s are and i believe that citizens united contributed to some of the problems we are having in washington right now. you have an extremist who has a big bank roll think can entirely skew our politics. i know our positionings ar posie unreasonable, but we are scared if we don't go along with the tea party that we'll be challenged from the right. and the threats are very explicit. and they so tow the line. >> that is part of why we have seen the breakdown of normal

routine business done here in we shall on behalf of the american people. and all of you know it. i'm not telling you anything you don't know. it's explicit. you report on it. the big chunk of the republican party are in districts where there is no competition and those folks are much more worried about a tea party challenger than they are about a general election where they have to compete against a democrat or go after independent votes. and in that environment e it's a lot harder for them to com compromise. >> thank you mr. president. this week the president of china has visited several asian countries that you were going to visit but had to skip because of

the shutdown. he has taken a role at boat at h summits. and does china benefit from the chaos in washington? and more broadly, you have said in general this hurts the represenreputation of the unites overseas. are there specific things you can't point to where you have already seen some damage? and one ow that occurs to me ise trade deal in asia. the federal say they want to wrap it up but they no longer want to wrap it up at the end of the year. had you been there do you think you could have gotten that additional push? >> i think it's a great example, we don't know but it didn't help i wasn't there. to make sure we would open up a trade deal and create markets for the united states. and make sure that countries were trading fairly with us in

the most dynamic and fast efltdt growing market in the world. i should have been there. i can tell you, because i had to apologize to some of the most -t countries, they understood the most important thing i can do for them and the most important thing i can do for the bilateral relatiorelationship and americas reputation is to ensure that we re-open the government and don't defawltd. -- default. i don't think it will have ever lasting damage. if we deal with this the way we should, the folks around the world will attribute this to the usual messy process of american democracy but it doesn't do lasting damage. in the short term, i would characterize it as missed opportunities. we continue to be the one

indispensable nation. there are countries across asia who have welcomed our pivot outy want to do business with us. they admire our economy, they admire our entrepreneurs. they know their growth is going to be contingent on working with us they care about the security environment that we have maintained and helped maintained and freedom of navigation and commerce that is so important to them. it's not as if they have other places to go, they want us to be there and they want to work with us. but you know, in each of these big mee meetings we have arounde world a lot of business gets done. the same way a kr-678 ceo of a y if they are going to close a deal are not going to do it by

phone. they want to show up and look eye to eye and shake hands on the deal the same thing is true with the respect of the world leaders. our teams do more to organization the multilateral forums and set the agenda more than anybody. we are engaged more than china for example in setting the example and moving the stuff forward. >> it's like me not showing up at my own party. i think it creates a sense of concern on the part of other leaders but as long as we get through this they'll understand it. and they'll, i believe, get these deals done. the last point i make is, we can't do it every three months. back in the 90s we had a government shutdown. and that happened on one time ad then after that, the republican

party and mr. gingrich realized this is not a sensible way to do business. we shouldn't engage in brinksman, ship like this. they they talked to president clinton and they got the things they wanted. they had to give the democrats the things that the democrats wanted. but it took on a sense of normal democratic process. so here we already went through this once in 2011. and then last year right after my election we went through system similar about the fiscal clip. the republicans wouldn't negotiate about taxes, the fact that the taxes went up anyway even though they refused to negotiate. they could have gotten some

things from us that they wanted if they had been willing to negotiate. we have to stop repeating this pattern. i know the american people are tired. i apologize you have to go through this stuff every three months it seems like. and lord knows i'm tired of it. but at some point we have to kind of break these habits and get back to the point where everybody understands that in ghoasgoish yagsesnegotiations td take and you don't hold people hostage or ask ransom for them so you can get your way. you don't suggest that a healthcare bill you don't agree with is destroying the public or

a grand social scheme. if you disagree with certain aspects of it tell us what you disagree about and let's work on it. if you are concerned about longg term debt that is a good thing to be concerned about. don't suggest that america is going bankrupt. that is what the american people expect, civility, common sense, give and take, com compromise, e are not dirty words. there is nothing wrong with them. and i think the american people will understand, i may, i have flaws. michelle will tell you. >> one of them is that i'm not unwilling to compromise. i have been willing to compromise my entire political career. i don't believe i have the

answers to everything, and it's my way or the he. but i'm not going to breech a basic princple that will weaken congress and basic democracy in order to just i go along with what the republicans are talking about. is. i want to ask about china and what it extends their loss our gain. >> i'm sure that the chinese don't mind that i'm not right now. in the sense that there are areas where we have differences and they can present their point of view and not get as much of a push back if i were. although secretary of state kerry is there and i'm sure he is doing a great job. i have also said that our

cooperation with china is not a zero sum game. there are a lot of air why is ae the chinese and we agree. we are trying to raise standards for inte interintellectual prop. if we can get an agreement where you have to protect people's inteinterintellectual property. >> what legal liabilities what is the legal advice that foreign creditors have to be paid first? >> richard i'm going to let the second of treasury make a formal presentation on thursday