helicopter. i am thomas drayton live in new york. here are some the top stories we are following at this hour. negotiations but no agreement. >> that's the latest word from lawmakers sparring over the government shutdown and the debt limit. several international red cross workers have been kidnapped in syria as they headed back to the capitol from an aid mission. plus, close to 100 pilgrims are dead after a stampede during a religious festival in india. the latest in drone technology is being showcased at a conference in new york. we look at the controversy surrounding their use.

good to have you with us. with the house of representatives taking the day off, today's attempts to end the government shutdown and raise the debt ceiling are focused in the senate. the two sides remain far apart. senators have spent the day laying out their positions, both on the floor and in talks behind closed doors. there has been talks of a short-term increase in the debt ceiling, which the country is scheduled to hit on thursday, october 17th. but a white house statement issued after president obama spoke by phone with house minority leader nancy pelosi praised her efforts to pass a one-year increase hinting that the administration may reject any attempt to fix the problem for only a few weeks or months. john terrett following the process from capitol hill. there seems to be a lot of talking but very little action. what actually went on this

weekend? any progress? >> reporter: there has been some progress, but it's pretty miniscule. it's kind of tough to find. we know, for example, harry reid and mitch mcconnell are talked talking. we know that that is going on. based upon what's happened in the past and recent senate history, that's got to be a good thing. we also know that the susan collins of maine plan is still out there. that's the one that would extend the debt ceiling until the 31st of january and also require some amendments to the obamacare plan, so-called affordable care act. we know that that's all going on. mitch mcconnell suggested some democrats, enough democrats, i think, he suggested to make that workable. five of them hit back within the last hour or so saying you don't have our support. so really the big story at the moment is that the senate met between 1:00 and 4:45. the session was full of senators coming to the mic phone to make their point, to have their say, including a raft of republicans who were trying to get out from

under the stone of publicity that they were under yesterday which was really a democratic day. the republicans came to make their point today. the session was gun and ended with minority leader harry reid. they met and spoke by telephone this afternoon. defense apparentlydoredial and harry reid referenced it as the senate closed for business today at 4:45 eastern. take a look. >> i have had a productive conversation with republican leader this afternoon. our discussions were substantive. and we will continue those discussions. i am optimistic about the prospect for a positive conclusion, the issue before this country today. >> with that, the senate wrapped up for the day. both houses will be back tomorrow, monday, even though it's a columbus day holiday. the house at midday. the senate at 2:00 o'clock. jo tom? >> you have seen the numbers with all of this back and forth. who will are americans blaming for this shutdown and potential economic crisis. >> the poll everything is talking about today is one

published by nbc and the wall street journal. it appears to have come out a couple of days ago but making news today. this one blames according to those who were asked, the republicans to the tune of 53% and the president 31%, a 22 point margin in the president's favor. we know the republicans have been hoping to get more candidates into the senate in the mid-term elections coming p up, up in november. that has got to be a little bit in doubt. i think i understand that that is the view they are now taking. they realize that's going to be a very uphill battle when it comes to the mid terms which are in november, 2014. campaign gets underway in earnest in january. lots of blame to go around. that was the theme snatched upon by the 7io senator from wyoming, michael enzy who spoke on the floor, who said both parties have a lot of blame to shoulder. >> we went to the white house the other day, and the president

did a marvelous job of going through a speech and then questions and answers. i was very disappointed at the end because the end speech was: give me what i want for the shutdown in government. give me what i want for the debt limit increase, and then we can talk. the reason we are talking is because we have the government shut down and we have this looming debt ceiling problem. there ought to be other ways that we can talk. but we don't. and so, like i say, there is plenty of -- plenty of blame to go around. >> the theme. you have the two issues here. you have the shutdown and debt ceiling that needs to be raised by thursday. the debt ceiling is by far the greater issue. they are going to have to get something on the table by wednesday because if they pass something in the senate, it will have to go to the house. if the house and it, it will have to go back to the senate. you have to have something in writing by wednesday at the latest, tom. >> they have a lot of work ahead.

in fact, that poll you referenced, 60% of americans say they would vote every one out of congress but let's talk about the bottom line here. what will happen if the budget issues are not resolved by the default deadline, october 17th. >> the government shut doyne, ongoing, the greater issue is debt ceiling which needs to be raised. if it's not raised, the government simply runs out of money and we have jack lew, the treasury secretary saying at the back end of last weekly, if you don't do this we will have $30,000,000,000 in the pot. that's not enough to run the government. no congress has ever failed to raise the debt ceiling. now, some politicians feel if the debt ceiling isn't raised, jack lew can just go on creatively spending by pry prioritizing spending. the government will have some money coming in through but economists the world over are saying no, no, no. there will be plenty of people who will not receive unemployment checks, social

security checks, that sort of thing. the worse is if the u.s. doesn't pay its interest on the debts, on the loans that it has, it has length money to countries and -- companies all the way around the world. if they don't get those interest payments, there is a lack of trust, a loss of trust. that could lead, say, economists to some kind of global meltdown very, very quickly. it's very dangerous tom. >> more updates when they come in, john. thank you. war veterans in washington sent a very clear mention to lawmakers on both sides of the aisle this morning. thousands showed up to rally. organizers of the quote million vet mercier veterans have been dishonored. they are wanting to prevent any member of government from closing memorials except for maintenance periods. >> the international red cross says there has been no contact with gunmen who coom.

>> a speaks person in syria said the relief team had six red cross aid workers and one local volunteer. more from al jazeera's omar a omar al sala. >> we understand that the staff members as well as the syrian arab red crescent volunteer were kidnapped when they were running back to damascus after spending three days in the proof ince. they were assessing the medical needs and providing medical supplies to doctors in that area. now, according to syrian act visits, they do believe that the islamic state in iraq affiliated group is behind the kidnapping of the icrc's staff. now, there hasn't' been any claim of responsibility from that particular group, but this is what syrian activists do

believe. now, in another piece of information that we have been gathering, the nationalities of those kidnapped are not revealed by the icrc, but information coming from activists do suggest that they are deck -- some of them are arab nationals as well as foreigners. >> two suicide car bombs went off in syria. the blast we want off in downtown damascus near the state television and radio headquarters. according to state media, there were no casualties reported from the explosions. syrian television showed footage of what appeared to be vehicles, a fire engine and i am alexander from inside a nearby building where windows had been blown out. also, in syria, more evacuees from the war-torn region. about 3500 people were allowed to leave an area right outside damascus this evening. it's a region that has undergone weeks of fighting over the last few months. so far, more than two million refugees have blood fled their homelands.

at least 89 people have died in a stampede during a religious festival in india. banu batanagir reports >> reporter: some of these pilgrims had been fasting for the past nine days. on the 10th day, they went to pay their respect to the hindu goddess derga. thousands of people tried to cross abridge. witnesses said rumors spread it was collapsing. that caused a stampede that killed dozens. it happened in the district in central india. the stampede started on a bridge over the sind river. a number were record to have jumped in the water. they were trying to get to the temple on the other side. people across india are marking tesera, one of the most important festivals in the hindu calendar. crowd control is a persistent challenge, especially during religious festivals.

millions of people on india's eastern coastline are recovering from a storm, for saphailiin. 17 people have died and hundreds of millions of dollars in crops were lost. authorities say the death toll would have been far higher but hundreds of thousands were successfully evaluated before the storm hit. for the latest on phaili nuchlt and other systems beginning to brew, let's bring in rebecca stevenson. >> we have had a significant amount of rainfall if phailin. one city inland from the coast, we are seeing 12.4 inches of rainfall reported there. other cities, anywhere from five inches up to eight inches of rainfall just inlands from the coast. as the coast is farther inland, we saw higher amounts. as this moisture and wind rides up into the mountains, it's giving an extra lift squeezing out extra moisture from the

tropical system. we are now looking for the continuation of blooding and d mudslides on these steep slopes. we are watching one, nari, is tracking out of the philippines where it caused a lot of damage, a lot of flooding, heavy rain, headed towards denag vietnam. the actual lappedfall is not expected to be near danang or the eye wall is not going to move in for that city gu it is expected to be within the vicinity as it tracks toward vietnam we are looking at the path that the warning center is putting out just south of the city of hew. this will bring added insult to vietnam because they have had an exceptional amount of rainfall. zap also concern about a large typhoon headed your way. more coming up. >> coming up next on al jazeera america, a gun show in new york welcomes a special visitors who, herself, was a shooting victim and is a staunch gun control

advocate. drone technology is not just about airstrikes on foreign soil. yes look at some of the ways it could impact people's lives right here.

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some kid in a basement. how do you allocate responsibility among, you know, the person who owns the drone and person who writes the software where bones are on the line instead of just bits. >> legal concerns come as more and more drones take flight in civilian air space. for example, the issue of drones mounted with cameras, whether used by law enforcement or journalists is launching worries about privacy. we spoke with misty cummings, an associate professor at mit who began research in drones on active duty as one of the navy's first female fighter pilots. she told us drones often do a more effective job on certain tasks than people. >> i think there is a really innate fear that humans have that somehow, the world around us is changing rapidly by machines. so i think it's important to recognize people feel uncomfortable as technology starts to push forward in ways we have never seen before. there is no argument that drones

in lots of access like crop dusting, they are far superior and can beat human capabilities. >> as the use of drones grows, many starts are considering or have already passed legislation regulate them. according to the aclu, drone legislation has been proposed in 42 states and enacted in eight shown here in red. it's still under consideration in six states, the ones shown here in greene. the aclu recommends legal limits on how drones can be used and whether they can be armed. in many of the state bills reflect those concerns. these states' bills require problem a lot about cause warrants before law enforcement agencies can use a drone. in some states, they require a law enforcement agencies to report drone use to the legislature. some have taken steps to ban the possibility of arming drones. amy sptepanovich joins us. good to have you with us >> thank you for having me.

>> you heard what professor cummings had to say about the drones and the capabilities. do you agree with her it's a more effective approach >> i definitely agree with her that the capabilities for drones far out just are so much more expanded than what people have. >> that's the reason we are concerned is because technology, surveillance technology makes everybody's information incredibly vulnerable and drones are just the next extension of that vulnerability. >> we talked about the legislation. how important is this drone legislation? >> absolutely vital. when you think about technology, it's just getting more and more advanced and the only way to stop what the technology can do, what information it can collect is going to be through legislation. for example you don't want law enforcement to be able to put a drone over the city square and track somebody's every day movements whether they go to the doctor or the psychiatrist or the dentist, to the school. these are all very personal details about a person it can

paint a picture of somebody's life. that should be limited. >> more and more states are enacting these type of legislation. is it enough? does it go far enough? >> you want to make sure legislation confronts all of the different uses of drones. so a lot of the different states have enacted and looked at law enforcement and government uses of drones. we want to make sure they are addressing commercial uses and individual uses if somebody can use them to stalk or har as somebody else, these are huge issues of wern which you look at this technology. the fact you can buy a drone for $300. >> this drone technology certainly isn't new. looking acin the past 10 years, how far have we come? is it making our lives easier or safer, i should say? >> not yet. >> no? >> by 2015, we are actually expected to see some of the first commercial uses of drones in the u.s. they are not allowed to be used right now. at that time, you can see that they are going to make things easier. they are going to making a culture a lot easier, tracking

environmental abuses, maybe monitoring forest fires. those are uses we aren't all that concerned about. we are only looking at when they are used to collect personal information about individuals sand what limits we need to put on that. >> why are so many americans uncomfortable with this >> it embodies something in physical form something we have been increasingly aware of for a long time which is how often we are tracked and how much information is collected about us. so this happens and we carry around our cell phones and our information is collected when we are on the internet and advertising companies track us from site to cite to site. they start painting this picture about us. drones put that surveillance up in the air over our head where we can see it. people have a vis real reaction to that. >> do you think the recent revelation by the nsa and it's program has caused greater concerns among americans? >> i have seen an increased somewayness of privacy issues which is fantastic. people are now aware of what the government is collecting about

them. we are hope that interest continues to grow because the problem isn't going away in the drone program in the united states, i see dangers if it isn't limited. you are not going to be able to perceive right now: there are no prohibitions on arming drones. commercial entities can put tazers, guns, rubber bullets, so the danger is not only in sufveillance issues but real physical life-threatening danger. >> expanding technology. amy thanks nor joining us. appreciate your time. former congresswoman gabrielle giffords and her husband, mark kelly attended a gun show in upstate new york. >> now is the time to come together. >> giffords was showing her support for an agreement worked

out between new york state and gun show sponsors. the state now tracks gun sales and enforces background checks at the events. giffords was joined by new york attorney general eric snyderman who championed the agreement. she was critically injured in a tucson shooting where six people were killed and 13 others injured. >> talks resuming between the san francisco bay area transit system and its unions. without an agreement, transit workers will walk off a job at midnight tonight. they are asking for better benefits and a 12% pay increase. transit workers walked off the job in a strike this july. governor jerry brown ordered them back to work but since then, they have been working without a contract. the strike would shut down the nation's fifth largest rail system and force thousands of commuters to find another way to work. it is being called a medical turning point. brittib researchers say they have achieved a break through that could lead to a revolution in the treatment of brain

disorders like parkinson's andalsaland alzheimer's. >> taylor describes his parkinson's as like an unwanted guest. it was diagnosed in 1998 after his hands stopped working so well. >> i went in to a free fall, a kind of digging into the past and wondering what caused it. sixteen years on and his symptoms have developed and bob's learned not to second-guess them >> you can't really take anything for granted. the condition changes days by day, mower by hour, minute by minute, depending upon stress, anxiety, whether or not your medication is working. they all play their part. no two days are the same. no two people with parkinson's are the same either. >> understanding the puzzle

posed by neurodegenerative diseases such as parkinson's and alzheimer's is a huge challenge. scientists at the university of lester in the u.k. are hailing what they are calling a turning point. they have been looking at the root causes of such condition of abnormally shaped proteins that develop in the brain. when they appear, the bottdy ofn reap acts by killing off nerve cells in the affected area leaving the person with loss of memory and function. they have shown by giving experimental drug, they can stop the body from attacking brain cells. at the moment, this has only been achieved in myself. human clinical trials are five to 10 years off at least. campaigners are watching closely. >> i think it's important that we are talking about this important scientific finding but we must bear in mind it could be a long time before we get any succe success. and we know this is difficult. unfortunately, many attempts do fail on the way. we have a long way to go still i

am afraid >> the novas give hope to many people living with diseases like the one bob has. >> hope is the biggest ally you have got. without that, you've got nothing. laurie talens, al jazeera. another exciting sunday in the sports world. darren hayes. >> that's right. after the detroit tigers took game 1. the boston red sox have their hands full again tonight in game 2 of the american league championship series. the tigers are going to send mac scherzers to the mound. he comes in with the most regular season wins in the majors. they wi they will be counterred with bucholtz who is not too shabby himself, finishing with 1 loss this year, first pitch in boston at 8 eastern standard time.

>> kansas city chiefs remain unbeaten with a 24/7 victories over the raiders. they piled up 10 sack did while ending a 6-game losing streak. kansas city 6 and 0 record is the second best start in franchise history. pittsburgh steelers get their first win defeating the jets, 19-6 today. seaned for 13 of the 19 points, 4 for 4 in field goals. benth roethlisberger threw 264 yards on 23 of 30 passing plus this 55 yard touchdown to emanuel sanders. the jets have their first loss at home this season. >> that's a look at your sports headlines at this hour. i am darren haynes. >> darren, thank you. native americans are gathering for that are their annual convention. from healthcare to climate change, we look at some of the issues facing some of the most marginalized communities in the

u.s. it's the largest gathering of muslims in the world. we look at the significance of the hage and some of the challenges of the events. on august 20th,

welcome back to al jazeera america. i am thomas drayton. still no word from gunmen who kidnapped international red cross workers in syria. six aides and a local volunteer were seized this morning. officials believe the kid nappers were from an al-qaeda-linked group. 89 people are dead after a stampede in india. hindu pilgrims were on their way to a remote temple in dadia province. a bridge thousands were trying to cross. >> the senate has adjourned with no deal to end the government shutdown. democrats and republicans remain far apart. there has been term of a short term increase in the debt ceiling which the country is scheduled to hit on thursday.

is a number of national pashlingdz and mon huntsman have been re-opened to the public. it's not the federal public behind the openings. states are footing the bill. the statue of liberty re-opened after being closed nearly two weeks. it will cost new york more than $60,000 per day too keep lady liberty operating. mount rush more is open again. south dakota will pay about $15,000 per day for expenses. in arizona, the grand canyon has re-open re-opened. the state has griered to pay $650,000 to keep it open for the next week. in total, about a dozen national parks are set to reopen via funding from individual states. the federal government shutdown is causing problems on florida waterways christina pueg reports. >> for power boaters in base cain national park, columbus day weekend is traditionally the biggest party of the year.

the waterways south of miami is home to some of the best scuba diving in the nation. it provides access to nearby havens like elliott key. because of the federal government shutdown, the park is officially closed. >> you can boat through the park but you can't anchor. it's not a matter of putting up a sign and closing a gate. >> we have hundreds of miles of boundary out in the ocean, unmarked boundaries, so we are putting the word out that people are closed. we are asking people to stay away from the park. >> request 30 park rangers furloughed, state and local law enforcement officers are pitching in. >> voters who did venture out to the parkwaters were given this notice, told they could do so if they were either fishing or transiting through the enter coastal waterways. they could only anchor in the park if they were seeking safe haven. if you are using a safety harbor, you are not going to get in trouble? >> that's going to be your argument?

>> that's going to be my argument in court. it's confusing. some are telling us yes. some are telling us know. i can't afford a 5,000 dollar ticket right now. >> i think it's presenty of space in the water out there for everybody to have fun. >> also closed nearby is everglades national park where fishing has been prohibited and where at least 100 boats gathered to protest and send a message to washington. the park being closed means we can't go fishing. that means we can't make any money. and that means the days of fishing we are losing, we don't get back >> reporter: the fishermen are not the only ones feeling the financial squeeze. >> federal employees cloos across the country are having to think about their finances and make temporary arrangements because we are not getting paid at this time. >> on top of the angst, park rangers charged with protecting the national mon huntsman are actually feeling the pain, themselves. from the government closure. christina pugue, al jazeera, mia

miami. thousands of people are gathering in tulsa oklahoma. on the agenda how to preserve native languages to climate change here is more. >> the national congress of american indians gives the u.s.'s 5s 65 federally recognized tribes a unified voice and position in its dealings with the government this year with the usually economic and political issues, it's also dealing with a partial government shutdown. many tribes are hugely reliant on the if he hadram government for t for the most basic of services. many are deeply suffering as a result of the paralysis on capitol hill. this year's conference coincides with columbus day here in the united states the sell wrigs of christopher columbus's first voyage to the americas. columbus day is just another sign of how poorly understood

and to the the u.s. historical narrative is. >> you are not counted in our, you know mainstream society, you know. your individual history is of no value. i mean how would youlike to say, here i am. i found you. i discovered you. upon which you say, how can you find me? i have always been here? >> other major issues to be discussed, violence against women, in particular, the ability of tribal authorities to prosecute non-native men for sexual violence committed in the indian country worth remembering 86% of sexual violence against native women is committed by non-native men. the impacts of the oil and gas boom independento indian country, native american women reporting a spike in assaults against them that's in the

influx of those exploiting resources. >> small protests are called for against the interim government. this time, the anti-coup alliance advised against a large takeover of cairo's tahrir square where massive protests have so often ended in violence. dozens of protest orders and security fors have been killed during demonstrations in the past two weeks. an american citizen detained in an egyptian jail for more than six weeks was found dead in his prison sale. the cause of death was an apparent suicide. the man was identified as james lun. he was arrested in a security crack down that followed al car bomb that exploded in northern sinai in late august. he is the second foreigner to die in egyptian custody since last month. ten people are dead after a rash of bombings in iraq. the deadliest attack happened in hila where two car bombs went off, killing at least five

people. 11 bombs went off in mostly shiite regions. two more people were killed and 31 injured in the city of cook where four bombs went off near a restaurant. increasing violence has killed more than 6,000 people in iraq so far this year. two million muslim pilgrims are expected to take part in hage. as they prepare to head to mount arafat on monday. the hage is the largest gathering of muslim people in the world. it happens every year. many say they will pray for peace in egypt and syria. for this year's pilgrimage health officials are taking it precautions. a report on what's being done to prevent an outbreak: this is one of the biggest gatherings of people in the world. millions of muslim faithful

converge here for the annual hage. this year is different. health authorities are on alert for anyone suffering from mers. it has suffocated 119 people in the kingdom. 51 of whom have died. many have no idea whatsoever about the disease. >> i was more interested in learning about how to perform hage. yes care about diseases. it's been eight days since i arrived. i am fine. >> in the coming days, millions of pilgrims will perform rituals in crowded areas. a situation where diseases like the merz virus could spread quickly. >> part of the problem is that world health organizations has what it calls only very limited information on how it spreads. the saudi health minister says

his confidence: >> i would like to assure everything that the status of hage is excellent. the health of pilgrims are excellent. yes don't have any indication of any epidemic disease or infectious disease including mers virus. >> in this hospital, the doctor shows me isolation rooms where any patients with infectious diseases like mers will be treated. for the time being, hand authorities are asking pilgrims to maintain personal hiygiene standards. people with chronic diseases were told to defer their hage >> there is very little known about the exact way that the virus transmits. we know it there minutes from human to human but mechanisms and the speed of transmission is still unclear. >> pilgrims with respiratory problems are treated in

hospitals like this one. samples are taken and analyzed buzz a serious as mers is, it isn't the only health concern during hage sun stroke and people's underlying health issues have in the past proven to be the biggest threats to pilgrims. doctors hope the middle east respiratory syndrome doesn't do anything to change that. to help us understand the significance of the muss lem world, we turn to middle east history professor juan cole, annays contributor and he joins us from new orleans. good to see you, juan cole. >> hi, thomas. >> this is a significant spiritual event for the muslim community around the world. why is this so centra to islam? >> islam has five pillars and one of them is that every able-bodied muslim should try to make the pilgrimage once in a

lifetime if they can afford to do so. >> this is a multi-day event lasting a week. take us through the pilgrimage to the hage. >> a lot of people, it's note part of the hang, itself. a lot of people arrive a day early. they go to visit the shrine. the tomb of the prophet, mohammed in nearby medina and they will come on and begin the hage in the holy city of mecca. there is a shrine, the caba or the cube-shaped black building. people circumambulated. they chant, we are here, 0 lord, and then they go onto a nearby valley the next day and ultimately, they gather in the plain of arafat, which is a commemoration of peace and unity. it's maybe the world's largest peace festival. >> that's coming up. >> this is an orchestrated

event. there is a time and place for everything. [at that time that's right. it's a set of rituals. people have to learn how to do the rituals. they will study them before they go. it's structured but people have mystical experiences. one of the most famous incidents was malcolm x, the nation of islam leader who kind of had somewhat racist ideas towards whites, went on the hage, and he found a blue eyed norwegian muss limeades and people from all over the world and he changed his view of islam and became a universalist. >> what are some of the issues that arise with the hage because this is really a massive crowd. >> in an ordinary year recently, there has been three million people, an enormous logistical problem to assemble them and have them go through all of these rid annuals together.

this year because of the mers scare, it's two million. the saudi authorities have limited views for the elderly and infirmed children so that healthy people who are much less likely to get sick are assembled this time. but there are saudi guides. they try to make it well-organized. >> middle east history professor juan cole giving us his insight. thank you >> thank you. >> it's a modern day gold rush. >> a really little tink baby piece. it's it's worth money weeks after devastating floods in colorado, there is something bringing a smile to people's faces. >> kicking in boston where the red sox will look to score against the tigers.

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techknow - ideas, invention, life. welcome back. colorado's floods wreaked havoc but they unearth gold. some are hoping to turn misfortune into a small fortunate. there is a silver lining to the flooding in the foot hills of the roche mountains. it's gold. >> anywhere in the stream, you could find gold. what's happened over the last month or so with the floods and everything, we have got a lot of material moved down from the mountains. >> the flooding kicked up creek

beds. >> this is a sluice box. what its designed to do is separate the gold and any other heavies that are in with the sand and the rock. >> so gold that had been sitting at the bottom of colorado's waterways for years is now flowing down from the hills. these men and women belong to a group called "gold prospectors of the rockies." they work these waters all the time but for themcial the past month has been golden. >> it's just a really little tiny baby piece. >> these finds may be small. so small you need a well-trained eye to spot them but this is definitely al golden moment for panners like pam schmidt. >> i am the very first one that's seen it. i found it. nobody else has ever laid their eyes on it. >> if you are lucky enough to find something here, you can do one of two things: hold on to it and show the grandkids or cash it in and make all of this work, worth your while. >> gold-in-detectors has felt the effects in new-found

fortunes, too. >> let's see what you've got >> gold that i have bought from customers that have been out panning and sluicing. >> louise smith inspect every flake. >> this looks clean. what do you think that would be worth. >> that would probably be worth around $600. >> a pretty good price. >> yeah. it's just about half an ounce. >> this is where the first colorado gold rush began in 1858. >> it's exactly the same as in the 1800s. only thing is our equipment is so much updated. much better made out of aluminum. made out of plastic. >> the technique is basically the same. try to get the gold suspended to drop to the bottom of your pan. >> it's been doing us good. >> when the waters are flowing like they are now, there really is gold in them thar himself. >> that's a fact. there is gold here seven miles from downtown denver and we are getting gold. >> gold's current price, well over $1,200 an ounce. jim houlie, golden, colorado.

darren haynes joining us once again. a little n.f.l. action and baseball action. >> post-season going on october. this is a must-win for the red sox in game 2 at home in the american league championship series in the first game last night, the red sox almost made history in a negative way. they almost became the third team in post-season history to be no hit. that bid ended with two outs in the 9th inning. the old saying that great pitching will always be great hitting. red sox were silenced by the detroit' power arms. they struck out 17 times, which tied a post-season record. the sox were also 0 for 6 with four of those 17 strike-outs with runners in scoring positions. they weren't able to capitalize. this is the sox' first post-season shutout since the infamous 1918 against those

loveable losers, the chicago cubs. for more, we welcome in ross. it's no secret we knew that the tiger's pitching rotation is a beast this year. how can boston neutralize detroit with their bats which i am sad to say was non-existent. you mentioned that off the top because the red sox offense effective last night, one hit, 17 strike-outs. they left eight runners on base. imagine john farra tweaking forrons for hissonsive line up. nap lee is going to be sitting on the bunch as well as daniel. they are out. mike carp and johnny gomes. boston is a veteran team. they will grind away. their approach, one game at a time. >> it's not a good feeling to be on the other end. it's a great feeling to be on the side where there is a no hitter going. unfortunately, you know, we need

to to. it's one of those things. we have to stay focused. >> great line-ups battles. a shot that fell in t we played it phenomenal defense. that play at the top of the 9th was one of the better praise i have ever seen a shortstop make. >> it doesn't get easier for boston. they are facing scherzer. he has struggled in the regular season against boston. career record 2 and 4 with an era over 7. you might want to keep an eye on jacoby els bury. david ortiz, big poppy batting over 400. he has hit three home runs so boston need to generate some

kind of offense tonight in game 2 of this best of seven alcs 17 all together tying a post season record. >> do you have give anna bell sanchez his credit. he was locked out. he led with the lowest earned run average during the regular season. you could argue he could be the ace on most teams but his curveball was nasty. you saw the check swings from the boston red sox line up. those guys, jacoby ellsbury are a veteran team. they have pride and they are going to be battling, taking pitches and working that talent against matt scherzer. >> bucholtz has a task. do you think he can go pitch to pitch with the cy young candidate? >> he has got to because it is a must-win situation for the boston red sox. remember, they already lost home

field advantage in games 3, 4, and possibly 5 are back in mo town and game three, you have the big stud going on. clay burk heats needs to be big with a 12 and one record. hopefully he can pitch one at home and this fenway crowd will be fired up because they are tired of just one hit and no runs. they are antsy. they want to see offense tonight. hopefully for boston fans they will get it because angry people leaving fenways park. >> boston has some tough fans. thank you very much, ross. heading into week six of the n.f.l. season, jets and steelers are going in two different directions. the jets are one game behind the top spot in the afc east while the steelers are winless this season. looking bad on both sides of the ball until now, mike tomlin and the steelers off of a by week and looking for win number 1. third quarter, third and two for the steelers check out ben rocket robert. pitch and catch with i emanuel

sappeders touchdown strike. that puts the steelers up 16-6. meanwhile, the ups and downs of rookie quarterback smith continues, jets driving on the steelers 23. smith gets picked off in the red zone. >> that's a big no-no. late in the fourth, smith again. he gets intercepted this time from the 12 yard line. that seals the game for the steelers 19 for 6 your final there. meanwhile kansas city chiefs looking to remain unbeaten and the lamar charles show today. two scores, first one from seven jars outed. he finishes with 78 yards on the ground. the shifts beat the raiders 24-7 as they move to 6 and 0 this season. >> in buffalo, the bills are down 24-7 with under two minutes to go. but they are driving. ej manual connects with goodwin on the 40 yard strike stying the game and ending this to overtime. in ot, nugent nails from 43 yards out moves the bengals to 4

and 2 with a 27 to 24 win. in minnesota, adrienne peterson paid with a heavy heart after the death of his son on friday. but this one, however, was all panthers. he threw for three touchdown passes and rushed for another as carolina steamroles minnesota 35 to 10. i am darren haynes and that's a look at sports. >> i can't imagine what he is going through. darren, thank you. be sure to watch talk to al jazeera. tonight's guest is independent senator bernie sanders of vermont. he is the only socialist ever elected to the u.s. senate. >> politically or ideologically, i am a democratic socialist. >> what does that mean? >> what it means is that i think we have some enormous problems in this country in terms of income and wealth inequality and i want to see a nation, this great nation, be a country in which all people have at least a minimum standard of living and where we don't have the kind of

incredible gaps between the very, very rich and everybody else that we country have. so being a democratic socialist means, in my view, everybody should be entitled today healthcare as a right. it means that we should have a living wage, minimum wage so that if you are going to work 40 hours a week, you are able to take care of your family. it means that we have a tax system in which the wealthy and large corporations contribute their fair share, which is not the case right now. it will means that if you -- because we believe in families, presumably, it means that when you have a baby, as a mom, you can stay home with your baby and your husband can be -- father can be with you for a while. nurturing that kid and basically, it means to move in the direction that many of the scandinavian countries have moved in. >> another reminder, you can watch the full interview with senator bernie sanders tonight. talk to al jazeera airs at 10:30

eastern, 7:30 pacific. right here on al jazeera america. meteorologist rebecca stevenson is coming up next with a national forecast been together unexpected voices closest to the story, invite hard-hitting debate and desenting views and always explore issues relevant to you. n hi, my name is jonathan betz,

it was only mid-september that fukushima had problems with a typhoon and caused problems with maintaining contaminated water in tanks. once again, japan watching another typhoon develop. this one is going to develop, but as it moves its track, will get into cooler waters, it is expected to weaken slowly into probably a fairly strong extra tropical lull. that will move up along the east coast to japan passing kyoto and nisa. fukushima will watch out for the bands of rain coming off of that storm because we certainly do not want any spills there. >> when we talk about rain, we have got plenty here in the states. and that is in texas. you know you have heard about

texas floods. it's inspired a lot of music and jazz and some al bums but we are talking texas floods that are serious today as we have been watching rescue go on from the various flash floods occurring in south and west texas. we have rained titles. already today, austin texas has a new record rainfall for the day. over three inches of rain for you. here is where our flash flood warnings are going on right now. we are going to keep a flash flood watch going through the day tomorrow. >> that's big, rich, juicy storm. we look at our rada and clouds. it's taperred off a little bit. still heavy storms along a line near san antonio. forecast as you can see continues over the next 24 hours to be heavy. here is the culprit: tropical storm, a big moisture plume coming up from the moitropqual. >> storm moving into texas and it will keep the rain and thunderstorms going through tonight and even through the day

tomorrow. this issays america live from new york city. i am thomas drayton. the senate has adjourned with no deal to end the government shutdown. democrats and republicans remain far apart. there has been talk of a short-term increase in the debt ceiling, which the country is scheduled to hit on thursday. at least 89 people are dead after a stampede in india. hindu pilgrims were on their way to a remote temple in dadia province. it started on a small bridge that thousands were trying to cross. >> millions of people on india's eastern coastline are recovering from the country's strongest storm in more than a