>> good evening, everyone, and welcome to aljazeera america, i'm in new york. >> we're working with our members on a way forward. >> the latest attempt to reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling has split house republicans. a warning from wall street about the political crisis and the risk of a u.s. default. senate leaders say that they're ready it make a deal right now to reopen the government. but the spotlight is on a

divided house where republicans are split on what to do. rapidly emerging deadlines to pay the bills. let's go to livy, and where do we stand right now? >> reporter: well, the house looked like it was doing it's own thing today, john, but it has really been a bust of a day. this morning, house speaker, john boehner, went behind closed doors with republicans, and when they edge emerged they were not interested in what was taking place in the senate. the house republicans said we're not interested. though speaker boehner said no decisions are made at this point, the plan emerged throughout the day. but at this point, it was dead in the water. it was yanked back from a committee hearing this evening at the last hour because it turns out that it wasn't conservative never for the tea

party republicans. the leadership from washington state said that it wasn't republican's fault. here's what she had to say. >> for weeks now, the republicans in the house have been leading with solutions, and we believe this is the time for solutions and they need to be based upon fairness for all. >> she's saying that the fault lies with dems, but that's not what the american public is finding and the polls for anyone in washington, but they're hitting republicans hard. the situation today has brought a lot of frustration for capitol hill including republicans in the senate. we talked to john mccain, he said he's frustrated with everyone, and he puts the blame on house republicans, but he said democrats are not immune. >> it's a reason to negotiate. and instead, the democrats are rejecting it out of hand. and i think that's very very wrong. this was a fool's errand to start with.

we were never going to defund obamacare, but now there appears to be a good faith proposal from the republican side, not insisting on defunding obamacare, and they're making reasonable provisions and that should be negotiated on rather than being rejected out of hand. >> so you hear senator mccain there spreading blame around to everyone. but at this point, it's the house republicans who seem to have over played their hand. their plan dead in the water, and now the focus will be back to the senate, where we were 24 hours ago basically, we'll go back to the plan shaping up. and we'll go to back to reid and mcconnell. >> let me see if i can get it straight, the republicans were going to introduce their own bill in the house, but it wasn't conservative enough, and that's

not going to happen, is that right? >> that's right, the house republicans said that deal is not conservative enough, let's cook up our own. but including the heritage foundation. they mark up bills and they said don't vote for it, it's not conservative enough, and it doesn't go far enough to defund obamacare and other things. we heard obamacare with republicans, and it seems that they're doing things over again. but the house republicans were taking it back to the beginning, but no actual movement there. >> we're going to go to the white house and talk about the president and the democrats, and mike is there, so what's the reaction at the white house?

>> throughout this crisis, the president has been playing a game, leaving it to harry reid on the senate floor to do the dirty work, to gain bypassing the piecemeal bills. president has been at various venues around town, and putting it in jeopardy. again, today he good that. did that.

>> there are ways for us to do this that doesn't damage the economy, and is my hope is that we can build off that spirit. >> and late this afternoon, the president did meet with house democratic leadership, a planned strategy, and old hands keeping it together to maintain the unified front. and nancy pelosi appeared in the white house driveway, and she told what was going to happen later tonight, that the house republican panel wasn't going to fly, and now is the time to act on the senate bill. >> he is going to put all of these matters on to question the president of the united states

of america, and he's going to have to have his own vote to do it. >> where do we go from here? translation, no more news. and the only action in town is in the senate with reid and mcconnell. and tonight they're sitting down to negotiate. >> all right, here at the white house, thanks. stocks are taking a hit on the stall in negotiations. the dow closed down, and stitch, one the biggest agencies is warning that it could cut the u.s. aaa rating because of the fiscal impasse in washington d.c. ali joins us in the studio, and it's becoming a regular gig. and it's probably the most disturbing night of this so far. >> it's a problem. >> give us what it means for them to come out with this. >> it's pretty serious to suggest that it's putting the u.s. on what it calls the negative rates watch. which means that they're going to keep looking at it and evaluating.

they said the same thing that it said in 2011 when it did downgrade. fitch is still keeping the u.s. at a aaa, but it's the constant thing, the crisis it crisis and threat of defaulting. it's not that nobody knew any of this stuff. but there are funds around the world that invest in u.s. treasuries that cannot invest in things if the consensus rates go down. right now, one of the rates is already lower, and if it goes down, people will have to buy something else, like swiss bonds or canadian bonds that are rated higher, and that puts pressure on interest rates. that's the concern. we're all worried that if this goes bad, interest rates will go up, and it slows the economy down, and makes it harder to borrow money. >> we're watching the asian market. and give us a sense of what's

expected. >> the markets know as much as mike vac aira knows at the moment. and is somebody going to blink? if it does, there will be a strong market reaction. these things always get fixed in the end, but will it make everybody in washington inside of that beltway, inside of that loop say, wow, this is serious. wow, this could trigger a recession and money starts to get reallocated around the world. >> we talk about main street, and they were suggesting maybe take out some cash. >> we tell people, it will be hard to miss the runup. but i find it hard to tell them, don't worry about it. we have lost 5% of the market from the 18th. and that's "real money" to people. if you're 55, 65, you can't be

worried about. and we have heard from one of the cash logistic companies that moves money from atms and around, they have been asked to by the federal reserve because they think people will go and take money out of their banks, it's not a wise thing to do, but this is how psychology works. >> talk about the futures, they're back up i believe? >> the markets are trying to make sense of this. most people are rational thinkers, and this cannot be possible, we're not actually going to miss payments. that's not going to happen. if you look at the money that goes in and out, we might have until the 22nd. >> but that's not the point. if you're talking about the reaction in the market, the uncertainty of that. >> if you have uncertainty, you don't make positive decisions, you hold back, and that's what individuals are doing. when you think that the economy is not going to do well, you hold off on purchases and it

starts to feed off on itself. >> this could affect the christmas buying season. >> of course, the retailers are the first to feel the hit. and the whole debt ceiling talk is making people cautious. >> you're going to be in washington tomorrow. >> yes. >> i hope that you can do something about that. >> it's like the e trade baby. >> all right, thanks and see you tomorrow. >> . >> bill richardson is someone who knows about the power of investigation, and he led the talks with the north koreans and saddam hussein during his time as the ambassador to the u.n., and he was also in mexico. let me start with your book, how to sweet talk a shark. it's about negotiating, and in washington, we've seen a complete breakdown of negotiations, do you have advice for people in washington d.c.? >> yes, i do. i think they're in such bad

shape in terms of personal relationships. they need an outside mediator, somebody like hank paulson, or tim geithner, the former treasury secretary. and number works i think that the president should bring everybody into the white house and not let them go until they have a deal. have them avoid talking to the press and the caucus, and lastly, john, an outline for a deal. forget about obamacare, and make a deal on the lines of entitlement reform, and tax reform, spending cuts, and get the shutdown out. and have a debt limit maybe until february or march. those outlines are obvious, the problem is the deep party republics. >> can you care it anything in the past? >> no, this is the worst it has been. it's totally dysfunctional. when i was in congress, we used to disagree on the floor or the

house, and but in the end, we would have a deal. and with ronald reagan this never would have happened. >> every time there's a negotiation, every time there's a meeting, then they come out and do a press conference, and they say nasty things about each other. does that matter? >> yeah, that's a problem. what they're doing is not just dealing with the public, but they're talking to their caucuses. for instance, speaker boehner, there are 30 or 40 tea party republicans that i think he has to maintain on his side. or he loses his speakership, and it gets very personal. that's why you need outside mediation, it's not going to happen, and they're not going to listen to me. >> do you think that he's going to lose his speakership? he's close to it? >> i don't think he's close, but i think if he makes a wrong move, there are 40 votes he won't get in a caucus.

>> liv i've been trying to see e has a way out. >> he needs to test vote to see if those republican tea party guys are that strong, whether they will stick together or if some will peal off. because a deal will happen with the moderates in the house. he should test vote them. that's in the negotiation, you want to eventually get the other side to show you their stuff. >> there has been a lot of talk, and the republicans are complaining about the fact that the president won't negotiate. the president has been unwilling to negotiate. has the president led in this circumstance? >> my view is he has negotiated. i think in some instances, he might have gone in a little earlier, but i think in the end, this is a dispute that involves the leadership in both parties. but this is why i think in the

end, and i see that he's doing this, bringing people to the white house, and getting more engaged, but i still think, john that an outside mediator is needed. >> my conversation with bill richardson earlier, and veterans are in outcry, and protesting that the world war ii memorial again today. the growing frustration and the growing problems that veterans face. >> reporter: as the shutdown drags into tis second week, in washington, it's not just a place for contemplation and memory, but veterans groups have gathered to voice their frustration at the deadlock in congress. >> it has had a devastating affect on the community and it's getting worse by the minute. and we want them to focus on one

mission, end the shutdown. we did our job, and we need them to do ours. >> veterans are tired of being used as a political chew toy, and they want certainty of their benefits. anything with the default on what the government needs to do is start to decide which bids they're going to pay. and by november 1st, veterans benefits and military salaries could be in jeopardy. aljazeera, washington. >> good evening, i'm meteorologist, kevin corval. we saw this over the philippines, and left over a dozen dead. this is what vietnam is dealing with right now in the aftermath of the storm. they had to evacuate over

100,000 people across the region, and the outcome though, a lot of homes and infrastructure was destroyed because of that. what we're dealing right now, another typhoon and this is making its way very close to japan. actually, this is the strongest typhoon that has come this close to japan since 2014. and a lot of people are concerned because of the proximity to fukushima and the cleanup efforts there. this is wednesday morning across japan. and a lot of people have been evacuated in this area as well. and we're waiting on more reports on how they fared in this particular area. later on in the show, we're going to be talking about the devastating flooding in parts of texas.

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>> derek haines is here with the acls game 3. big news. >> a weird one as well. the turn of events in the game. while the boston red sox were full of energy in the championship series, they came into detroit and sucked all of the energy out of the tigers and the ballpark, an outage delayed the game for 17 minutes, and then a solo home run into left center. 1-0 red sox, and that's all she wrote. the red sox taking a two game to one series lead. how about soccer? spain, england and russia in the world cup finals in brazil. beating georgia 2-0. and england's place in the world cup with a 2-0 victory over

poland, and russia earned it's firth berth as an independent nation. kansas freshman, wiggins, shoe companies are lining up to making unreasonable offers. iches is $180 million over ten years as soon as he declares for the draft. most shoe deals for rookies are at around four years. aljazeera will be right back.

>> welcome back to aljazeera america. and i'm john, here are the top stories. alleged al qaeda member, al libby, pled not guilty to bombing two u.s. embax he's in africa two years ago. he was captured by u.s. forces in october. accused of helping to bomb in tanzania and kenya, in which u.s. citizens died.

>>ellaic in the philippines, the search for survivors underway. it knocked out churches and businesses and homes. >> house republicans have tried twice today to end the government shutdown and after waiting for the house to agree on a plan, the senate leaders have very little time to reach an agreement before thursday's deadline. america's credit under review. it was put on negative credit watch because congress has failed to raise its federal debt ceiling in a timely manner. the news briefing sent dow numbers falling 100 points, and they have since rebounded. so if it were up to the senate and the government shutdown and the debt ceiling crisis came to an end, but it seems to be in the hands of a divided house of

representatives. and this is the live picture of the senate. and actually the house of representatives has adjourned for the night. libby casey has not adjourned, but she's standing by to tell us why the house is out of session and the senate? session. >> the republicans tried to put forth their own plan and it got instant push back from democrats, and here's what minority leader, nancy pelosi said. >> the speaker thinks that he's going to put all of these extraneous matters into question the president of the united states of america, he's going to have to have his own vote to do it. >> reporter: minority leader, impact impact at a white house meeting with just democrats, and the plan didn't just get pushed back from democrats, john. but conservative republicans also revoled, and turns out that speaker boehner didn't have the votes, and you might as well

turn the clock back 24 hours because all eyes turn to the senate for talks to resume. senator harry reid and mitch mcconnell and republicans are trying to gage how to move forward. here's what we know so far. it would raise the debt limit into february, and it would get the government back up and running into january, and today call for a bicameral negotiation group to work on budget issues. we don't know yet if it would have minor changes to the healthcare laws. democrats have things they wanted and republicans other things, and the focus now turns back to the senate. the problem is, even though they're going back with the clock in terms of negotiations, trying to turn back the clock 24 hours, the clock marches forward. and we get closer and closer to the thursday day, that secretary

treasury lu has said will be a key day. the senate is the key body and they have a lot to do. >> nothing is going on right now, right? >> it's all about the talks happening behind closed doors, so we're watching to see if we can get more details of the plan emerging. and we heard another warning from senator john mccain when aljazeera caught up with him today. he said everybody is at fault. the republicans and the house, they tried to change obamacare and that's dead in the water, but he had a warning for democrats as well. >> it's a reason to negotiate, and instead the democrats are representing out of hand, that's very very wrong. this was a fool's errand to start with, we were never going to defund obamacare, but now there seems to be a good faith proposal from the republican side, not insisting to defunding

obamacare, and they're making reasonable provisions that can be votin voted on and not reject of hand and i think that the democrats are overplaying their hands. >> so now they can get to work and bring modesty to bear, we'll see what they can accomplish by thursday. >> every single day that the government is shut down, american farmers are losing ground and losing money. many can't even pay their bills or my for loans to -- apply for loans to stay in business. reporting from louisiana. >> reporter: for 21-year-old brock, it should be a sweet life in the sugar cane business right now. >> this is louisiana's crop >> reporter: but in the final month of his harvesting, the government shut down is threatening to shut him down for good. >> i can't move forward or plant

anything as of today. >> like many farmers, he has been banking on financial help from the federal farm services agency, but the local office is closed and the website is down. so he can't buy the tractor and the parts and the pesticides that he needs to keep going. >> i just worry what's going to happen next. >> reporter: while older and more established farmers may have a savings to start working on next year's crop, that's not the case where some of the younger ones who rely on the loans. >> every day is precious, whether the soil or planting, every day is critical. and the money lost every day, it doesn't come back. it's not going to be rem bersed, that's lost permanently. >> reporter: it can take a significant toll on a business that contribute $34 billion every year to the economy. and experts point out that critical time now lost could cost americans at the grocery store. >> the end result is going to be

instabilitia the in-the market, and it causes costs consumer and we have to be careful that we don't cause more damage than we're trying to correct with all of the negotiations >> reporter: the harm may already be done for newcomers like brock. for now, he can't apply for the next one. >> it's just another headache, and it gets or s worse and worse with. >> reporter: so regardless of how long the shut down lasts, it's impact may be much longer. aljazeera, louisiana. >> experts call it an epidemic in america. in a recent gallop poll, 20% of americans didn't have enough money to buy food. that's shy of 2008 when the economy imploded.

one in five children lives in a household that has difficulty feeding them. the day in a palm beach, florida family, struggling to put food on the table. >> reporter: jerome is nine years old, but he's growing into a young man. he's 110 pounds. >> he's a big boy, and i want to say we don't have enough food, that would kill a mother. >> reporter: he eats breakfast at his elementary. >> i like it because it's free food. >> reporter: they serve free breakfast. 94% of the students eat free or reduced lunches. >> food insecurity.

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>> there are approximately 33,000 wild horses roaming on public land in the american we have. in onred to keep the mandated number of these animals, the bureau of land management is looking at ways to reign them in. and we went on a wild horse roundup in colorado. >> reporter: strong, free and independent. wild mustangs are a symbol of the miles per hour west.

they represent a proud heritage. >> we love coming here and we want that for our future >> reporter: it's a heritage that the blm wants to preserve. but they have been reined in. chris' job is to look at the approximately 154 wild mustangs on the western slope of the western colorado. we're in a valley where about a dozen mustang are grazing, they look good. their tails are full and their bellies are full. and that means that this valley is the appropriate size for the horses grazing on it. but in other parts of the west, wild horses are in crisis. too many horses and not enough land. they wage a $75 million battle to keep up with growing herds. there are 37,000 roping 31 million acres from washington to colorado.

that's 10,000 more animals than the federal government says is appropriate for the land available to them. >> if we did not manage the horse numbers, we would run into a boom and bust numbers. an enormous number of horses. >> desperate, horse experts at colorado university are developing a contraceptive vaccine that will keep a mare from conceiving. but it could be too little too late, given that the horse population will triple by 2017 leaving only tough and controversial atives it. >> i think that the only option is to round them up and take them to sale or slaughter. >> another drastic measure is to let thousands of horses starve until the population is brought into the balance. >> i grew up on a big cattle

ranch in montana, riding horses almost every day for 20 years, and it's a shame, having grown up and seeing horses, to see what happens. >> wild horse managers hope that the contraceptive vaccine is effective, before they run out of room and have to make decisions on the wild horse's future that so far they have unable to do. there are no easy answers. tamara banks, aljazeera, mesa county, colorado. >> well, darren haines is back with sports, and this is an important game to the city of detroit really. and sports is so important to detroit. >> reporter: with the series locked in at one apiece, things are big for game three. and while the boston red sox

were full of energy after the walk off in the american league championship sheers, they came into game they and sucked out all of the energy out of the tigers, and the ballpark. this game was delayed for 17 minutes, and justin verlander was throwing gas. spectators just watching the game. and then the fifth strikeout, jarron with another strikeout. also, john lackey had a pretty good day. and strikeout, intro in the third. and then in the 7th, verander still in, but the first pro season home run. and now the red sox the, the bottom of the 9th. boston takes a two games to one lead in the alcs.

1-0 the final. >> well, as we have seen in the first three games, their starters have been outstanding. that game was unfolding as the first two have, and we don't get anything going through the first five, possibly six innings, but to drive out of the ballpark, in a 1-0 game, obviously that's the key moment from the offensive side. but he was very good and outstanding. >> in detroit, as the tigers continue it stay alive, fans will continue to watch them at comerica park. despite filing for bankruptcy, detroit seems to give another thumbser for a venue partially funded with public money. many want to see it happens, and many others don't. >> tigers game day in detroit. with the ballpark still looking

pristine and new, it's hard to believe that the team moved here 13 years ago from historic tiger stadium. long time broadcaster, jim price, says that keeping the tigers downtown has been a win for detroit. >> first of all, the people that deal in the inner-city, with the giveaways and clinics, would that be here? i don't know if the ballpark was out out in ann arbor, and a lot of people hired are in the inner-city. >> out on the left, the home of the lions and tigers respectively. it cost $130 million to bring those stadiums and thousands of fans together in the city of detroit. over here in this area, the detroit red wings are proposing spending almost that money to build a new facility for their hockey club, and rather than bringing people together, it's driving many detroiters apart.

no one doubts that the proposed area of the red wings arena needs attention. >> this is where you go back 20 years ago, that it was one of the most dangerous spots in this city, which is already a dangerous city. >> a city made more dangerous because it doesn't have the money to turn on all of the street lights or quickly dispatch the police. it's set to spend $284 million in public money from its development fund to help pay the arena's projected $650 million cost. backers point out that public money makes up only 44% of the new arena's cost. and 60% of comerica park's by comparison, from the public trough. and opponents still have their doubts. >> i think it's a bad idea. >> jerry owns three bars and restaurants. he wants them to bring the jobs that detroit needs. >> there are jobs, because for

four hours a day, there are these people that take your money in the lot. and you have that, and the guys passing hotdogs across the table, you know, but you're also remembering that these jobs are [ audio difficulties ] >> i think there's a starting point, and the red wings are at the starting point. look at this town.

welcome to al jazeera america, i'm john siegenthaler, and here are the top stories. members of the house say they will try again tomorrow. republican house members tried twice today to come up with a plan to end the government shutdown and extend the debt ceiling. neither plan could win enough support from conserving. senate leaders had been discussing their own bipartisan proposal but were waiting today for the house to act. america's aaa credit rating is now officially underreview. a lower credit rating means it has cost the country