to your money real. real money with ali velshi tonight - 7 eastern on al jazeera america >> we're back talking about the >> this is al jazeera america damage for the republican brand. live for from new york city. we have john fury, president this is tony harris with the day's top stories. congress is expected to end the obama has said the very next thing on his agenda is government shutdown. immigration reform. the plan keeps the government he'll push very hard to try to get it done. running through january 15th. house speaker john boehner would the white house said president not bring up a vote. obama supports the senate plan to end the standoff. the president urged congress to john boehn sticks to that approve the measure quickly. position does that not maintain the anger and position the >> welcome back we're talking around the talks aimed at public has about this is a party about the aftermath about the crisis in washington with john that can't get things done? iran's nuclear program wrapped up in geneva. >> john boehner and paul ryan fury, and bill snyder, professor are working very hard to get a six world powers including u.s. bill through. they want to get any piece of and russia took part. u.s. officials say the talks at george mason university and with the organization third way. were candid and straightforward. comprehensive reform done and president obama, his strategy, iran hopes to convince the world maybe it will happen after the

john, was hands off the last couple of weeks. that uranium enrichment is for primaries are done. it's important for the party let harry reid essentially do image to get a bill finished. they want to work with the the negotiations. senate and get something done was that smart and does it but it's not easy because you energy and not weapons. more talks will take place in have 20 or 30 members who don't three weeks time. want anything to get done from portend more problems for the in japan 17 people are dead the tea party caucus. president because people wanted him more hands on in this. after a typhoon lashed the this is another reason why they're going to navigate country's prophetic coast. >> i thought it was a failing as many as 50 others are carefully. >> it's crucial for the hispanic missing. the storms caused mudslides that process. when you wake up in the morning you're negotiating. bury homes. the japanese government promised community. that has got to change if the the part president's job is to to do all it can to help find republicans are going to have a the missing and find survivors. chance in the elections coming negotiate. he could have said i'm not going up. to give up anything for the debt >> yes, it does. they're making the same mistake limit. "inside story" is next on he could have tried many ways to al jazeera. more news next hour. they made a hundred years ago when there was a huge wave of deal with this, but when you say immigration from europe to the i'm not going to negotiate, that's exactly what he did. united states. back then the issue was whether when you have bill clinton, he you were wet or dry, many of would negotiate and he's hands meese immigrants believed that alcohol could be bought and on. joe biden, he can get things consumed but the republicans remained very dry and they done,-- became the base of roosevel roo, >> essentially president obama got everything he wante wanted. he got the republicans to heel.

the president won, the republicans lost. >> but it was a complete disaster for the country. it was an international and that maintained for 40 embarrassment, and the president couldn't travel to asia, it was years. really an embarrassment for the >> reporter: i think americans expect or at least they want winners to be modest and losers president and the country. to be gracious. >> the democrats are thrilled we've seen some of that in terms of how this has ended up in the with the president, why? he did not do what he did last governor shutdown, but isn't time. he gave a lot of concession on there a danger that democrats will do a victory lap, and the spending and those cuts are still deeply resented by republicans will hold back to we'll hold everything ransom democrats, sequestration. tactics. they're glad the president got a >> there is always someone spike backbone implant. the football and you probably this time he said i'm not going to negotiate with people who are shouldn't have that. both sides have to play this going to blackmail me like smart. the problem is people have lost extortionists, and he didn't. >> but there are fears that he faith in all parties and washington. had a backbone this time but in there is a vested interest for terms of the budget talks coming both republicans and democrats to find ways to work together up, medicare cuts might be on the table because the president and make the government work. put them on the table with john if they don't they're all going to be losing their jobs.

boehner two years ago. >> reporter: bill snyder there is the frustration with >> they certainly are worried about that. they hope that this backbone republicans and the danger for takes and lasts awhile because they don't want what happened democrats. we're getting back to where this in 2011 again. were trying to get a couple of things done at once. and thanks to this apparent deal >> john boehner, still speaker of the house, does he survivor, there is discussion about an overall budget in the next john feehery? decade. is that possible. >> certainly it's possible but not very likely. how does he survive to have this the problem is the tea party lack of control over his own republicans don't believe that caucus and still continue to be they could possibly have lost the speaker. the last election. they simply refuse to accept it. >> he's the best speaker at the moment. they don't accept boom care there is not going to be a which was verified by the voters traditional. in 2012. they think some how this whole traditional----challenge. thing was illegitimate, and what it's not the rank and file, it's they have to do is deal with it. the 30 members who would vote against anybody and anything >> by terms of dealing with it, because that's what they believe is there a way to control the in. this is not a problem with with tea party caucus. again, we haven't accomplished competence like with newt anything with the tactics you have pursued. gingrich. maybe you're in safe districts that was a competence problem. we don't have that with john but i have to worry as speaker boehner. of the house about the rest of he does not make foolish the republican caucus. mistakes. >> i have believed for a while this is an ideological problem,

and written on this that the tea party is a different party. and it's not an ideological john boehner does not have the problem with the bulk of the majority coalition, and that he should think about getting rid party but with the smaller part. of some of the tea party members and let them start their own >> you don't have the votes in the chamber. party and face facts. you don't have the votes in the the problem you have is that the senate. tea party has fundamentally you can't override the president with what you want to do and the different views than most republicans. country has been consumed on the in many ways they channel ron dysfunction of washington as paul on foreign policy, economic opposed to something that could policy on a variety of things. have helped speaking ber disastf they're just not really republican. we might as well face up to that and understand that we've got to beat them at the local level and move on and have a governing obamacare. >> everyone knows this is not coalition that works. his strategy. he ultimately had to play it out >> until we have that happen, whether they're local races or as it played, and he's stronger some of them start to lose we for it. he's stronger in his conference have these issues with the budget, the government fund than ever has been. something only until january. the default could happen again the pain is mandatory but the in february. suffer something optional. are we right back in january and sometimes you going to through february to where we've been in that optional suffering. the last few weeks? >> do you agree with the idea that suffering the john boehner >> we could be and it would be even more frustrating for is facing right now does make voters. if anyone cares about pro him stronger over the weeks to economic growth and create jobs come and months to come as we go they got to find a way to work together. this nonsense of shutting down through the upcoming

the government didn't work and negotiations? >> no, i don't think anybody could have controlled that hopefully it's been discredited, caucus and i agree with john on and they got to move on. that, the republican party may >> the last couple of days they be about to split. work together to bring this deal i think in 2016 if the tea party to the floor. maybe that's something that the advances it's own candidate like senate can hang its hat on as far as moving forward. ted cruz or rand paul, i think >> they got to have a crisis. the only way this country is you'll see a lot of misdemeanor governed is if there is a real rate pragmatic republicans look crisis. i knew this would happen. whenever there is a situation for another candidate and form like this they wait until the another temporary party. they did it in 1912 when last moment and then they suddenly make a deal. that's how things get done in theodore roosevelt led a lot of washington because our constitution is structured to republicans out of the party and make government very difficult. he came in second. unless there is enormous i think it could happen. pressure in this case to avoid a >> if you were advising republicans up for election, default things don't happen. generally leading republican district and they're looking at >> putting more pressure perhaps the public tha that is angry abt on his party. president obama who largely left this to negotiators in congress. we'll talk about the roll the washington dysfunction and president has in all of this on having to shut down the the other side of this break. government because of votes how do you advice them to run or you're watching inside story. frame that in terms of a re-election? >> i think what you are really

[[voiceover]] every day, events trying to do is trying to sweep across our country. emphasize the positive, trying to get back to your constituents and with them, a storm of views. and get back what you've done how can you fully understand the for them. i tell you leadership, we have impact unless you've got to get accomplishments. heard angles you hadn't considered? we need to move on quickly. antonio mora brings you smart we need immigration reform. conversation that challenges the status quo with we need a budget deal and progress because it's bad now, unexpected opinions but it doesn't have to be bad in d ten months. >> but it could be bad if democrats see that we've got republicans in a strangle hood right now, and we're not going to give them anything over the next year. >> understand the democrats are in the same boat. they've got a lot of folks who are in tough re-elections, mark prior is an example. they are is going to be a meeting of the minds with the senate of the hous house and the republicans. >> you have perhaps the house republicans and senate democrats working together to figure out how to put points on the board,

is that the way to get things done. >> compromise, negotiation and deal making. that's still the way it works. that's the only way it can work when you have separation of powers like this with different parties in control. but tea party republicans don't >> john, the republican disapproval rate something 80% believe in negotiation and deal and higher for republicans in making and compromise. the house. they think it means selling out. what do they do now to bring they're not going to support that down and prepare for the anything on immigration reform midterm elections that are coming up in a year? which is to their advantage or >> they've got to pivot. anything that looks like a compromise. >> john boehner if he brings up they've got to talk less about what they're against and more of too much renorm in the house, what they're for. perhaps he gets another it would be helpful if they pass resurrection, perhaps another challenge to the leadership to the tea party. the immigration reform rather >> they don't have enough votes. than just trying to get rid of john boehner has the votes. obamacare. do what we did in '95 and they can vacate the chair, but they don't have the votes. '96, balance the budget, welfare john boehner has the votes. there is no one they can reform. they need to get on a more challenge. positive agenda and get off this >> what do you think of the negative agenda. republicans giving up the fight if they can do then maybe they for now? is there another bite at that can started rebranding. apple in the furor is that done? >> is it possible for john bane >> listen, obamacare is going to

fail or be popular in its own for say look at the damage you merits. everyone knows that. cause and list get under republicans think they have got some dings but the fact of the control. matter is they didn't. >> he's not going to make that point to the caucus. they missed the opportunity to keep the focus on obamacare. i'm not one of these guys that believes the website crashing is thethere are 30 to 40 members, the reason why it's unpopular. it's going to be unpopular as they're going to vote no on everything. rates go up. talking to the tea party is if the website crash it means difficult. >> there is discussion and that too many people are trying analysis to suggest that perhaps to get on, and that shows there the republicans are in danger of is a need. losing the house of >> is that helpful to the representatives next year. democrats where they've had a is that a likely a lot? couple of weeks where the public was not paying attention to the >> it's still not possible because of the house is problem with the exchange, but redistricted. in the last h election, most vod now there is going to be a new focus, are the democrats ready? >> i believe they are because people will become attached to where the republicans kept it, people will get insurance, control because of the way the and they'll come to like it. district lines were drawn. i think they'll keep control. that's what has generally happened with entitlement remember, the action is a year ago. a week is a long time in programs. but what people don't like is the mandate. politics. a year is an eternity. >> in a you get insurance or you

>> do you see anything about pay a fine. this particular anger that gives >> the premiums could skyrocket it staying power? if not enough people sign up, >> i think people resent what the republicans have done. and then you'll see a huge wave a lot of voters think this is of protests. totally unnecessary. democrats have always believed it's a manufactured crisis, and once people get a taste of this it was in many ways a spiteful they'll actually like it. that's the risk they're taking. thing republicans said unless you get rid of obamacare and >> what we've learned in the de fund it we're going to shut last couple of weeks of everything down. government crisis. that's a childish way to behave >> with we learned when ted cruz and a lot of voters are comes up with a game plan he disgusted. does not have an exit strategy, they would like to reopen the federal government and shutdown and the groups funded by billion congress. >> we played a clip of senator john mccain who suggested that narrowbillionaires have an imprr people should have followed what he said two weeks ago, this was a losing effort, all the role in the political process. republicans have been able to do >> you need an end game. is get the public extremely ted cruz and mike lee didn't angry at them and one final have an end game. they were not going to stop tweet. obamacare. >> almost every republican it wouldn't happen. outside of ted cruz and mike lee they wouldn't get what they thought this was a bad strategy. wanted. what was their end game? it's hard to say. >> my final thoughts are when you miscalculate washington on a grand scale you pay on a grand he could not get the republicans scale and republicans are united. he wasn't going to get the tea starting to see that with the

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