breaking news on al jazerra america. i am john siegenthaler and this is a live look at the house of representatives, where members are now voting on ideal to raise the debt limit and reopen the federal government. the senate passed the bill earlier this evening, it would funds the government for about three months, through january 15 accounttjanuary 15th and raisese debt ceiling until february 2nd. it comes two weeks in to the got shutdown and a day before we hit a limit defaulting on some of the united states state. the president stoke about an hour ago and said that he would sign the bill immediately as soon as it came from the house. if it does pass.

mike have care is a standing bailiff at the white house with more on this development. mike, so it was a short debate in the house, right? >> reporter: yeah. it's simply -- it's simply because republicans have given up at this point, john. they -- the writing has been on the without it's a fate fait accompli, we have had a disspiritting end to the house e of representatives but a releaf to everyone else in this country. everyone else and around the world certainly on wall street and in the tonight markets and if you are one of the 800,000 federal workers who have been furloughed as a result of what's happened over the course of last 17 days, certainly that is a relief to you. of the last 24 for 48 hours. >> clearly i believe that we have lost mike viqueira's live picture and we'll get back to him in a second. let's go to capitol hill and libby casey is live there. libby are you there? >> reporter: i am, john, i think

here. >> let's talk about the house debate tonight. really it wasn't much of a debate. i think what surprised me, what surprised me the most was what mike has been describing now is total capitulation on the part of republicans as they go in to the home stretch here. >> reporter: yeah. i mean, they'll certainly be revival battles, we got a sense of what some of months battles might be in the last 48 hours in the weeks to come. but this is a done deal. they have folded up camp and are going home for the night. we heard some chatter about speaker boehner heading in for the final round here tonight and he just was pretty mitch saying he's ready to go home. so that is the general sentiment and feeling here. now, we did get a sense of what some of the upcoming battles will be, some of the tea party republicans are beating the drum about the federal health care law which they call obama care. we saw senator mitch mcconnell the top republican in the senate talk today about mandatory budget cuts known as sequestration the budget control

act. he's talking about the fight to keep those cuts in place and that will be something the republicans are trying to get mileage out of in the coming weeks and months. and you know, it's so interesting, john, as we heard senator mcconnell talk today about these spending cuts and holding a line on them, that is something that a lot of republicans said should have been their talking point heading in to the standoff over the government shutdown, over the debt ceiling. republicans could have really come out gaining a lot more public approving and coming out sort of looking like victor fist they had gone in to this with a different messaging, not the ted cruz message but the mitch mcconnell message of going in to debates over the federal budget with some wins under our belt, with some budget cuts in hands that we'll fight to keep. they didn't choose that strategy. and so now they are trying to revive that message as they head in to the next rounds, we are watching the house vote right now. we are looking for the key vote of two stef teen.

217. that's what it takes to get pass your honor tonight. so far no democrats have voted neigh. nay. >> you go a sense of how many republican votes are nay on this? >> reporter: i am seeing so far 25 republicans have voted for it. 37 rah voted na request: iy i l see splits here. i will not do a whip count on live tv. i don't want to get it wrong. but i can tell you we are going to see dozens of republicans vote against this, there is about 50 or so tea party members in the house or conservative members who are unlikely to vote to approve this. and there may even be some more that go on with those individuals. and we talked to folks like michelle box ma balkman today. no way are she and members like her going to support this. however, a lot of moderate republicans, we heard from charlie dent earlier this evening, he did speak in that limited range of debate before

the vote started, he said interesting republican to watch, he's from a lehigh valley of pennsylvania, a moderate part of the state. very purple and he has been saying all along we need to get off the obama care folk us and get the government funded, get the debt ceiling pushed back and so he's been one who spoke up just a few moments ago and gave his points on the floor. those republicans can are voting for this. >> all right. libby, thanks very much. it is interesting that the speaker didn't bother to show up for this tonight. considering this has been quite a fight, but maybe he was worn out by what's going on. we did hear some republicans, some of the moderate republicans talk in the debate about avoiding default, end being the shutdown and ability that allows the country to move on. -- >> reporter: that's not what i said -- >> libby, are you still there. >> reporter: oh, sure, actually, i wanted to make a correction, john. we are seeing speaker boehner here, he's just saying he's ready to go home. >> i am sorry. >> reporter: he's ready to call it a night. >> i thought you said he didn't show up. got it. >> reporter: no, no, that was he was walking the halls heading in

to the night. >> thank very much for the correction. >> reporter: thank you. >> appreciate it. and what we also heard from at least some of the moderate republicans was we must take action that restores trust in government. i want to go back to mike have kara, we have restored his live shot there. so mike, the president a statement earlier in the everything he's up and ready to work the pen and the bill. >> reporter: right. this is a relief to virtually everyone around the country especially if you are among those 800,000 individuals not to mention contract that's lot their jobs during the course of the last three weeks, if you are a conservative in the house and senate it's obviously a very disspiritting evening. >> make let me interrupt you. we are looking at the vote now and there are 32 republicans who vote yea. that means the well -- >> reporter: well over the top. >> they are over the top and the bill wisconsin pass. go ahead.

>> reporter: the 200 democrats in the house of representatives expect today vote straight party line there. >> i have always needed it someone to do the math for me, mike. >> reporter: we are journalists not good at that, that's why we do this. 200 democrats they get everyone one as effect spected they only needed 17. 217 with two vacancieses in our beloved house of representatives means that is a majority if they had -- how many did you say at this point? >> 33 republicans say yes. >> reporter: 33, so they are well over the top. the next step is signed by the speaker of the house. to get everybody up on their i am a bill procedures. signed by the house. and patrick lachey and driven up pennsylvania avenue. literally hand care toyota president. the car will pull you want here on west executive drive and presumably the president will

get the bill and sign it this evening. i know -- >> before midnight, right? >> reporter: an open question, now, as to whether or not federal workers will actually go back to work tomorrow morning or friday morning. we haven't had word. part of the reason for that is all day long the white house has not wanted to speak as if this is a presumed victory here. they have been sort of walking on egg shells and they don't want to disrupt the karma that has brought them to this moment when is undeniably a victory for the white house and for democrats and unden undeniably,a total capitulation on the part of republicans so they didn't even want to go there and talk about what would happen tomorrow if the president gets it tonight. it's still an open question, he can expect to hear from the office of management and budget before all is said and done over the course of that evenings. obviously this moving at rapid speed, lightning speed if you are talking about the house and senate and thought they normally operate. if they are voting a limited debate there weren't even republicans who wanted to be seen talking about this. you were talking about charlie dent one of the last remaining

moderates from around philadelphia, one of the last remaining swing districts in the country. obviously the president here a big victory for him. he came out earlier today something that upset many republicans in the house aircraft breach of etiquette. nobody cares. spoke before the house that actually voted, was very con sill tore any hiconciliatory ind talked about what needed to happen now after republicans and democrats came together. what's left on the agenda, let's listen. >> one of the things i said throughout this process is we have to get out of the habit of governorring by cries cries. my hope and expectation is that everybody has learned that there is no reason why we can't work on the issues at hand. why we can't disagree while still being agreeable. and make sure we don't inflict harm on the american people what when we do have disagreements.

hopefully that's a lesson internalized not just by plea but also by democrat and says republicans, not only the leaders but also the rank and file. >> reporter: okay, the president is seizing the initiative. they have laid on an event that the president will be making a statement. 10:35 a.m. here in washington. going to be pressing the initiative that he -- after this victory. later in the statement the president did he cried politics and elections and the need to get way from it and doing what is best for the american people and getting the legislative process moving, if you look it calendar next year is an election year, a lot of hard-fought contest. senate is up for grabs everybody after republicans have suffered in the polls over the events of the last two months so this stretch between now and january 15th which is the next deadline for a spending bill to expire. the next time we go go through that crisis of a potential government shutdown. what's on the agenda, immigration bill that passed the senate now languaging in the house aircraft particle bilker one of the basic nuts and bolts

that congress seems unable to accomplish in recent years. and, of course, the budget, one little thing that's gone unnoticed here is part of this agreement today was that house and senate -- the house and senate are going to do what should be normal but has lately been unthinkable and that is talk to each other have a normal conference and iron out the budget for the next fiscal year. things are moving ahead but the dynamic hasn't changed there is a lot of pessimism after this vote in the senate and what appears to be a comfortable margin in the house. >> it's 209 right now. we need 217 as mike mentioned. and real money's alley veshi is in washington, d.c. tonight. ali has been following it all night with us. so we saw the reaction from wall street today. what about the reaction toe, tomorrow, amie. >> i am looking at futures, it's interesting as we get closer to resolution of this. futures for tomorrow are actually lower. they are not down, but lower than they were.

as this sinks in and becomes reality markets get less excited it's not a victory -- >> not to interrupt it's official. we are over the 217 number, so it is done. >> i am going to hit the tweet in that case. >> yep. >> it's official. we have it. and there is in fact no change at the moment in futures. which it looks pretty flat at the moment. i will tell for you people who invest and are looking at markets set a clock on the east coast many hours to go 11 1/2 hours before stock markets open so we don't tends on look at futures at this point of the night it's too early, it's too late. people of exhausted they have stopped, visit it again tomorrow. but as mike says, you know, there is a correlation between the closer you get toe lexes in this case midterm elects and the level of stupidity that you sometimes see in terms of handling the economy if it gets pushed over to january and february, maybe they'll actually do something about it. maybe they'll kick the can down the road again and, of course, as you get closer to an election those people who are dug in about not doing anything about

the budget will stay dug in. and the problem is, these people go back to their constituencies and claim victory for having, you know, carried the flag and stood their ground on not allowing this to happen. so we are not looking at this globally, not looking at this in terms of what is good for the economy. what's good for the economy is getting a budget in the country for the first time in five years and paying our bills. and that is not what's happening right there right now. in fact, this is a no victory for anybody. it's just the defeat of forces who were trying to have us go up against this debt ceiling. so that's why markets are not particularly excited. they are lower than they were a month ago. they are exactly where they were on october 1st, when this shutdown happened. so we have made up for the last two weeks, it's still been a very, very strong year for investors, the sn. and p up 19 percent p.economy is still okay, there will be some effect to this, john.

gross domestic product is the biggest measure of economic growth. it's not without effect. markets are not thrilled they are just relieved and you will not see a sale is off tomorrow. that's what's most like let case. >> you traveled down from new york to washington today and spent time there and talked to a number of people on your program. give me what did you pick up today, the mood in washington, what you saw and heard? >> you know, what didn't come across out of this exercise, if you are going to shut the government down for two weeks and you are going to discuss budget and spending control, there should be some moral victory out of this where you convince aid whole bunch of americans you know what, we should take this seriously, we spent more than we take in. we really need to be serious about looking at long-term spending control in this country and there are several versions of that that are out there. the president obama obama budget which is tighter than the budget we have right now. there is the paul ryan budget. there is the commission, the blue ribbon commission and the

bowles simpson commission. four ways of dealing with this deficit and debt. there are not more americans tonight thinking about this than there were two weeks ago. there are more americans thinking those folks in there are a little ridiculous, they waste our time, this economy was gaining steam and they put out their leg to trip it. nobody got any further with the core problem here because the core problem wasn't the budget as you remember, john, we have been talk for this last two weeks, three weeks, four weeks it was all about obama care. it didn't get defeated and is funded and nobody has done a budget in this country in five years. >> ing interest, ali, thanks very much. let me go to libby casey who is on cam toll hill and i want to points out that speaker pain ser there tonight on capitol hill. it looks like the vote is over and it's passed, right? >> reporter: what's so interesting is that we are seeing only three democrats have to cast their vote being 197 so far. what a powerful whipping operation they got all democrats on board in both the house and the senate. that shows a unified voice the

democrats were hoping present that in contrast to the republicans, who, you know, analysis is were all over the house yesterday in-house of representatives. we saw so many different versions of decent among the republican ranks yesterday. contrast that to what's going on with the democrats right now. >> libby, stop for a second. >> reporter: there we go. >> i want to his then to the floorlisten in to thefloor, oka. >> there was some distraction just a moment ago. i want to -- >> reporter: the time has run out on the clock, john, so we pretty much have the votes in that are going to be in and we'll watch to see the official numbers. >> libby, apparently someone was yelling something inside the chamber. but we are not sure. it was a short distraction. obviously no one is speaking rights now. but you know, i was looking at those numbers, and the republicans split,86 ya. ea.

136nays that what you expected? >> reporter: i didn't know what to expect. there were so many questions. speaker boehner said he didn't see any reason to vote against the bill. that sent a signal to one branch of his caucus that he was not only green lighting it in the sense of bringing it to the floor but say, okay, let's move forward here. so that that took us in to one republican mind set. we weren't sure how many would align with the tea party and how many are thinking about reelection prospects back home. the house has to run for office every two years that means you don't go a day without thinking about your campaign it's all about what your constituents back home wants. and unlike the senate, unlike the presidency, where you have to bring together a broader base of a coalition to get support to retain your seat, the hous housf representatives, their districts are jerry memberserred and more americans are choose to go live

nearer to other americans who they like, their values, background and opinions, house districts are seeing them become very segmented and a division taking place. so house members were thinking about what their folks back home wanted and not so much how it looked to the world economy. the big picture. some of the things that ali is talking about tonight. so it was a big question mark. and i think republicans are probably trying to figure it out among their own ranks, how many of their members were going to go which way, frankly. >> let me go back to mike viqueira for one secretary. i was thinking about when they wake up tomorrow, mike, both republicans and democrats start thinking about what they do moving forward. is are there real con treat steps of how these two sides might come together or not? >> reporter: well, i think the first test of that is going to be the budget. as hallie has been talking b incidentally, ali put his finger on a very interesting point it comes to american politics.

the american puck public doesn't want to be bothered with all of this. they think it's crazy, infantile and destructive. the flip side is the great middle. the silents jo earth for borrow a term from way back in the nixon administration isn't paying attention under normal circumstances and sort of perversely, that's why you see the dynamic that you see today. because the people who are paying attention are the hardest of the hard cokier the most motivate the people and that is the motorcycle conservative people on the right and the most liberal people on the left and particularly on the right. the -- you know, this fervor, ellett tree as some might put it drivers them to move that direction. that's part of the fund think the issue going on here. that's really the funds. dynamic here and you talk about moving forward there is really nothing on the surface of what we have seen over the course of last weeks and everybody the last 20 power hours that would encourage us to believe that

they are going t to be able to come together whereas they ever not been able to in the past. >> we'll give you plenty of time to talk about this in the coming days and tonight. >> reporter: all right. >> joining us now from washington is dave leventhal, senior reporter for the center for public integrity. you have been following this on al jazerra america for us. we appreciate it. give me your reaction to what's happened tonight. >> reporter: it's entirely not surprise that go it went down in the house the way that it did. the writer was on the wall d. >> one second. >> the nays are 144, the motion is adopted. without objection, a motion to reconsider is laid upon the table. >> and that makes it official. >> pursuant to clause 8 of rule 20, the unfinished bids is the question on agreeing gregg to the speaker's approval of the journal with the chair will put dinovo. the question is on agreeing to the speaker's approval of the journal, those in favor say -- >> so it's done for the evening,

now it goes to the president of the united states. go ahead, dave. >> reporter: because the president, of course, will sign it. the big question right now is what happens next. we sort of have this three-headed monster waiting for us in december, in january, and february. the congress has to get together somehow and come december and agree potentially on a path forward for the budget. come january, if they don't start putting things forward and in to motion, this then we could be in the same situation that we are with the government shutdown and then in february yet again, february 7th, my birthday of all days, it will be yet again a debt ceiling situation. although things are tranquil and peaceful right now, relatively speaking compared to the last two weeks, we have a very, very difficult situation facing us yet again. politicians have to talk about kicking the can down the road. they might as well form a soccer team at this point. this is the ultimate kick the can down the road move and really the question remains right now, are there going to be able to work on the front end and not wait until the last

minute to get something done and get something signed like they have tonight. >> all right, dave leventhal, thank you very much. we appreciate it. so the house has passed the bill. the senate has passed the bill toll reopen the government and avoid default of the federal government. there is the house of representatives. thisbility goes to the president of the united states, for his signature. he has said he will sign it immediately, if not sooner and then tomorrow is another day and we will find out wha what happe. we'll stay on top of it throughout the everything, i will be back here with a complete wrap up at 11:00 eastern, 8:00 pacific, "consider this" with antonio mora is up next after this short blake. break. closest to the story, invite hard-hitting debate and desenting views and always explore issues relevant to you.

after weeks of drama in washington we finally have ideal that brings the government back in to business. and we have the debt ceiling raised, but, again, the deal is such that it's only temporary.

as all these other deals have been and other continuing resolution that will only last a few months and we'll be back again to discuss the government shutdown in the middle of january. and raising the debt ceiling again in the middle of february. so we will be right back to have this discussion in just a few months. so, again, no real budget being passed in washington. the dysfunction continues, the vote in the house was 285-143. so you still have a majority of the republicans in the house voting against any kind of ideal. in the senate it was moreover women, almost everyone votes, almost all of the -- the majority of the republicans in the senate did vote for this bill. so the senate continues to be more moderate than the house on the republican side. but there is still some very serious divisions within the republican party and, again, no ability to cut a longer term deal that really deals with the deficit, with the debt with the real issues that face this

country think president obama talked about this deal and he said that the american people had lost trust in washington. and there is little doubt about that. the wall street journal article that talked about the winners and losers in this whole debt and government shutdown debacle said that clearly the biggest loser of all was the american people. and we want to have a discussion about all of this with a anybody of people now. the first person we want to go to to talk about the economic impact is ali veshi, host of real money joining us from washington, d.c. after all the of this drama, amie, the government will be funded until january 15 account the debt ceiling raised until february 7th. again, isn't it just a big old band aid that will have to be ripped off early next year? >> it's ridiculous, there is no victory for anybody in this thing. just the defeat the what would have been a very bad situation. it's just ridiculous. this is exactly the stuff that have seen erode public confidence in it the united states over the course of the

last several weeks. antonio, things were going fine in america, we had been growing jobs for over three years straight. sure it wasn't where we needed to be, not enough jobs, home prices going up they were starting to moderate. we were starting to see a slow down in mortgage applications because, you know, the fed was talking about tapering and interest rates went up bay a full percentage point since may. and we were ticking along. things were okay, stock market was up strongly. we start today see it peel back. this is an economy in recovery. to stick your leg out and trip a runner that's gaining momentum is what congress did. that runner stumbled but didn't fall but we are saying that watch out, we might stick our legs out again in january. it is simply irresponsible for that group of people over there to be standing in the way of a recovering economy where people are out of their jobs, they are still in homes that they can't pay mayor mortgages on. there is no victory tonight whatsoever. >> right. >> there is simply relief that it's not -- that we did not trip

ourselves and actually fall. which we would have done had we reached that debt ceiling. >> again, it happens over and over. every time this happens, as you said it hurts the economy. the bill for this gridlock is in the billions, estimates are over 20 billion. >> sure. >> it threatened a downgrade to our credit rating again. it's had a negative impact on employment, business earn beings, borrowing costs, consumer confidence took the biggest hit since 2,008. residential real estate may have suffered. >> correct. >> where due see the bulk of the impact? >> there are two problems, all the stuff you just mentioned doesn't mat some 50 members of congress that go back to air that i stood firm. they don't care that china is talking did the deamerican saying of the economy and yield rates might go up and it might be more expense five america to borrow money. they singing minded in the

focus, it doesn't matter on that side. where the impact will be felt is that remarkable intangible called confidence. this is an economy more so than most economies in the world where economic decisions are good bide decisions of that are taken by american individuals and businesses. sometimes small businesses, sometimes big businesses, this is not a plans economy. it doesn't emanate from washington it emanates from all the points across america. when those people don't feel the certain toy make investment because they don't know what will happen next, whether mortgage rates are going up or costs are borrowing or going up, people will be laid off their customers won't buy they do the safe thing and keep their money in their pockets. when individuals do that you don't think that you have an effect on the economy when a lot of people do it you show economic growth we can't afford that to happen. >> let me play devil's advocate. the stock market went up and down depending on pessimistic or optimistic about ideal. wall street seemed to som shrugf

the washington drama. they'll figure it out by the time that they have to. >> el with, i tell you two things, one is, yes, the moves on the stock market were small, but, in fact, the snp500 which is how most people are invested is down over 4% from one month ago exactly. what else could you ascribe this too? interesting rates haven't gone up in the last month. nothing else has happened, sure isome people who made 18 percent may have taken their profits, doesn't explain the drop we have seen. it's only gotta be washington that did that. that's real money. bond yields had got down, in this happened they would have gone higher. that would have cost everybody that needed to buy money and take a variable rate loan including morgue ins, this is one of those things where we don't know how booed it could have become, but why were we dallying with how booed bad it could have become. there has been a cost and a real

cost it's entirely unnecessary, it wasn't a hurricane, you could see fore coming and did damage, too bad. this is entirely foreseeable and preventable and we might be here in january and february again. >> let's hope we aren't. talking about the political players we havening badly. libby? the capitol right now. how did you see it all play out today. sorry, how did we see it all play out? give a blow by blow is that what you are asking. giants interesting 48 hours. two days ago we saw a plan really materializing from the senate and in the house of representatives really threw a curveball and said we don't like what we are seeing, we want to go our own way. but the house republicans couldn't come to agreement. there was in fighting between the moderates. the more conservative wing. speaker boehner that was offense

said was herding cats. they got blown up. we got back on the senate plan and got on a smooth glide path once we saw senate majority leader harry reid and the minority leader senator mitch mcconnell come together and handle it out. >> how ugly did it get? how divided -- how bad are the interpersonal relationships that are so necessary to come to compromise? >> reporter: the cock is a different body than it was 10, 20, 30 years ago. and some of the lions of the senate that sort of the name people give them who really are sort of phases out right now. evensen tour frank of new jersey a decembe democrat that passed s year that's the seat that cory booker won in new jersey tonight. that older generation of senators were so much more used to working across party lines. vice president biden talks about it all the time, i attended the funeral a couple of years ago to cover the funeral of senator ted

stevens of alaska who served in the senate in to his 80s and vice president biden spoke at it and he said ted stevens may have been a republican but we were friends. we worked together. our families were friends. we would fight during the day in the central@and we would spend the evening together over dinner. and you had to build coalitions across party lines in order to get anything done. well, the new generation that's come in they are not playing by those rules. you get the folks like senator ted cruz who are less concerned about building coalitions so that they can get something passed and they are more concern the about sort of their core values, what the people back home are saying, and really the a generaagenda that they bring e senate independently. >> and congress needs to work with the white house and mike have care is there. viqueira is there and mike, the president spoke tonight and he was clearly dispoint it had came to this. >> reporter: that is a theme that the president had struck throughout the course of this drama, impasse, crisis really. considering the fact that we

just walked right up to the line here of midnight on october 17th. yeah. the president at this point, however, it's a clean victory, antonio. no question about it. nobody wins, yes, the white hospital been careful not to do the victory dance, not to spike the football in the end zone, pick your metaphor, walking very gingerly around all of this. because anybody who looks at this can understand that republicans caved in the end after all the gyrations that they faced a unified december krafbdecembercontact front thros controversy, they were divided and divided they fell. press didn't have to criticize republicans anymore. certainly he has done that over the course of the last several days, he's played that outside game. he's gone to different venues, he said basically the same message in different settings and on different days. gone places where federal furloughed workers were getting discounts, went to a food bank in washington.

>> reporter: trying it pressure them. and he left it to senate democrats to be the tough guy in the person of harry reid to be the bad guy, to turn back republican bids to draw wedges between the awn identified and solid democratic stand and it didn't work, republicans caved and now the president is seizing the initiative. they have laid on al jazerra an event tomorrow at 10 tater that's. the president will talk about the agenda moving forward and tonight he did strike a conciliatory tone because between now and election day, between now and january 15 account, when we are going to go through this crisis or at least this exercise all over again because the next spending bill expires then, the president is going to try to push again for immigration, perhaps even gun control. although that's sort of a far bridge at this point. there is also the farm bill, some of the mundane things that they have been unable do in congress because of all the gridlock. >> let's hope we are not in this gridlock again in january but i

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more than boys, boys commit suicide five and a half times more than girls, there are nearly nine boys in correctional facilities to every one girl. and every major school shooter has been male. a new book takes an extensive look at what it means to raise boys in an increasingly complex society called masterminds and wingmen. helping boys cope with the new rules of the boy world. roslyn is the author, thank you for joining us. your earlier book, queen bees and wannabes is the basis for the movie mean girls, you have experience taking a look at girls compared to boys, more girls are going to college than boys, getting more advanced decrease. degrees. we mentioned the terribly high rate of suicide among boys compared to girl hour we failing boys? >> we are not giving them a language to talk about the things most important to them.

their friends, relationships, their relationships that they have with adults, thousand talk about things when they are having problems in their lives. and we offense just say boys are simple. and they get in fights they punch each other and it's over. their lives are more complex than that, and we often give them sound bites to handle some of life's moment complex problems and boys don't know what to. >> you interviewed two hound boys, they participatesed in the book. you named them all at the end of the book. >> they did. >> and found that they have deeply motional lives and they pose unique challenges. >> well, yes. i want to say even though i have worked with boys and girls for 20 years i never would have written a book about without without including them. not i want viewing them but they literally went through every single page saying this is what my mom needs to know, my dad needs to negotiation this is what life looks like to me,

these are the problems that i have these are the ways i want adults to talk to may they were incredibly honest with me about the things we are doing that make it really difficult for them to reach out and get help when they need it. because it's so often appears to them that if they ask for help, or if they feel like they are struggling, that there is something wrong with them. something weak about them. and so they suffer in silence, many boys are suffering in misery and not talking about it and people know what happens is that boys say, i am good, no matter what the answer, is no matter how they are really feeling. >> so why so much written about how boys and girls really aren't that given in fact, you believe that's not the case and that boys need to have their needs -- need to have their own needs addressed differently. it's really a misconception that girls are easier to raise than boys. >> well, here is what i think. i think that we have given a tremendous amount of attention to girls. and that's important because girls are living in a world where the culture is giving them some really toxic messages about

they have to be sort of hyper section liesed to be valued. that they have to dumb themselves down, but at the same time, there are all these people and programs there is a language that counteracts those messages, boys don't have that. we put boys in boxes and that we would never put up with girls we sea sexist things like they are stupid nothing is going on in their heads that we would never allow for girls. i think what happens is boys look at this and think, well, i can't tell anybody what's going on because if i do, they are not going to believe me. and if i do say something then there is something wrong with me, and so they really do have a tendency to say i'll just take care of it myself. i won't say anything to anybody. >> social media question let's go for hermela for that. >> we do. we found in section in the atlantic comment section it's often filled with lots of nonsense bickering but this comment stood out to us and i

would like to get your response. user eric who by his own admission is male, says, since we as a male dominanted culture associate things like sensitivity and kindness with weakness, we refer to them as, quote, unquote, feminine. it is a hatred of women not men that leads to these assumptions and actions and end up hurting boys and men as well. whawhat would you is toy that? >> i would say i agree. what really important is that we offense, time for social media parents often ask me about things like, well, when should i get my son, you know, his first facebook page or their twitter account or a cell phone. a mobile phone. and i really have to tell you, that going back to sort of how we interact with each other in social media, that for most boys and frankly for girls as well, but for most boys, where they are learning about how to behave

towards each other is on online and video games, i actually have much business problem with violent content in a game than i do on the ways in which as soon as people start interacting online the toxic way that people are going after each other. let me give you an example because games are supposed to really -- good games are supposed to be amazing for creativity at thi and boys neede the right kind of risks to be able to fail. one of the reasons they do so paorpoorly in academics is theye so worry about failing and don't put themselves in dangerous situations if you are in a video and do something that you might make a mistake and somebody goes after you learn to not take the risks which is an amazing actual bridge between what people are learning in video games for both better and for worse and also what kids may or may not be doing in their academics because with h we need to tame a risk ad to keep up and get going and keep going. and that's something that is so

tied to what it should be to be a strong and confident man, to get up and keep going. triumph over adversity but if you are afraid to put yourself in a situation where you truly might failure compromising yourself in all different kind of ways. >> you talked earlier about the over sectio sexual saying. we have seen teenage boys, stubenville, ohio, maryville, missouri and in those cases the towns forgive the boys and blame the victims, why is that happening? what responsibility to the parents have in those situations? >> parents and adults have a very difficult time being self reflective and owning their part in this. one of the things that i found in the boys book that was most troubling to me, was that even the most well-meaning parents, never talked to their boys about relationships. about having your heart broken, about having a crush. about having somebody betray

you, they never talked about it. even if you did, on the rare times that you did talk to boys, one of the things that people do is they say you know no means no, right? as if they think a boy will rape a girl if given a chance, we don't give them a chance to talk about having relationship. if they are not getting anything but sound bites from adults like make the right choices or decision or really negative sounds bites just don't bring pee back any grandchildren or think with your other head. that was seriously some of the most common things i heard from kids about parents is that if they get those kind of sound ed by and at the same time, they are in situations with boys where they have learned that the boys have the most social power, you never should confront them because you are going to lose. then you add onto that, that at these parties, drinking or drugs or taking pictures of people doing things embarrassing, are normal, mean common, all of this stuff co los co lose, so the boy

doesn't have a trigger to say something is is run offing off the rails and doesn't have the skills to speak out. what if that was your sit ore are mother. them they participate in something awful like what you are describing and the adults have no way to process it and won't look at themselves and what they are doing that contributes to it. the other part, boys will be boys if it includes assaulting people, at the very base adults need to say because it's common doesn't make it right and i will hold you responsible, whatever way you contribute to this, including forwarding the information or the picture or the gossip that was sent about the victim. >> and you have a lot of very specific information and advice for parents in the book the book is masterminds & wingmen. we thank you for your time

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on inside story, we bring together unexpected voices closest to the story, invite hard-hitting debate and desenting views and always explore issues relevant to you. one of the most continue very hal and impactful moments in sports history took place 45 years ago wednesday, at the

mexico city olympics. after winning gold and bronze medals in the 200-meter race, american splitters tommy smith and john carlos raised black gloved fists as a national anthem played it was a powerful and shocking protest against racial injustice, that demonstration resonates again toss a with near the 2014 winter olympics in the russian city of sochi because russia has pass ahead series of laws that discriminate against homosexuals, should today's athlete take a similar stand? joining us from washington, d.c. is al jazerra america contradict tour dave, sports h editor for e nation host of edge. edge of the sports radio and author of game over. good to have you back, dave. 45 years ago, let's put the moment in context. the '68 olympics came during a time which the your honor was at war in vietnam after martin luther king, jr. had been assays nateed and after bobby kennedy had been killed, he was also a very strong supporter of civil

rights, marchs and demonstrations all over the country people taking our sorts of different stances and these two men win their medals and get up on that stand and as the national anthem plays, we raise their fists. there was tremendous backlash at that point against them. how big was that the in larger scheme. >> it was a moment that changed the world. it was more than a moment it was a movement. if you look at the picture you'll he notice tommy smith, john carlos and the silver medalist are all wearing the same patch on their chest that has those words olympic project for human rights, this is hey move that had been going on for several years that stood on four key planks, one was on getting more african-american coaches hired by the u.s. olympic committee. one was get apartheid out africa and rhodesia banned from the olympic games because of their

policies of racial exclusion. one of the demands was about restoring mohamed ali's boxing title it huh been stripped because of his opposition to the what are in vee he had man and the dangerous demand was saying avery the man they dubbed slavery avery because of his own racial pal ticks would have to step down as heads of the international olympic kid i. kid i. that's the crazy thing about it they suffered so much abuse for this taking at that stand. now all those demands seem like they are on the right side of history. >> critics still argue that they politicized the olympics. we then four years later saw the horror in munich, then the u.s. boycotted the moscow olympics, the russians boycotted the la l. olympics, so much politics it just wasn't the right time to take that stand. is there any los angeles va lit >> no, because i think one of the things that these guys were

standing for was the idea that the olympics need to stand by their own charter. and the charter of the olympic games take very strong stance against any sorts of exclusion and discrimination. that's what makes it beyond apples and oranges compared to things like the terror attacks in munich or countries using the olympics as a chess piece in cold war politics, this was about athletes from below actually using sports as a platform to say, hey, the olympic games have all this wonderful language about sit tear hood and brotherhood yet they ever an open bigot and fascist sympathize never charge in avery bun doubling and policy that his limit the participation of black athletes from african countries that have apartheid poll a atpolicies. and i have to say on a die like today where we have all these taxiing politics coming out of washington this was a moment of the politics of in inspiration,e idea that ordinary people from

young rural george and one from the heart of in, can say wait a minute, politics is for us too. >> russia has passed very strict laws, citizens will be fines if they are caught doing any of the following. publicly acknowledge that you are gay, publicly support equal rights for games, provide information on home sexuality to minors and before that law had been passed russia had also barred adoption of russian children by games from any country. of course, the winter olympics will be in russia and sochi in february. should athlete take a public stand there like smith and carlos did in '68 in. >> if they feel compelled that they need to speak then they have every right to do so. i mean, let's keep in mind, these athletes will be stressed like nascar cars with all swords of ads and sponsors of the olympic games, there is something profoundly hit critical that they are shill for multinational corporation on his the metal stand if they can't speak up for themselves or perhaps a game relative or an

lgbt friends. i mean park it's just beyond hypocrisy that they can't actually express their own views. and you know, i went to the source on this one, i asked john carlos himself, from those '68 olympics what he thought athletes should do today. should they boycott, should they go and speak. and he said, he said, look, athletes don't just have muscles and legs they have minds. and if they want to express those minds, they have to live with what they do and they have to live with what they don't do. and he pointed out to me that the people back in 1968 who have regrets aren't him and tommy smith, they are the people who were there in 1968 and chose to do nothing. >> an important moment in history and very relevant for today. appreciate you being with. the show may be over but the conversation continues on our website "consider this".com/considerthis. also going to aj at consider this. we'll see you next time.

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