>> a shocking new report about how animals are treated on the sets of movies covered up

injuries, diseases and even fatalities. consider this, is the statement in the credits that kno no anims were harmed in the making of this film worthless. >> dna test are supposed to reveal your true genetic makeup how accurate are the tests marketed on-line and on tv. >> the holiday season is a big time for holiday. this year won't disapoint. they are working with the wolf of wall street and we'll tell you what moves are worth seeing. we are beginning with thanksgiving. the unofficial start of the oscar season. this year the moviegoers and animal lovers may want to pay more attention to the pledge that no animals were harmed during the filming. a stunning investigation on how animals are treated on tes tv ad film sets detail injuries and even deaths. in "life of pi" and "the hobbit"

and "unexpected journey". the story "no animals were harmed". >> gary good to see you thanks for doing this for us. the american humane association is the organization that is charged to monitoring tv and film to ensure that animals are treated properly your investigation says they are not doing their job. correct. we found that the claims that they are making in public are different than the ones than they have internally. >> some cases are extreme. let's take "the hobbit". what happened there was something that the ama didn't victoriinvestigate when 27 animd from exhaustion and in many cases a drowning. >> we found that a trainer that brought that information to them was rebuffed. the aha was not interested in finding out why that offset production facility the holding facility for those animals was

not properly checked to make sure that was safe. and they did not want to discuss those issues not exactly what you would expect of a self pro hprofessed robust animal welfare organization. >> isn't the whole system, to put it in the simplest terms silly? the reality is the aha has a inherent conflict of interest because the money that funds it comes from the holiday hollywood production companies. >> correct. that's true. it's always been. the aha is funded almost entirely by it's film and tv operations which is operations that send out these on set monitors through grant funds bestowed by the sagastra actors union. and the association of motion picture and television producers. the industries and studios and networks pay for this service and it's privatized and it seems

not to be working. the bengal tiger the real one nearly drowned in a water tank when he was snagged with a rope and dragged to the side of a tank. a dog was punched by it's trainer on the set of "eight below" and there was aer isibler a terrible disaster four horses died in hbo shooting. >> thesethings continue to happen. and what seems to be taking place is we have a system that the aha feels it's a collaborator and it's not an independent force that is what is needed a truly independent monitoring service that can ensure safety first. right now, we have a situation where the aha seems to be bending over backwards for it's industry patrons

and the results is that working with animals is not always the first thing that gets out and what is important the "no animals were harmed" credit which is a broad statement doesn't hold true. >> what does it mean in the end. you also write that there are very few people that go on to these sets for a very short period of time. >> occasionally is under staffed staffed. it took me an investigative reporter month the of work to work into what is going on on these sets to obtain internal documents of intersectio inter s and they bring up all sorts of details. the fact is they don't have answers to the larger issues

which is accountability and oversight. they have the ability to investigate. they have certified humane officers to issue citations to make arrests. here in los angeles the da relies on it to persue animal cruelty not the police. they don't do these things. the public trust and various manifestations have been entrusted to us. we have a viewer question for you. >> gary, does each production involving animals have their own animal advocate on set? and how are they held accountable? >> sag after productions because of this grant have these monitors on set, i believe most of the time there are holes where there are late notifications or distant locations and different things come up where they are not there.

but basically what happens is the on set monitor oversees the action and writes up reports on a daily basis on what they find. and then send it into headquarters for review. >> the aha says in a lengthy statement they sent to us that your piece is a massive overreaction and the article paints a picture that is completely unrecognizable to us or anyone who knows the american humane association's work. what do you say to that? >> what else are they going to say, that we got busted? there is not much for them to say. it's not a surprise that they say that they don't recognize things, because they are not looking. they like to turn a blind eye. i spoke to many people inside of the organization and they -- there is a massive issue with them not looking at what is going on. and there is a discrepancy between those on the ground and those in a position of power. they are in damage control mode

now. so what happens now? what will the aha do and will the u.s. department of agriculture get involved? >> it's to be determined. a lot of it has to deal with public sentiment. when these controls and measures were put into place deck aith decades ago, animal use in film and tv is not where it is now. here in 2013 people care about these things deeply and on a granular level. at ha has not kept up with times and they are out of step. as far as the industry and the industries' political arm will step in and do something or the usda will take notice or congress will take notice we'll have to see. >> gary interesting piece thank you for joining us and talking about it. >> thanks for having me. >> while american films declare no animals were harmed. one organization can say with

pride that animals were saved from harm. the rescue of lions in a traveling circus in bolivia is the focus after a documentary. >> it's like a human being being forced to live in their bathroom for their lives. giving them something to do a bit of fun and something to play with. joining me now to talk about the film january kramer and the president of animal defenders international which works globally for the protection of animals and bob barker the leg legendary animal rights activist. he financed the rescue of these lions featured in the film. january jan i want to start wit. your organization has lobbied across the world to get laws passed banning circle animals.

you managed to do it in bolivia. the first country to do if. t. o it. two years later you find out that they had lions in horrific conditions it makes for a suspenseful documentary. let's look at you in action. in is not so stop it. >> some frightening moments there, jan. a whole number of circuses and a couple of dozen lions you saved. >> it was 29 lions in total and

two res rescues. it focuses on the rescue of the whole of the 25 from bolivia. and as you say we worked undercover for two years. we released the findings to the public and the bolivian congress. and they decided they didn't want this going on in their country and they didn't want animals to suffer behind the scenes for a few minutes of entertainment. they were determined to ban them them. they stopped all animals from traveling in circuses. it was a year later when we went back to see if the government would back down by working with the government we were able to show them we were determined to enforce this law. >> bob you were have been a stand up activist for a very long time

and you refer to the circus as your arch enemy. >> i do. weren't you impressed with the way that jan handled that situation? for a petite, very lady-like lady, she can really be pretty tough, can't she? >> she can. she was there. so why do you think the circus is the arch enemy, bob? >> i believe they are the arch enemy because they abuse animals not just lions and tigers but el elephants and chimps you name it. they abuse the animals and in some cases kill the animals. and they cause the animals to have absolutely miserable lives. i have said in speeches yo i speech es i hae made the best day of their lives

is the day it dice. >> we have you speaking about this exactly how do they beat them? with actio axe handles and golf clubs they shock them and they never know is a day that is pleasurable. and finally after 20 or 30 or maybe 40 years they die. and that day they die is probably the best day of their lives. isn't that a horrible thought. >> it is a horrible thought. how pervasive is the problem? >> how many circuses in the world. i don't think there is a circus in any place in any country. certainly in the united states. we hope that the united states will become as civilized as

bolivia and cause all circuses to stop using animals. in equador and peru and columbia you arklumcolombia you are tryie the efforts around the world. we are working hard and we have legislation next year. we have a bill in the parliament of england and a ban in greece and el salvador of and this is a worldwide movement. people don't want to see animals suffer for enter containment. for enentertainment. when people see how these animals live and are treated and your arare suffering they don'to go to the animal circus. there are circuses that can survive without animals.

this is a worldwide movement and we see the united states is going to get on board. >> they have collected information of animal abuse for years you show it sparingly in the film. how do the animals suffer? the animals have been shown to have feelings. what is it that they feel. >> it's the depp pewe prosecutes owner for cruelty to an elephant. one of the experts said, in his opinion the fact that she was chained to the ground 24-hours-a-day for weeks and weeks on end, probably caused more pain and suffering because of her arthritis. then the actual beatings that she endured. as we say in the film we look at the lions who spent his whole life in a tiny cage, 12 years

234 ina tiny cage, nothing to do, bare walls and bare bars and bare floors. and absolutely nothing to stimulate him. as you say these are intelligent feeling creatures. they have forms of communication. they have a will to live. they suffer fear and pain and stress just as we do. it's that depp pe deprivation often that is far worse than the beatings. >> they demonstrate it in many ways in the paces and they though ishowthat in many ways lk about the positive points of the film. >> bob you flew them thousands of miles. a lot of laughter and a great moment.

now? we have beautiful images of the sanctuary. >> at long last they are living the way that nature intended for lions to live. and the difference between the expressions on their faces and the difference in their attitude from what it was back in bolivia is absolutely astounding. and heart warming. they are behaving like little kittens now. running around and wrestling and sleeping with their heads on each other. it brought a lump to my throat. it really did. >> and it happened almost immediately. >> immediately. >> they went from horrible fee precioudepression to happiness. >> stepping out to what they knew that their life was going to be from now on. they seemed to have sense it.

they were like at last we have been release and the last we can live like nature intended. they began from the first moment and they are still living as happily today it'. >> it's great to see and we appreciate you joining us today to bring us this wonderful story.

if you want to know what the dna says about your health shouldn't be you be able to get that information. is this a case of government protection. joining us is is the author of the book. and thank you very much both of you for joining us tonight. hank i want to start with you. 23 and me is the most suck fess successful dna company. you can get ancestry and what

health complications you may be facing. >> they look at themselves as the first step in the mi mitigation of these diseases. why is the fda telling them to not market the product. marketing the themselves as the first step they are saying "we are a medical device" we are being sold with the purpose of helping people with their life. medical services are regulated because they are accurate and they do a good job. they are regulated because the people using them are going to understand the results and acted on them appropriately. that is two concerns that the fda has with 23 and me. >> one concern is the accuracy of the medical devices and the fda says they have not proven that they are accurate.

what do you say about that ron? what kind of accuracy do these kits have. >> frank is right, the fda has jurisdiction over these devices. but i suggest they are moving a little hand-fistly. one whicone way to measure accus if you gave the sai same test or and over again to the same person would you get the same result. >> in that case they are bein accurate. another question is what they might be calling clinical have a validity. and that is probably a little more concern by the fda is when the company says you have this particular result does it mean anything in regard to your health for sure? is there anything clinical you can do about it? and the answer is and in most cases, no.

this is the first step in the ongoing process. it's not an instep it's the way for us to link. learn. the fda is getting in the way of the process. >> it's a new way of looking at health and predicting the future. >> and hank the fda said they bring up the braka gene. and somebody may get a mastectomy and they had a false positive. >> it's a big country and i

would never say "nobody" i'm worried about the other side of it. i'm worried about the woman who gets the result i don't have a mutation and i'm not at a high is being for breast cancer. and thank god i don't have to get those mammogramsfully more. more -- anymore. the average women's risk is 12% and if you have a mutation it's like 80%. if you don't have a mutation it's down to 11-pnt -79d%. 11.79%. what this means is the possibility is real. the absence of a professional trained intermediary to help people understand what this means for them. >> i see ron shaking his head.

if you look at their information page they are constantly dealing with these things. the test for -- it's basically has a 1:12 false negative rate. which suggests then that there are limits to all of these tests anyway and that people who, for example, test negative for hiv and they have it are able to harm other people as well. yet the fda allows that to go forward as a test. i suggest to you that the false-negative rate for the test that is being offered by 23 and me is considerably

lower. the fda is over stepping their authority here. it's a matter of caveat emptor. should a person be able to self treat without consi consulting a doctor. >> 23 and me should require that you go through a medical professional. the same way if you get a mri scan for your brain. it's worked in some sector of the economy and it's not worked in other areas of the world. we have quacks and it's confusing and complicated and they need help. and putting it on a web page so people can read it is not a guarantee that anyone is going

to read it or if they read it understand it. >> ron have the half million customers that have been served by 23 and me already, has anyone been harmed by their results? >> i have been looking around to find examples and i can't find any. there has to be someone that has complained by something obviously it's not a huge problem as far as i can tell there have been no complaints whether olodged by the fda and e things that the fda might want to do instead of closing down the company that they may do in the next two weeks if they don't get the answers they like back. call up and survey the customers and find out what the experience have been and see if we have any complaints or confusion and move from there. >> or alternatively. >> go ahead. >> i'm going to say alternative alternative 23 and me could have done that

and presented the information to the fda. >> let's talk about that. the the fda says despite numerous ohelse e-mails and correspondence they have not received any communication from 23 and me since may. are they acting in good faith? >> you would have to ask them and they won't give you an answer i don't know what is going on . it's like a police officer putting on the lights behind you and you keep driving for six months. they have not communicated with

the fda and not only are they not communicating they have started a big advertising program as well. they say they have worked extensively with 23 and me to get the company approved and so what is wrong. why are they not taking the steps needed to go ahead full tilt with what they need to do. >> i completely agree that the company has made a major misstep here. they should have stayed in contact with the fda. e congress should consider loosening up the regulations people are not using these devices -- there is very little evidence that people are using these in ways that harm themselves. and i think that it might be a good idea to revisit the regulations over tile. overtime. >> where do you see the industry going, ron? >> i think we are at the very beginning of a golden age of

molecular medicine. these activities ar these tests are going to help doctors and technicians to start treating people overtime that is not going to happen immediately. >> so far the data is being gathered. they have several projects where they gathered at tha data from r clients and to figure out how intervention in medicine can take place to help with their health. again it's early days. i see in 20 years a complete transformation in medicine and we have specific treatment for people with very few side effects. >> hank do you agree it's been reported that 23 and me are on a drive to set up a million new clients. do you think they'll get the fda approval and this will be a thriving industry soon. >> i don't know what is going to

happen with 23 and me. i do know that mow lecavalier mr medicine is going to take off. we are moving on to genome sequencing tec technologies thee getting cheaper and cheaper and that is going to affect healthcare and we need to figure out how to do it in a safe and responsible way. >> we appreciate you joining us. thanks very much.

>> what makes for a good biography. >> kitty her book capturing camelot. has iconic images of the kennedys. >> it's a departure of those it

feet your features jfk kitty kelly joining joins us from washington, d.c. your first major tell all was jackie. >> that's right. why lead you down this road and why choose jackie? >> i have been absolutely fascinated by jackie kennedy. >> i didn't think it was possible to write a biography about her that would be news worthy. because th at the time i tried o do it there was 43 books written on her. i infe interviewed a lot of peoe close to the family and close to mrs. onassis which she was at the time i wrote it. i believe writing an unauthorized biography. unauthorized does not mean untrue. it means you are doing it

without the subject's cooperation or approval. would you like to do one with the subject's cooperation? >> no. >> really. >> because you give up editorial control. , if you arso if you are writint jacqueline kennedy onassis, of course i wouldn't be able to talk about the president's womanizing or the things that really affected their marriage. primarily not so much the womanizing, although she go not know about it and she tolerated. >> it was the awful health problems that dogged jfk for so much of his life. i don't think anybody realizes all of the sicknesses and the botched surgeries and the awful diagnosises that he had. and that really was a burden. and she would not have allowed

that to be published because that goes against the image of this vigorous young new frontiers man. >> you have come full circle. how did she receive your book, do you know? >> she has never -- she being mrs. onassis has never really made a comment on any book. but, she was incensed when ben bradley wrote his memoir and she never spoke to him again. >> when red faye wrote a book on the president which was a really lovely book he sent three thousand dollars to the kennedy library in broi royalties and se ripped the checkup and sent it back. and she could not stand to have anything even real written about the president. when manchester to whom she had given absoulte access to everybody wrote his book, she sued him.

hum. >> so it would be very, very hard in a sense. >> right. >> to get the kind of approval that you would like for a book. now on capturing camelot, i was absolutely delighted to hear from the kennedy library and i flew to boston and i signed books that they have on sale up there. and another thing, i have no compun have. compunction because awful of the profits go to the dc public libraries the obama's compare to the kennedys and celebrities love them and he is a gifted speaker. why do you see them being so different from the kennedys? >> i think it's a different time an different era and it's a different everything. on those things they are very similar.

mrs. obama as a first lady is ferocious about the protection about her two children and as was jackie kennedy. she too is a fashion plate and cares very, very much about clothes and how she looks and the image she presents, as did jackie kennedy. president obama is as gifted as kennedy was intellectually. they even wept t went to the sae school and they both fine orders. and lots of teeth. and lots of prett iness. you have covered so many subjectses from oprah and 23457bsy reagan and more. what do you want to write about. >> i only choose people that have really left a foot print on our land scape. i choose people that are very much alive and have influenced

our culture and have had immense power over us in that sense. and everyone that i have chosen for about biography i have been in awe a little bit. and wanted to go behind the curtain for the public image and what they are like. it was kennedy himself that said what makes a biography so interesting and fascinating is the search to find out what is he really like. going behind the curtain has made you face criticism. nancy sinatra said she hopes you get hit by a truck. oprah was so unhappy with her book semi got you black-balled. are their reactions fair. >> i think those reactions are typical. these people have spent a lifetime millions of dollars

building up a public image. so they don't welcome a biography. byography is pervasive because you are getting into the marrow of someone's bone and find out what they are really like. and when it came to oprah winfrey i think she was extremely angry that her father had given me so much time and talked to me at length about her. and in the case of sinatra he had sued me before i had written a world. he sued to stop the book and scare the publisher. >> there are some cases where you have been attacked from the accuracy is there anything you don't regret. >> i don't think i have really been attacked on the accuracy. i have never lost a lawsuit in the 30 some years i have been writing. and i have been sued probably

most famously by franksy gnat interest and he had to drop his lawsuit after a year. so on accuracy i haven't been sued. on the fact that i have close ento right what i have written has unnerved some people. >> quickly, who of all of your subjects have you liked the most? >> it's not a matter of who you like the most. the book you like the best is the book that you finish last because you don't think you will ever be able to produce it. i was fascinated by everyone i wrote about. i did a three generational sawing ga on the bush family. denounced by the bush family for writing about it. oprah winfrey is still one of the most powerful people in our country today. nancy ray again, enriched the

reagan presidency in ways positive and negative. frank sinatra to me was absolutely fascinating. so i can't tell you who i liked better than the other one. i really loved doing them all. >> it must have been fast naiting to delve intoing their lives. kitty kelly thank you for your time. and joining us.

back. >> today's data dive focuses on the longer work lives of millenials. the new research shows the average student graduating from

college will not be able to retire until they are 73 years old. a dozen years later than the current retirement age. so much for eyeing 65 and to start the so-called "easy living" the financial website nerd wallet.com found out that the typical grad comes utah with $63,000 of debt. it's tough to find a job when you leave school. they have a heavy debt load and that leaves them less than 250 $2,500 in savings when they turn 23. half of them don't expect to collect social security. intuit reports that 43% of workers will be freelance by the next decade. millenials want to find passion and meaning in their job so they don't see their job as something they want to leave and so maybe late retirement won't be bad for

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ron burgundy. anchorman ii will be opening in a couple of weeks. we have the former arts editor for npr. and ben man kowitz joins us. guys glad to have you back as ails. always. some of the biggest movies come at the etched of th end of end . "hunger games" and "catching fire sex. the hobbit didn't do as well as the lord of the rings and you will see the hunger games and catching fire and the hobbit up

after iron man iii at the top of the box office of. >> ben holidays are big times when the families go to movies. what are the best choices you can see. >> . >> first of all let me just say to what bill says. i'm not sure anybodiers ar anybt happened at the end of the hobbit. >> bill said you remember what happened at the end of the hobbit n. no tell me what happened at the end of the hobbit. frozen is a wonderful family film. not only can adults tolerate it it could be a date might movie too. it's a sweet story about sisters. >> what about walking with dinosaurs 3-d? that would be the thing i would

want to go to if i was ten years old, bill. >> that does look like a nice movie. and frozen could be a sleeper hit as well. the final family movie we have to remember is "saving mr. banks". it's a story about how walt disney created the "mary poppins"s story. even though it's a disney story and about marr "mary poppins"s. it could be a big hit at the end steof the year. >> i saw mr. banks which is story about disney and i saw if on the disney lot. as it's going through you. i can see where this is going. holiday loves to make

movies hollywood, like argo. and in a sense you know you are being manipulated in this movie and you are being manipulated by this music. and there are so many things and at the end of the movie i'm looking around. people are wiping enormous buckets of tears from their eyes i was surprised at how much i liked saving mr. banks. >> on a completely different theme. we have something based on a poem, black nativity. bill? >> that is a really interesting movie. the woman that directed it directed a interesting movie eave eve's bio. it's rare to have female directors in hollywood. it's a classic play that was based on christmas carols and it's a movie if it's marketed

right it may cross over and be a fairly significant film. talking about police tyg film . i have to piggy back on what they said about that. he was talking about she played in silence of the lambs. she was clarice starling jodi foster's partner. and the woman she bounced ideas off. iv i thought that was cool that they both went on to be directors . oscar buzz there has been a lot of it. i'm sure you will see nominations for best movie and best actor for 12 years of slaves. martin scorsese has a movie

coming out" th out "the wolf ofl street". i wasn't age t able to make a screening today. two of my co-hosts saw it today and everybody cale ou came out g about there was no better director working today than russel. >> that includes jennifer lawrence, right, bill? is she becoming the star of the moment? >> she is one of the stars coming from -- a lot of these stars like bruce willis i think he pioneered this thing of being a big action star and doing quirky movies. she is doing that from a young age. she is in american hustle and in the hunger games and she is doing really great. if she can keep up this career she can get that kind of move her whole career she is going to be an interesting figure.

maybe soft of a robert downey jr. where she is doing blockbusters and has this indie credibility. talking about another oscar contender. it has merrill streep. she has one or two nominations. >> and julia roberts. yes. and that has a big impressive cast in that movie. >> i don't know if any of you watch "homeland". he plays the conniving senator in "homeland". >> the futurer head of the cia. >> yeah. >> i don't like that guy. >> what an enormously talented guy he is. another area of the oscars, we have the secret liv life of walr

middy. this is remake of the 1947 movie. it's directed by ben stiller. sean penn and shirley mclean. andthis has some buzz. some people are bored by it and some people think it's the best movie of the year. and also in that drama category so far a movie i saw teluride. and we have the cullen brothers inside lou and davis. it's losely based on the folk scene. at the edge o end of the 1950s. it looks unusual for the cohen brothers. and i like what ben said about "nebraska".

it's a really rough first act but the second acted is really terrific and interesting portrait of america. and i hope bruce durn gist gets a nomination. >> definitely oscar worthy. >> let's talk about comedies. >> for obvious reasons. i wasn't a fan of anchorman i i suppose i won't be a fan of anchorman ii. that is a movie i didn't hear anyone clamoring for. >> i don't know if you are right about that. you should talk to our staff they all wanted a anchorman ii. the marketing has become per pervasive and highly annoying. >> ben you wanted to say something. anchorman was an interesting movie. i couldn't have laughed harder.

i i shuts must have seen anchor0 times. >> yoyou are probably very alon, ben. >> no i'm not. >> you have people on your staff there. my brother is a correspondent. he is like you he hates it. he couldn't hate it more. i think it's one of the ten funniest movies i have seen in my life. i'm incredibly eager for the sequel. >> i'm not sure i will have you back as a movie critic, ben. >> let's talk about other comedies. tyler perry's me da christmas. >> tyler perry is not going to get the response he wants. he has made 5 many movies and ty don't cost very much to make. there are a lot of black 2450e78 theme movies. in the last couple of months. we are going to se see an unusul cluster of them at the end.

we'll see which one crosses over. >> one other comedy worth emergencying, "grudge match", ben? >> i am looking forward to grudge match too -- wel if thers grudge match too it will be good too. i am looking forward to grudge match also. too often comedies seem aimed at 14 and 15 and 16-year-old's. i was not my funniest when i was 14 and 15 and 16. i lions gate bridg like the idet comedies and when they are not good they are horrible sly is a is stall

one's movies keep going and going and going. there is a key ano reeves movie. it's a classic japanese story of someone who whose honor is slain and they practice for years to avenge the death it's' keanu reeves movie. it's going to be the big action movie of the year. let me jump in there about "home front "and we reviewed it today what is interesting about home front is that it was while stallone wrote it and it was originally intended to be the

next chapter in the john rambo story and they backed off of that used stallone's script. the consensus was it may have been better if it stayed as a rambo maple lea movie and we woa little more character identification. >> it's been great to have you both. >> you missed it on anchorman. >> you have to give it another shot. >> i will try. the show may be over but the conversation continues on our website. you can also find us on twitter at aj consider this. we'll see you next time. ♪

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