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ray into in denmark is under fire after deciding to kill a giraffe and fed its remains to the lions. >> this is the most abominable, innocence tiff, ridiculous thing i have ever heard. [ screaming ] backstage there are a ton of other people back there, you are nude or in a little thong or whatever. >> a lot of girls they are saying are an rex i go are literally 14 years old. ♪ ♪ we begin with michael stam and the possibility of a historic moment in sports. the college football star's public declaration that he's game three months before the nfl draft. puts him in position to be the first openly game player in the nfl. >> i understand how big this is, this is a big deal.

no one has done it. and it's a -- kind of a nervous process. but i know what i want to be. i want to play a snap in the nfl. >> sam's revelation on espn was praised in official statements not white house to the nfl which says it admired his courage. but a homophobic backlash has followed i am joined by chris kluwe who has been outspoken about equality in the nfl. he's in irvine, . and dave zion sports editor at the nation, author of the book game over. he's also a contributor to al jazerra american, good to have you both with us. dave i want to start with you. overall a lot of support for sam. but sports illustrated interviewed eight nfl executives and coaches who anonymously said that the nfl draft is going to make sam's path to the league daunting and that the publicity will be a problem. your reaction to that?

>> it's incredibly disconcerting. you gave some of the less imflammatory statements said by the nfl g.m.s. >> we'll get to in the imflammatory ones in a moment. >> sure. sure. but saying that a game player would chemically imbalance a locker room is pretty bad in the grand scheme of things. the part about it that i found the most distressing was that none of these anonymous nfl executives were willing to actually own their own homophobia. they put it all on the players. they said the locker room is not ready. it's the players who aren't ready. it made mite take a decade, two decades. instead of saying this is actually our problem. one of the things that michael sam said was that he wanted to own his own truth. i don't think nfl executives have owned their own truth and that's that they have a bigotry problem. >> all right, let's listen to some of the or i'll give you some of the quotes, they were very blunt. one of them said, it's one thing to have chris kluwe or brendan ayanbedejo advocates for game

rights on your team it's another to have a current con flipped player. another of the executives or coach to his call somebody a game slur is so commonplace as you mentioned, dave, he said it would chemically imbalance an nfl locker room and meeting room. chris, since your name came up with one of those quotes, do you think it's different to have a confirmed player out there and you commented on twitter today, that the story shows that it's not the players really that are the problem, that the front office is the problem. >> yeah. and it's really disturbing to see, you know, men who are supposed to be in leadership positions, these are the people who are running teams, have this viewpoint because it really shows you that what they are thinking about is their own problems, their own difficulties with dealing with the game player and i am reminded in a lot of the richard sherman situation in where the word thug was used as a code word for something much uglier, in this situation the word being deuce

ao*us second degree distraction. everyone is saying michael sam will be a distraction, distraction to the players, distraction to this and that. what they are saying is i don't want a game player on my team but i know i can't say that, so i will make up something else that sounds a bit more plausible. we need to call them on it. >> dave, in effect, as chris is say, they are almost just blaming the media. you have said that the comments are cowardly. >> absolutely. they are cowardly. a lot of these nfl g.m.s are people that like to affect this persona of being tough guys, you know, real kind of mill terries tick tough guys. and here they are, they sounded frankly very weak and sounded very scared and they sounded like they were completely incapable of confronting the realities of the 21st century. and i think former nfl player, donté stallworth really did say it best. he said if having a game player say distraction on your team, you know what that means, it means that you have a loser of a team. because the entire nfl season is made up of distractions. >> michael sam said that he had

told his teammates in missouri in august that he was game. and that they have been supportive. let's listen to that. >> hopefully players see that they don't judge me by -- because i am gay, they see this person works hard, can he win us games, can he win us a championship. i can. i can. it's a workplace, you want to act professional. >> and you know, in effect, chris, he played the whole season, his teammates had no problem supporting him. had no problem keeping his secret. until he was ready to come out and do this publicly. so if college players can do it, why can't nfl players deal with this? >> right, exactly. and that's the thing, if this is the kind of distraction that michael sam is going to be, well, any team should welcome that distraction. i mean, mizzou went 11-2 i think. they had a phenomenal season. >> 12-2 i think, yeah. >> and really -- yeah, 12-2. and when you look at the distractions the nfl has had to

deal with, stuff like mike vick, riley cooper last year, or, you know, tim tebow or, you know, aaron hernandez, there has been so many other things that the nfl has dealt with and somehow the league kept going. why all of a sudden is it it's going it be a gay man that brings the league to its knees? that's the straw that breaks the camel's back. >> what do you think his chances will be at the draft. a lot of people are points to go jason collins who came out towards the end o of his career and nobody signed him last year. >> i think it probably will affect his draft status a little bit. because that is the unfortunate reality of the nfl is that there will be teams that will pass on him simply because he's gay and they don't want to have to deal with it. at the end of the day i think a team will pick him up in the fourth or fifth round to not do so, would be to really just play to wantly reveal the fact that the nfl is being run by homo phones. and i don't think the league wants that perfectio perception and i

would be surprised if roger godell isn't on the phone talking to owners and telling tell, hey, look, this is a real image problem for us if that's that's what happens, talk to your g.m.s and make them aware that we do not tolerate discrimination in the league. most professionals have done it at the end of their year, or retired. assuming sam is you can is h successful could this mean that this is the jackie robinson moment for gay men in sports? >> mark twain once said history doesn't repeat itself. but it sure does rhyme. and in other words, there is only one jackie robinson. every situation is different. the 21st censure notice 1947. but the similarities to the jackie robinson situation cannot be ignored, not the least of which if you go back to the 1940s and look what owners and baseball executives were saying, they sound one awful hell of a lot like the blind quotes in sports illustrated. speaking about distractions, speaking about the locker room.

putting it all on the players. basically, off shoring their own big tree on to the players themselves . in that respect it's very five. we are looking to see what manager is going to be a branch ricky. saying i care about whether or not this young can play and everything else is not even a consideration to me. >> chris kluwe, dave, we have a couple of months before the beginning of may to see what happens in that draft. good to have you both on the show, thank you. >> thank you. >> yep, thank you. now to new details about a controversial nsa program that uses electronic surveillance to gio target overseas mobile phones to determine who america's drones should couple of a new report says the method is inherently unreliable and led to the death of civilians. this as the obama administration decides whether to use a drone to target a u.s. citizen reportedly living in pakistan

who has allegedly planned new attacks against the united states. joining us now to discuss this is christopher swift, professor of national security studies at george town university school of for earn service joining us from our washington, d.c. studio. good to have you back on the show. the author of the piece said this is death by metta data. this is all inherently unrelook iable and that the nsa doesn't confirm the people they are targeting with any information on the ground and that that leads to bad strikes and civilian deaths, your reaction? >> there are a certain amount of truth to his that. there is an over relines on signal intelligence on the war on terrorism generally. there is an over reliance on intelligence we get from our local allies. the governments of yemen, pakistan and other governments where these operations take place .

there is a lack of insight with relationships with people that live those place. you put that together and you have a legitimate critique. it's not by metta data it's death by gio targeting based on specific phones. who is holding the phones when the drone strike happens is of course an issue to be addressed. generally speaking it goes to the broader problem of trying to fight a war by remote control and not always knowing who our adversary is. >> again, how do we put people on the ground in remote places of yemen and pakistan and afghanistan? how do we confirm, is using the signals intelligence really the only way we can do it? >> no, it's certainly not. and we don't use signals intelligence exclusively in other battle spaces, iraq, afghanistan, some of the other location sayses where we have operated. we don't rely exclusively on signals intelligence. the difficulty

sheer this is very little stomach for invests in troops. so we are trying to degrade our ahead very tear saraahead very m on the run. the pa problem is when you rely on third party sources and exclusively local governments and on signals intelligence rather than doing our own diligence, you sometimes get in trouble and that's part of the issue that's being raised with this report . >> we are now joined by brandon bryant a former censor operator after he left the active duty air force in 2011 he was presented with a certificate that credited his squad remember with 1600 kills and his predator fired a missile at a target good to have you with us. this new article the journal inter september outlines this nsa unit called gio cell. and it tracks these terrorists through their phones and their

sim cards and the washington post last year said that your units' motto was we track 'em, you whack 'em. you had no idea what that strike was based on from an intelligence standpoint . >> for the most part. i wasn't part of the squad remember that was part of the you track 'em, we track 'em. mine was pro pa tree us, pro los angeles bare us, we worked with these people all the time for the most part we didn't understand the depth of their job or what they were doing. we were just told to point and click, basically. >> and you said the terrorists are on the program and change sim cards in order to confuse nsa analysts because they figured out how this all works? >> well, what i picked up was the

fact that they figured out that we were tracking their cell phones, then we figures out that, well, if they changed sim cards it's harder for us to track them. we developed technologies to, you know, keep tracking them and they developed tactic to his counter it. it's typical warfare. it's -- and. >> constant adjustments on both sides. >> -- for us to track them. they are coming back with better tactics to avoid being tracked. >> now, chris, the president has said that the drone strikes save lives, that, of course, the first choice is to capture the terrorists and prosecute them. about but -- and that before any strike is taken, there must being near certainty that no civilians are to be killed or injured. this report argues that's not happening. we are not really hitting all of those points

. >> i think president is looking at it from like this is how it should be and i believe this is how it is standpoint. and the reality of the situation is that it's not. >> chris, your reaction to that? >> a big issue is -- >> i just say that in war, confusion reigns on the battlefield and part of the broader problem here is not just the risks that they are coming from hitting zazavill civilians or alienating people. it's who our alis are, we see that issue raised at the strategic level where we have large discussion about his al qaeda affiliates and pro ba lidge reps and al qaeda linked organizes and but we don't have definitions for what those terms mean and who the groups would be be. until we sort out the broader issues and how they interact in communities where we are

operating the. it's going to be difficult for us to deal with either the strategic as tactic the aspects of this conflict. >> brandon you have gone further you don't sport the strikes even against the head of al qaeda in yemen. >> correct. you know, our constitutional fourth amendment says that even traders deserve a fair and speedy trial. we swore an oath to defend our constitution and we violated it. we blatantly violated something that we were supposed to defend and that makes us not even worthy to defend it. >> but, chris, only have about 20 seconds, the president has said that he does think it's constitutional if we go after someone who is a broad and waging war against america. what do you think? >> sure. well, fourth amendment deals with privacy, fifth due process, sixth amendment a fair and speedy trial.

the key issue here is the fifth amendment and other under circumstances can you kill someone, take layer life, lick at this or process without due process of law. i would rob. i argue when you are dealing with an individual who has taken up arms against the united states and air ali on his a foreign battlefield that you have a circumstances where the fifth amendment may not apply quite the same way it does here on the streets of new york or on the streets of washington. pretty important legal issue and one that will develop a great deal in the coming years. >> especially immediately because apparently they are looking at this american sid senscitizenwho may pakistan rig. thanks for joining us. coming up, is is there a quiet war on social security? we'll explain that next. and jack hannah joins us on a into's controversial killing of a giraffe in public. and janet is tracking the top stories on the web. what's trending. >> we have a disturbing story coming up. some new yorkers have been making 10s of thousands of

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a into in copenhagen is facing outrage from around the world for its decision to euthanize a healthy giraffe because he was, as they said, surplus, marius, the two-year-old giraffe was then dissected in front of a crowd that included children. the giraffe's remains were fed to other animals, again in public view. despite adoption offers from other zoos and private individuals. leading people all over the world to wonder how could this happen? and i must warn you, some of the images and video you are about to see are extremely graphic. joining us now from jupiter, florida is jack happen at director emeritus of the columbus into also the host of the syndicated tv program jack hannah's in to the wild as well as the weekend show jack hannah's wild countdown. jackets really good to see you. let's start with what the into's

sign terrific director had to say. he argued that 20 to 30 animals are culled every year at that into. is that normal? you have spent all those years at the columbus into, do they cullan malls there? >> no, we have never culled an animal at the columbus into and we have been founded since 1926. we both heard about this in the last 24 hours, i have heard from grotesque to incentive to unbelievable and the words come out of people's mouths. not one person and i have had, you don't know the tons of stuff, not one person has said they understand what is going on here. >> it's impossible to understand for most of us. we don't understand how a beautiful animal like that could be killed. let me bedevil advocate is he said the animal was killed to protect the diversity of the captive population of giraffe is his that any argument worth making?

>> he's correct. we have to protect the genetic diversity. why did they keep breeding them number one? number two, is why didn't he find a home for the animal? somebody told me one man offered a half a million dollars, i don't know if that's true or not. i can tell through. myself the columbus into in the killeds i would have personally raised money, me myself my own money even. i had people already call me. i have come up with $700,000 brought the animal on the boat and taken him to wilds, we have 10,000 acres by the way. i would did given that animal a home. the thing is yes diversity is important. but here -- you just said it, genetic demographic management. are you kidding me? how many visitors to a into logical park understand that? >> unof them . we are here to teach people . how to love it and save it.

several species of giraffes are en dangers. they announced it. they shot the giraffe. i guess they cut it up in front of the people and then fed it the lion, director also said that's natural in the wild. i am saying -- not many people get to see what i have seen around the world in africa. asia , have a seen predators on hunted? of course i have, have a seen how it goes down, hunting and results and consumption, of course i have. i have filmed it and done everything. when you come to a park with a family. i don't think that's called education when you take an animal they announced they shot it and take one with nothing wrong with it cut it up in a family and feed it to a carnivore, maybe something is wrong with me here, someone said it's our different culture, that's their culture over there. that's not a culture for any three to six-year-old. >> jack, trust me there is nothing wrong with you. i think everybody agrees with you on this one. just doesn't understand how they could have done

this. it's still a nearly threatened animal. so, again, you the you would take it on your property. there are reports that somebody offered more than a half a million dollars to have the animal. again, i am sure that a lot of other people would have been willing to come up with money to put this giraffe somewhere else and it wouldn't have been an issue of genetic diversity or any issue like that. why in the world would they do this? >> see, all of us are trying to figure that out. i have never been stumped over a question unless i don't know about a lot of animal questions, why they are doing it it's educating the people, it's natural the kids should learn about that. no. no. as i told you, when you come to the zoological park in our country which are all nag enough tents. 98% of our animals in intos today come from other intos, if i need a giraffe and they are being culled. but if i need one i can take a veveterinarian and take the spem and eggs i can do with that cats, all kind of creatures to say that is educational they

want kids to learn, no, we want kids to come to the parks to sit in our a area yum s you can't say it unless you love it . one kid said mr. hannah i saw this, are they going to take that to our giraffe our our zoo. that's the buzz word in our country now. we do not do that in america. >> talking about accredited zoos, lets me bedevil's advocate. zoo is part of the european association of zoos and aquariums and they have rules to protection the species that include forbidding of the transfer of animals outside the association's membership. my simple question, and i seem to be asking the same thing over and over, how do you protect an animal by killing him? >> yes, he had a gene pool that had too many of them, okay, fine.

take it, -- that's fine they can only go to credited institutions, something like that was going in our country as well. there are still private breeders in this country who have great gene pools, they spends a lot of money, even more money that zoos do, on keeping this gene pool clean and there are some people that don't do that. they are not good breeders, they are people that don't take care of the animals, i realize that. but there are people that might not be accredited that are great people in the animal world and we know who they are in this country and i am sure there are people like that in europe don't set some standard like this, only we can save the animal world it won't work that i what. the good lord didn't put us here to say only the credited zoos can save the animals, we don't hand somebody a giraffe that doesn't know anything about it. we make sure that it goes to someone who knows how to care for it, has the money and is a reputable person that's how we do it at our zoo. >> such a terrible shame, jack,

such a spectacular animal it's horrible to hear. >> exactly. >> and see this happen. >> one man said, you know, jack, my children color the giraffe in a coloring book, a beautiful animal. here we are building a platform so people can hand feed him. to see that beautiful face to know the in or has the sim number of vet bra in their neck just like i do, just like you and me and kids learn that. are you going to learn it by cutting him up and saying this giraffe had seven vertebraes we had to cut his neck off to feed lion. this is beyond -- little kids don't understand they table it and it's an icon animal would you do that to a giant panda, to a -- i mean, i am being radical would you do it to a giant panda or gorilla i don't think so. why would you do it to a giraffe. >> again, such a shame, jack, it is good to see you, thank you for your time. and to address this important very sad issue. changing topics now, we turn to i a growing problem that both

sides of the political aisle agree our nation is facing. a retirement crisis. why are both conservatives and liberals questioning the new initiative announced by president obama tpresident obamd middle income miles a americans. >> today most worker don't have a pension, a social security often isn't enough on its own. and while the stock market has doubled over the last five years, that doesn't help folks who don't have 401ks. i will direct th treasury to create taye new way for working americans to start their own retirement savings, my i r.a. it's a new savings beyond pwo*pd that encourages folks to build a nest egg. >> joining us now from los angeles california, is david, he is a contributing write fore salon who wrote a peace called the quiet war on social security. meet the dark side of my r.a. good to have you with us, you

arc that president obama's my r.a. is a deliberate attempt to distract people from ray growing push to expand social security. why would the president do that? >> i can't get in to his head but i can tell you the con tech. there has been a growing number of activists and politicians who have seen that in the wake of this retirement crisis that you just described, the best and most efficient way to solve the problem would be to expand social security. and then on the other side, you have the president who in his budget last year . sought a small cut to social security and while describing the problem well in his state of the union speech brings up my r.a. which is basically just a small savings bond rather than endorsing what a lot of democrats have come on board with over the last year or so. so there really is this intra

party battle and in my view, it is a distraction when you are not looking at the best way to solve the problem. >> but how popular is the idea of expanding social security outside the progressive wing of the democratic party? >> it's quite popular, actually. polls have shown, including one poll from the national association of the social insurance showed large majorities in favor of protecting social security and expanding it. you have people all over the country from liberals like tom harkin and elizabeth warren to moderate in the democratic party like mark in alaska a red state and is up for reelection this year, also endorsing an expansion of social security. so there is a broad support, i think, for this measure and it's really just trying to get off the ground right now as a serious idea. and so bringing these other things to the print, i think distracts from that.

>> by, again, this is always called the third rail of american politics. and if you are going to expand social security, which is already financially strapped. how do you do it? if we didn't even agree on post pointing retirement age or any small -- even small pressures people can't agree on. >> president obama in his speech talked about the fact that $140 billion a year in this country goes out for tax preferences for retirement accounts. those are things like 401ks and i r.a.s and it's $140 billion a year that goes mostly to the top 5% or one%, if you cap it or limit it and use some savings . again $140 billion a year, you could plow that in to an expended benefits. we have a cap on payroll tax

that pays for social security. if you expand it the money there. it's just political will. >> then you would talk about a huge tax increase on people that make less than for hundred $50,000 if you started at that that point and that would there are 10s of millions of people that have 401ks to takeaway from this to expends socia socil security, do you think it will work? >> the 401k has not been a good deal for most americans, it goes in to the hands of fund managers who are allowed to work in their own interests and not in the interests of the actual individuals that they are representing. they are high in ex-o exorbitans that take as much as two-thirds of the profits out of 401k s. as far as the situation you said about a tax increase for people making under 250,000. before he became president, president obama endorsed something called the donut hole

which would leave harmless the payroll tax between 100 say 250,000 then increase or lift the cap above that. so there are solutions here, innovative solutions that are far better than just leaving individuals to the have sit tuesdays of the market and that's sway we're in this situation we need bet he go think on the ground? >> thought provokin provoking a, thanks for your time. >> new york law enforcement and the aspca executed the biggest cock fighting bust in the state's history, detaining 70 people, arresting nine on felony charges and rescuing 3,000 birds but it wasn't just birds they found. new york state attorney general eric snyder man ex-explains. >> it was gambling, it was illegal liquor, drug, the whole package of things

. folks that go to these this kind of he wants prize commit other act as well. >> according to the president, prostitution, guns and gangs were also involved and on facebook connor try be commented i get smuggling pills, powder, et cetera, but how on earth do you smuggle 3,000 chickens? there must be some serious money in that stuff. bizarre. and it turns out there is, some spectators were placing individual bets as high as $10,000. you can read more at the website america .aljazerra.com. cock fighting has been illegal nationwide. the farm bill signed in to effect last week makes it a fed ran offense to get caught. my high school dean said don't get caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. >> that's a brutal activity and let's hope they stop it. thanks, jana. coming up the oscar nominated look at forcing genocidal killers to face their

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history is rip by the victors, but what if those victors are deranged genocidal killers? our series of oscar-nominated documents continue with the act of killing. following the main perpetrators

of a crack down on communist in indonesia that may have killed a million people. a filmmaker asked some of those killers to recreate their crimes for the film and incredibly, they said yes. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> joshua openheimer joins us from los angeles. he directed the oscar-nominated documentary the act of killing there is a special edition dvd out now and the film is also

available on itunes, amazon and net flicks, good to have you with us, i got a so a human level this may be the most bizarre film i have ever seen. how the man we just saw there, and other subjects of your film are among 10,000 kill who's just openly boast about their crimes, it's absolutely mind boggling and of course it raids says the obvious question is hour they are able to walk around free after confessing to murder on film? >> fundamentally because they've never been removed from power. because these are men who in 1965 helped the military take your skpo*ur hav power and haven power ever since, while to some he can tend the military dictatorship formally ended in 1998, these men still remain in control. sow unlike perpetrators aging nazis who either deny what they have done or act ashamed for it, these men have never been removed from power. and so they have been able to boast and in fact, they have

needed to post so that they wouldn't have to admit what they all know to be true, namely that what they did was wrong. >> in one of the strangest moments in the film is that you have the indonesian vice president actually talking to one of these groups of so-called gangsters who were very involved in all of this, many years ago and this guy sought there basically telling them that we need people like you and that sometimes it's necessary to beat people up. >> exactly. the film is not so much a film about what happens in 1965. it's a film about an expo say of a regime of fear, thuggery and corruption that has been in place ever since 1965. a regime built by the killers and presided over by the killers. it's a film about what happens to our common humanity to each other when we build our political and economic system on the basis of terror and lies. >> and that was 1965, of course the year of living dangerously

that was made famous by that movie. but, again, how did you manage to get these people to come in front of your cameras and to talk to you in such detail about how they massacred people? >> see, i began making this film in clan raise with a community of survivors of 1965, 196 sick killings, when the army found out we are talking about the killings the army which is stationed in every village in indonesia would no longer let the survivors participate in the film. they said you must not talk to this filmmaker anymore. the survive, said to me, before you give up, before you go home, before you try and film the aging killers and they may boast and tell you how they killed our family members. to my horror and astonishment. every single one of them would

boast openly did the grizzlies details of the killings often with smiles on their faces often in front of their wives, children, even their small grandchildren. and i had this awful feeling that i had wandered in to germany 40 years after the holocaust. only to find the nazis still in power. when i showed this footage back to those survivors who wanted to see it, and then to the broader interred near an human rights community everybody said, keep filming the perpetrators you are onto something so important. because any indonesian or anyone around the world for that matter who sees this will finally be forced to acknowledge the moral catastrophe of what happened but also the moral catastrophe of the present day regime that the killers have built and still presides over. i spent two years before i met the main character in the film, in dialogue with the survivors in dialogue with the human rights community filming every perpetrator i could find across northern sue mott rah and every single one of them was boastful. almost all of them would invite me to places where they killed

and launch in to simple demonstrations of how they killed and the method of the film allowing them it to demonstrate whatever they had done however they winder. it was not a lurer to get them to open up it was a way to try to analyze their openness, to a action, they appeared to be proud of what they have done, enter boastful. why are though boasting, how do they want to be seen? how do they see themselves in and how does that boasting you were pin a whole regime of fear. that was how the film came about. >> but it goes, again, beyond the boasting, as you just said, and to not just to tell the stories and mildly reenact them they really go heavy duty and reenact a lot of what happened back then. it's just almost impossible to understand as you are watching it that people would do that. >> that process also evolved organically, i started this process of working with the survivors and then filming the perpetrate nurse the countryside, i film every death

squad leader that i could find across north sumatra work paying way up the chain of command to the city. when i reached the city, i discovered that the army recruited their paramilitary killers from the ranks of movie theater gangsters as they called themselves. criminal that his hung out in movie theaters involved in all sorts of serious organized crime but also selling movie theater tickets on the black market, scalping tickets. and they had this love of american movies. and when i met the main character, the 41st perpetrator whom i filmed, i had this feeling that his pain was close to the surface and that somehow i start today realize that the boasting, which seems at first seemed to be a sign that these men think feel no remorse, they may lack any conscience that they are proud may in fact be something else, may in fact be defensive. a sign they know what they have done is wrong, but because they have been forced to admit tar trying to convince themselves otherwise and impose the victory

tour's hick that was i dickvictor's history that it was society. i showed him the fill. through that process, very organically starting with the very simple reenactments he would look disturbed watching the previous scene that he filmed and start to make suggestions, so saying, what's wrong is my hair, my acting. the style of the scene. >> i hate to interrupt you because i only have 30 seconds left. has there been any change since this movie came out and can you go back? >> i can't safely go back to indonesian, a i probably could get in, but i don't think i would get out again. that is said the film has radically transformed the way indonesia is talking about its past. it's led ordinary indonesian ans to talk about openly the general eyed is a genocide to make links to the present day fear and led the media to investment the sen

side as a genocide and the government to finally admit that what happens was wrong. >> it's a very powerful film and we wish you the best of luck at the oscars again the oscar-nominated film is called the actua act of killing. available on itunes, amazon and net flicks, straight ahead a big billionaire hobby giving your wife way. and the truly shocking price

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among various causes and john arnold and his wife laura gave $300 million to round out the top five. still, it seems people who can least afford to give do. as of 2011, the atlantic reports the richest americans, meaning the top 20% of america's earners only give way 1.3% of their income while the bottom 20% give away 3.2%. utah is america's most giving state, mainly because of mormon tithing. southern states, mississippi, alabama, tennessee and south carolina filled out the top five for most giving and red states in general gave more than blue states. coming up, far from a model industry. growing concerns about the treatment of the america's most beautiful women. >> fault lines, hard hitting... >> they're blocking the door... >> ground breaking... >> we have to get out of here. >> truth seeking...

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if any industry's femaleeera employees suffered a sexual harassment rate the 30%, it would probably be shutdown. but according to a recent survey, that's what it's like for models in the fashion industry. and while the industry is enjoying its latest moment in the spot light with new york's fashion week, questions continue to be raised about the mental and physical health of the models who walk the runways and pose in magazines for the world apt top designers. for more i am joined in the studio by sarah a working model and founder and executive director of model alliance. which aims to bring ethical standard and lasting change to the fraction industry i am also joined by meredith former model who is currently a graphic did

he sign and also diddidhe desigf model alliance. it's shocking when you look at the numbers, i survey that you did you said 30% of all models get section reu hu sexually harassed three quarter exposed to drugs half cocaine, in my experience, that almost seem low. >> yes. >> how does that happen? >> well, you know, i started modeling when i was 14 years old, so a lot of the work that i am doing today with meredith is really it's grown out of my personal experiences in the industry. and for the most part, i think it's a fantastic business and i think that modeling can be a great career. but until now, it's sensually been unregulated. >> it's the wild west. >> right. and so you see often young girls, you know, 14, 15, 16 years old who are working in a very adult environment. >> and you just wrote an article, a very powerful article about your experiences and one of the things you bring up is

that over the last decade, some 20 models have committed suicide. given the fact the model industry is not a huge industry, that's a very, very high rate. >> it is. a lot of -- there were a few that were very established models some were every day working models and a lot of people don't understand that when you become a model it's not like you are becoming some supermodel where you are suddenly making millions of dollars a day and doing glamorous jobs, a lot of day-to-day work is showrooms, catalogs unpaid test shoots, unpaid runway shows, it's an unregulated environment that coupled with those things can end up being very psychologically detrimental. >> the average salary for a mod is not very high? it's not last time i checked it was around 30,000 all year, that's taking in somebody versus gizelle versus 10 or $20,000 in debt. >> it's skewed by the big earner. the average model is probably making less than that. >> right.

>> no protection whatsoever. the numbers of models who have health insurance barely a quarter of them do. what can you do to change that? >> so we formed the model alliance in 2012. and we had the support of prominent models like cocoa roach a mila jojo viv and we have gotten a lot of wonderful sport from the industry. the thing nearest and dearest to my heart is that children in our industry were not covered by labor law . we introduce addressee law last year that included child models under 18 in the same protection that his cover all other child performers, actors, singers, dances and i am very proud to say that we -- that governor quo know signed our bill in to law in november. >> it's not

in new york that protects younger models in new york. but you have issues in other players places around the world. what worries me when you look at what's out there . you are other accomplish: >> often people looking at the industry and these images of models will say, oh, they are all anorexic, they are not eat, they need to eat a hamburger. and the reality, is yes, eating disorders are a real problem in our business. but what most people don't realize is that when you have a 15-year-old girl who is representing the ideal for female butte foy beauty for adult women that's inherently problematic. because you have a very different body type at 15 to 25. >> sure.

even go to the past, twiggy who is considered by nickname a very thin model in the old days would not be a very thin model today. you also write about that. that the pressure on all of you to be thin and how thin you had to get. in order to be able to work. it's just scary. >> it is. absolutely. and you know, i have a lot of friends that are models now through mod al lines and time working as a model and a lot of them are naturally thin. not every mod is going to have an eating disorder, not every model has bad body image issue but it's perpetuated this idea of never being thin enough when i was 19 i was tall and stun i and didn't know what being a model was i thought i was fine, i was like a sides four or size six, i am 5'9" to me that is thin and young, modeling industry measures in inches not pounds so i had to lose 15 to 20 pounds to be the correct size, my body is not able to naturally get down to that

weight if puffs just healthy diet and exercising. i got on a diet from my modeling agency and i got really skin i really fast and came to new york and i had a fun time but it was a really strange environment to be suddenly be in. i think agency per we have per pitch wait that. i have friends that are young and happy and year a two down the line realize how unhappy they are peas because of what's going on. >> that's what you write about, is the prevalence of depression and anxiety disorders in models. >> right. >> 68% is one of the numbers that i read somewhere. and you were at the agencies, meredith what can you do with them? what i read 20% commission, plus 20%, they also take out for service and fees. these modeling agencies making a ton of money publicizing all your face their websites and everyone where else why can't they give i health insurance and some protections?

>> the agencies would say that they are management companies not talent agencies. >> which is nice fun legalities that they can get way with. >> right. >> but at some point what's the moral thing to do especially if you are make ago lost money? >> sure. i think there needs to be moreover site of agencies because right now anyone can open a modalling agency and -- modeling agency when you consider how young mean of these girls who are who are just starting out often english is not their first language they are far fa far away from familis a recipe for problems. >> we are talking about middle schoolers, in many cases who are starting at models at that point. >> sure. >> these girls need to be protected? >> but you mentioned health insurance and that's actually one of our recent initiatives. so national youth enrollment day is february 15th. coming up, and we have a partnership where we are offering access to good, affordable health care so we are registering our members and

making sure that they are covered. >> how optimistic are you that things will change. >> slowly but surely but we are seeing the effects of that especially with the child labor law. the article not new york times mentioned that a lot of models are not under 18 this time around during fashion week and were only about four or five days in. and it's really interesting to see that. so for me, from my standpoint i feel like slowly but surely people are paying attention and hopefully get models on board to get health care. >> it's an important time to raise they questions, a lot of young girls depends on it. >> thank you. >> good to see you. for more from new york fashion week he can check out our photo he is say at aljazerra.com/considerthis where we asks people what their eye goal of beauty is. the show may be over but the conversation continues on our website or facebook or google plus pages, you can also find us on twitter at a

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