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president has met with the spiritual leader during his presidency. detroit has produced a plan for moving out of bankruptcy. i'm morgan radford. those are your headlines. consider this is next. >> the deadly violence in ukraine leads to a major agreement. venezuela's violent repress takes a turn for the worst. >> what drives people to wall street. how do they change when they get there? smear campaign strong enough for congress, made for the oscars. >> i'm antonio mora, welcome to "consider this". here is more on what is ahead. . >> a new deal that may end three mondays of protests in ukraine.
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all of it coming in the wake of bloody battles in the streets. everyone is waiting to see what happens next. >> anti-government protesters gathering in caracas. >> the pots and pans banking is the hallmark of protests. >> in what they thought was a safe environment unleashed what they thought about the bailout, the occupy movement, hillary clinton. sh sh spoke up about the exchange. security forces on thursday. the protesters in the square want president viktor yanukovych out of office now and applauded when one faction leader threatened an armed attack if he hasn't resigned by 10:00 saturday morning. but the deal leaves yanukovych
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in place though it limits his powers by limiting the 2004 state constitution, mandate being presidential elections by december. for more let's go to kiev and al jazeera correspondent nick shifrin. what's the atmosphere like in independence square tonight? >> well, antonio, you just laid it out. they're still here. they're not going anywhere. about 50,000 people, a few hours ago, listening to the opposition leaders, and they did boo. they actually tried to kind of overwhelm the sound of one of the more popular opposition leaders. and when that right wing leader that you just mentioned got on stage there was huge applause for not only the line about an armed insurrection against the presidential palace but when he said quite more insightful things than that, quite more personal things about the president.
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so there's a real taste for blood right now. and that is because not only of these funerals that were held during this evening, almost a candlelight vigil during that talk, but also a real sense of just yesterday morning was the most deadly moment for the protesters, if you take the protesters number, that was the most deadly day in ukrainian history since the end of the soviet union. so their memory is very, very short. and they want to feel that the sacrifices they have made, that rch everything they've done the blood they've spilled will actually be repaid. and it is not repaid in a kind of long bullet point list of an agreement. it is repaid when yanukovych walks out of the palace, not any of this will get them out of their trenches and agree to the deal which requires them to leave independence square. >> and that's a worrisome development because as you said
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there's a long list of things ukraine's parliament agreed to. blanket amnesty to protestors, and a measure that should free former yul temeshenko and make it work but again it doesn't seem to satisfy the protesters. >> well on paper i think it does satisfy people. but in a day or a week perhaps we will begin to talk about the sobering up of the young youthful enthusiasm and the passion and the anger that is still fueling the people to stay in independence square and in these trenches just a few feet below me here. but right now, i think that anger is still very hot, and i
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think the memory of yesterday morning is still seared in their mind. you know you talk to a lot of these kids, some of them are in their young 20s or teens, some of them are older but they talk about yesterday as that is their war. they went through their iwo jima, through their absolutely horrific moments yesterday charging up a hill using plastic shields against automatic weapons. that's what they want all of us, they want the people on the stage a few hours to remember. antonio you're right on paper, this is a deal that gives a lot to the opposition, a lot to the people who have been filling square for the last few months and perhaps over a little more time that anger will moderate and the notion of what they accomplished here will actually set in and the people will begin to feel proud or at least satisfied with some of the things they get and at least
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yanukovych is in power. >> it was an awfully deadly day. al jazeera's nick shifrin many thanks. and russia also refused to sign it which has many wondering if moscow might try to are work against it. >> i'm joined by andre kosorov, very good to have you on the show. ukraine opposition leader arsenyi yatsenyuk said, i'm concerned that the rurgse russians were not part of the agreement. >> i understand his feeling because russia should be a helping hand to ukraine, and we tried in my time, we
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thought that movement of ukraine to democracy would enhance our movement to the same direction. but somehow crème marin chose to step on different path . and that is very awkward and upsetting for me and many people. as for agreement itself it looks like a good agreement but of course everything will depend on the ability and resolve of ukrainian people to see that this agreement is fully implemented and lived up to by president yanukovych. and there is little trust so ifully
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understanifully understand the f the square so to say. signature it's a little bit unclear to me personally why he did not it is not there. it is probably also a personal problem a guy who was sent there by president putin. he is kind of a fern, quite a character, i know him for many years . so it could be as well is personal, you know, political stance. but of course, i wouldn't expect unfortunately today's russia to be very supportive of real democratic change in unfortunately. >> on the other hand, president putin spent apparently an hour on the phone with president obama. they agreed on the need to implement the agreement quickly, to stabilize ukraine's economic
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situation and they urged both sides to restrain from violence. then a former kremlin advisor is reporting that probably putin is furious about this agreement, do you think he will cooperate? >> i hope so, they will put as good faith as possible. but let's face it: the maidan as they call this independence square , that's surprising in ukraine, it kind of shows russia's today's russia's kremlin's actually a heal, that people could insist on change and that change is possible and that people in the very, very neighbor and sister actually
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country might not agree to box themselves into a cornler that's against the west and against the change and everything. so i hope that they will learn the lesson too. but of course it is a painful lrch for them. >> it does seem with these developments it's less likely that the worst case scenario that russia will possibly send troops into ukraine, that might not happen now. but a splitting of the ukraine's, ukraine's eastern provinces are closer culturally and politically to russia. if ukraine moves towards an agreement with the european union and more a pro-western way do you think that would happen? >> well of course you wouldn't
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expect unfortunately russia to be helpful to the real change if real change would develop in ukraine. and there are more than one ways for russia to exercise its influence. it's power. and you know, the best way which the west can do and i welcome of course the conversation between two presidents, and i think that obama administration actually does goes through the optimum more or less in this case because they have to be supportive on one way but very cautious on the other. but the best way , what actually america and the west could do for ukraine and for the change as a matter of fact for russia proper is to encourage investment of western intellectual capital
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and capital itself into shale gas exploration in the ukraine. if ukraine becomes one day independent producer of gas and probably oil, that would be real game changer also for russia because today russia could avoid reforms, sitting on the oil kind of windfall. but if ukraine starts to produce shale gas, then i would make that into that field. >> former russia minister, andre kosarev, it's nice ohave you on the show, thanks. >> thank you. >> switching gears to venezuela, blocked access to zello a push
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to talk walkie talkie app, as they communicate in venezuela and ukraine. internet access was also pulled down for 30 hours in the city of san crastol. meantime, friday saw the death of hennessey kcarmona, fired on by government officials called collectivos, large cities, rallies have been scheduled for saturday. i'm joined in washington, d.c, by christopher sabatini. christopher, glad to have you with us. has the mad
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ma maduro giambi -- >> had kicked out cnn andest pan and espaniole. no tolerance fo dissent. now it's clearly moving against the only remaining independent channels within the country. the first being cnn in espaniole. he has also stride to move to interfere in, have really become the sole means. >> and try to control every aspect of venezuelan society now. it's very troubling. >> it's not just information, there are reports that the government is dispatching 3,000
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troopers to san carlos carlo christol, what does the government want a civil war? is there any chance that venezuela could be heading towards that? >> well, you know the problem with venezuela for a while now is chavez now maduro means of resolving conflict and taken over sort of the channels of communication and independent expression. i think there is a very real concern here that as they've done this, the country's become more polarized. at the same time it has lost the ability to resolve these conflicts peacefully. first of all, maduro has raised the rhetoric and discourse, causing
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the regime fascist. and armed thugs to control these crowds. i think the possibility of real violence is very imminent. >> the maduro government has been piling on against the protesters, he has accused them of using sharp shooters, he accused of shooting the beauty queen herself. these are not students, these are fascist vandals. but there was a mother there who spoke very passionately about these vandals she said enough of the fascist talk. we are not fascists, we are venezuelans. u.s. interests that want to grab venezuela's oil? >> well, first of all i don't
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know if it takes a fascist to protest the venezuela violence. 56%, highest inflation rate in the world. scarcity rates, according to their own central bank 20% of the goods are not available. basic goods like toilet paper, milk, beans, it doesn't take a fascist to support this. these are common complaints about a completely failed economic situation in venezuela now. and clearly what this country has failed to do is blaming others. they blame the opposition and accuse them of plotting a coup, but the united states, classic tactic to try to divert the blame. they kicked out protesters,
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claiming they were behind the movement. >> in the lateliest he addresses maduro's big support, the military. he says do not obey unjust orders, do not become the face of oppression, do you think that will resonate? >> the problem is that again, for the last 14, 15 years, of chavez mo and maduro mo. , the four different armed forces, the national police, at the command of the government, and it's been very cruptded also by narcotics trade and contraband trade as well as these
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collectivos, there may come a point where they refuse the orders of this government. you have to understand they have been very infiltrated and politicized by this government for 14 years . >> let's listen to the mother of the wounded protest again . >> she says she's no oligarch, you can look at her manned, she has no jewels. she says mad row is going to fight bullets with protests, will this escalate? >> two things antonio. the opposition has double ed down on the electoral strategy. it has surveilled to allow them to capture very legitimate
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popular frustrations over the economic conditions. now they're taking to the streets and to the large part this is because the other avenues of protest and independent voices have been completely closed down. the risk is, you are going to save many, using the military to contain and control those dimension dx and opposition complies, these are citizens they are complaining about their economic situation their political situation the security situation. the risk is that this has become very much very heated and increasingly maduro was asking his thugs and the armed forces to control them and this could situation. it is led to a situation where anything can happen across all of these situations that are not northwesterly dependent on one request control
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joining us from harris berg is john deny, a research professor of joint interagency, intergovernmental and multistudies at the strategic army war college - it's longest title i had to read, great to have you on the show. i want to start with n.a.t.o. providing patrols for the west bank and gaza. what happened then that kept this from not going forward and why is it brought forward again? >> it's a longstanding proposal, going back to the late years of the clinton administration. for a variety of reasons, the stars have not been aligned many to do with politics in israel, it's been brought up again now,
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embraced by the palestine authority president mahmoud abbas, and i think the timing may be better now. it seems in terms of the emphasis that the u.s. administration is putting on peace negotiations that the time may be right to talk about these details. >> i want to get to israeli politics, but let's talk about n.a.t.o. peacekeeping forces and their success. they had some. do you think they'd be successful in a situation such as this, where there's so much bad feeling on so many issues? >> n.a.t.o. is interested in helping in this way if three key conditions are met. there has to be a comprehensive peace agreement. they have to invite n.a.t.o. in to implement the agreement, and thirdly a u.n. mandate for the peace-keeping operation. if that is met, n.a.t.o. would be willing to play a role, and they'd be able to as well. >> they would be big ifs.
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binyamin netanyahu said that he only trusts the israeli army to provide security and would not support a third party. again, the u.s., israel's most important ally - why wouldn't he trust an n.a.t.o. force led by the united states? >> this is a good question. we have to bear in mind that this is a starting point for negotiation. we know nothing is easy, simply in israeli, palestine negotiation, and we shouldn't expect this to be either. we can remember that the u.s. and u.s. rail have a long history of working together in peacekeeping operations in this part of the world. for example, in the sign jai pence. there has been hun -- sinai peninsula. there's reason to believe they could work in this context. >> why do you think mahmoud abbas made the suggestion in the first place. he's gone as far as saying gaza
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and the west bank can be mitt tarized and he'd be willing to rely on n.a.t.o. providing security indefinitely? >> i think you are seeing postering on both sides. i don't think the west will sign up to indefinite peacekeeping. there's room for negotiation, if you look for the example of bosnia, where an implementation force was provided, and a stabilization lasting 8-20 years. that's the commitment the west will make. if it's an 8-10 year commitment, the u.s. military pulled out of raik, pulling out of afghanistan. people in the united states - we are war-weary, do you thige the american people could get behind on action.
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>> i think so. i think the u.s. and western allies have a strategic interest in making sure there's a stable peace in that part of the world. we have a moral interest to promote the peace agreement. you are right to say there's downsizing going on in terms of budgets and military structures on both sides of the atlantic. if the agreement were in place, if there was a u.n. mandate, i think there would be a willingness on both sides of the atlantic and here in the u.s. to implement an agreement. >> how about financially, most government are in austerity mode after the recession? >> that's true, as a result of the sovereign crisis and our own debt cuts, but there are counterveiling trends. in the u.s. congress provided relief from sequestration affecting the department of
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defense. poland is increasing, germany they are looking to grow overseas commitments when it comes to peacekeeping. there's counterveiling trends, and the allies would be willing and able to make that commitment. >> it's an important suggestion to be discussed in the middle of a never ending middle east process. turning to wall street, young bankers can reality to "the wolf of wall street", can reality to long hours, drugs and work loads. according to reality, it's anything but sexy, a writer for new york magazine zones us, he tracked some financial workers at the financial institutions. you followed this around, it's amazing that you got that access and they were willing to talk to you. one of the things you point out
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in your book is that you say it's glamor meets masoe kiss because they work hard. >> they do. they make good money. these are 22-year-olds coming out of college, making from $90,000 to $130 or $140,000, which is great money for someone that young. on the other hand, they don't have time to spend it. they are in the office sometimes 100, 110 hours a week. there's a banker nine to five they talk about where you work from 9am to 5am the next day. and it's a culture of extreme unpredictability. you never know when the blackberry will buzz and you have to go back to work. a lot of people i followed were truly miserable. >> some felt sorry for themselves despite making a lot of money. you talked about one calculating how much they were paid if they were paid by the hour. whichway be about $16, but one
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complaining about a $25,000 bonus not being enough. can we really feel sorry for them? >> that's something i tried to put aside for the sake of the book. i wanted to keep my own judgments out of it and let the people tell their stories. >> this is not a culture that has been exampled in depth. these people are not allowed to talk to the media. i had to change their names, it was done without the permission of their employers, and i think i really wanted to let them tell their stories, and i - i don't feel sorry for them much. halfway before reporting my book t occurred that i wouldn't switch lives. i don't think i would want to do that. >> an important question you raised, and you do it in colourful language is pretty much are jerks drawn to these wall street jobs or are they caught up in a vortex that turns them into jerks? >> i don't think - i mean, of
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the eight people that i followed, i wouldn't characterise any of them as jerks. people come to wall street for different reasons than i expected. i thought, you know, people come to wall street, they are in it for the money. clearly, obviously, why would anyone do it. what they told me, the eight people, is they came for reasons having to do with security and stability and having a job after college. big banks are good at recruiting, coming to your college, if you go to an ivy league school, saying, "drop your resume in the box, we'll call you, you have to do it for two years, and then follow your true passions", they pay you well for a couple of years. the question that's raised so much in the media over the last decade in particular, and some of the 1%ers took issue is how they've been demonized and how walters have been demonized as being horrible human being, and
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prima donas. isn't that true of every business where people end up being successful? if you look at actors, and prima donors. there's so much attention to the money on wall street. no one complains about the guys out west. >> money is transformative. the difference with wall street is that their misbehaviour affects millions of people. if someone on silicon valley, or the jets screws up, they are not getting people foreclosed on. they are not costing people their jobs or their 401 ks. wall street has an effect on the rest of their country, touching everyone's lives, and that's why people get angry when the financial sector screws up. >> your book is discussion, including a social media posing that harmeli aregawi pulled up.
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>> we were having fun with the goldman saks twitter account. he likes your book, but said this about the people you profiled: >> that's an interesting question and i talk about this in the book. there's an inherent selection bias, these are people who agreed to talk to me to put their careers on the line to talk to me. so clearly they found something redeeming in me. clearly they were a little more renegade than their colleagues. it's a fair point.
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i met people who were incredibly successful and happy, loved their jobs, and couldn't imagine doing anything else with their lives. what is changing is the average harvard student studying history and philosophy. those people used to go to wall street because it was there. >> and the money. >> i don't think it's happening as much any more. >> seems the numbers are down when it comes to that path on wall street. one of the things your book generated controversy about is the secret society of wall street big wigs, and you snuck into a meeting where many dress up in drag. let's see that.
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>> that's the audio from a performance going on. you snuck your way into this. my reaction is it's sad. i'm not a secret society guy, but this is ... >> you wouldn't admit it if you were >> good point. this was classless. >> this would have been cut from "the wolf of wall street" for being over the top. it's a secret society, i snuck into the annual dipper and saw a bunch of wealthy business people behaving like 19-year-old college students. it was incredible. >> how do they get so far out of touch? >> a lot is social isolation. when you get that wealthy and successful and been in the industry that long, all your friends are bankers, all your acquaintances are bankers. everyone you spend time with works with you as hired help or
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below you at the company or on your level in the industry. i don't think a lot of guys have social circles extending beyond wall street. >> three of the eight are the only ones of the eight you profiled, only three are left on wall street. interesting book, it is: >> great to have you on the show. >> time to see what is trending on the web. have you a racially charged case. >> that's right, police identified three 19-year-old suspects in the james meredith news case. over the weekend authorities found a news and a flag with a confed rate emblem around the flag of the first black student to enrol at the school. campus police and lawyer believe: >> police said three suspects are white and declined to comment. the sci is involved, and will press hate-crime charges if it's
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cartoo cartoons, the little leg is bigger than ever. it was facing collapse. 94% of its line was unprofitable. how did it build back from near oblivion to construct an empire that spans all forms of entertainment. we are joined from mountain view california from a professor at the horton school of business where he teaches innovation and product development and the author of: >> good to have you on the show. a generation of children have read the books, watched tv shows, animated shorts - it's conceivable they may not have played with real lagos. >> that's right. but when you think about what lego's business is, which is
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buying plastic is the 60 or $0.75 a kilogram and selling it at $60 a kilogram, the market is too competitive. the europeans or chinese make a box for less. they have to tell a story and have the cartoons and the websites and the stores and other events to get kids involved with the stories and make the boxes of bricks irresistible. >> before the stories, they were irresistible throughout the 1900s, and they are named toy of a century. within a couple of years they were on the verge of collapse. what happened? >> it's easy to look back on it. and think it's reddick u louse. in the '90s, a lot of people lost their heads, thinking they'd be disrupted by a virtual
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experience. in the late '90s, they thought the nguyen tendos and -- nintendos and play stations would bring in the digital toys. they brought in an expert to run the company. he invested in play experiences and they ended up with big hits. they had bionicles and lego harry potter, and a lot of toys that weren't appropriate, weren't good and they got into businesses that they didn't understand. not very profitable. they didn't make money for them. it came crashing down in 2003, and they were close to bankruptcy. they almost went out of business. >> what did they do to make it come back from the brink? >> they learnt a couple of lessons. one is that the digital did not disrupt the physical, that if kids play with virtual lego,
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they want more plastic bricks, not less. they learnt you want to compliment the box of bricks with the video game, with the cartoon show, the comic book and the lego movie. but it can't be a box of bricks. they have to work on developing all these complimentary innovations. >> not only were they successful in doing that, they were grown by leaps and bound during the recession, making a billion dollars in 2012. what are the lessons that their success in that turnaround can teach to other industries. >> it's amazing. here is a company that can do incremental improvement in the basic product. they've grown sales at 24%, and profits at 40% per year, every year for the last five years. the lesson that i draw for the reason i want to rite the book
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is they are superbly good at doing the portfolios of innovations. the box of bricks, stories, video games - lots of little innovation, each of which is at low risk, making an unbeatenable offering to the market. the best companies, like the car max in autoretailing, apple, consumer electronics, red bull are doing the same strategy, and it saved lego. we can't invest in them because they are owned by a company in denmark. by a family in denmark, is that why we never hear about lego, because it's a low-key family, a private company. >> yes, it must be part of it. i found half-a-dozen lists of the most innovative company, and lego isn't in the top 50 of any of them, it's an untold story that i was happy to tell through the book. >> incredible.
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with the profits you'd think they'd get more attention. the boom: >> great to have you on the show. >> straight ahead - the polar vortex left much of america freezing and buried in snow. a manmade issue made things worse. whispers and smears are part of an oscar campaign. does the negativitiy work? surprising answer coming up. >> all these folks are making a whole lot of money. >> you are one of the voices of this show. >> i think you've offended everyone with that kathy. >> hold on, there's some room to offend people, i'm here. >> we have a right to know what's in our food and monsanto do not have the right to hide it from us. >> so join the conversation and make it your own. >> watch the stream. >> and join the conversation online @ajamstream. >> i'm joie chen, i'm the host of america tonight, we're revolutionary because
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brutal weather and storms helped to wipe out rock salt supplies. leftover snow turned to ice, with no salt, there's a lot of angry residents. seeing enough red that would melt the snow on its own. some places found creative alternatives. wisconsin upped the use of liquid cheese brine to melt road ice. tens of thousands was mixed to help salt stick to the road. no wonder they like cheese. they have used 60% more salt than the past five winters. new jersey used pickle juice, a mixture of salt and water that is cheaper than rock salt, a third of the price. others tried beet syrup, tomato juice and tommato, and in kansas they used sand. sand covers, but does it melt snow? indiana's department of
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transportation has nearly blown the winter budget. the snow season is far from over. 31 million of its $33 million budget is gone. the shortage of rock salt has, of course, driven up the price. there's stories of price gougeing. normal price is $50 a tonne, shooting up to 250. atlanta was looking into a subcontractor, delaying deliver with one, negotiating with another, leaving troubled drivers in the lunch. coming up, do smears campaigns work to win an oscar. the sometimes ugly business of the academy awards. >> both parties are owned by the corporations. >> ..entertaining >> it's fun to play with ideas. >> ...thought provoking >> get your damn education. >> ...surprising >> oh, absolutely! >> ...exclusive one-on-one interviews with the most interesting people of our time.
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and mud slinging, no matter true or false have overtaken oscar campaigns but do they work? bill wyman, good to see you. we have already seen some targeted campaigns against dallas buyers club and wolf of wall street. are they having an effect? >> it's hard to tell and you hollywood. there is a lot of acting going on so there's smear campaigns and then there's the telling people that you're the victim of smear campaigns. it benefits you on both sides, quite often. dallas buyers club it might a little bit. if it is indeed true that the lead character was made to be something that he really wasn't. on the other hand, most people give math knew mcconaughey really -- matthew mcconaughey really high chances of winning best actor.
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the wolf of wall street, i don't see that as a big winner in any case so it's hard to tell. >> moifs are somehow seen or the actors to as victims? >> oh absolutely. in basketball it is called, what is it called, flopping oh my god i'm the victim of a smear campaign. people do this really well. the academy runs a very, very tight ship. they don't let a lot of this get out of hand. there is a lot of pressure that builds up underneath the surface. occasionally you get little samples of it. it doesn't happen that much but it always makes every annual campaign interesting. >> some people think the greatest of all time might have lost the oscar because of a smear campaign. >> right, zen kane he didn't like it all, he banned it from
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his newspapers, william randolph hearst. but if he took not a liking to a certain movie. one or two over the years where you have seen this happen but on the other hand, there is a whole lot of movies, a beautiful mind is a really good example that still won best picture and best director. so it's hard to tell how much it actually affects. >> ben afte affleck and matt damon, were up for best screenplay, for goodwill hunting. >> that was a good example, where it was a backlash. the voters are a very small group, 6,000 people based in the film industry. they are very smart people and wrernt born yesterday. a -- weren't born yesterday. it turned out with goodwill hunting there really wasn't any
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basis to these allegations. and again, it's really interesting because this was sort of the rise of the in indy film. it wroo was an your in your film. >> ha hey they set, we didn't write it. but ben affleck would be for argo after there were astacks on its veracity. >> ben affleck is very well liked and he is an actor. the actors make up the largest part of the academy. he wasn't even nominated for
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best director. you have to take it into account too. >> social media has a new wrinkle on the smear campaigns. hermella. >> zero dark 30 was targeted for its depiction of torture. a lot of tweets like, oh torture works? thanks hollywood. i think it's dangerous about a film that spreads the subject to be so commended. how does it play into the oscar smear campaign now? >> i think it does too. if you are embarking on the oscar smeesh are -- smear campaign, you can push your particular position along. i accessory zero dark 30 along with wolf of wall street. again it's kind of hard to say, katherine bigelow won the oscar and best picture a year or two earlier so if you say oh it
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didn't win it's hard to say that it was because the smear campaign because it's hard to see you know someone like her. it's very rare for people to win things that close together. she's obviously very well respected in hollywood. >> then there's the flip side of it, positive campaigning that's big for it too. robert redford didn't get a nomination, he didn't campaign for it. if politics is a big part of the process? >> it works for some people not for others. some people who dismissed the oscars, are snubbed by the academy. woody allen who has never participated in any of the nonsense, are still and were still academy award favorites. there are rules that apply to certain people and rules that apply to others. it was kind of unusual that redford didn't get nominated but it seems like one of these days
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