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wild, inside the deadly word of neknominating. you may want to neck on your investments, a rough road ahead. >> welcome to "consider this." here's more on what's ahead: >> two u.s. officials are now telling us the two communication systems were shut down separately. >> not that subject to debate. >> based on new information, an additional search area may be opened in the indian ocean. >> we still believe we have a chance to resolve this conflict in a peaceful manner. >> is russia prepared to find a way to negotiate? >> this is a very tense and dangerous situation. >> everybody's saying look, this recovery's finally sustainable. >> i say this great depression is going to start in 2014. this bubble's going to burst. >> they are challenging, saying
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in the next 24 hours, can you top this. >> people can go over board and get hurt. >> we begin with a confusion in the search for malaysian airlines flight. a new indication is that the plane's disappearance was no accident. while no one knows for certain if mechanical failure, or a highjacking is to blame, it is reported that the u.s. believes a manual intervention, systematically shut down two of the jet liners communication systems. the data reporting system at 1:07 a.m. and the transponder, which sense altitude and location at 1:21 a.m. meanwhile, the guided missile destroyer has been deployed to search part of the indian ocean west of malaysia, opposite the direction of the main search effort. analysis by u.s. investigators
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of signals sent by the plane's satellite communication link shows that the plane could have kept flying for hours after other communication systems were turned off. officials now say they don't know how long the plane stayed airborne. the malaysian transport minister said the satellite images possibly thought to show airplane wreckage were a false lead. >> we defloyd efforts but found nothing. the chinese embassy notified us that the images were released by mistake and did not show "debris. >> prayers are being offered around southeast asia for the passengers. from the malaysian capitol to the streets of the philippine capitol, candles were lit for the missing. for more, i'm joined from miami by a former member of the national transportation security board. good to have you with us, john.
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if this weren't so serious, it would be a comedy of errors, back and forth, mistaken information. let's address this latest information, reported system take turning off of the communication systems. what does that tell you? >> that certainly somebody took deliberate actions to try a mask the electronic signature from this airplane and that would lead to many theories of intentional act. >> we're obviously speculating based on this information, but why would somebody intentionally turn off the systems if all they intended to do was destroy the plane? >> maybe they didn't intend to destroy the airplane, maybe it was an act of piracy, they're going to turn it off and take it to some location and ransom for money, for some political agenda someplace and maybe it's gone bad. maybe they weren't pilots on the airplane but had just enough
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education to force the pilots to turn off the electronic signature equipment, which me failed to do, so one has to say that they may not have been the pilots. i've heard a lot of people say it could be pilot suicide, based upon turning these botches off and the signals attempt to turn off would tell me it may not be the pilots. >> you're talking about these satellite linked transmissions that kept coming from the airplane about once an hour, that may show flight 370 stayed alost for hours after its last confirmed contact. what are those transmissions and how reliable are they? >> they are reliable. this airplane is one of the safest platforms and redundant systems galore on the airplane. they are reliable forms of communication. the triple seven is built with
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sat com, laid out from the factory. it was always assumed that the triple seven because of the long distances over remote areas would need sat com for communications. 1994 is not frock 13 as far as communications. they have the latest and greatest at that time and they are very reliable. it tells us if you subscribe to the boeing health monitoring system, that airplane talks to boeing constantly telling them the status of everything on the airplane. reports have said that malaysia did not subscribe to that program, because it's expensive. the system is still on the airplane and it's one thing to communicate, it's just not the signal's not being returned to keep the blast of information flowing. >> again, i realize that we are speculating. i realize, also, that the plane
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could fly on auto pilot until it ran out of fuel, but this new information about this manual turning off changes things a bit, but could it be possible that there was some sort of decompression that deprived everyone onboard of oxygen and this plane stayed aloft until it ran out of fuel. >> the 14 minutes between those signals, those systems getting turned off says no. it says that 14 minutes is too long, at 30 some add thousand feet, you get 92nds to put your oxygen mask on, so that's a lot different than 14 minutes. >> if the flight did turn and head over the indian ocean, the area that it could have reached is absolutely massive. we're talking about and area that could go as far as from australia to the him lay i canes, depending on which way that plane went. as former ntsb investigator alan
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told me, this is finding a needle not in a haystack, but a hay field. >> it is going to be a difficult task. it's encouraging that the navy's resources are being amped up. if the fact the airplane is in the water, they have a pinger on the recorders and will last about 30 days, and because of the cold war, the u.s. navy has some pretty sophisticated underwater capability. i'm glad to see them putting their latest anti submarine aircraft to play in the area, because there's some interesting technology on that airplane that can help considerably. >> our satellites have tremendous capabilities. it turns out satellite pictures that showed debris had nothing to do with the flight. the chinese said it was a mistake that those pictures were reds. "the new york times" said
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malaysian officials are only now sharing military radar reads of the u.s. and china data they withheld for national security reasons. are governments getting in the way of finding this? >> clearly. that whole thing about national security interests ring hollow with me. aviation investigators and like the ntsb or britain or french authorities, we are not unfamiliar with having to control information and working on the edges of national security issues, so these investigators are professionals. they know how to keep their mouths shut. they don't fear share that data. they slowed down or repeated the investigation. if you just look at what's happened in the last 36 hours since they started to share the radar data, look at all the leads that have come up, all the directions we're following. this should have been done within the first 24 hours, not
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five days into the investigation. it's a tragedy for the investigation, but it's a bigger tragedy for the families that ever to continue wondering and suffering through this before we get a definitive answer. >> for the sake of the families, i hope they figure out what happened as soon as possible. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> with only three days before crimea votes on whether to secede from ukraine. russian troops at three different sites along ukraine's border allegedly for military exercises. it was met with a threat of economic retaliation. uconn's prime minister told the u.n. security council that peace is still possible. >> we still believe that we
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have a chance. >> the author of a new book joins us. from 2004 to 2006, she first national intelligence officer for russia andure asia at the national intelligence council. good of you to join us. do you think as the prime minister said that there's any chance this will be resolved peacefully? all indications are that they will vote to secede to russia in this referendum. >> i think what the prime minister meant, he was talking about what might happen after sunday. sunday there will be a referendum, presumably people will vote to join russia, but that's going to be peaceful in as much as they're not going to be shooting each other. the concern is what happens after that and the concern that this conflict might spread to
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the eastern part of ukraine where today someone was stabbed and president putin said last week if russians in the eastern part of ukraine feel insecure and want help by russia, they will help them. i believe that was what he was alluding to, not to the actual referendum sunday. >> that is the bigger worry. russia staged these troops along the eastern border with ukraine and announced that putin doctrine that he can protect russian people in other parts of the world. do you think that the russians might actually move their military into the eastern part of the country? >> well, hopefully they won't do that. until recently, people thought that what happened in crimea, this was putin's desire to get crimea because he lost out after this revolution in kiev and the deal he thought he had with the government no longer stood, but he has limited aims. most people assume that is still the case, but there's been
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enough tough and inflammatory rhetoric and military exercises and counter rhetoric on the western side that some people are beginning to ask has he set his sights on more of ukraine. in that case, that would be a disaster, because that would lead to civil war. >> could he push to have something like what happened in crimea happened in the east, to call for some sort of referendum there? we're seeing violence in other places in eastern ukraine from russian protestors. >> it happened quickly in crimea once the russian troops had come there, they immediately said we want this referendum. it's theoretically possible that some of the other east he were cities have said we would like to be with russia, too. there's provocation going on. we don't know who's starting all this violence and who's asking for this referendum, but it's not inconceivable that they could ask for such a referendum
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and really what the u.s. and allies, the rest of the world has to do is get everyone to talk to each other, to step back a minute and to make sure that that doesn't happen. that's the real challenge. it's not the referendum on sunday. it's what happens the week after. >> talking about what the u.s. should do, the administration says it's still considering a request from ukraine for military assistance. is there any chance that would happen? even without sending troops near ukraine wouldn't it be military escalation? >> i think what you're going to hear is the pentagon, white house saying nothing is off the table, but let's wait and see and again trying to get the kremlin to talk to the interim government in ukraine and get
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everyone to step back and deescalate the ice. >>. once we would supply ukraine with new hardware and step up our military relationship, that could provoke counter steps from the russians. >> german chancellor angela merkel warned that moscow would not get away with annexing crimea and germany is the most strategically impacted by this. what does that tell us about their relationship and putin's mindset? >> germany has always been a strong partner, a close economic relationship and germany has always had the sympathy for russia, it's grateful for russia to allowing germany to reunify peacefully and she comes from east germany. they've gone out of their way to understand the russian position here and give them the benefit of the doubt.
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the fact that she has been unable to get president putin to reason at all, it shows in her frustration. you can even look at the body language and i think this is the first time i've ever heard her say that she's willing to consider really tough economic sanctions, and then of course, we have that leaked comment from her in a conversation with president obama saying that she didn't believe that president putin's view of reality according to what was in fact happening. it sounds as if she's reached the end of her rope at the moment and has no other idea about how to get putin back off. >> interesting you bring up body language. we're going to have somebody look at facial aspects of vladimir putin and what he's been saying over the last few days later on in the show. of course, secretary of state john kerry will meet tomorrow with the russian foreign minister and we'll see what comes of that. the book is "the limits of partnership, u.s.-russian relations in
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the 21st 21st century." >> coming up, deadly unrest in venezuela. what do the student protestors want? >> the latest craze called crazy, leaving people dead. what do you think? join the conversation on our facebook and twitter pages. >> an ameica tonight special series >> this baby is in withdrawal... how addiction affects the most innocent. >> he just went quiet and his lips turned blue... >> is there hope? addicted in vermont on al jazeera america
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>> venezuelas opposition protestors are coming under pressure from the venezuela president following more deadly violence and declaration from a general that some protestors were becoming an armed insurgency. shooting incidents in the city wednesday had three people killed including a student, a man painting his house and national guard captain with that
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the president moved to ramp up security operations after claiming police searches found weapons, plastic explosives and bombs. prosecutors said thursday the death toll has reached 28 people since protests over the failing economy and rampant crime began a little more than a month ago. for more on where the protests and particularly the student movement are going, i'm joined i don't mean caracas by a student leader, active in the protest movement. good to have you back on the show. you sent a link to a powerful video of a protest in caracas on wednesday. we have video from reuters that shows the chaos of what was going on there. what happened? >> well yes, first of all, thank you for the opportunity. yesterday, the student movement have it the whole society to walk demanding peace and justice. the national attorney isn't
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answering the questions we're asking, and we yesterday wanted to go there and demand changes in this office. the answer of the government was to block all the ways and the police and a group of the national guard, they prohibit our way, our march and actually, supporters could walk if they want to the building we wanted to go. that was the place where the march was stopped. we received a lot of oppression from the government, more than 800 tear gases were shot and many students lost the breath and had problems yesterday in caracas. in have valencia, two people were killed. violence is raising and the responsible of the situation is the government. >> the national attorney is hour
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equivalent of the attorney general, and little scary to watch that video. you sent us a link to a video posted several weeks ago where you and other students demanded the release of political prisoners, called for the disarming of pro government thugs and for no more government censorship of the media. has anything changed since then? >> well, no. nothing has changed, given this attitude, three weeks ago, they are now more strong than ever. we are demanding justice for students who are in prison, also, demanding the government to renew and make changes in the head of the powers. we are asking specifically to the national authority to make changes in the policy and the president has to answer, because what we said three weeks ago is not the student movement claims only, little the society claims
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and the dissenting voice of many people who don't have the opportunity to talk and demand changes for them. >> i want to read you a statement from the chief of the strategic operational command. he said that the protests in valencia were eye designing new methods to deal with this attack. it's already converting into an armed terrorist insurgency." while i realize the major protests have been peaceful, we have seen violence at night from some protestors. what do you say to the accusation that it is becoming an armed insurgency? >> for having a violent movement, you first of all have to have weapons. we have no weapons, no violence. it is impossible for us to go in a violent way. we know who has the guns. the violence and weapons are owned by the government and groups they support. you know who has guns in the
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street? the groups that are responsible for violence. if the government wants to erase the violence in the streets, they have to talk these groups and make them punished. the situation in caracas and valencia, there's something we have to say about the military, many military didn't respond to the orders of attacking and making violent attacks to the students on the streets. those military were detained by the chiefs, so in the army, and other groups of the government, there are many people answering not to the violence who doesn't respond the same way the president wants to do, because what we are living is unfair and not what venezuelans want.
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>> you say the opposition doesn't have arms, but we did see, an aljazeera correspondent shot videos of protestors putting together molotov cocktails. you're the head of students at one major university, you mentioned the country's largest university where the protests were yesterday. are you coordinating with other student leaders at other universities in other cities and trying to keep things peaceful? >> yes, last sunday we had a big meeting in caracas from all the universities of veeps, also there was another meeting of young people, young political leaders and students who are trying to make an agenda and make plans for the protest. we are coordinating activity in all venezuela. we know sometimes violence comes on the streets, it's not from our side. all the way to solve this
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situation is not with more violence. it's not with more weapons, it's not with more guns. venezuelans, we are demanding, shouting for the changes in the way we are living. if the president actually commits to make these changes, and we the students, we see these commitments, we will change the current situation and we will go in a conversation with him, trying to get solutions for venezuela. the violence isn't solved with more violence. it is solved with ideas, and with commitment of change. the president has the opportunity to do it, so we are waiting for him. >> meanwhile, things seem to be escalating, the government has threatened, two cities in caracas are threatened with prison if they don't stop the protests in their cities. appreciate you joining us, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> >> switching to a drinking game
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that's gone viral on social media, but it's also turned deadly. called neknominating, they dare friends in on line videos to one up what they did. our social media producer reports on a dangerous game that has already claimed five lives worldwide. >> it's called neknominating and takes the conventional drinking game and dramatically ups the stakes using social media. it starts by drinking or necking, and then the person nominates other people by name. challenging them to stop the drinking in outland issue and dangerous ways.
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the on line videos pressure the nominated people into participating. the game is believed to ever started in the u.k. when ross sampson posted this video on christmas day last year. >> i nominate all of you, who's birthday it's not, merry christmas. >> a facebook page created on the same day credits sampson for starting the craze. sometimes they add dead animals into their drinks. at least five men from the u.k. and ireland have died participating in this. >> we found a couple of guys in washington state neknominating, but so far, it doesn't look like this game is gaining traction in the u.s. >> let's certainly hope it doesn't. >> i hope not. >> to discuss this further, joining us now from los angeles is psychologist wendy walsh, also following this trend, good
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to have you back on the show. binge drinking, getting drunk and doing crazy things might have started at someone's idea of fun, but five people have died. why would anybody find this appealing? >> it's mostly taking place with young men and motor nature is very perfect, making sure more boy babies are born than female. between the ages of 15-25, the testosterone surge makes men try all kinds of at-risk behavior, joining gangs, wars, driving cars fast or drinking too much on the internet. there are always going to be a few knuckleheads and a few will lose their lives. this is a tragic one in a public way. >> some neknominating are women. one of the most recent stunts in the u.k. involved a 21-year-old woman who rode a horse into a store, doing all of this as part
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of a neknominating dare. it does seem to be about showing off and voyeurism, your friends see you and you somehow get a thrill out of it? >> the research is clear that what the internet has done is give a wonderful platform to extrovert, to narcissists, correlating with internet use. a whole bunch of other people are watching and laughing, but whether they're male or female, the industry has given a platform to these people. >> others have argued that it's really not so much about it being really appealing, that there's a dark side to it, it's more about bullying, this is putting peer pressure on people to end up doing stupid and dangerous things. >> i might argue that long before the internet, this was happening at frat parties and dorm rooms and in hazings all over the world, really and specifically in this country.
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in a way, the fact that it's on line is now bringing this problem out into the open where you and i can talk about it, governments can talk about it, parents can warn their children about it. sadly, people died in dark frat houses long before this and nobody knew why they died of alcohol poisoning. >> you're right. that brings up an important point, just how big of a problem drinking already is in the u.s. especially in college. the numbers about college students and drinking are really shocking, four out of five students drink, half of those are believed to binge drink. the national institutes for alcohol believe 825 college students die every year from alcohol unintentional injuries. 690,000 students are assaulted by another student who's been drinking and a lot of them sexually assaulted, 97,000
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students victims of related sexual assault or date rape. the numbers go on and on and on. what can be done to combat this? >> i would say that number on sexual assault is highly underreported, because there's so much shame around this issue. the issue is how do we teach children or adolescents, really, to drink responsible. in europe, they thought the idea was to start them a year or drinking at the home. in italy, there's no drinking age, kind of a guideline. the average age children start having wine with their parents is 12. i'm not sure that that's all the way. we keep moving the drinking age to older and older and older and you can die for your country at 18 but not have a shot of whiskey until you're 21. i don't know that that's the answer, either. >> a facebook page devoted to this game shows that it's made this way to the u.s., of course
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all the deaths so far have occurred overseas in the united kingdom and northern ireland. how much traction do you think it will gain here? >> i did hear that my own college nephew in canada has someone asked him to participate in this and of course he wasn't about to be shamed by it. americans tend to be -- they tend to be less conformists and stand on their own and may not take these bets or bullying pressures. we'll see what happens. i do know having lived in europe a couple of times in my life, correlated, there's much more drinking there than here, because culture ally, there's pressure to conform. here in america, we don't need alcohol to be crazy, so i don't think it will catch on as much as we think. >> i would never argue for any kind of sensorship, but should social media companies, facebook
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and twitter do more to combat these videos? you tube said it does take offensive content now if it is flagged and facebook gave us a statement saying : >> what do you think? should these companies do more? >> if we make social media culpable, we need to make culpable the alcohol companies who market directly to young people and even adolescents. i think -- i don't think that's going to solve it. social media, it's good and bad that this is on social media. the bad is maybe the odd kid, young person is going to think it's a cruel trend and adopt it, but plenty more are going to be warned because they're seeing
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this and you and i talked about it, the deaths from alcohol poisoning are real. >> there's a facebook page put up encouraging people instead of neknominating to do good deeds and create a chain of good deeds instead. >> i like that one. >> me, too. >> good to have you on the show. >> straight ahead, is wall street in for a rude awakening? a stark look at our economic future from stocks to real estate. >> later, finding what vladimir putin is really saying about the u.s. here's a hint, he's not using his words to say it.
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>> is the economy getting better or the worst still to come? a forecaster said we could see the biggest downturn and crash of our lifetime starting this year. he says the younger generation can blame their parents and grandchildren for having too few children in the 1960's. a lot of economists on the show recently have been bullish about where the economy is going and stock market is going. you on the other hand of a major bear. >> yeah, i specialize in seeing things that people don't see, like the collapse of japan in the late 1980's and boom in the europe and united states around the world in the 1990's, they
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look at present conditions, i look at the things people do as they age. we can predict spending and booms and busts in economies around the world decades in advance. we're at a major turning point. it's every cycle i have points down for the next six years starting early this year. >> you focus on 3d.s, and look at demographic chart that shows how people are predictable. you show the peek of buying homes is 31, people borrow the most at 41, spend the most on potato chips at 42. they save the most at able 54, but that chart clearly shows a major drop off in spending when people hit their 50's. now with baby boomers all older than 50, you think that the baby bust that followed in the 1960's will lead to economic decline? >> yeah. governments have had to stimulate to such extreme levels just to fight these demographic
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head winds. the book points out it's not peaking in all countries at the same time. japan came first and then u.s. and north america. europe goes off this cliff. germany's got the worst chart for demographic spending have any country in the world and everybody thinks germany's going to hold up europe. we can see when this is going to happen. more and more countries are going to go off this demographic cliff and stimulus plans are going to fail sips they've already pushed them beyond any com presencable limit. >> isn't the determining factor for the economy, the immediateian able 36, germany 45. it's still doing fairly well, maybe having more issues than years past, but don't we have some room to age and be prosperous? >> it's not the median age. germany's older on average that that the united states, but it's where the bulk of spenders are in the mid to
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late 40's. germany will start falling off the cliff literally this year in a steep drop. germany looks worse than japan looked to us in 1989 when we were the only person in the world that i know of that forecast japan was going to have a major downturn while the left of the world boomed. you have to look at indicators to tell you where the future's going, not present. germany's doing fine because of exports only, exports around the world, the world trade is slowing and that's hitting china, as well and they've got the biggest bubble that's going to burst and nobody even sees that. that's the most obvious bubble i've seen in history. >> your theory is from the congressional budget office, a recent report that most people focused on the obamacare side of it, losing to jobs in the united states. it did predict that we would see slow growth after 2017. your predictions are a slowdown and stock crash that will
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separate between the beginning of this year in 2015 and another crash between 2015-2020 and you think that the dow might reach 17,000, but it might be down to 6,000 by 2016. if that's the case, that's a 63% plummet, worse than the great recession. what should people do? >> here's the pattern first. it's obvious, everybody is so denial they won't look at it. each bubble that we had has taken us higher. this next should peak around 17,000 and go down to 5,000 or 6,000 by 2015 or 2016. this is a very obvious pattern. we've had the greatest debt level in history. all governments have done is force money so the economy to allow the banks to not fail and have to write down loans and not
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write down loans for every day people which would be the most useful thing. we're going to have a bigger crash. we have to deleverage death and recognize that demographics are going to slow in western developed countries for years ahead. you can't present like this isn't the case. >> with the demographics slowing, then you're saying with all this debt, there will be less spending, that will lead to deflation, that will lead to major issues with real estate values. while you have been right many times in the past, you've also been wrong. i want to play something from cnbc a couple of months ago. >> demographics do not have a very strong predictive value. 1998, harry wrote a book saying the dow is going to 39,000. he wrote about the great depression and the economy's gone to new highs and g.d.p.
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retail sales ever rebounded nicely. >> what do you say in response to that? >> we really looking he was wrong about the date that have book it was in the 1990's, that we would have a second bubble after the tech bubble finally burst and we did. in past technology cycles and demographic cycles, we had a bigger bubble instead of smaller. commodity prices were going up and a geopolitical cycle is one of the worst in history. i actually discovered those two new cycles. in the 1990's, the demographics were highly predictive. every major stock peak has come when generations are peaking spending. ron and shana don't know anything about demographics. we've got more cycles coming together than i've ever seen. we told people to buy after the
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tech wreck. in october, 2002, right at the bottom, because our technologies moving mainstream were in a positive cycle and we'd had an extreme crash. now i'm saying we had the boom, technology trends have peeked for now, demographic trends have peeked. we're living on total stimulus and nothing else and this is going to fail because all four of the key cycles i've studied and developed over 30 years of diligent research, i know what i'm doing with regard to these long term trends. these things are pointing down together. >> good of you to join us. >> coming up, the pentagon spent a princely sum to study vladimir putin's body language for years. we'll speak to an expert on facial nationals. >> the $250 hamburger, but that price tag
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>> in today's data difficult, we heard about a ridiculously pricey burger to find others
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were more expensive. beer and buns will have a $250 hamburger on the menu. it will be made of kobe beef, white truffles and caviar. caviar? who wants fish eggs on their bugger. it's not the motor expensive in new york city. serendipity charges more. it has beef in fused with white truffle butter, smoked sea salt, cave abled cheddar, shaved black troves and chinese caviar. that isn't the motor expensive in manhattan. there's a six hundred sixty-six-dollar burger. it has champagne steamed melted
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cheese and a special coffee bean barbecue sauce. it's served with a gold leaf wrapper. the most expensive burger in the world, how about $333,000? this one is really special, made from meat grown in petry dishes in a lab at a university in the nexter hand. they started with stem cells extracted from a biopsy of a cow and it took three months to grow. the people who tasted it said the taste was neutral. if they could bring the cost down, it could save an awful lot of cows. >> decoding vladimir putin's messages without even hearing him speak.
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>> $300,000 a year to study the body language of world leaders? the pentagon admits that's how much it's spending to study vladimir putin and others, but is it money well spent? let's ask dr. dan hill, joining us from minneapolis, the
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president of sensory logic, inc. you consult with other multi-national corporations. i should say that this is coming from one office that seems to try all sorts of unconventional methods in looking at international policy and apparently it's never really been used to do anything. secretary of defense chuck hagel said he learned about it when he read about it in a news report. let me ask you the general question about body language in particular. how valuable is it? >> body language is as good as far as it goes, the problem is that it's not universal. there are certain hand gestures in particular with certain cultures. >> the face is different, you say it can tell you more than the body, that these micro expressions are ours are much more accurate, you can interpret
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them in a much more clear way? >> yeah, there's two great things about the face, one in spontaneity, the only place in the body where the muscles attach right to the skin so gives you quick, realtime data. that's those micro expressions that you refer to maybe in .1 you'll show an expression that reveals how you really feel. it's fair for the knowing eye, so that's the first key thing. the second thing, we're talking about putin is that facial expressions universal. in fact, even a person born blind emoats the same way. this carries across gender, cultures and goes to specific emotions so you get a richer read. you know whether you have anger, sadness, fear, happiness. body language can't do that. >> how much of a science is this? i remember a t.v. show that focused on all this and an expert who could tell when
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people are lying. how valuable is that? >> the origins are charles darwin, the first scientists to take emotions seriously, an advisor to the you're lying show went through the school of medicine in san francisco for a 15 year stretch, systemmisticly figured out the facial action coding system. it's quite scientific. >> vladimir putin, one of the things you noticed was anger. >> you see strong indications of anger. this is a press conference when he had begun to get the troops out to exercise
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near the ukraine border. you ever the mouth tightening, the eyebrows lowering, the eyes getting almost to narrow slits in some cases. this is really a pretty profound degree of anger, and it is an emotion about several things, one, clearly aggressive. i'm going to hit, reef out. this is a man who put forces into crimea. it's also an emotion about i want to be in control of my destiny and i will get madder to the extent i feel an injustice has been served. there's anger, a sense of wanting revenge, retaliation in the facial expresses of putin here. >> you also saw smirking and disgust, and you believe that that was worrysome in this cases. >> we're trying to get to a diplomatic settlement. what are the odds?
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probably less dealing with a leader who is smirking about the opposition. i noticed when i was talking about obama, and a smirk shows at the corner of the mouth, basically a mixture of anger and happiness. you feel mad about the other side, you don't trust or respect them, but have an element of superiority. i think he looks at obama as someone not on his level, not as tough minded, not a worthy adversary. if you don't see someone on the same page and you say, that makes it difficult to negotiate. ultimately contempt is you're rejecting the other side, you're not going to get to a diplomatic solution that way. >> one thing that surprised you was that you saw something that putin does not show often in public. fear. >> yes, i was not expecting the fear element. this is a guy who prides himself on being a tough guy, after all.
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it was a press conference in which he was fielding questions. some of his answers that these were not russian troops, that the military exercises were just by chance. these are answers stretching creduluity. ing a fear is an emotion about i feel under threat, my survival's at stake. the origins of the russian empire were really in kiev. the ukrainian border is only 300 miles from moscow, so i saw a lot of fear with the corner of the mouth pulled wide, eyebrows lifted, ringles across the forehead. this is a more fretful, anxious person. the stakes are rather high. the
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leader who just deposed resembled putin in russia. >> how can we use this interpretation of these micro expresses in a practical way? >> we can use them every day in business meetings, understanding our children when they come home from a date are telling us the truth whether they were drinking or driving. in diplomatic circles, they reveal motivation and character and indications. to move, to make something happen, if you want to know what he's going to do, frankly taking the combination of anger and fear together is a pretty volatile cocktail. it's going to be hard to negotiate with him. he's not likely to back down based on the signals i see here. >> quite fascinating, i must say.
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