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defaulting on loans will lose federal funding. >> after the 2010 deep water horizon explosion, the company was banned from middle, but now have been allowed. airlines plane vanished, new reports say the investigation is focuses on sabotage and the plane's erratic flying. colorado's new marijuana laws are seeing early success but other states plans may get burnt before they catch fire. and the words on your resume that could cost you your next job. hello, i'm antonio mora, welcome to "consider this." here is more on what's ahead. >> there are new signs that foul
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play may have played a role in the plane's disappearance. >> the aircraft continued to ping a satellite to send a signal for up to five hours after it last made contact. >> everything vectors are learning at this point is raising a suspicion that this is no accident. >> sunday is the vote on referendum in crimea. >> off of a diplomatic off ramp has failed again. >> neither we nor the international community will recognize the results of this referendum. >> antigovernment protests are continuing across venezuela. >> secretary of state john kerry says the government must end what he calls a terror campaign. >> we begin with malaysia flight 370. it has been a full week since 239 passengers boarded the flight from kuala lumpur to beijing. new data from malasian military
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radar reportedly say the plane made unusual changes in altitude and altered its course more than twice. indicating the pilot was still in control of the jet. the plane was believed to have kept flying for four hours after diverting can its course to the west. tracking devices may intren intentionally turned off in the -- intentionally turned off in the cockpit. the u.s. navy has joined the search for the plane based on automated pings, made to asatellite after radar contact was lost. >> there are four or five possibilities which we are exploring. it could have been done intentionally. it could have been done under duress. we are looking at all the possibilities. >> joings us now from west -- joining us from newton, massachusetts, todd curtis, the
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founder of air safe.com. a website providing the public with information on air safety. he has been involved in numerous plane crash investigations including twa flight 800. thanks for joining us todd. what do you make of these new reports? as we heard, malasian military radar showing the plane changed course abruptly after the are radar was shut off. what could have caused that? >> there could have been many things. as i stated before. the options for a good reason, that is can, pilots dealing with a situation on board, system-failure type situation, and delivery of actions for not so good reasons. someone maliciously trying to pretty the plane where it shouldn't be or being come an deared by one of
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the -- commandeered by one of the pilots. systems inside the airplane that could have this effect that appears to be a deliberate action but in fact could be the crew reacting to an emergency on board. >> but why wouldn't we have heard from them and why were all these systems turned off then? >> well, that's a great question and there's no real answer that, unless and until that aircraft is recovered and information from that aircraft, the black box, cockpit voice recorder and other data is recovered. because normally in an emergency when time is of the essence, navigating the aircraft and maneuvering the aircraft towards a safe landing is far more important than communicating. but it seems to be in this case there were hours of opportunity to communicate with the outside world. through one means or another. >> and the wall street journal is reporting that the
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investigation is on sabotage, and reuters say foul play. but we have information, pings from the plane, that may show it flew hours after the radar. how can you reconcile that with foul play? >> the fbi and other law enforcement is investigating the crew and the passengers. if anything that comes up that points up to some sort of conspiracy on the part of one or more people to do something to the plane and those conspirators were on the plane, that would lend credence to a sabotage or hijacking scenario. if nothing comes up, if records turn up clean, if there's nothing that points to a financial or a political reason for doing this. then perhaps, a multiple system failure, without having the physical structure of the aircraft it's hard to determine
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which of those theories carries more water. >> it's -- what a mystery. thank you todd for joining us. and for more on what investigators are looking for we are joined by richard marquis, chief of the terrorist and analytical center for the fbi, he was the lead criminal investigator on pan am flight number 103 that exploded over lockerbie , scotland. what are investigators doing, where do you start, if now the wisdom seems to be there may play? >> good evening, antonio, it's good to be back. the first thing that happens is investigators a week ago had to assume this was a criminal event, until something, systems failure, they recover the airplane, the black box. but without that you have to
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consider that this is a criminal event and you have to go at the airport, you have to determine who all the passengers are, conduct the crew, the passengers and crew, about 239 people, background investigations on every one of them, anybody who touched those people or airplane at kuala lumpur, get all the video cameras, computer records, they've got to freeze everything that they get to find out everything about everybody on that plane. because unless it was osystems failure it was someone on that plane that caused a tailor thing to happen. >> so apparently they say they have gone through the list, the passengers and the crew, they have looked at the two iranians that have stolen passports and they found that nobody had links to terrorist extremist groups. does that tell us much? >> well, malaysia has not been a hotbed of terrorism. although some of the
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jemi islamias, a couple of their leaders were from malaysia, there was a meeting about al qaeda in 2000, the men who were on the flight out of dulles airport, meeting in 2000. there are a lot of people who have problems and issues and it could have been a lone person who was wanting to go one place to seek asylum who wanted to smuggle a bomb on the airplane. you have to look at everything, it could have been insurance things. it is important to get all types of background on all these people as possible. >> all information changing every single day. if we don't find this plane it will make the investigation almost impossible to determine where, if terrorism was
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involved. >> well, it's going to be one of those things that will be very, very difficult to prove. you might be able to hypothetically hypothetically proved. we may never know. >> your investigation of lockerbie, the physical evidence was incredibly important to figure out what may have happened there. now, the fact that we haven't heard any claims or any apparently credible claims from any terrorist group, what does that tell you? >> well, there were i think four or five claims about lockerbie 25 years ago. none of those were deemed to be credible. there was just one i think for this flight. that doesn't necessarily mean anything. some groups don't claim, if it was a government, and i rather doubt that it was, and i have no evidence to show that it was. i know intelligence agencies are
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scouring everything they have. to tell investigators to give happened. >> are you surprised so many years after 9/11 we still are seeing such lax security in other parts of the world? >> well, i've done a lot of international travel and i've been through security. and in certain parts of the second and third world, and it's not as good as i think we have here in the united states. but certainly only as good as the people who are working there there. and it's a very difficult situation, to say that well, something got through security. but it's tough to say. in malaysia, i'm told they actually have two levels. the first set of magnet o ometers , you get rescreened through the gate. >> thank you richard, for helping us figure out what might have happened here. >> thank you. >> barring a very big surprise,
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crimea will vote on sunday to decide whether to become part of russia. to convey kremlin to -- to persuade kremlin to change course. fears that were stoked by crimea's pro-moscow prime minister, to speak on following crimea's lead. >> if there are enough people in these regions to convince authorities that they have a right to hold a referendum, then perhaps other regions will reunite with russia, i can't say. >> nick schifrin is in ukraine. what is the. >> i think it's a huge amount of anxiety as that repression as you put it antonio, as the aggression by russian troops and their
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allies, russian activists or pro-russian activists or pro-russian militias, we've seen journalists kidnapped, pro-ukrainian activists attacked. the crimea tatars who are muslim, the largest minority on the peninsula, they fear that history will repeat itself. some 70 years ago they were deported en masse, 200,000 people. they returned in the early '90s. some of them are leaving out of fear that the russians will redeport them. whether or not that is actually going to come true, the fact is, there's a lot of fear on the streets for pro-ukrainians and on the other side, there is an excitement, that sunday is an independence day of sorts. they feel that in the 50s the soviet union gave away the ukraine, they can never wanted to be part of ukraine and they
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right a wrong and pull back into russian orbit. >> we hear that many are going back to ukraine as a result of this. what was the creaks to -- reaction to crimea's why decision to hold the referendums and switch ore to russian rule now it's considered crimea is already gone? >> i think it's the huge fear, not only here but also in washington. because let's look at the big picture here. crimea as we just talked about has never really been part of ukraine. has always wanted to look east, always wanted to be part of russia. eastern ukraine however, is a huge prize. if the kremlin can wrest some of that away from kiev. ukraine really a bridge between the west and the east. a lot of people are talking here about not only the statement
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by the crimean prime minister here about the east to hold their own frums referendums but the russian foreign ministry, they are not in control of the east. that is almost a invitation for the russian troops to do what they did in crimea, come into this area, that is a red line for washington, for the state department. obama and kerry have all but said, if russian troops come into eastern ukraine, that is a step they will not. >> receipt or click in eastern ukraine as well. >> that would be a frightening escalation, nick schifrin as always, good to have you on the show thank you. for more we're joined by ambassador wim courtney, in 1997
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he was can appointed to the national security council for senior director of russian and western ukraine affairs. good to see you. >> good to beings have see you antonio. >> it seems like a forgone conclusion that the referendum is going to go russia's way. what do you see happens to crimea on monday. >> the russian he are sure that the referendum is rigged whatever the vote. the russian parliament has already said that they will be receptive to the idea of crimea being annexed into russia. so i would suspect that russia will go ahead with that. the most important thing is not that russia annexes crimea katy, but that russian military occupy all of crimea. crimea is under military occupation. >> secretary kerry was blunt after his meeting with russian
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fortunate mints sergey lavrov. let's -- foreign minister sergey lavrov. >> until after the frum referendum on sunday. >> lavrov brushed off threats of counterproductive. do you think the u.s. and the west will get it together, to impose some sanctions that might actually affect russia? >> yes, i think the sanctions actually will be pretty significant. there's a lot of experience now with iran on sanctions. russia has always been reluctant for sanctions on iran by the international community. for fear that some day, russia would be targeted. and indeed now that's the circumstance for russia. the sanctions will be significant. if russia maintains its occupation in crimea. if as your correspondent said, the russians also go into eastern ukraine, and the
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russians are pos churd, they have -- postured, they have maybe 80,000 troops in eastern ukraine, the sanctions would be much stronger. and in addition to sanction he there will be military moves. there's already temporary military support. the u.s. has sent f-fannie fighters to the baltics -- f-15 fighters into the bal ticks, in poland and rowe plain yah, those are temporary -- romania. >> civil war in terms ever fighting. ukrainians will resist that, unlike the surprise attack in crimea. and nato and the u.s. are probably going to have to reorient their military posture eastward towards russia. >> in eastern ukraine there are reports that russians have been bussed into een ukrainian cities -- eastern ukrainian cities to agitate.
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this is no doubt the most dangerous time in the world since the end of the cold war. >> well, the fighting in yugoslavia was also a dangerous moment and of course the iraq and afghanistan wars were. but for european security. we haven't seen the kind of aggression that russia has carried out in another country since the end of the cold war. this is a big surprise. people thought that 22 years after russia became an independent country that russia would evolve in a more moderate direction but it's gone in reverse. >> a bipartisan delegation of senators led by john mccain are in ukraine now. mccain wrote putting the blame on putin. but what is most troubling about mr. putin's aggression in crimea, america's credibility in
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the world. he goes on to explain the reset was a bad idea a few years ago and completely trashes the weakness. how much of a wakeup call is this? >> the reset actually did accomplish some purposes with regard to for example facilitating the flow of supplies to nato forces in afergz on railways -- afghanistan on railways through russia. why space station in russian rocket from kazakhstan. there are some aspects that are important. what's different is russia is clearly an adversary as well. with regard to the weakness point it's going to be important now that the united states stop reducing its defense spending and start thinking about moving some army units, probably to poland would be a good place, a brigade combat team to poag
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poland. but that means tea party opponents, people on the left side of the liberal spectrum, both sides are going to have too take a hard look at the security situation that has changed for america. >> and we're already seeing complek consequence as world markets have gone down, the russian he themselves are having serious economic consequence is because of this. ambassador, great to have you. >> thank you antonio. crimean tatars were compiled from reclaim their land and homes from russia. that is sunday at 10:00 a.m. eastern on al jazeera america. coming up . whark is said about the american secretary of state and what
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comes next. idea of leslie be our social media producer, hermela aregawi, is tracking what's trending. >> sponsorship of the largest st. patrick's day parade, what's causing a stir. i'll tell you more. >> tell us on twitter @ajconsiderthis. or on our facebook and google >> twenty five years ago, pan am flight 103 exploded in the skys above lockerbie. only one man was convicted of the attack >> the major difficulty for the prosecution, that there was no evidence... >> now a three year al jazeera investigation, reveals a very different story about who was responsible >> they refuse to look into this... >> so many people at such a high level had a stake in al megrahi's guilt. lockerbie: what really happened?
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foreign minister, saying, secretary of state john kerry, we denounce you as a spoiler of the venezuelan people. marco rubio and conwom con congress wom ss woman ileana waitman. peter it is good to have you with us. before he was accused of being a murderer, secretary kerry encouraged dialogue, calling on the maduro government to treat them respectively and end this terror campaign against his own people.
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we are hearing, calling the u.s. the empire, blaming the lobby including the senator and the congresswoman and the ex isles i exiles invenezuela. >> i think that's where the initiative has to come from really. my own sense is this is likely to deteriorate in the short run in part because there's two crises going on. one is the deep seated political crisis you're talking about, the other is a very bad deteriorating economic crisis. >> now, what should the u.s. do? should they impose some sorts of sanctions? >> i think that the u.s. really
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has to work with and through the latin american neighbors of venezuela. the u.s. directly is not going to have much influence in venezuela. unfortunately. i don't disagree with the way secretary of state kerry describes the situation in venezuela. but the fact is, words from washington just won't have very much influence. and in fact, they may make things worse. >> even if they stop some of the government people from being able to come to the u.s. and freeze accounts and things like that? >> that's not going to have much of an impact at all. the real impact is only going to come when venezuela's neighbors realize that this turmoil really affects every country in latin america. cast a restain on the region as a whole and they really have to work together to solve this problem and stop hiding behind
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sovereignty, and really get into it. but the u.s. has to find the working relationship with brazil and with chile and columbia and others, to -- colombia to work with them. and by coming out strongly kerry makes his point. it's a good point. but you don't want to make points here. you want to make peace. and i'm afraid that the u.s. just doesn't have the influence to do that. >> but he also somewhat agrees with you. he says that the organization of american states as well as allies and neighbors need to demand accountability from the maduro government. and you were in chile recently where the ministers from theunasur group agreed to send are delegates, didn't even mention the ongoing situation in credit credit venezuela. is it reasonable that they will
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accomplish something? >> no, i don't think that -- that was a very weak performance by the foreign minister of latin america, south america really. they didn't put any teeth in what they were going to do. they didn't come with an unbiased screw. clearly there is a level had of support for the -- level of support for maduro government more than it deserves. brazil is the big country that seeks a global role and if it wants to be an actor on a large stage it really has to sort of perform much better than it has so far. >> now you've written that a schism could develop within the maduro supporters? >> oh i think that's basically one of two outcomes that i now see in the short run at least. the long run becomes more difficult. i think one is that maduro really does pull out the troops and begin to impose a level of
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repression that rivals something like that in egypt or worse, and really brings the opposition to a halt. or, in fact, i think the other outcome is that some of his colleagues in the chavezta movement which is divided in many parts, will come together and say he's the wrong leader, he's not the right person for had situation and try to replace him with someone who either will be tougher and crack down, or someone who can lead a real dialogue with the opposition. >> by all accounts things are getting scarier throughout the country. so let's hope some solution is found soon. peter hakem. appreciate you joining us. >> thank you very much. >> will the conflict between federal and state marijuana laws
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soon be coming the a head, half of the states in the country allowing some form of marijuana use. federal laws still bans the cultivation and sale of marijuana for any reason. the federal government, cracking cracking down on marijuana in the states that allow it. but aside from state and federal laws how is legalization working out in colorado? dennis hespene has filed numerous articles on the emerging colorado cannabis industry. , as i said, the house passed a can bill, but over a thousand people standing in line in colorado to get a marijuana -- this is a marijuana job fair and more than a dozen companies were looking to hire for the pot industry. everything from bud-tenders to accountants. now, the industry is only in its infancy but what are you seeing?
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is it growing by leaps and bounds? >> thanks for having me antonio. the industry is growing pretty can largely on the recreational side. just reported the january sales and sales tax to the colorado department of revenue. at the end of january there were 59 stores opened. they reported they sent $2 million of sales tax to the state on $14 million of sales. that's just the retail side. there's still medical marijuana also which had about $30 million in sales. with the rate at which cities are allowing the stores to open and with the number of stores that are trying to open, i anticipate that the growth is going to continue at a pretty rapid pace throughout rest of the year. >> talking about maybe anywhere from 70 to $100 million in tax revenue? >> yes, exactly. that's what they're looking at
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for the estimates. which could -- the guesses are anywhere from 600 million to $1 billion in sales, just on -- well, for both, the retail and the medical side. >> now i know there were concerns about some of the costs that may come with marijuana legalization. the department of transportation released some funny ads, driving while high. let's take a look at one. [ knocking, tapping ] >> now, surprised that after all the publicity that colorado's legalization of marijuana, the state still has to raise the awareness that driving while high is illegal. >> i think the state went about this in a pretty clever way. i mean they could have done the
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traditional having a stern-looking cop on there saying, you're not going to drive high or you'll be busted for d.u.i., i think they did a rather clever way to get people's attention to make them laugh but still remind them that driving high is illegal. so far, the state has established that if you're pulled over and an officer suspects you're high, five nanograms injure system, the officer can arrest you for being high. >> there's some disagreement how they can determine had a but the ads are very effective. we have heard of some incidents, is high driving becoming a problem for colorado? >> well, with only one month into the retail -- consume, two months into the retail sales now it's a little early to tell whether them completely legalizing it for adults 21 years or older is going to cause
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a rash of stoned driving. it doesn't appear at this early stage that it's become a huge problem. certainly there are many d.u.i.s than there are driving under the influence of marijuana at this point. >> two states have fully legalized, 18 states allow medicinal use, and there are bills out there to decriminalize or legalize medicinal use in many other states. based on what you've seen in colorado do you think these moves by the federal government by the house of representatives, by the fbi deciding not to do background checks in washington state, do you think that's going to slow the momentum of what's going on? >> first of all, the department of revenue does their own background checks. for anyone who works in a marijuana facility, owns a marijuana facility or operates one, they have to pass pretty rigorous background checks, as
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far as the colorado department of investigation have done a lot of those checks. i'm not sure if the federal authorities doing checks will impact the industry that much. but what we're seeing here is a very interesting dichotomy. it is almost an issue of state's rights. the state of colorado as its voters have said, we think this should be a legal product for adults and we think we would like to tax it and regulate it like alcohol. i think a lot of states are going to be watching colorado very carefully and if it proves to be a successful regulation model and generates a lot of tax revenue, that we'll almost certainly see other states start moving down this path. >> we will stay on this story. dennis, thank you for joining us. time to check on what's trending. hermella. >> pulling sponsorship from boston's st. patrick's day parade.
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reportedly because organizers prevented lgbt veterans from carrying their are banner in the event. no longer sell sam adams beer because of its connection to the event. in a statement on their website the council said, "we are approached by all types of groups some of which try to destroy the integrity of not only this parade but our faith, this town, and our country." this certainly isn't a new issue. in 1995 a supreme court decision ruled that the council could include or seclude groups at their discretion. we asked you to share your thoughts and greg says thank you sam adams from doing massachusetts proud. greg doesn't see it that way. it's a parade. why should it be about anyone's credit sexuality?
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the greatest threats to american security is the, manaugustine, retired chairman and kerry of, former acting secretary of the army. norm it's great to have you with us. before we get to education, you wrote an opinion piece with secretary gary hart, that, afterwards only adopted one, the department of homeland security. is congressional dysfunction undermining national security? >> yes, i would have to say it is. the study you referred to known as the hart rudman study, was put together by a commission that spanned, 50 representations as you say before 9/11 we said
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americans were likely to die by the thousands on american soil due to terrorist actions and we said we thought what ought to be done. and it was not until right after 9/11 that even establishing the homeland security department was considered. gary hart in my view, among many others that we are endanger our national security. >> over the past week we have seen this war break out between the cia and the senate with charges of each spying on the other. you and senator hart wrote about the 108 congressional committees and subcommittees that have oversight over national security. with that kind of system of oversight, it's difficult for anyone to believe that anything can get done. >> it's very hard. and i -- in the recent years have spent my life in the corporate world and no corporation can survive with that type of management or leadership. we can't have 108 different committees overseeing the homeland security department which is what we have. >> do you think there's any will
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to change that? >> not today. no, i really don't. i'm very much afraid it will take a catastrophe before we really do anything. can and my hope is, it's a survivable catastrophe. >> it's terrible to think of that as a possibility. let's turn to education because you do think it's very important when it comes to national security. you bring up some loorming statistics. you're writing a -- alarming statistics. you mentioned a couple of things that really stood out. just how far down the line the united states is when compared to other developed nations. and also you bring up that more than 70% of young americans may be ineligible for military service because of mental physical or emotional shortcomings. how did we get here? >> it's taken a long time, decades of deterioration.
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there are are a number of things that get into national security and the national education connection. most americans are not eligible to serve in our military for the reasons cited. another factor is that modern militaries depend a great deal on technology. and americans are not producing scientists and engineers at countries. in fact there was a recent study of 90 countries, the u.s. ranked 79 out of 93. the countries behind us were generally third world countries that the world hadn't heard of. underpinning an economy, you can't have a strong military without a strong economy. russia proved that not too long ago. >> you also point out that 70% of our engineers in this country these days are the ones that are
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graduating from college are foreign-born. what do we have to do to get more engineers and more scientists? you also bring up the fact that in other parts of the world it's considered cool, a smart thing to do to be an engineer or scientist. here we tend to look at them as nerds and geeks. >> scientists take pride calling themselves geeks, you don't talk about them as being a hero or heroine, they are usually a villain. all of us have the pockets full of products from scientists and engineers. one of the favorite callings of young people. i think there are two solution he. one solution is to encourage more young people who want to study science and engineering to come to this country and stay here. that's what's kept our science system working in recent decades.
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the other is to encourage more americans to take science and engineering. and what that takes is first rate teachers of science and technology and particularly in k-12 schools, kindergarten to 12th grade. >> is the problem more at that level as opposed to colleges, where still, according to the times of london, we still have the overwhelming majority of best universities in the world. >> it is true, we have the overwhelming majority of the best universities of the world. that's in danger, i might point out for many reasons. it's about fourth great believe it or not when the father tells the daughter, the girls don't do math or when a teacher isn't qualified to teach math and science and the student says, why is this important, the teacher says, i don't know but we have to do it. what we have is teachers who have degrees in math and science, in k-12, paid respectfully, why advanced
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respectably and i think we'll turn this around. >> the american generation is less educated than their parents, parents believe their kids will have a lower standard of living. you talk about american exceptionalism, that greatness isn't something we should take for granted. greatness have to be earned by every single generation. >> how so. >> last question i have how significant is it for di , how concerned are you? >> the strength of the community depends on the strength of the workforce for people to have good jobs. americans enjoy a gdp six times the rest of the world. you don't get there by being below average. today we are we below average in every test of which i'm aware. i am concerned. i think we know many of the
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an independent investigation found that miami dolphin jonathan martin was harassed by teammates, led by rght. so far that martin left the team. he was traded to san francisco 49ers. it could mean a world for those battling can are mental illness. old coach jim harbaugh, bullying issues should be behind him. why do you think this is a deeper meaning for those who are battling mental illness? >> you would rather admit to missing a limb than to seeing a psychiatrist or dealing with any sort of mental illness whatsoever. to see a psychiatrist and having issues with mental health, was connoted as weakness. what
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former baltimore colt manager, somehow you're not worthy of being in the nfl. my big fear when the ted wells report,ed the , ted wells, that it released very sensitive information about jonathan martin about suffering from can depression and doing harm from himself. my great fear would be that that would make him unacceptable in nfl locker rooms. a lot of nfl players deal with a lot of issues, as we know just from the fact that so many self-medicate, drugs, alcohol and all the rest of it and the idea that they can deal with mental health issues may only be positive for players in the locker room. >> you and others were upset by the fact that he was written off
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by individuals around nfl as a distraction. what does that say about the mentality of the nfl? >> it's still there. what the 49ers did, was not ordinary but extraordinary. executives on and off the record, said they would rather have a player like rght than a player like jonathan martin. after rgs richie incog neat owe, this is clearly someone with issues, good that he's could be fronting them. it will be another step for the nfl, maybe the problem with him, maybe the reason he was so awful in this locker room is he had real are issues, deeg with them and so many of us deserve a second chance.
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>> to prefer the bully to the bullied, is remarkable. martin going to the 49ers, the dolphins ended up trading him for a song. it doesn't seem like much has changed. >> the thing for the dolphins is they need to clean house, if they go 2 and 14, 1 and 15, still boggles my mind, they let everybody go except head coach joe philbin, on a very short leash going forward. i am thinking a lot about michael sam, the first gay player in the national football league, at sam's first press conference, he spoke about i'm just here to play football, i'm just here to kick butt, the reception he got at a missouri game, i was going to cry but then again i play football.
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people cheered him in the nfl. it's so interesting to me, okay if it's easier to be gay if you are going to act in a familiar way, inside that crying box, i don't cry, is it easier to be gay than admit to being weak, admit to needing help? let's face its, if you look at the divorce rate statistics of nfl players, you look at the number of nfl players who end up broke, you look at the number of nfl players who end up broken. over the issues that the nfl players are not dealing with as a result of a highly pressurized highly volatile sport. >> barry bonds was convicted three years ago, obstruction of justice for deliberately misleading investigators. some people are furious he's back. he was one of the greatest players in baseball before he
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was tainted by stroind of steroids. shouldn't he get a second chance? >> absolutely he should be granted a second chance. mark mcguire was given a be. >> on the other hand, dave, mcguire acknowledged and apologized for using steroids. bonds did not do that. it has not been proven that he used steroids. people are wondering why he's happy go lucky and never acknowledged. >> i.t. feels really good to be back, it feels good to participate in this. it feels good to get back to the game that i love. >> (inaudible). >> without a doubt. >> given all the controversy that surrounded him. given fact he's known as one of the least likable in basketball,
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why would the giants bring him back in any role? >> it's a good question. barry bonds was disliked in major league baseball, everywhere bus san francisco. he signed contracts at the height of financial powers, to stay in san francisco. he wanted to stay on the team that his father bobby bonds played for and his grandfather, willie plays, played for. -- willie mays, played for. it was not about barry bonds, it was not like a custom guys who bulked up and hit a ton of runs. it was about ownership, it was about management, it was about big business, it bass about getting billions of dollars for new stadiums and tv ratings. let's put the entire weight of this era on one person's
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shoulders or two or three people's shoulders. beash barr -- barry bonds coming back, eric chavez, he was asked, is he glad barry bonds is coming back? he said absolutely. it's about the steroid industry and everything, you could hear a pin drop, the better that is said because barry bonds is back, the better the game. >> okay. thanks the show may be over but the conversation continues. you can also find >> these protestors have decided that today they will be arrested >> these people have chased a president from power, they've torn down a state... >> what's clear is that people don't just need protection,
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