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training. congress will review the recommendations. those are the headlines for this hour. see you back here at 11 eastern. coming up, lights out. it's called one of the scariest short films ever. "consider this" with antonio mora is next. >> the death toll climbs in a grim day for rescuers in washington state's massive mud slide. how many are missing. also an attempted congress to force action on immigration as a cpo report says reform will save the country hundreds of billions. plus, more than 500 people sentenced to death as egypt's military leader resigns to run for president. >> will high schoolers be better students and healthier in the
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day started later. hello, i'm antonio mora, welcome to "consider this". here is more on what is ahead. >> it's a rescue and a recovery operation. >> time is not on anyone's side as we are into day five of the search. >> that was not going to listen to anybody tell me i couldn't find my sister. >> it is humbling and we are good at this. >> military chief and self-defence minister abdul fatah al-sisi announced his bid for the presidency. >> on monday a court in egypt sentenced 529 mohamed morsi supporters to death. >> the time has come to pass immigration reform. we ask and demand the speaker to bring it to the floor. >> the white house is giving more time to sign up for the affordable care act. >> people need a little extra time. another deadline made meaningless. >> what is this, a joke. >> we begin with a devastating
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day for residents of oso washington where rescuers are victims of the mud slide. they are finding no signs of life. the death toll from the disaster stands at 16. it is expected to rise. the 176 people missing has whittled down 90. national guard and black hawk helicopters asked to assist in recovering body, and cadd afer togs and rescuers used bulldozers and their hands to cut through the debris. the weight of destruction, loss, gratitude for help overwhelmed the emergency management chief, john pennington. >> we are humbled beyond belief in this county. we have received - it is... this is very hum bling. it is very hum bling and we are
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respectfully very grateful. >> early hopeful signs like the dramatic rescue of jacob spilers have faded. this is the rescue that was released today. he was airlifted from his home, but his father and three siblings at home watching tv in the ground floor are among the missing. >> al jazeera's seattle bureau correspondent allen schauffler joins us. it's good to see you. it's awful. the story gets worse. it's weighing on all the people who are trying their hardest to see what can be done. the death toll is at 16, but will go up on thursday, when bodies are identified. >> absolutely, they are not listing people as diseased until they've been removed from the scene and processed and identified by the medical examiner.
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we know the number is going to go up. we understand after the workout at the site by more than one. my tomorrow we are looking at 25 officially diseased. the other number is stunning. 90 people they say are missing, not accounted for. it's not 170 or so reports of missing people, but they are saying 90 people missing. even more of those they are calling unquestionable status. the final numbers, price, human price that nature commackted is extraordinary and could push 100. >> we are talking about 90 - that list has been dropping. there's 35 others that have questionable status, and a status unknown. >> yes, not sure what they are
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characterising when they say that. there's something between here is a person missing and one that has been eliminated. there's a team of detectives that are accustomed to working on missing person cases, working on identifying and locating and finding out where and when the people were on the bigger list. that's the way they characterise it. take 90 as a solid number, and the additional as we are not sure. >> scary to think that many people could have died on that day. >> you were there with local firefighters, a husband and a wife searching since saturday. they were trying to be strong. you could see the emotional toll on them and everyone else. >> absolutely right. this is the first break that they have had since saturday. they were told by the bosses - take the day off, relax. they had been out digging in the
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piles. they had friends that they lost, and hard moments. we have some sound from when they spoke to us this afternoon, telling you what has been keeping them going. >> rescue mode on sunday and monday. that's what drives us, is if there's a slight possibility of someone being alive, it may be crazy to people, but if we could find a viable person, i mean there's a dog that came out sunday afternoon. it was wonderful. there's a life, a dog can live, a human can live. if we find someone missing and they may be deceased, which is horrible, we can bring closure to a family. that's why we dig.
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>> it's difficult for them personally. they are in a position - sorry, antonio mora - where victory for them, success for them is finding a body, and in their case it may be the body of someone they worked with on fires or the children of someone they know. it's a tough go for them. >> fema, and the national guard are there to help. how dangerous is it to the rescuers, is there a risk that there could be more slides. >> there's still a risk of more slides, more rain last night and tonight, and more to come. there'll be a risk of more slides at the site. this is still a dangerous debris field. there's 30 or 40 structures broken up and splintered. there's prop an tanks, septic fields, cars damaged, gasoline cans, shattered trees.
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quick sand. it's a mess. one of the things very have done is limiting the work at night. they tell us that they are going to do a road clearing and repairs. they won't have anyone searching the debris during the evening or obvious night hours, they'll start at first light. >> allen schauffler, thank you for the update. >> joining us on the phone from derrington is sherry brewer who has been volunteering her time and hlogging equipment, along with her family. i'm sorry, because i know you have lost friends in this tragedy, what has this family experienced helping in the rescue efforts. ? >> it's been difficult. when you get there and you see the dynamics and the big trees mixeded together, we had one closure today, a close friend we
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had i got word from the site, from my family that they found my friend today. if you can imagine mt st. helen's, or the hope slide, and you imagine the cars that you find are mangled or in eight pieces or we found a suburban on sunday we thought was our friends car, when they got in there, it was rolled in a ball, about the side. the trees are big, that came down off the hill. we are talking to two or three foot logs broke up, and my husband told me that they were pulling - you know, big trees out. he said that it might look solid, but they are broken out, you think it will hang in and the top breaks off as you swing around. it's slow and tedious process
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and when you find the bodies, you put it in a compartment and go on last night, after the fourth day that we've been there from dawn to dark, that all of us got five hours sleep last night, and we are thankful for that, but they were back out this morning, leaving at 6am, and they are on the job site now. >> i know you were out there on sunday. there has been reports that there was frustrations with a relief effort, when they didn't move quickly enough. is that what you saw? >> the frustration is where the bureaucracy and having to - the safety and following chain of command and all of that. the ones out there and stayed there until dark on saturday and sunday, whereas the local
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contractors - we are not allowed out there, the local neighbours, with chainsaws and that, we brought our atvs town and furnished gas, and shuttled people to the site and back and fourth. it is frustrating because when you deal with government they have to follow the rules. >> a final question for you what is the danger as you see it, mudslides. you said you have been watching the slide for three weeks. you had seen some movement before this all happened? >> we were seeing it. it was growing wider. we had slides before that blocked the river, never in a million years did we ever imagine the dynamics and the power when that slide came down, and it was over in 40 seconds, and when we went out there on
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the saturday afternoon, and we were on the high side, and - we knew the river was 75 feet down below, and it was flat from that high side. clear across the valley floor, and the awesome, and the debris piled up on the south side. we are 15 feet high and mangled trees and mud. you think mt st. helen, that's what it looks like. >> mother nature. switching topics now to the immigration debate and an effort by house democrats to force a vote on their own comprehensive immigration bill. they have introduced the discharge petition that could force the vote if 218
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congressman sign the petition. given there is only 119, it's not likely. we heard democratic congressman call on the speaker of the house to take action. >> we need speaker john boehner to put this to a vote on the floor. we have the votes. we have the law. in my years of working around the hill, i have never seen a bill that had such cross support from the chamber of commerce to unions across the spectrum. >> i'm joined from washington by congressman krayat from texas. why go for the discharge petition. house republicans are facing primaries and in those primaries a vote in favour of a democratic immigration bill could hurt their careers. why not wait until later?
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>> it won't hurt their careers, ones wanting to vote no can vote no. it's a simply proposition. they can vote yes or no. every two years i run, like others, where people say yes or no on us. but the people have a right to vote. this is not a republican congress, it's the u.s. the u.s. house of representatives, we put it for a vote, ones that want to support can vote yes. the ones that want to walk away and not vote can do that. at least put it up for a vote. that's what we are asking. they can ask no because of primary or skews. >> how much of this is politics, to show your constituents that you are committed to immigration reform, and putting republicans between a rock and a hard place. >> procedures, rules of the house call us to try to bring it
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up. it's been used by democrats, republicans. it's a procedural vote. we can show we were doing everything we can to put it to a vote. quite honestly, it would be difficult. there's 199, 200 democrats. we need 218, any republican that dares to support this will be told by the office or leadership not do it. it will be hard. some time, after the election, the way it looks now, we are hoping they'll put it up for a vote. they can vote no or put it up for a vote. >> do you think all 999 democrats will support it? >> i think it will be less. i hope it's 199 democrats will vote yes on it, support it.
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again, it's like we saw last time. the last time we of immigration reform. it was a bipartisan vote. in 1986 a republican president, a democratic congress voted yes and got a compromise all we are trying to do is put it for a vote. if we can make changes, add amendments, find a compromise to find a reasonable, rational common sense immigration reform. it won't go away, guys, it's not going to go away. >> would you be okay with the piecemeal approach that some want, instead of a comprehensive bill? >> of course. in fact, i think i was the first democrat that said i would be willing as a compromise to look at leaguisation. i support a path way to
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citizenship. i brought it up to republicans saying "if you are afraid of a pathway to citizenship, why not do a legalization." if you look at the people, they are here. not everyone wants to become a u.s. citizens. >> on the other hand nancy pelosi, the head of the departments in the house said that there either is a special path to citizenship or nothing. >> again, she has to do that. she's our leader. i have to do what i think is right for my district. it's highly hispanic. i talked to a lot of folks. some are willing to accept the legalizati legalization. it will be a compromise, it won't be 100%, it will be right wing the way some want it. it's o compromise like the u.s. constitution. it was built on compromise, and
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i'm willing to come up with a sensible compromise. we heard the congressman say there was broad support for immigration reform. when roll call polled and it was asked whether principles were agreed, 19 republicans gave a firm yes. if they can't for their leaders, what is the chance of them supporting something that democrats put out? >> i tell you something else. i saw the roll call. some of the rub cans say they'll wait until the last minute. some are willing to wait until the last minute and vote on it, and take the vote at that time. i think it's a little lower than 19, i think it's a little lower,
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i emphasise, we will not know where we are, until we get a chance to vote on it - up or down, but take a vote much anyone that wants to vote no, you can do that. at least give us an opportunity to vote. >> a few months ago the thought was a lot of republicans in the house would support something. things have changed. i want to bring up a couple of developments. paul ryan, a top republican told the u.s. hispanic chamber of commerce that it's not a question of if we fix our br bren -- broken immigration laws, it's a question of when. it was said that it will cut $900 million off the deficit. when you have support from paul ryan, and all this money that
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the congressional budget office says you'll save if you pass immigration reform, i have to ask - are supporters of reform not doing a good job of selling the bill? >> no, the supporters are doing everything they can. so many republican witnesses have a small hispanic population. they don't feel the support from the constituent. paul ryan, he gets it. he really does. the c.b.o. said that this will help to reduce our deficit and grow the economy. we'll get it done. ryan might want to do it, paul might want to do it. if the republican leadership don't put it, we'll never know when we'll be able to deal with
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it. he's right. we'll get to it, but we need the vote. >> it's a pleasure to have you with us and talk about this issue. thank you. >> a programming note. al jazeera america will debut a series: six americans will follow the footsteps of six dead migrants. it debuts sunday april 13th at 9:00 pm eastern here in al jazeera america. >> changes in egypt. the country sentences hundreds of people to death as the top military stands down to run for president. what's trending on the internet >> top schools and america not trending where you'd guess. >>
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the military leader who led the effort to overthrow mohamed morsi announced plans to run for mohamed morsi's old job. defence minister field marshall abdul fatah al-sisi went on state-run tv to tell egyptians he'd run for the presidency. one person was killed when student protesters marched in cairo and other cities, against the court ruling seeing 479 sentenced to death for a police officer's movement. it has been condemned - the biggest mass death sentence in history. >> implementation of verdict imposition the death penalty would be unconsonable. i'm joined by a former state
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department analyst and senate foreign relations committee member. abdul fatah al-sisi is popular in egypt, becoming almost a cult figure among egyptians since deposing mohamed morsi, because they want a strong leader. talking about instability, egypt's economy is a basket case, protests continued. terror attacks have been faced. why is he popular? >> it's challenging for the next president of egypt. the last three years have been disturbing to most egyptians. they had great hopes, it's not lived up to that. now they realise that stability must come first, before the economy can improve. >> so far one other candidate, a leftist named hunden badi
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announced he is running. it seems others are intimidated by the control the military has over everything. is there doubt that if abdul fatah al-sisi runs, he will win. >> if they are not intimidated by his control, they are intimidated by his popularity. that surprised everybody, how many turned on him. maybe many who voted for mohamed morsi before, right now abdul fatah al-sisi appears to be the purpose that most want to be president. >> he's an interesting character. a devote muslim and the liaison between the military and mohamed morsi. >> he works and when he was head of military, it is filled with men who consider themselves good muslims, and the difference is not over whether you are a good muslim, but the type of islam you are promoting.
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>> people insist that his removal was not a coup. the u.s. refused to use that term. a leading general, a rival gave an interview where he said if an officer was to be president, the take over was a coup. is it time for the u.s. to admit that's what happened. >> i think the problem for us is multifaceted. the majority of egyptians do not see it as a coup. 30 million went to the street. it's not a coup when 30 million act. the united states has a lot of equities. there's no better that than today to know about it, it is the 35th anniversary of the signing between is ray and u.s. on the white house lawn. means a lot. >> until mohamed morsi, we have
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seen over the past 60 years, we had nasr, sadat and others rising to power. if abdul fatah al-sisi runs for president, are we back to politics as usual in egypt, is abdul fatah al-sisi a new version of hosni mubarak. >> no, he's a different person. i don't think egypt will be the same ever again after 20 is -- 2011. when mohamed morsi won, they turned the power over to mohamed morsi, and didn't fight him on that. what happened was the mohamed morsi government did not implement good policies, and alienated a large section of the population and the military responded to that. >> the trial, 429 people sentenced to death for the death of one policeman.
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how can anyone accept that as justice, when the hearings took two hours. >> two days. any of us in the west don't fully support the type of justice system that occurred. we would not have a trial with 529 people, of whom 400 were not there. that would never happen in the west. the reason the death sentences were handed down is if you are tried and not there and found guilty, the maximum sentence has to be imposed. i don't believe anybody, or few believe that the executions will take place. there's a long system through the court system through the court system. i don't believe it will happen. >> it seems people think the verdict will be overturned.
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a lot of people in egypt. dr graham benerman appreciate you joining us. >> turning to venezuela, where president nicolas maduro is using every branch of his government to crackdown on the potential. the supreme court wednesday sentenced the mayor, the si where the protest began to a year in gaol for failing to remove barricades put up by activists. he went on television to announce the arrest of three generals he said were plotting a coup, and that was followed by a vow of support for the president by the military. and a seat and immunity from prosecution occurred to an opposition. the person was blunt about what she was up against. >> can you fight this measure from within the congress itself?
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>> it's important to understand what is going on in venezuela. there's no independence of power whatsoever. no respect for the rule of law. there's barely no freedom of speech. >> joining us now from san diego california is ambassador charles chapero serving as ambassador for venezuela in 2002 to 2004. good of you to join us. you wrote since chavez took over he blamed the u.s. for working against it. nicolas maduro says the u.s. is behind the protests. jay carney, the press secretary emphasised that the future is for the venezuelan people to decide. the question is what will the crack down do to the venezuelan's people ability to decide anything.
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>> the cards are stacked against them. the military has its hands on all departments. last fall a woman had her nose broken. the government has the power of the state to use against the opposition. then have a tough situation. >> you talk about the freedom of speech and the government contr controlling every branch of the government and the military, and all the television stations too. >> not only that, the president of the national assembly brought a case against an independent newspaper for aggravated gam
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ha defamation, and wants some stripped of parliamentary immunity, and bring charges of treason. it's dire. >> the criminal charges against a newspaper, one of the people accused is one of the traditional socialist leaders in venezuelan, who turned against nicolas maduro and chavez. >> he's within against them since the beginning. he was a guerilla leader in the '60s. and is the editor of an independent newspaper. >> that's not saying much, because they are limited in how much they feel they can do. the two major newspapers are covering and putting out some news about the protests. >> no, they do a good job. i look at the website every day. there's radio stations reporting
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freely. it's tough. reporters are attacked by government supporters and have been and have been since the early 2000s, and are excluded from government press conferences. >> machalo is in danger of being arrested. she's allied with leopoldo lopez. he wrote an op-ed saying: >> as we saw last week the organization of american states and washington tried not to allow her to speak to them. once she did, it was in a closed session, her words not recorded. why the silence from lern leaders. >> leopoldo lopez's letter from prison is eloquent. the irony that passed by latin
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american leaders, that countries that had dictators, countries who were, during dictatorship. the people in government fled to venezuela. now we really have no interest in taking a more active role in venezuela. the o as operates on a basis of convention. the union of south american nations - i suspect they are gone - they had a delegation of foreign ministers and caracas yesterday and today. they are perceived by the opposition as there to support nicolas maduro and its government. >> as leopoldo lopez mentioned about the human rights organizations they said about 60 people have been tortured.
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it was tweeted monday night saying: >> what do you know about the involvement of cuba and venezuela, given the time you spent down there. >> it's not knew. people are talking about it today. venezuela sends oil to cuba, keeping the cuban economy afloat. cuba pays for the oil. it's somewhere between 930,000-95,000 barrels a day, some that doesn't go to cuba, but they resell it. cuba pays for the oil by sending medical personnel, drs, department ests, lab technicians, sports trainers, political advisors, and presumably intelligence advisors
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to cuba. to venezuela. there's a load of cubans in venezuela. they have been there since the early 2000s, and continue to be there. a retired diplomat was scratching his head and complaying they have political advisors, but the governors do not pay attention. >> the revolutionary rhetoric sounds like something out of the castro brothers play book. good to have you with us. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, it's a pleasure being on "consider this". >> time to see what is trending on al jazeera's website. >> a new report says the most segregated public schools are the most racially diverse parts of the united states. the university of california says new york schools are severely segregated. in many, less than 10% of the students were white.
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the authors wrote: >> charter schools are less diverse, and the majority, less than 1% were white. james merriman c.e.o. of the charter school centres say: >> it can be helped by policies intending to promote diversity. >> according to the study. new york is not alone. illinois, california, michigan
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are highly segregated. >> straight ahead, what does the latest delay in obamacare mean. >> the split of kris martin and g winneth palt roe shine -- gwyneth paltrow shine light on divorce.
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>> if you didn't complete your enrolment for obamacare by next monday, you were supposed to pay tax penalties. the white house did just that. now, if you say you had issues signing up or come under a bunch of exemptions, you likely have two weeks to enrol.
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of course, washington split along party lines. >> if he hasn't put enough loopholes into the law, they are restarting to an honour system to enforce it. what the hell is this. a joke. >> the joke is him. kag more than -- having more than 60 votes. it's extremely disingenuous, that they oppose anything that is good about obamacare. what does this mean for americans and health care. the vice president for medical centres and affiliates, and the host of "health care connects", on radio. let's separate the reality and the rhetoric. the reality is that if you haven't signed up, you have a reprieve. >> if you signed up and had a problem, you got a reprieve.
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if you didn't sign up and made no attempt to sign up and haven't got a reprieve, and you haven't attempted, and there are ways to check this. a lot of people are waiting for pending applications, applications that are lost. >> pretty much if you've gone online and made an attempt, you'll get two weeks. john boehner is right in that it's an honour system, you don't have to try hard, and you'll get two weeks. >> people are waiting for confirmation that the enrolment was processed and was turned off by trying to get on and stuck. there is confusion about what subsidies people get, and there's problems with a website. it's better, but not perfect, this is intended to give two weeks. the deadline is not here. the two weeks won't make much of a difference. >> you work in hospital administration. there has been delays after
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delays in the implementation of this law. what has it meant on your end. >> as a provider organization, we have been ready for a long time. we are talking about the insurance provision of the law, not payments, but people accessing the system. n.y.u., like other hospitals - we take plans, we don't. many of the exchange-base perhaps have high dedoubtibility, we have to spend time counselling patients. they had fees they didn't have, deductibles that they didn't have to pay. people have lost their doctor, it's not part of the network, they have to find a new doctor, even though they are within the same health care. >> the real politics, average of polling on health care found 53% of men's were still opposing
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plans fewer than 40% are supporting it. on the health care side have all the delays and everything changed the attitude from the hospital, and the doctors? >> i think hospital administrators, doctors, heath care dividers are split, like americans are split. i think what the rest of the country is seeing, health care providers, i will tell you people have frustrated by this. even if you weren't 100% behind it, you were prepared for it, and the delays and the roll out caused frustration with a lot of people that believed in the law. >> the confusion is crazy. the keiser foundation said 60% did not know about the deadline and half had no plans to sign up. as we near the end, where do we stand. are most of the people, too many
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of the people i should say, the tick and the elderly, and not enough of the young people, will that lead to higher premiums. it's astonishing what is in this law and what it's all about, what is good about it and what is not. there's a lot of people. the numbers are 5 million. they'll go up significantly, there's a lot of people who have health insurance that didn't have it. there are good things that happen. in the beginning there were more elderly americans signing up, and those are people likely to get sick sooner or sicker americans signing up, or people that couldn't get it. if they don't get more of the numbers in there, premiums will sky rocket. i think i suspect there has been a push the past few days in getting younger americans to sign up. i wouldn't be surprised. that being said, when we went
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into this, there's 39 unemployed americans. there's a long way to go. >> thank you for trying to clarify this. >> coming up, does a later start time for high school students hurt progress in other areas. first, blogs around the world are obsessing over gwyneth paltrow's split from cold play's chris martin. we are taking a look at the numbers in divorce, and do half of all marriages really end that way? data dive is
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>> today's data dive examines
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divorce. superstars gwyneth paltrow and chris martin announced their split after more tan a decade of marriage. the k the oscar winner and cold play called the split a conscious uncoupling. a survey found couples find they thought about splitting up two years before actually doing it. those polled say they spent most of that time trying to fix their marriage. even though one out of four did not try to make things work, more than half felt it was amicable. when thinking about getting divorce half talked with other than their spouse. that poor communication was a big reason for splits. infidelity came in first among the top 10 causes. second they were unhappy. the rest feature variations on
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growing apart and money problems. good news is 50% of american marriages ending in divorce is an exaggeration. various researches concluded that it's based on faulty maths. the number of annual divorces dropped by 70,000 between 2000 and 2011. that's about 7% fewer divorces every year. it's good to see a positive among the negatives. >> coming up a sleep survey says kids do better if schools start later. is it all good?
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>> should schools let kids sleep in for better grades and better health? new research from the university of minnesota found high schools with late are start times have happier and better students. the lead researcher examined the impact of a later study time. she's a former school administrator and principal. good of you to join us. you looked at 9,000 students. in schools that had changed their start times to a later time. you found all sorts of benefits. >> that's true, what we found was remarkable. we looked at academic
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performance, and the findings were such that they improved grades. in the first and third hour of classes that would be english, matteds, social studies and science, and they did better on standardized tests, the a.c.t., and we found improved attendance and decreased tardiness. >> and you found health benefit. > right. that was important because it was funded by the center for diseases, control. they were curious about the health benefit. we found less depression, significantly less drugs, cigarette and alcohol use for any students getting eight or more horse of sleep. and the remarkable finding, new information that we hadn't had before. the car crashes in two of the
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five districts had reductions of 65 to 70% reductions in crashes during the school year by high school aged drivers. >> it was a dramatic conditions. >> it is. >> and you found a third of teens get eight horse of sleep. by moving the start time, you doubled that, and the problem is we know that biologically teens are incliped to go to sleep later. >> it's interesting. the medical research has been done in late 1990s. teenagers reseal different sleep wake tik -- vibing cycles to adults. studies have been done in asia,
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the middle east and south america. every human teenager has the shift where they are not able to fall asleep, when melaton ark n is secreted. the region is strong, very strong, until eight in the morning. it's this 11:00 pm to 8am sleep phase that teenagers experience. when the schools start, that is really interrupting their sleep and the maximal development of the brain. >> if you push the start time back, okay, i have to wake up later, i'll have to go to bed later. >> a lot of parents and other school administrators were concerned about that. >> when i was doing the study, public schools, that was a five year span of time, we did look at that and there were no kids
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that were staying up later because if the body was ready for sleep, falling sleep, the kids in a 5-year period of time, we documented that they had an hour more of sleep. they did not stay up later. >> an issue that people had raised with making the school day start later is it comflights with extracurriculars, sports, clubs, music and limit the ability of people able to work. >> of the 9,000 kids surveyed 11% worked for a job for pay. 11% of the 9,000 had jobs. however, the study that we have done in the past, we - emmores, and employers basically don't need the student employees until four or 5:00 pm, because they need extra help during rush hour, for people studying. so the employers did not have any problem with the school
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dismissing, say, at 3:30 or 3:50 as opposed to 2 o'clock. which was the provious time? the brookings institute put out a paper a couple of years ago arguing for a later start time. the secretary of state, said he supported the later start scenes. why haven't more schools done it? >> you know, it's an interesting question because schools in america are very concerned and believe in the local control, concept. american schools were founded on that. so to have a uniformed policy for all starting time of schools would be counterproductive number one, and number two, when a school district considers making the change, they are caning the norms of what is normal in the community, when do the buses run. when do parents leave for work. day care, all part of the decision, so it's not an easy decision that school district
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