slide revealed illegal logging may have been to ame.bl those are the headlines. see you at 11 eastern. coming up, a special report. obamacare - what now. "consider this" is coming up next. living on an unknown dangerous fault line, l.a.'s recent earthquakes raised fears that the big one could be bigger than we thought. also - venezuela oppression takes a harsh turn in the place where the protests began. is alcoholics anonymous failing the people. why your fears of your kids online activities may be unfounded. hello, i'm antonio mora, welcome to "consider this". here is more on what is ahead.

. >> today is the deadline for the affordable care act. >> if i stood up for you in november and said we'd be 6 million on march 31st, you would have marched me out of the room. >> it rattles you, so the kids are more scared than anything. >> we are concerned about something we can't see. structural damage that people do not know about. >> i have gone through a couple of quakes. >> thousands of soldiers in venezuela have removed barricades in san christo bell. >> confusion on the final day of enrolment for obamacare, confusion reined. the healthcare.gov website crashed for hours on monday, as

the obama administration hoped for a last-minute surge in sign-ups. the numbers will be up substantially than the 6 million. either nobody knows who the people are, or they aren't telling us. joe biden made an unusual last-minute appearance on the rachel ray show as a push to get the young people to hurry up and enroll. >> any young person listening. if you don't need this for your peace of find, do it for mum. do it for your dad. >> joining us from washington d.c. is megan mcardle, she writes on business, economic and policy and has been living and breathing obamacare for longer than i suspect she'd care to remember. great to have you on the show. you raised a lot of questions that you say we should have answers to, including how many people have bought and paid for

the policies, signed up, bought insurance who didn't have insurance, how the new policies compare to the old policies, how much subsidies are costing. why do we not know the answers? >> some are hard to know. for example, the sign-up, it's hard to know how many bought a policy and will not pay for a couple of days. some of the information that we don't have, we could have. we could know, for example, how many people have bought and paid for policies through the end of february, because the insurers could have asked and published the information. we could know what percentage of people sign up. sore they are young people between the ages of 30 and 25. we don't know the information because the administration has it but has not published it. we don't know how many were

previously insured. the administration could have asked insurers for numbers and compared it to the number they insured in september or at the same period a year ago. they have not asked for the data. we don't have it. hopefully a lot will come out. it will be slower than it should be. >> why don't we no? why are they not giving us that information? >> the administration tends to leak news of the good. it makes me suspect the demographics of the insurance pool are not as good as they like. if they had gotten to 35% young adults i'd suspect. although, of course, you can't know, i suspect we would have heard something about that. we have not yet. we are looking at demographics below what were projected and what they say were needed to make the insurance pools financially stable. the other information is, for example, how many people are now uninsured. well, you know.

the number comes from census surveys, and the survey for 2014 won't close until, you know, december. we will not get that information until 2015 and then it will be a bit contaminated because they survey over the course the year, and unfortunately for three months of the year, obamacare will not have been fully up and running. it will be until 2016 that we have a handle on how many people have insurance now, who wouldn't have had it before. >> and talking about the young people, going back to that. it's crucial to know, as you said. if not enough people - younger age groups sign up, premiums from everyone will soar. analysts are saying we are likely to see dubility digit increase. t "the washington post" says insurers may have low-balled

prooem youms to get -- premiums to get people to sign up. >> there's a lot of talk about insurers low-balling, and we created new insurers, coops. in maine, insurance, the bulk of it is done by an insurance coop. it could be great, but they are new, they may have accidentally underpriced and have to correct it next yeerp year. >> there is a sense that premiums will go up by a lot. right now the insurers are in negotiation. not just direct subsities, but things like reinsurance programs that the administration set up to caution the transition to the new marketplaces. they have a lot of incentive to say if we don't get more money

we'll have to raise premiums by 30%. we'll have to get information about this in may, when in some states the - it's done by state and varies when you have to file. starting in may, there's premium requests for next year, and we'll know what the premium situation will look like. >> and the website that started as a disaster ended up with a mini disaster. volume has been heavy. what is your gut on whether then rollment period will be deemed a success. >> a lot will be in the eye of the beholder. the administration will claim victory. you can say we got a lot of people signing up for plans. others may point out that it looks like at this point best guess, again, tentative, 20% of people buying plans are not paying for them. they are selecting plans, the metric that the administration

is using. is it a success or failure. and the question of what do premiums look like next year recollects do more sign up. the projects said are for increased sign-ups in 2016 and 2015. that we will not know for a while. you asked if obamacare is beyond repeal. some argue that it is. if millions of people are insured under-obamacare. we are fating tremendous unpopularity. we know that at least there's a distinct possibility that the republicans could have both houses on capitol hill in their control at the end of the year. in that context, will it survive. >> i think it's too early to tell. i hate to come on and say these known unknowned as was said.

we don't know how this will play out. a lot will depend on how many stay in the marketplaces. and like t the real obstacle, aside from winning elections is if you get an invested core of people that like it better than what you used to have. if you have this and the program is immune, they are not there yet though. >> so many questions, great to have you on the show. >> more than 100 aftershocks rumbled through the area after the 5.1 earthquake. californians worried about a quake along the well-known san andreas fault 35 miles out of los angeles. friday's happened along a recently discovered fault running from orange country, north west coast, to downtown los angeles and hollywood.

>> if a massive quake happens on that fault it could be worse than the one on san andray jas, and as many as 18 thouds could lose their lives. we are joined by a coordinators for the u.s. geological survey. >> 5.1 is not that powerful. people have slept through 5.1s. this spawned so aftershocks and the strongest is 4.1. is that normal. >> it's what we expect. it's typical for an earthquake of this size. the aftershock sequence looks normal based on statistics. at that point, one main shock, having 4.1 aftershock is considered normal. the aftershocks are decreasing with magnitude and time.

there's a possibility that we'll have a larger event, the possibility decreases with time. >> 5.ones, you don't associate with damage. there are dozens of homes that have to be insuspected. there are a number of broken apart mains. furniture was toppled. damage as much as 10 miles again. disneyland closed its rides. is that more than you would expect, is it because of where this was located. >> well, it actually - the damage is consistent with what we would expect. the magnitude 5.1 is relatively mild, near the epicentre, the earthquake that occurred five miles beneath the surface, it's

strong, strong enough to cause minor damage. i think the structural damage, some of the closures of buildings, certainly the closure of rides at disneyland was precautionary, it was warranted to make sure everything is okay. a number of the residences or buildings initially closed, i think people have been allowed back in. for the most part, southern california, the building codes we expect an earthquake of this size would not cause severe damage or collapse of structures. that's what we saw in the earthquake. >> if this happened in a populated area which hadn't been discovered sense 1999. the 20 longer sections was when i was there for the earlier earthquake coming from an unknown fault.

could there be many more in the area that we don't know about. >> that's a good question. you are right. it seems that we learn about faults when earthquakes occur. since the time, going back to 1987, size meteorologists and geologists have done a good, comprehensionive job of mapping out the faults that we can't readily see on the surface. as you pointed out, the northridge earthquake was damaging. witier narrows in 1987. they occurred on blind faults, they don't break all the way to the surface. the pointy hills fault, which is blind, the closest approach to the surface is 2-3 miles. is another fault that was mapped

out, as you said in 1999. i do want to point out. our furniture analysis indicates that friday's earthquake was on a secondary or subsidiary fault. it's close to, but not on the pointy hills thrust. being close to the fault is of concern, and we are monitoring that to see if we can learn what might be happening in terms of stress transfer. >> people have worried about san andreas, it's not a blind one, you see it in a lot of pleases. that would be the source of the bill one, but now people thing the now fault would be the big one. >> they are all dangerous. we have to face the reality, and a large number of southern

californians recognised the reality. is a san andray jas earthquake will affect a large area. a magnitude 8 could rupture 200 miles, and crosses transportation corridors, power, water, gas. in addition to the shaking damage, or the shaking intensity, it's a disruption of goods and services. you may not be able to get power, even though your structure is sound. you may not be able to get food or water because the deliver lines have been severed. and that is why the san andreas earthquake would be damaging and catastrophic. on the other hand a pointy hills earthquake on that fault, like the northridge in 1994, intense ground shaking, more localized,

but certainly capable of causing damage. the reason why that is more damaging is because of proximity. those faults are right underneath the dense populated regions of down-town los angeles, there's millions of people that would be directly affected by the very large motts. >> a lot living in old buildings. millions of people on top of the fault. good of you to join us and educate us about it. >> thank you. >> coming up venezuela's government makes a move to crush the opposition in the birth place of its protests. also - searching for reasons for washington state's mudslide. did logging contribute? >> and harmeli aregawi is tracking the top stories on the web. what is trending. >> a report on climate change highlights consequences we don't always think about.

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>> thousands of venezuela troops swept into the city that launched the protests. security forces cleared out barricades two weeks after the major was arrested for not repressing the protests. >> translation: we recovered an area under threat, often by armed thugs that would virtually kidnap people. we did it under the mandate of president nicolas maduro. we came to bring back peace, in a peaceful way. this is democratic state. we are joined from venezuela by hour latin american correspondent. what is the situation there now? >> we understand the situation

is calm, that the city has been militarized by 8,000 police and national troop. most of the barricades have been cleared, and some are still remaining. some are not crucial for the city, but apcs, armoured personnel carriers, military trucks have been deployed to patrol the city. and that is what the troops are doing. they are patrolling. we understand that people have been going out throughout the day. they have nothing - there hasn't been public transport, but people have been going out. some shops opened, some remained closed. and many people are cleaning debris of weeks of protesting in san crist orbing bel. >> important issues is that the gas stations are open. the gas stations provide the main illegal activity which is a

smuggling of gasoline into columbia. that is working all right. we understand from the sources that students are saying that for now they have tape a step back, and they will wait for the security forces to lower their guard, and continue protesting. >> there has been violence elsewhere, deaths in the second-largest city. the protests are continuing around the count rip. >> very much left in the past few weeks. there have been peaceful process. also in caracas. what we ask some of the students today is is this over, has it died down. many students told us that they are changing their tactics, that they are setting up tent cities

around the city. there are a few attempts in two areas. they have mattresses and bathrooms. they want to be there in the long haul. they want to take a step back. they should continue protesting because there is no media. it will show what is happening. what the students are saying is they will not stop protesting until the government complies. the demands are for the government to fight crime, food short iments, and to -- shortages, and to improve the economy. they say they don't have a future. we'll have to see what happens in caracas when the opposition leader tries to take her seat at the national assembly, which she

has been kicked out of by the government. there'll be a march tomorrow in connection with that. we are joined from washington dc by the president of the washington development in the americas and search -- served in the congress. now that it has been seized, how much of a below is it to the opposition. >> the climate of discontent remains in the country, record of mill tarisation attempts. inflation is sky rocketing scarcity continues. the government adopted a series of economic measures, including a devaluation of the currency. the economy is collapsing, and the insecurity, and the sense that there's no hope. unemployment is high. it will continue, unless there is a substantial change in the

path that this government has shown the venezuelans in the conduction of the country. the government is failing. they need to have a response. the potential is trying to turn everything into specific way of manifestation. however, the deposit keeps crashing and repressing. the balance of human rights violations is staggering at this point. we have more than 1,000 jews tried in processes in judicial processes that lack every guarantee of their individual rites, more than 100 detained. cases of torture that have been documented. and more than 35 people dead with us - more than 100 wounded.

the repress has been brutal, and not even the people who have a closer connection or a better connection to nicolas maduro can understand the level of opposition. the potential met and when they presented the dossier of human rights violation, the ministers of foreign affairs had nothing good to say about this. they were concerned. >> international newspapers do seem to be taking note of the venezuela situation, the "'financial times'" of london called venezuela a hood lum nation, and "the washington post" criticised it for violating its charter and stifling an attempt to report to it by the opposition leader. saying it was enabled by 15 caribbean countries that get subsidised oil and brazil, who has stood with nicolas maduro.

it's shameful that brazil, and neighbours will not make more of an effort. is there a chance of that changing? >> the human rights record of the government speaks control -- speaks volume. we know that cuba is present, inside of the venezuela rooem eem and plays a role, and it's malicious and disturbing. the international ally that the government of nicolas maduro has, and that the government of chavez had in the past was the government of brazil. it has turned into a diplomatic shield for the government of venezuela, and frustrates every effort to change the course of events. >> what's the solution.

what kind of pressure should quist. nicolas maduro said he can sit down with an observer and offered the vatican. do you think the vatican will get involved. the current secretary of state used to be the officer from the vatican. >> we set signals that we'll sit in a mediated dialogue with the vatican in front of it, and yesterday, and during the weekend there were specific messages sent in representation of a vatican and they are offering themselves to become the mediators. we heard that columbia, brazil and ecuador could be not part of the mediation process, but become facilitators to sit with the vatican and outline an agenda of what thu be this

dialogue about. enrico himself has been clear that he's willing to go to the dialogue mediated by the vatican. there are things that must be addressed. the disarmorment that needs to stop. paramilitary groups are washing around the country. it's an ongoing dangerous situation. let's hope that there is a mediation, "the washington post" is saying if there isn't, the u.s. should consider sanctions. >> i'm glad you gave me this opportunity. >> turning to the mudslide in washington state, where the death toll has risen to 24, and 30 are missing. nine days after the small logging down was truck by an avalanche of mud this is so.

a rainy weekend hampered rescue efforts and there's a toxic mess of gasoline, household chemicals, propane and septic tank waste. officials are taking precautions. >> so we don't take the contamination from this site and get other people sick. tetanus, nails, boards. disin tary. everybody is decon, they knock off the big chunks and they go though a wash-down. >> for more wr joined from arlington washington by sab reapa. good of you to join us. it's awful listening to him describe what it's like. officials released a partial list of those who died. what is the latest from those who are missing? >> they did release a list,

which is something new. they had not, up until this point, but they said they wanted to release the names of the 22, not 30, to 22 missing. they want to do everything they can to the families, hopefully bringing closure. they identified three victims in the debris field, not part of the 24 death toll. because of that, there could bethree of the 22 missing. it's a slow process. it has to go through the medical examiner, and we have been hampered by poor weather the last several days. fortunately today crews got a break. the weather has been fantastic in areas that they have not been able to search before. they have gone in and searched today. the water slowly has been reverieding in the areas. they've been using pumps around the clock to get the water out. the break afforded them the opportunity to get into some

areas that they have not been able to so far. you have to remember, it's a 640 acre debris field. so it's still going to be, you know, a long time before they are able to comb through all of it. it's also 30 to 70 feet deep in some areas. certainly it will take time. >> i know, it's been rough. they had to give some. dogs breaks because they've been working so hard. it's been a terrible situation. it's a big logging community, and now there are reports that the scope of the logging in that area might have contributed to the mudslide. you spoke to the department of natural resources about the logging? >> we did. we spoke with the department of natural resources a short time ago, and they talked about one particular incident? 2004, where one landowner was permitted to do some clear-cutting on seven acres. originally the landowner

requested that permit for about double that size, about 14 acres, was denied, because it was within the protected area. and then re-applied and was able to clear-cut in seven acres. that's all the department of natural resources are saying. they are carrying on an investigation of their own. they stress that there's other factors when they look at causes of landslides, like heavy rain fall. we had a lot of that. this march has been the second wettest in the area op record. that is saying something. in addition to heavy rainfall, erosion and the unstable geology of the river valley. they look at all the different factors and stress that they know everyone is trying to come up with an answer, but focussing on the clear cutting is

speculative. >> thank you. for more on those issues that sabrina brought up and logging, whether it may have played a role, we are joined by david montgomery, a gee ols at the university of washington and an author of "rocks don't lie - a geologist investigates noah's flood." >> you heard sabrina, it's a sensitive question in a logging town. the "seattle times' reported that the washington department of natural resources had been using outdated boundaries from 1998 to determine where people could log or not log. and maybe a certain amount of land, five acres was logged that should not have been logged. what is your reaction? >> at this point we can probably regularly route out a couple of

options than diagnose what caused the slide. factors that we can rule out is the minor earthquake. it is too small. the undercutting of the bank of the winter. it doesn't seem to have been significantly. i talked with a colleague who inexpected the area. it leaves water as the culprit. we had record rain fall during the month of march. what might be the kbds to logging? -- connection to logging? how it may have affected water to the hill slope. the recharm area upslope of the slide would be the area contributing water to the site. it would be through how the trees remove a good portion of the water up to half of it, as i have seen estimated from arse that have been logged, that had not been logged, the treeses

wouldn't get to the down watertable. >> your answer is you'd need to know the history of loggings, translate it into how much water that may have resulted in delivering to the slope, over what period of time, because the hydrologic change can last decades. there are disagreements, is seems about how to define what the research area is. it will be argued about. what was the hydrologic plumbing in the highliside, hill slopes are complicated. after logging in prior decades there would mudslides that followed. the washington department and resources - it disagrees with

the report and said in a statement to us, a 7 acre timber harvest caused a massive 2 million landslide. this is speculative and ignores factors that experts recognise that the primary cause for deep seated landslides. these include the inherently unstable of the river valley, the erosion of the highly slopely the rif and near record rain fall in march. could there have been a double issue. where the river was eroding or up above, especially as a result of the logging, that there may have been double pressure. the two clear factors as to why the hill slope had been unstable, was the very unstable geology. it will be correct. and the river had been cutting

into the toe. they conspired to make it a hazard area. there's no question that is correct. the question about renewed incision. the erosion control structure, he inspected it the thursday before the landslide. that convinces me that was not a major factor. he saw it, there was not much to see. that leaves water as the key element. the clear cut that has been identified in the 2004, the 7.5 acre clear cut was a small area and a large landslide. was it in a critical area, those are questions that i think on either side of an answer it would be speculative to address with conclusive power at this

point. it needs to be looked into. questions will be asked and it - in terms of the potential impact, it may, in the end remain murky. >> let's hope the questions can be answered so lessons can be learnt. david montgomery good to have you on the show. the book is "rocks don't lie." >> and harmeli aregawi. >> a u.n. report says the effect of climate change are worse than scientists predicted. according to the report by the intergovernmental mannel is the pure are and will be the hardest hit, as princeton professor, one of the study's authors put if we are all sitting ducks. it points to heatwaves in europe, wild fires in the west, and deadly fires in mozambique and pakkize stan. the disasters will make it

easier for disease to spread and: >> environmental activists are urging world leaders to do something about the problem. >> it's the time to act, cut emissions and fight climate change. there's ample opportunity, and that is when they need to put better policies on the table and save the people. >> now, although a majority of the scientists back the report, it's not unanimous. the study is focussing too. on the risks you can read more on the web side. let us know what you think. back to you. >> and straight ahead it most of what we know about alcoholics anonymous wroong, and are addicts hurt as a result. the eiffel tower celebrates a

mile stop, not bad for a structure that wasn't supposed to be around. taking a step back from the restrictions from our kids.

>> our 12 step programs - are they failing people that need them. alcoholition anonymous helped millions to overcome addiction. a book calls into question their methods and success, and the success of rehab programs in generate. i'm joined by dr lance dodas former director and author of: >> good to have you on the show tonight. you found studies that you

looked through these and found the success rate of aa is 5-10%. one in 15 of those that enter the program end up sebber. if that's the -- sober. >> if that's the case why is it the gold standard? >> there's two reasons, bill wilson, who injected aa and marty mann were terrific at marketing the program. in the 1930s, most the medical institutions said it was useless. in the 1940s, they were behind it with no scientific changes. that has continued until the present day. people have risen to important positions in treatment facilities, as well as state

government. they maintain it. the other factor is that the 12th step aa, is people would do well talk about it, write books. we hear about the success stories, we don't here from 90% of people that are not doing well. they don't write books. we have a false impression that the few people doing well represent the group. >> we discussed the topic on the show, and some argued aa, if it's that 10%, it helped millions and can create a sense of community among those that have addiction. and many credit it as an important component. if it helps the 10%, does that make it worth while? >> it is worth while for the 10%, no question about that. no one is questioning that it helped some people. the problem is that we predescribe aa more almost 100%

of people. doctors, psychologists, people are sending them to aa so they are doing the wrongs lining 90% of the time. if the other 90% were getting a neutral result, it wouldn't be bad, but the 90% are being harped by being sent to a program that canned help them -- can't help them. in the second place, in our culture we accepted the idea that aa is always right. in other words, aa tells you if you are not doing well, work the program harder, go to meetings, go to 90 meetings in 90 days. the same is true of rehab. when people do poorly and they go back again, we say, "what's wrong, they are not working the program?" no one thinks the rehab is poor treatment. >> one of the harms is that people are told that there are

failures. >> the rehab industry is the other place aside people going with meetings. tens of billions in revenue, betty ford, hazel tonne, sara tuscon are household names, they are expensive, upwards of $30,000 a month. is their success rate as bad as aa from their perspective. why do people spend so much funny if it doesn't work? >> it's a great question. people should ask themselves that question. almost every rehab in the country is 12 steps - not all of them. almost all of them don't do outcome studies, they don't public them, and went tell you what they are if they do do them. it's unregulated. people claim they have fabulous success rates. there's no proof. why people go to them is we believe their

claims, and we - in a way we can't believe that an industry can be financially successful and give poor results. sadly, it's true. >> does it help at all as a pause, a detox, something that focuses attention on the problem and helps people stop? >> detox is necessary medically. you node to stay in the hospitals as long as it talks. it's a couple of days for most people. these programs are 28 or 30 days long, which is, itself, insane. there's no reason why the length of time for the moon to go around the earth should be the time you need rehabilitation fremantle. the reason it's 30 days is insurance would only pay for 30 days, so that became the proper length of time for teement. there is very little else to recommend. i agree, times you need a time out. you don't need to spend $30,000

to $90,000 for horse therapy. rike mass around, energy transfer. it's unproven and silly stuff that you pay for. >> your suggestion is people focus on therapy yip. >> it's a good idea. i don't think there's one answer for everybody. my patients have been helped by ideai wrote about, but i would never suggest, as aa does, come to us, we are always right. you are not work are hard enough if you don't do it. therapy can help. people can be helped by understanding addiction, as i tried to write about in the pa.. >> so many effected by this. good of you to join us to talk about it. the book is "the sober truth." >> coming up, are parents forwards of online bullying and predators overblown. first, the eiffel tower may be among the biggest tourist

attractions but it was not built to last. we explain in data dive, next.

christmas >> today's data dive climbs a global landmark.

misunderstand marks 125 years since the eiffel tower opened. gooust of eiffel's company beat out many. he built the tour at a cost of $1.5 million. more than $38 million in today's dollars. it was finished in time for the 1889 world fair. it was meant to last 20 years, new uses, playing host to science experiments, radio traps missions and a milt -- transmission and a military post lengthened its life span. it stands 1,063 feet, including the highest anten e. 400 feet left than the empire state building, but strip the the height of the statute of liberty. he also built lady liberty's internal framement the beauty and views made it a must-sea.

it's estimated to be the most visited monument. it ranges from $20 to $14.50. that's if you are willing to wait in lines that are ridiculously long. the tower's official site says 7 million visitors come every year, three-quarters of whom are foreigners. no word on who climbs the 365 steps. there's five elevators to prove from. it gets a coating taking 60 tops of paint and the city of lights monument is lit by 336 projectors and 30,000 light bulbs. no wonder they need to charge the entry fees. it's an icon from "a view to a kill", james bond, "superman

ii", and countless others. it's still a roam aptic sigh. >> next, why kid on electronic gadgets may not be as bad as we have been led to believe.

>> from online predators to fatal bullying, we hear about online dangers. and gadgets that keep them

connected to everyone. a new book, it's complicated, lives of network teams looks at conventional wisdom. we have author and academic who has spent years researching. dana, you have been hearing from personality about their fears, you think a lot is unfounded. >> people are concerned and for good reasons. the risk is disquected from reality. they -- the risk is disconnected. their hanging out, gossiping and flirting, but they are doing to online. part of it is because we don't have access to different areas. the area is gone. they are going online. >> it's a different way of interacting because of what the world has done to them. >> citition have focussed on the

issue of bullying. >> are you dismissing that as not a big a deal as what it is. >> it's a soars problem. whether it's on or off line, we use technology as a distraction. the irony is that when we stablilize the definition, we haven't seen a rise in the last 30 years, strangely young people report that it's far worse at school, far greater dewar es, what's different, and what we start to see is at some levels things condition into the home, the school, which is a reason paris gets concerned. >> they see it as their home. they ralent to everything, not just bullying. so does the support they get from the fears. young people, not just experience cruelty, but love and affection and support and validation. >> the positive side, and

there's a section in the book about the online sexual predator myth. i remember doing a story, going to the fbi and going online, trying to catch sexual predators. there's guys out there trying to find teenage girls. the changes about what happens when they are engaged in these situations. what is advantage is it's young people who, themselves are at risk. they are abused at home, suffering mental health issues. often from late something, early 30 something-year-old men. they portray themselves as something older. they are looking for taption and validation. >> is it a problem, absolutely. it's not the image they have. it's not like a random stranger reaching out and abducting a teenager. >> you say parents are hip accurates complaining about

parents texting. i saw a kid at a restaurant with an ipad and earphones and his sister doing the same thing, not engaging, is that a problem? >> young people don't want to hang out with their parents, it's not knew. it's difficult. >> even when they are with other kids they are on the phones. >> they are not when the adults are not around. the group of young people, when they are alone with their friends, things change. >> we have 30 seconds left. how involved should parents be in monitoring what they do online. >> it's a process, there's no silver bullet solution. it's about making a healthy relationship, helping online or off. >> no cyber stalking. >> it depends on the specifics of your child. it desrunts trust.

>> it's a new world. >> brave new world as someone wrote years ago. it's complicated. that's the name of your book. good to have you with us. >> that's it for us tonight. see you next time. >> good evening, everyone. welcome to al jazeera america. i'm john seigenthaler in new york. to tell the truth - another major gm recall. new safety questions, and charges of a cover up. tomorrow the c.e.o. faces congress. an hour left. the open enrol for obamacare ends at midnight. what happens after the deadline. we talk to tom dashel, former senate majority leader. >> outrage, heir of the dooupon un