flood water phenylly receded in washington state, allowing rescuers to better look through debris. 13 still missing. i'm libby casey, "consider this" with antonio mora is up next. >> combative text in capitol hill over the benghazi attack. also venezuela's president tear gases opposition heerdz and thed then claims he's the victim of bias. will the wealthy have more to say over who is elected? and escaping a prison sentence because he's rich?

i'm antonio mora, here's more on what's ahead. venezuela's president, nicholas maduro lark out. protesters clashed with riot police once again. >> after two months of protests there's no sign that they will stop. good this is a knife fight. senate democrats investigating passive abuses by cia. >> the man who crafted the benghazi talking points insisted -- >> we did not -- >> some students are opting out. >> selgt for a status quo of mediocrity should not be the answer.about. >> fourth degree rape, he admitted he performed sex acts on his three-year-old daughter. >> my guess has a lot to do with this. >> we begin with breaking news from fort hood texas which spent much of wednesday in lock down

after the second mass shooting in five years. four were killed, 14 wounded at the army base, home to the first cavalry division. nadal hasan killed 14 people in 2009. after wednesday's shooting president obama expressed his support for the bases soldiers and families. good obviously our thoughts and prayers are with the entire community and we are going to do everything we can to make sure that the community at fort hood has what it needs to deal with the current situation, but also, any potential aftermath. at their home base they need to feel -- we don't know yet what happened tonight but oddly that sense of safety has been broken once again. >> for more let's go to washington, d.c. and al jazeera correspondent mike viqueria. it's just awful to hear this has

happened again mike. what's the hatest? >> fort hood the largest army base in the country. the home to veterans of afghanistan iraq wars. there have been many conflicting reports about the number of dead and injured anywhere from 1 to 4 killed. we are expecting a press conference from authorities at any moipt moment now. it will be welcomed because there so much conflicting statements. when the order came down shelter in place a lock down, people were told to stay low in their houses. we understand in the last few minutes that lock down has now been lifted. reminiscent as you pointed out, of the shooting five years ago, 13 people killed. president obama has been

traveling in michigan, he had an event surrounding the minimum wage like he was sponsoring, and then to chicago, it was there that he spoke to reporters, he assured everyone, "we are going to get to the bottom of exact hi what happened." he says it r reopens the pain of what happened at fort hood. the navy yard shoot just a few moments ago in washington, d.c. and chuck hagel is at a conference for asian defense ministers, he says when we have a tragedy at our bases, something is not working. >> what do we know about the shooter? >> we understand it is soldier to soldier violence, on twitter any number of scenarios have

been playing out. it's best to stay away from those. but we understand it is most likely soldier on sol swrer violence. >> al jazeera will stay on top of the story. criticism of the cia, the hits just keep on coming. the focus was again on benghazi attack in 2012 where four americans were killed. deputy director mike morel. >> we did not deliberately down play the role of terrorists in our analysis or talking points. >> this comes as senator dianne feinstein blasted the agency over allegations, interrogation activities after 9/11.

sr. director john brennan denies that, this feud is not going away any time soon. >> i will explain tot president exactly what i did and what the findings were and he the one that can ask me to stay or to go. >> on thur, a senate committee will, expected to show that the cia misled the pilkington on the use and value of using torture on detainees. for more we're joined from washington, d.c. by mike m mazetti. good to have you with us. let's start with mike morale and his testimony on wednesday. crafting those infamous talking points, argued that the results, down play the attack that it was

a terrorist attack from the benefit of the obama election campaign. what happened, was this an issue of competence, ignoring a cia station chief that was there and telling you what's going on? >> morel indicated talking points were inartfully created, the land was no strategy to down play the role of terrorism and vigorously refuted this idea that he was killing anyone's water for political contributions. it is a political issue in the political bloodstream, it is going to be an issue if hillary clinton runs for president. unfortunately, benghazi is with it for a while. and moralee did his best to take

his role out of for the time being. >> why do you think it played out the way it did? >> for one reason you have a deadly a tack that killed an american ambassador. it was a tragedy and a very important moment in this ongoing conflibt of terrorism. but you have this real political scene where republicans are charging a coverup. i think someone in the ministry would admit the early days were not handled well directly after the benghazi attack. that is just more chum in the water. >> the senate's investigation into the cray and you wrote on wednesday that people who have read the report says it's

uncompromising. what is the worst of it lying about the methods and how much intense interrogation was used,. >> we have tried for a year to get to the bottom of the report and it's classified. we get some pieces and some details. i think in the end and again, this is subject to speculation, that the reeg significance of this report will be these conclusions and the explanation of how the cia systematically was inflating the value of this program. less new details about specific interrogations, although we certainly will learn some. but i think it's really going to be the legacy of the program and maybe there had been a real systematic effort to sell the value of the program not only to the white house but also the extent of the american people.

>> and to night extent of the black sites? >> there have been repeated assertions from the va e-delay only three people were award-bordewater-boarded. whether it was officially sanctioned, that's what we're trying to find out. there is still so many years later a lot to be learned about this period of history. >> the senate intelligence committee votes on thursday, voting to declassify this executive report, incredibly long, thousands of pages, apparently. is it likely we'll see that soon? >> that will go to president obama for declassification. president obama has said he will push to declassify it. it could take weeks, months,

days if president obama really tries to push it. i do think there is a condition that politically, this has dragged on too long, it is hurting the president, is making him look like he's covered up something that he has the record shows long opposed so i think the white house recognizes that they would like to get this out sooner rather than later. >> what about this spy versus spy situation we're seeing in washington, the cia being under the microscope, whether the cia spied on the senate intelligence committee, the senate intelligent committee got documents it shouldn't have gotten, dianne feinstein has been a supporter, already buffeted by controversies, the rupture by ms. feinstein one of

its closest allies, could have ramifications, what do you think happened? >> that is one of the extraordinary situations, the legacy of this program, you have these accusations of each side spying on each other. and it's now at the justice department to sort out to see whether any crimes were committed. i don't think that the justice department is going to take up the investigation in the sense they are going to charge anyone with crimes but it has some real effects. one is the constitutional issue of separation of powers. was the cia improperly monitoring the very people who were supposed to be overseeing them? secondly you have the political story. it's not a good idea for the cia to cross the intelligence communities their funders their overseers especially when you said dianne feinstein for the most part has been pretty vigorous in her defense of cia

and its programs. >> we'll see what the justice department review comes up with and again if people are interested in looking at the cia and what the cia's role has been in wars around the world including afghanistan, the drone wars and osama bin laden, you should read mark's book, the way of knife. thank you for coming on. >> now to the supreme court which reviewed four the five-four decision either strengthens freedom of speech or blows out a fire wall against corruption. in chief justice john roberts ruling, right to participate in electing our political leaders. justice breyer wrote, today's decision eadvice rates, grave --

eviscerates,. >> let's bring in jeffrey stone from chicago, he's written a number of books on constitutional law and a former member of president's nsa review panel, he made some surprising comments about the intelligence agency's role, we want to get to that in a moment but we'll start with campaign financing. jeff good to see you. this furthers the citizens united ruling, the ruling does not increase the amount an individual can contribute to an individual candidate but what it does is gives the individual the chance to drobt as many candidates as they want -- to contribute to as many candidates as they want without limits. >> to eviscerate any restrictions on the ability of individuals to use the large amounts of influence to political process. in the name of freedom of speech i think what they're doing as

justice breyer said in dissent, underlying the fundamental democracy that the freedom of speech is meant to preserve. >> the center for, series of candidates, so how big a deal is it if only that few people can really afford this level of contributions? >> it's a big deal. if everybody could afford it then much less of a problem. the fact that only a relate small number of americans, what it basically does is put political candidates in the pockets of these very billionaires and that's not exactly the way the democratic process should work and that's a serious threat to democracy in the united states. these are bad decisions, bad decisions. >> justice roberts wrote, despite the profound offense

that those spectacles cause, despite popular opposition, and popular opposition is there. why this disconnect? >> well, first of all justice roberts use of those analysis are really problematic because they're wrong. the core protection of the first amendment is, the examples that you gave of the nazis marching in skokie or flag burning, it does not like the message, that's not the case here. the government for example can certainly say people can't use loudspeakers in a political campaign in a residential neighborhood at 2:00 in the morning. those have always been upheld under the first amendment. toal eyes the campaign -- to

analogize, it's completely a false analogy. the fact that we do allow the federal government to regulate the volume of loudspeakers, how come it is that 80% of the american people disagree with the supreme court on this issue, this is a case that 80% of americans have good common sense. freedom of speech does not necessarily entail the ability of a billionaire to buy candidates right and left. >> let's move on to the nsa, the review group, you made recommendations how to control the nsa, you just spoke to the nsa and wrote about it and saying there is no doubt that the nsa has thwarted terrorist plots and it has a high degree of integrity. >> one of the things that i was surprised of as a me of the national advisory council and

well-known civil libertarian, high degree of integrity and care and does in fact make a very conscientious effort to stay within the bonds of the haw, i think were excessive and inappropriate, with the congress, the president and with the foreign intelligence surveillance court, so attention should really be placed here not on the nsa, a bad guy, my sense is that the nsa is not a bad guy, it is simply exercising the authorities it's been given, i think not sufficiently careful about constraining those authorities. so i came to have a great deal of respect for the nsa and its employees and i think it's important to turn attention to the responsibility where that responsibility really belongs. >> so your concern is that it has too much power and despite those positives you found, you think that we should not trust

the nsa? >> i don't think we should trust any part of government, large degree of power, that's an essential predicate, house and a senate the reason we have a president elected four years, separation of powers checks and balances those are all designed because we are not supposed to trust government and we should not trust the nsa any more than we should trust the senate intelligence committee but the fact is that in the recent past the fa has acted in my opinion -- the nsa has acted in my opinion with a high degree of responsibility. we should focus our attention on those entities that have really made the mistakes there and it's not the nsa. >> two important topics, jeffrey stone, thanks for coming. >> thanks for having me antonio. >> today after he tear gassed his option. also fighting common core testing at schools. how parents are having their

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>> now to the crisis in

venezuela, and president nicholas maduro's defense, venezuela a call for peace maduro wednesday accused the foreign media of "distorting the reality of my country and the facts surrounding protests that have seen nearly 39 killed, and arrested and jailed. maduro said his government had reduced poverty and inequality, and the 1% who sought to reverse the gains and enjoy the vast majority of the people. tear gas firing police on tuesday when she led an opposition march to try and retake her seat in venezuela's national assembly. she tried to address a meeting of the organize of american states as a representative of panama. viral video like this, graphically illustrate the tear gas barrage on the protesters.

for more on president maduro's actions, harold, good of you to be with us. president maduro's op ed, actions like tear gassing, and jailing leopoldo lopez, have a dialogue for peace? good it's a pleasure to join you. the calls for dialogue if venezuela from the government have been relatively recent in response to growing international pressure, growing international for trails of the violence in venezuela. there is a dual message here between the violence and repression that we're seeing

against the opposition and the calls for peace that are now gaining new prominence among venezuelan, including pad rowe. >> calling for peace in venezuela, they talked about the brutal repression against dissidence that is going on there. maduro writes in his peace rightfully that there has been a change in poverty, that power and resources have become more equally distributed that venezuela has cut poverty in half since his mentor hugo chavez took power in 1999. how does venezuela's efforts on that front how do they compare with the rest of latin america? >> it is true that venezuela has made progress in increasing social inclusion. venezuela has gained a windfall

revenue over the oil revenues, government has put some of the oil revenue into social programs and other increasing domestic consumption. venezuela ranks similarly to some of the other areas in the region brazil and chile which have also made great progress on reducing poverty. general commodity boo boom. >> the oil prices have gone from about $19 near the beginning of chavez regime to sometimes $150 per barrel, so venezuela has had a massive increase in income but. >> it is true but the windfall revenues of venezuela really

dwarf, 25 to 30% of gdp per year during the past decade. >> despite the oil boom, terrible, terrible increase in crime, probably the third highest murder rate, third highest inflation in the world. how does maduro survive that kind of pressure? because the argument is that this is now reaching all parts of venezuelan society not just the rich. >> that's correct, i think the maduro administration realizes it has been making adjustments to the economic model. we've seen the government since the last fall taking measures to reduce consumption. consumption was greatly outstripping the supply of oil income and of imports have hit venezuela.

>> claims in his peace that the antigovernment protests are being carried out by the hundreds of thousands of people in some of these marches in the associated press is saying that now the barricades are not limited just to middle class neighborhoods that they have spread throughout the country including in poor neighborhoods especially outside of caracas. >> protests actually started in the western city of san cristobal. protests have been around the capitol city of caracas. the efforts to call attention to economic problems, scarcity, and rising levels of crime in the

country. >> so how does it play out? he was elected democratically, whatever you may think of the power of the government in an election and the size of the federal government is passive in venezuela, nothing compared to our federal government here, people complain about how big that is, and they control the media, they control all the aspects of, you know all powers all the different branches of government. what happens? can there be a recall election next year? do you think anything will happen before that? >> well, i think the recall election may be problematic. venezuela's experience with recall elections in the past was that the signatures that were needed to convene the recall about 20% of the registered voters those lists were then used to persecute or punish people that had called for the recall of president hugo chavez in the previous administration. i think more likely is the one

window of opportunity may be the possibility of dialogue supported by international mediation, perhaps by unasur or greater attention to mechanisms in venezuela's system that would lead to the renewal of the supreme court, the national electoral council, the tonal aty general and the national ombudsman. >> machado was there speaking to the general assembly, hairbled thank you for speaking. new common core tests, they began on monday with three schools in brooklyn having more than 70% of students opting-out. and it's happening across the country with parents and kids taking a stand against similar tests in their states. joining us here in new york is a nearly 20 year veteran of the

education sector, based here in new york city she is also a mother whose eight-year-old opted out of the startized exams. >> thank you for having me. >> your son eight years old third grader, you don't think the standardized tests are age appropriate. >> they absolutely are not appropriate for eight, nine or ten-year-olds. i start by telling you i taught third grade before, it's not i need three hours to, find out what my child knows in reading math. why do they go on so long? one mother's daughter, cries every time she picks up a pencil she's concerned she's a bad

writer. she's eight years old. i'm not opposed to assessing children to find out what they know because we use assessments to teach. these are high stakes teacher evaluations, the results come out over the summer after the school year's ended so no one can use that information and it's also just the number. the parents get no information to know how can i actually help my child? so i don't agree with the high stakes. >> you have a problem with the standards involved in common are core itself, because what they're trying to do is make sure all children have a certain level of education, a proficiency in these subjects by the time they graduate from high school. >> what i want to say is there's nothing wrong with standards and high quality schools have always had standards but those standards are set by expeshts in the field. the teachers and the administration and the community, what can really reflect what we know children need to be doing. it is fine to have conversation

about standards, it is silly to attach teacher evaluation to one test. >> where america ranks with developed countries we are doing terrible, we're near the bottom. >> we are. >> if we do implement common core as it's it's expected, new york adopted it early but it's going to spread to much of the country soon enough, how do you know whether things are working if you don't have these tests? >> it's funny you should bring this up. i think that's where we really need to start to address poverty in this country, unequal access to high quality schools and then we can talk about what's actually happening in communities and in schools. we can't test our way into high standards, we can't test our way into high academic achievement, it just doesn't work. >> your concern about somebody who mass been with state

implemented programs is teachers are teaching to the test and not really focusing on kids learning? >> absolutely. you would teach to the test if you were going to being judged on your children's performance. just common sense. children are not getting science, not getting trips, not learning how to talk to each other, where people can't figure out how to communicate and do music and science and other things in addition to ghish and math. >> that's the problem you -- english and math. >> that's leading to important subjects being ignored. >> they are being ignored and cut out and children get the sense they are not important at all. the pressure to do well on the test is pushed down to children younger and younger and younger. we have kindergarteners, people are saying kindergarten is the

new first grade. you sort of chuckle about it, but it's not. children are still five in kindergarten and we need to treat them as such. >> children are concerned about this. >> they are terrified, stressed, children vomiting,. >> what do you think parents should do? >> parents should educate themselves, go to change stakes.org, we have a great video where parents are talking about why we chose to opt our own children out. diana ravage on her blog has so much information every day. there are more dots to be connected and i urge the parents to do the work and find out so you can advocate for your children. >> thank you for being on our program. >> thank you. >> what's trending let's check with hermella.

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in. >> that he dropped the charges such that he wouldn't have to spend any time in prison. that's what the outrage is about, the lack of jail time. the question is whether or not this me deal looks like other me deals, whether another defendant would get the same deal, chances are no. what does a regular defendant have? in most cases a public defender, an overworked lawyer with 100 case necessary his bag or maybe an appointed lawyer who has 50 cases in he his or her bag. this guy had rich lawyers,

foremost attorneys really, really good lawyers. did he get the benefit of his privilege? lady justice has two scales, tipping the scales this way, he tipped the scales this way with all his considerable resources. >> good evening i'm libby casey, we're going to interrupt for a press conference. >> i'm colonel christopher gar g.arver. thank you all for coming tonight. we're going to introduce, colonel milley. we'll direct you as to when it's

okay for you to ask your question. lieutenant general mark a. milley. >> good evening, i'd like to start off first with condolences to the killed and wounded soldiers here at fort hood. from an incident this afternoon, approximately 1600 or 4:00 p.m. today, a soldier assigned to command expeditionary, fired shots at individuals within the area here, within the first medical brigade area and the 49th transportation battalion area. post meadly went into lock down and we have now lifted the lock down as of 30 or 45 minutes ago. within 15 minutes first responders with the military police and military services responded to the scene, engaged the shooter, and the shooter dead from a self-inflicted

gunshot wound. in regard to the investigation, at this time, there is no indication that this incident is related to terrorism. although we are not ruling anything out and the investigation continues. an investigation by various law enforcement officers at federal level from atf and fbi, at the state level from the texas rangers, the texas state police along with local law enforcement of kpd and harker heights along with army cid and airm military police. we -- and army military police. we have confirmed that there are three victims who were killed and then the shooter was killed. and there are 16 injured, being treated at scott and white and here at darnell. our thoughts and prayers to each of those injured and their families and the killed and

their families. our focus now is to focus on the families of the injured, and focus on the families of the killed. ensure that they have the best care and counseling available. i do ask the fort hood community or anyone in the local community, if they have any information relating to this incident to please contact either the fbi or the fort hood department of emergency services. events in the past have taught us many things here in fort hood. we know the community is strong, resilient and the soldiers of this fort have served so bravely in combat over the last 13 years in both iraq and afghanistan are strong and we will get through this. thanks to all who have supported us. thanks to local community who have supported us over the last several hours in many years and thanks also specifically to scott and white for their

excellent medical care and their ability to handle additional casualties. with that i will take your questions. >> (inaudible) from nbc do you have a motive? >> we do not have a motive. we know this soldier was having behavioral health and medical health issues and was being treated for that. >> (inaudible). >> at this point his next of kin has not been notified so i am not going to give you his name. we do have his name but we'll wait until the next of kin has been contacted. he served in iraq in 2011. >> (inaudible) ptsd. >> he was currently under treatment for ptsd but not diagnosed with ptsd.

the time line of events are not 100% clear. it is believed that he walked into one of the unit buildings opened fire got into a vehicle, fired from a vehicle, got out of the vehicle walked into another building and opened fire again and that was witnessed by local law enforcement here at fort hood. i'm sorry? >> (inaudible) did he begin this thing with an argument? we heard this was an gowment and that's how he started and he was using a semi automatic. >> he was using a 45 caliber smith and wesson semi automatic pistol that was purchased locally, there may have been an argument in one of the unit areas but don't have any indication of an argument at

wtu. >> have you nawnl. >> he had not been assigned to the wtu. >> (inaudible). >> that we don't know. he was checking his background, he recently arrived in fort hood, from another installation, we are checking with the installation to determine the background of the soldier. obviously we are digging deep into his background, any criminal history, psychiatric history, his experiences in combat all of the things you would expect to be done are being done right now. >> (inaudible). >> i'll come back to you, hang on just a second. go ahead. >> the age of the soldiers (inaudible). >> they were a result of the gun fire either direct wounds from the 51 fire, some cases there was some glass at a shattered and some have some superficial wounds from that. others one was jumping a fence and got injured there but as a result of.

>> the soldier (inaudible) out of the military? >> he was not in the process of being transitioned out of the military at this time. >> where was his body found. >> his body was found in the parking lot where he was engaged by military police. >> do you know (inaudible). >> military police officer responded and he was approaching her at about 20 feet. hands up, then reached under his jacket, pulled out the .9 mil and she pulled out her weapon and she engaged and he put the weapon to his head and he died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. go ahead. >> were you able to rule out terrorism? >> i'm not resuming out terrorism, all i'm saying is, there is no indication of it at this time. fbi and all appropriate agencies

and various organizations search searching all the internet twitter, facebook, is ongoing, we do not have any indications of that now but i'm not ruling that out. >> (inaudible). >> say again? >> (inaudible). >> we are not ruling in or out anything. >> said that in light of the (inaudible) and hasan in 2009 that he is (inaudible) not his targets do you share that concern? >> i'm not sure i understood what he said. but no, i don't have fort hood as a specific target. any other installation. >> do you (inaudible). >> the soldier is married does have family and again we're in the process of notification. >> were they here to serve or

from some other (inaudible). >> they're in the local area that's correct. >> were any of the victims (inaudible). >> i do not know that. >> to our knowledge he had one weapon, april 45 caliber smith & wesson. if i said .9 millimeter, i was incorrect. it is a .45 caliber smith & wesson. in the other building they conducted transportation battalion. not far away from each other. >> (inaudible). >> 49th transportation battalion yes, woe have gone to that on occasion for administration purposes. that is the headquarters. >> for his treatment? >> no, not for his treatment. that's his unit headquarters.

>> rank. >> i did not say his rank or his name, i will do that when his family is appropriately notified. he was undergoing behavioral health and psychiatric treatment for depression, and anxiety, and a variety of other psychological and psychiatric issues. he was not assigned to the wtu at the time. >> (inaudible). >> clearly heroic, what she did. at that moment in time, and she did her job and she did exactly what we would expect of a united states army military police. >> (inaudible). >> he was not diagnosed as of today with ptsd. he was undergoing a diagnosis process, that is a lengthy process to be confirmed with

ptsd. there are reports, i don't know if he was diagnosed in the clinical sense, there are reports that he self-reported a traumatic brain injury previously coming back from the iraq corps. >> was he on medications? >> he was on medications that's correct. yes was. >> (inaudible). >> was not a wounded warrior, not wounded in action. no purple heart, not wounded in action in that regard. >> (inaudible). >> at this time i'd prefer not. i got folks calling that installation talking to the chain of command in order to determine all the background information of the soldier. >> (inaudible). >> i'm sorry? >> (inaudible). >> what state? >> (inaudible). >> it's here in texas. okay, a couple for questions. yes, ma'am.

>> (inaudible). >> all of the wounded and killed were military. >> sir, away can you tell us about protocol, other soldiers that are allowed on base, what can you tell us about security? >> if you have a weapon and you're on base it's supposed to be registered on base. this weapon was not registered on base. >> general (inaudible). >> immediate reaion was casualties, away kind of casualties and do we have one or more shooters and are those shooters secure and to provide the protection for the local community. >> was the fbi already on the scene (inaudible). >> we have a local fbi liaison officer but no, large you know assets were not he. they are actually inbound to help with the investigation. but no local fbi available to

us. >> (inaudible) lot of programs were placed in helping the soldiers dealing with issues coming back from service in light of what's happened today do those programs have gaps in them? >> we'll have to examine all of those programs to see if they have gaps so i'm not ready to answer that yet. >> general over the years (inaudible) and now this are you concerned beyond this place is becoming a target for people for whatever reason i mean would your reaction to this have been not again here? >> my reaction was not, not again here, my reaction was to immediately secure the site and immediately look for one or more shooters in a security installation.

i wasn't thinking about not again or any of that. >> what do you think now? >> my concern is with the families of those that were injured and those that were killed. >> what are your thoughts on (inaudible). >> you're not allowed to carry concealed weapons on base. >> (inaudible). >> no, i don't think a soldier should have concealed weapons on base. we have law enforcement agents, we are trained professionals and i don't endorse carrying concealed weapons on base. >> (inaudible). >> it was within minutes, exact time ten to 15 maybe, max. >> (inaudible). >> i think the law enforcement acted very rapidly, and swiftly, given the nature of this circumstance. i'm not going to get into a debate with you on carrying

weapons on a military installation. >> (inaudible). >> say again? >> (inaudible). >> no, i don't have the specifics and i'd rather not go into that. the shooter was a male. and the officer, that engaged the shooter, was a female, but the other injured no, i don't. say again. probably about 15 minutes, 20 minutes, but we don't have exact time line. let me go to someone else. anyone else? go ahead. >> can you talk a little bit about how (inaudible). >> well i think the response from the law enforcement and the medical folks display clear

lessons learned from the previous case and i think that it was obvious that the response was swift and it was appropriate both from a law enforcement perspective and from a medical perspective. last question. >> sir, you mentioned that the suspect had bought the weapon (inaudible) how much indication do you have on premeditation, (inaudible) something going on? >> i do not know and that will be part of the investigation. don't know anything about the premet takings. last question -- premeditation. >> considering they had a weapon not registered, carried it on the base do you consider changing protocol or practice, approaching base (inaudible). >> procedures that's correct. so thank you very much, i appreciate it, also appreciate your support, we will hold a regular press conference daily,

until we get all of the information out into the public that we have that's appropriate. i don't have a time for that but the first one obviously will be tomorrow and colonel chris garver our public relations officer will put that out. i thank you for your concern for the fallen and wounded in this case, thank you very much. >> lieutenant general mark milley commander at fort hood. you're watching al jazeera america, we continue with the breaking news, it's a strong resilient community, we are joined by jonathan betz, from dallas reporting from texas for a long time. jonathan tell us about the fort hood community. >> we are now hearing for the first time clearly what happened on this military base. now we realize it was a soldier who went against other soldiers

at fort hood and that he killed three people before killing himself shot 16 others. you just heard the general mention how he went into a unit headquarters, the first medical brigade opened fire in there got out got inside a car drove to another building nearby opened fire from within the car shooting at the -- he presumably walk around maybe running and then walked into another building. that one was his unit headquarters >> >> he had