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>> results of analyses were skewed in favor of the prosecution >> the fbi can't force the states to look at those cases >> the truth will set you free yeah...don't kid yourself >> the system has failed me
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..it's never worked across the country. researchers have looked at this. once a distribute loses its white population, it doesn't come back. >> you write about the extraordinary growth of what you call american apart hide schools from around 2700 in 1998 to more than 6700 three years ago.
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explain what you mean, and how do you explain the explosion in growth. >> apartheid school is not my term, but a term that u.c.l.a. uses and a school that is 1% or less white. part of it is it residential segregation, and part is the decision to create zones that allow schools to be 99% black latino. into there's an ongoing investigation into an elementary school. tell us about that, and where it's headed. >> the u.s. department of the education has been investigating the city schools for a number of years. assigning students. the investigation is ongoing. so far there has been no resolution. >> do you see anything in your reporting suggesting a way to turn this around. civil rights it was the segregation. the courts ordered it, it happened, schools are left to
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their own devices. how do we turp it around. >> the supreme court is limiting the tools that school districts have. if you are not under a court order you can't use race as a factor in your assignment. communities have to decide if this is something they want. there are examples. louisville, kentucky, and others have a continuing in waite county they use income. and louisville, is race. >> they are the exceptions, rather than the norm, this is a problem that goes behind the sound. >> right. they are the exception. and one of the things i wanted to show in the article is the south is important, because it did integrate and has more to lose. in the north-east and the midwest we have high degrees of segregation, and there's never been a real intreg grags. >> fascinating work that you
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have down. thank you for sharing op "consider this". we appreciate it. >> now to ukraine, another bad day for that country and the relationship between the united states and russia. it's prompted diplomats to describe the situation as the worst super-power crisis. on wednesday sergei lavrov warned to moves to counter moves in eastern ukraine could trigger a russian military response. >> if we are attacked we'll respond. russian citizens attacked is an attack on the russian federation. >> forces on the border backed up the words with a series of military exercises including mobile rockets and air to air missile launches. 150 u.s. army paratroopers arrived in pole aned for -- poland, for the first of a series of deployments. we are joined by kiev by a
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senior associate editor with "the washington post." along with the latest threat to ukraine, russian foreign minister "my only love" says where the government of kiev is consouth-easterned: -- concerned: >> with vice president joe biden, and c.i.a. john brennan, a billion dollar loan, how much influence does the u.s. have in kiev, what does the kiev government want from washington? >> i think the u.s. has some influence. officials you mentioned have been here. president obama ruled out all military force. vladimir putin of russia, on the other hand annexed crimea, which is significant part of ukraine, or was, shall i say. and now he has russian agents in the eastern part of ukraine. which has been approved by photos distributed by the government and the u.s. said the
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photos were true, there were russian agents stirring up trouble in the eastern part of ukraine. >> when you see the russians on the march and add a quote from sergei lavrov citing russia's 2008 georgia campaign, in which two republics broke away from georgia and linked to moscow, does it suggest that russia is ratcheting up the threat and is it a real threat? >> yes, it's a real threat. russia has 40,000 troops on the border of ukraine, and as you know, it has a very small army that doesn't work very well. it's an enormous threat. and the ukrainian officials - and i have spoken to most of the high-ranking officials, the presidential candidates, are worried. and the question on everyone's mind is are the russians going to ipp vade -- invade. they believe that the russian plan is to split off ukraine,
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south and east of ukraine, and in any case, to disrupt the presidential election, which will be held on may 25th, and they think that that is the russian strat eej ache game -- strategic game now, to interrupt the election. >> you interviewed the minister of interior fairs and he said the ukrainian government would liberate people from the separatists. did he say how, and is there an expectation that if it leads to a military conflict that ukrainians believe the united states will be there to help. >> i don't think they believe that. i think they feel betrayed in a way by the united states, because they felt we guaranteed their territory would remain intact when they gave up nuclear weapons in 1994. that happened, happened. they have an army that really doesn't function. the interior minister did tell me that he'd call off the easter
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truce and try to liberate those held by the terrorists. the army doesn't work well. interior ministry troops are not really effective. there's no contest between ukraine's army and the russian army. i think the prime minister, who looks exhausted would have to do the i.m.f. package. >> near there was a symbolic gesture as far as 150 troops going to poland. how is that received by the polish readers and the other officials you are talking to in the region. >> i interviewed the pollic foreign minister who has outstanding. i think they were hoping the u.s. would deploy troops, instead of in serm ni, to poland. i am sure they'll be happy, but it's not much when you look at vladimir putin.
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as the prime minister said to me, and other officials said to me. they believe vladimir putin ended the cooperation strategy, and that he's on a confrontation strategy and will go where he doesn't meet resistance, and if he doesn't meet resistance from the west, frankly, they see it as an international problem, a problem with the united states and europe, and they think they can't do this alone. they know they are week. they think if we don't help them resist mr vladimir putin, he'll take part of their country and go to the baltic states and kazakhstan and even the russian minority. >> you have decades of experience talking to international leaders and prime ministers through several conflicts. what do you make of this based on all the experience. where do you see it heading.
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it's one of the most experience conflict. in america, where i live, people are unaware of the history, they don't know we signed the budapest treaty. or that ukraine has the third nuclear arsenal, because we persuaded them to give it up and said, "don't worry, we'll stand by you", the fact is crimea is in the hands of the hds of the they sent in agents. it's the first land grab, change of border since world war ii. it's, frankly, one of the most serious situation i have seen in years. i'm not sure if people in the west grasp how serious it is, and what the implications are for the rest of the world, if we allow it to stay the way it is, and allow mr vladimir putin to keep rolling. in a way it's up to the west, to the united states, to our allies in europe to see what's. >> thank you so much for your
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time. we appreciate it. >> coming up. randy from "borderland," and what was off-camera in the latest episode. a sneak peek of what is coming next week. first, giving a voice to the voiceless - world cup preparations in brazil are wreaking havoc on the civilians. violent confrontations are getting worse. join our conversation at:
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>> in just 50 days the eyes of the world will be focussed on brazil as they host the 2014 world cup, the largest sporting event on the planet. on tuesday violent protests erupted after police allegedly beat a man to death, not far from where tens of thousands of spectators are expected to stay. brazilian place, joined by army troops, have been invading slums and pushing out slum gangs if areas that traffickers controlled for decades.
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aggressive tactics have come under fire. joining us from silver spring maryland is dave, his book: >> it is due out and available on amazon.com. brazil has some poor and violent neighbourhoods next to top tourist spots. what do you make of efforts to clean them up? >> in one level it gentrification at gun point. one thing that brazil. rio, a member of the epicentre of the 2016 olympics has seen a real estate bubble. in brazil, like the united states, the poor lived on the hills, and the rich on the bottom. on the the united states, it's the reverse. beverly hills on the hill, poor at the bottom. there's a rush to displace people from the flavelas, and
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using the world cup and the olympics as a pretext. there has been drug gangs in the flavelas, uneasy truces, crime is better. with the coming of the world cup. that's when you see the marines and the place. >> is that because getting people to move, such as spending on infrastructure. they realise they don't have the time, they they have to use force. >> that's part of it. in some flavel seas, there's social movements. and in several places we have to rls the drug issue and a cannard. there is crime and precarious living, but in many it has existed for decades. what is happening in brazil is about the breaking of a social
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contract that existed sips dictatorship, saying they'll try to make it a brazil this fights inequality, a place that has decent health care for country's millions of poors. shifting with the megaevent. >> i have to ask about the fobds of the book, the environmental problems that brazil is facing. there's a stadium in the middle of the amazon rainforest. $325 million, but it will host four games in the tournament. what was it about? >> it's a stunning story. >> if there's one thing brazil does not have a shortage of, it's soccer stadiumless. f.i.f.a. makes a demand for f.i.f.a., quality stadiums, people have signs saying we want f.i.f.a. quality hospitals and schools. and the most ridiculous of the projects is that one in the amazon. it's a place where there is a soccer stadium but not deemed
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good enough. it's a mistake to thing all of brazil is sock are mad, it's a -- soccer mad, it's a huge country. not everywhere loves sock are. and included is this part of the amazon rainforest. it's going to malt once the world cup is over. unless it find a use, leading to a proposal by some brazilian politicians saying let's turn the stadium into an open air prison or a mass processing center for prisoners. >> in latin america the idea of using stadiums has a long and notorious echo. >> i understand the brazilians, for anyone that has been there, they are sensitive to issues about the environment. get despite this, the way they lined up the venues, the air travel between the venues will generate 2.7 million tonnes of carbon pollution, the equivalent of 550,000 passenger cars
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obvious a year. >> have no fear. the stadiums will collect and recycle rainwater. that should make up for the travel. i say that with a lot of sarcasm. here is the main issue with that. in brazil, it's a double-edged sword. you can understand why. a lot of people in brazil feel like being lectured to about the environment from the united states. it's something that they don't want to hear. at the aiment brazil has a longstanding environment most. it's a question that vessels countries around the world which is how do you balance economic growth and pulling people out of poverty >> surface the tournament. infrastructure is key to move around the spectators. a number of people were alarmed when the pope went to brazil.
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there were two and a half million people along the beach. everything was jammed up. have the infrastructure problems gotten better since then? >> no, they are behind in terms of infrastructure. the infrastructure problems are serious, they are pressing, they are working, labours in brazil around the clock, 24 hours a day, seven days a week leading to actions causing deaths. so make no mistake, there'll be protests in brazil during the world cup, and the reason is precisely it is rooted in the demands that f.i.f.a. place on the host country. >> will the games go off without a hitch, or is there a possibility of something going wrong because of anger in the streets. >> there'll be hitches for days, over the country. hitches and hiccups, it's a question for how contained they'll be from the cameras, the
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bright lights and international spectacle. will it bleed into the games or kept isolated and segregated from the spectacle. as you said, it's the most watched sporting event. >> the book is: >> it's available for preorder. >> many of you watching the show have seen a series "borderland" on al jazeera america. the documentary follows six americans were across the political spectrum who retrace the substance of three migrants who died crossing the boarder. in a recent episode. we went to el salvador to meet the family, and within hours they saw the violence first hand, prompting randy to question amex's position -- alex's position as to whether the united states should open the border. footage may not be suitable for younger people. >> you don't have a right to
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look. you are justifying reasons to build up a border. >> i understand it's the result of a system that is so totally failed these people, but it has so affected them that it's in the culture, and that we are talking that these people that show the violence will be... i understand there'll be people. but at the same time there'll be people that are absolutely violent. >> you're saying there's a greater potential of violence. >> tremendously greater potential. >> as if we don't have enough problems, and we'll bring in even more. >> randy joins us from washington d.c. he's a former marine and began the show opposed to any immigration reform that grants amnesty to undocumented people. the next episode of "borderland" premiers on sunday 9:00 pm eastern. the show follows you and five others as you track three migrants who died crossing the
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border. i understand you have not seen the full episodes. what do you think? >> it's phenomenal. phenomenal documentary. what makes it so phenomenal is you are seeing all of the perspectives from six pairs of eyes, not one. i think it gives a greater well-rounded perspective of the problems that are going on with this. >> ut pair it with the artist rments you travel to met the family of myra in the united states. her brother told you she couldn't find work and the local violence left her unsafe. were you surprised by that. >> before going down there i would have been surprised. while down there apparently there was a gang violent
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threatened against us. el salvador is a country i call a force reed country. they have armed guards standing at mcdonald's. concrete walls topped with razor wire to protect themselves. it is very violent. the statistic reflects that 10-15 deaths odour in san salvador. it's violent and i understand why people need to get out of there. >> a friend of myra's described how she died in the desert along the border. it was heart-wrenching and here is your response. >> mira's mum said you were her angel. >> yes. >> beautiful. >> she loved you so much for what you did for myra. >> i don't think that i have
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>> i'm ready to change what my position is, how can i not be affected by it? i wouldn't be a huge jp being if i wasn't fected by it. we have to -- human being if i wasn't affected by it. we have to have a humane change to the system we call our immigration policy. >> the conversation with the friend of the family, and that was somebody who was with myra, saw her die, protected the body and brought her body to the border police. hearing that change, how did that impact you personally? >> that was a poipiant moment -- poignant moment. prior to the show, i had an aloof position to the immigration problem. you know, i won't say i was in an ivy tower, glass tower, crystal tower, it changed the fact that i have connected with the human factor. whatever - and i said it, there
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has to be a human change in all of this. and we have to consider the um yn factor in whatever -- human factor in whatever we do and protect people doing these things, crossing and dying. >> after having travelled through central america and seeing the human factor, is that one thing that may strike most americans as surprising. the idea that so many americans don't realise the love of family that motivates family that try to do this. >> the first part of the discussion has to be why there's a separation. i'm view youing the people, the -- viewing the people, migrants as being more refugees than immigrants. it's the violence - they are trying to - you know, they leave their family hoping to financially support them, send money back and provide a better way of life. viewing this as the fact that i think there are more refugees,
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economic refugees, violent refugees. that's what caused part of the separation, we in the united states have to recognise what is really driving the problem. because until we do that, we cannot adequately deal with the solution. we had an amnesty programme before, and now we are talking about it again. it's not resolved the problem. >> in the next elsewed we see you ride op a train to the united states, and see a man who has taken the death train. when asked if he's afraid of it,ize answer is sad as it is shocking. which is described in next week's episode.
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watch. >> put on the tracks. >> he saw with his own eyes. >> there are criminals, or gangs on the train that are praying upon the migrants as they go? . >> the experience of being there on the death train, is there a way to describe it. understanding that these people understand what the dangers are, you know, the dangers of the gangs, the dangers of bandits, and the dangers of the drug cartels, which is probably the
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most prolific danger that they face because of human trafficking out of all of that. the fact that these people are facing the danger knowingly and rapedly know iping -- repeatedly knowingly should tell americans the desperation that is going on. to be confronted with that reality is poignant that we have to do something to change the environment. if we don't deal with the root causes, there's no adequate solution. >> randy, and "borderland"'s next episode, premiers here: >> thank you for your time, we appreciate it. >> thank you, it's an honour and a privilege. >> you are welcome. >> ahead: when social media plans go wrong. the new york police department's twitter campaign backfired in a big way. a less on for all of us. chicago celebrates ridley field
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centennial. we look at other numbers in the data drive. >> why talking to strangers may not be so bad.
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>> it started off as an interesting idea. the new york city police department. the largest in america thought
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that social media could be used to help build better connections with citizens in the community. the department encouraged people to post pictures of themselves with the police. many responses were not what the n.y.p.d. had in mind, and within an hour the photos of police arresting and beating people was a trending topic. it was this photo of a woman cuffed and getting her hair pulled by an officer. the backlash is spreading to other cities. there are campaigns to humiliate police in los angeles, oaklands and albuquerque, a force under having for on excessive use of force. >> a partner in lee digital and social strategists has been worked in the field of digital politics and advocacy and with the center for american progress and alan and i worked together on a separate media projects and show called "take out your
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news." great to have you on the programme. what do you make from the initial effort by police? >> i want to commend them for engaging on social media and reaching out to the public. there's a new regime in the new york police department and are trying to breakaway from things that went astray in previous regimes. whether they achieved it is to be seen. the idea was to create a new positive impressions, although i think they should not have been surprised that there was backlash. i don't see it as a failure or as something that is over. >> regarding the backlash and the unflattering pictures of new york city police commissioner, he said that he welcomed the attention, adding that the pictures were old news. how could the n.y.p.d. not have seep this coming. >> that is the mystery.
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there's no way that it would have been seen coming. they did point out that the pictures were from a previous regime. it's commendable. there was no pictures of bad examples in recent times. probably the police department should have been more proactive at promoting what they did with the change of culture, so that when they launched the campaign, they could refer back to the work done, and the public exposure of the work done to improve the culture as a way to emealiate the backlash. i don't think it could have been avoided it would have been to be prepared for it. keep the message going forward and not use the hashtag campaign as a way to create the image of a better new york place
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department, but rather than use it to ship the light on and improving new york police department. >> for individuals, and organizations, trying to use social media, what is the general guidelines for them to do it in a focus the way that benefits them, as opposed to making them a laughing stockism. >> if you go into a campaign, where you are trying to change the culture, a perception from a negative to a positive. that should tell you that you should prepare for negative responses. social media, twitter, it's a free market of ideas. all perspectives out there come back at you. the important thing is to make sure that you are not trying to spin things, but building on a real-world track record of improving wherever it was that
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was your downfall before - what people were criticising you before. when you run a hashtag campaign which to the new york police department's credit they don't do it. make sure you don't feed it to your website. then this entire free market of the ideas barrels through. you'll have a way to selectively share the comments flow your website in this case, the new york police department saying they'd selectively share pictures from the campaign on the facebook page. that way they can control the outgoing message from what is going in. you can't control the discussion on the hash tag, and it will be seen by people. it is important that as i said, there has been a campaign to make people aware of the improvements that you made to address wherever problem you had in the past. when people push back, that you have a prepared way to pivot, to
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say "yes, that was before, we are not doing that any more, we are looking at changing the culture", and you are able to create a story, a narrative that focuses on the point of the hashtag, as opposed to relying on the hashtag to work magic. >> everyone in the government institutions and media, they are on twitter and facebook. what has that down to the way we as a society communicate with the institutions and how we communicate with the government? >> in a situation now where 100% of the senate and 95 or so% of the house of representatives are on twitter with facebook pages and so they basically opened up social media offices to their constit uns, and because social -- constituents, and because social media doesn't put restrictions on whether you live
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in the state, it ops up to a national constituency. that means there's a real-time interaction taking place between voters, constituents, elected officials, in some cases or with the staff responsible for managing the channel and reporting up to the member. and that there's a conversation that's taking place among constituents about the issues and the members of congress and government - as to what is going on. it's important that the members of congress and executive branch are monitoring what people are saying outside of what people are saying to them. a lot of officers are taking it up. i heard stories of a few officers with high electoral marmins and -- margins and don't care what people are saying. in the long run, it's not always a good idea. partly because the reason why they have large margins maybe
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because the other party has not tried hard enough, they wrote it off, and, as i said. we have national constituencies bringing pressure on individual members of congress by raising money, opponents or disrupting an ability to use the social media pages to get their message out. >> as far as etiquette in the final 30 seconds we have. if you make a mistake, individual or an organization, don't delete your tweet. explain y. >> the sup light foundation has -- sunlight foundation has a site. any member that deletes their tweet, it's displayed. better to correct it. maybe after you correct it you say, you snow, we'll delete the old one. after you have identified the fact that you made a mistake and are correcting the record and moving forward with the correction, it may be okay to
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delete the tweet. the idea is not to look luke you are hiding something, admit that you are human, if you show yourself as making mistakes, opening up to it, it improves your relationship with constit uns. >> you can follow the doctor on twitter. thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> coming up, why we may have the cop veptional whiches -- conventional wisdom about talking to streakers wrong. first, the chicago cubs celebrate a milestone in a fitting way possible. our data dive is next.
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>> today's data dive celebrates an american treasure usual. the chicago cubs celebrated the 100th birthday of home writingly fields. inviting ernie banks and jenkins to join in. the stadium opened in 1914 and cost $250,000 to build over two months. that's about $5.9 million in today's term, which is less than
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the two highest paid players will make this season. it was called wigman park and home to the chicago whales of the federal league. the cubs took over, and the name changed when william writingly junior, chewing gum mag nate took over. it took 74 years before they installed lights. they were going to do it in 1942, but the team's owner gave the steel and copper wire to the war effort. the scoreboard is hand operated and a seat in the bleachers has an old-time feel. it's a huge part of the neighbourhood and some rooftops offer a view of the games. >> that's a contention for the owner who wants to put in a new scoreboard to block the view. the park turns 100 on wednesday. it's been 106 years since
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winning the series. they signed a player, to try to end the drought. it hasn't helped. >> the cubs lost two-thirds of their game. >> in keeping with tradition, the cubs blew have 3-1 lead in the top of the ipings, losing to arizona 7-5. >> coming up, mum said "don't talk to strangers", is that mantra bad for you?
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>> [ ♪ music ] >> it's a phrase we all learn at a young age - don't talk to strangers. and for most of us we still live by it. honestly, do you want toen gauge the guy sitting next to you on the bus, or strike up a conversation with the woman in front of you in the checkout line. according to our nest guest, that's what we should do. alan gregorman joins us, the author and consultant. let's talk about the inspiration for your book. i understand it starts with your 9-year-old daughter. >> it started when i was walking to a school bus. we were talking to someone and i
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turned and said "we can't always walk you to the school bus. i'd like you to promise me on days you walk by yourself, you will not talk to strangers." it seemed like good advice, advice that my parents had given me in a world that had seemed calmer. carley said "if i don't talk to strangers, how will i make new friends and meet new things", that got me think, as an inno vase consultant. strangers is a way to stretch, learn and grow and challenge ourselves. >> if you are the person on the receiving end of a stranger coming up to you. how do you know it's not a weird or or has a problem. >> that's fair. the reality is there's a small percentage of folks that are weirdos. with a little caution we can make is a determination quickly
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about folks and whether in the right circumstance it's reasonable to engage them. >> as far as engaging, let's stake an example. i'm knew it the subway system. there are interesting people there, who can be interesting to talk to. how do i decide who to introduce myself to and who to be clear from. >> there is is a little serendipity. you are probably going to notice a bunch of people reading books, and hopefully some reading the necessity of strangers. it's an interesting book, you hope they say, and they may respond "it is, or i'm halfway into the book, i don't know if it's the right book for me. look at what people are reading. i think you kind of gauge a little as you look at people. and that doesn't mean that it's right for everybody. i'm not saying that everybody
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should walk up to strangers, but there are a lot of occasions in our lives when we are sitting next to and coming in contact with strangers, and most of us don't take the time to connect or get to know them. they are important and regular opportunities. >> you say it's important because of the difficulties among strangers. explain what you mean. >> think about this. friends are awesome, and our close colleagues at work are awesome. the reality is they are a lot like us. that is cool, but the truth of the matter is not only are they a lot like us, but probably likely to agree with us on a lot of things we are likely to think about. let's say in some expect, whether it's work, personal, social or civic, let's say we'd like to come up with new ideas. a breakthrough stretching our ability or organization's ability to be remarkable. if i rely on the folks close by
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to me, the likelihood i'll come up with a new idea is small. if i suggest to myself that i should stretch and cast a wider net. maybe it is different to me. people that think about the world, with different perspectives and training and ideas. maybe they should think in a different way. i'm more likely to couple up with an idea that is different and compelling. i get the idea, but what about the efficiencies and even individuals have. for example, we talk about hiring the importance of strangers. it can be risky. if you don't do your due diligence and referral. >> i would suggest that it's riskier to keep hiring people. most organizations. that's what they do. they interview a bunch of people with credentials that seem in
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line with what they had been doing for a while and moving forward. they looked for folks that they resonated with, folks whose temperament and civil and interests were the same as hiring manager. that's good if all we want to do is do more of the same. we have to be more innovative, and if we have to be way more innovative, we ought to combine what we know with a bunch of people that know other things, and seeing how their experiences can stir the pot. >> thank you for sharing with us. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> the show may be over. but join in the conversation at
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