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talk to al jazeera >> oscar winner sean penn shares his views on privacy rights, press freedom and his controversial relationship with hugo chavez >> talk to al jazeera only on al jazeera america the political issue of immigration becomes personal. "borderland"'s randy i suppose us. his behind the scenes perspective and a clip from next week's episode. a report finds that school segregation in the united states is making an ugly comeback. documents say the latest in ukraine is pushing the united states and russia towards the biggest crisis sips the end of the cold war. in brazil - two months towards the world cup, the violence is getting worse. i'm david shuster, welcome to "consider this". here is more on what is ahead.
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. >> u.s. troops are now in poland exercises. >> we have approximately 130 soldiers here. >> we follow trucks the interests of the russians, if they are attacked we'll respond. americans are running the show. >> many of the claims in the interview are ludicrous. >> the death of a popular local figure sparked riots in brazil - less than two weeks before the world cup starts. >> it became so bad with rifle shooting. we hid under the bed. >> al jazeera's new series "borderland" takes you behind the debate. >> you are justifying reasons to build up a border. >> that has not been a good day for ukraine or the relationship between united states or russia. those developments in a moment. first, here at home.
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a report came out about the return of racial segregation to some of the public schools. the indepth analysis found in many cities schools are back to being ag segregated as they were 40 years ago. at central high school the focus of the report, given a long history of integration, the school is 99% african-americans. a few decades ago following court orders it was mixed, with the resources to make it one of the best schools, general high principal was a student. >> when i went i spelt suspiciously. you had national merit school arse for our five languages, the best teams, mathematic championship. to break it up, there's something i don't understand. >> for more, joining us on the
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set is nicole hannah jones, a propublic reporter. her expose on the return of seg re ration to american public schools, segregation now was published in a magazine and on the website. since 2000, hundreds of school systems have been released from the desegregation orders. within 15 years and 50 years from civil rights, we are talking about segregation again. >> we are. in some ways we have never completely integrated. in the south, because of the court orders, we saw a great deal of integration and districts released. some are going backwards. >> when they are released. what caused it. they are left to their own devices. security had to decide themselves, what happened. >> they take the local decision making away from school boards under court orders, if a school board wanted to re-zone, build a new school or take action, it had to get court approval and the justice department or
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plaintiffs could agree or disagree. once that is removed districts are free to do anything they want, as long as they don't intentionally discriminate or say they are. what i showed in my reporting is that school districts - a lot of time the zones are jerry mannedered. we hear they are neighbour hood schools. you can draw attendance zones in a way that intreg grates students. >> you focus on tus ka loose alabama. how much of the segregation, the former high school in tus call usa is the responsibility of african american leaders or parents there. >> the district wanted to be released from a court order. part of the way to do that was to get support from key black elites. they testified in favour of the district before the jup, and the judge -- judge, and the judge weight.
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>> speaking of testimony, i want to play a sound byte from a school board members, talking about the decisions made. >> my position was we rushed into this. we need more time. we need research. for the majority of the people on the school board who represented the majority of the voters, it was okay. i said to them we will experience the damage of this decision for the next 50 years. i said it's criminal what we have done tonight. >> she was right. within a dramatically. >> right. so what happened was because of the court order every high school student? tus call usa went to the same high school. central high school was related. literally within months it broke about to split apart, create three high schools and turn school. >> the idea was this will be a
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way to avoid white flight. give an incentive for white families to stay within tus call usa. >> that's right. like many it went from a majority white to by the late '60s overwhelmingly black. the court officials believed it contributed to the white flight. if they could be released and create schools where white students would be close to the population. >> it didn't work the way they wanted. >> it never worked across the country. you see the argument. researchers looked at this. once a district loses the white back? a. >> you write about the growth of what you call american apartheid schools, from around 2700 in 1988 to more than 6700 three years ago.
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and you'll get... the inside story ray suarez hosts inside story weekdays at 5pm et / 2pm pt only on al jazeera america >> in just 50 days the eyes of the world will be focussed on brazil as they host the 2014 world cup, the largest sporting event on the planet. on tuesday violent protests erupted after police allegedly beat a man to death, not far from where tens of thousands of spectators are expected to stay. brazilian place, joined by army troops, have been invading slums and pushing out slum gangs if areas that traffickers controlled for decades. aggressive tactics have come under fire. joining us from silver spring maryland is dave, his book: >> it is due out and available
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on amazon.com. brazil has some poor and violent neighbourhoods next to top tourist spots. what do you make of efforts to clean them up? >> in one level it gentrification at gun point. one thing that brazil. rio, a member of the epicentre of the 2016 olympics has seen a real estate bubble. in brazil, like the united states, the poor lived on the hills, and the rich on the bottom. on the the united states, it's the reverse. beverly hills on the hill, poor at the bottom. there's a rush to displace people from the flavelas, and using the world cup and the olympics as a pretext. there has been drug gangs in the flavelas, uneasy truces, crime is better. with the coming of the world cup. that's when you see the marines
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and the place. >> is that because getting people to move, such as spending on infrastructure. they realise they don't have the force. >> that's part of it. in some flavel seas, there's social movements. and in several places we have to rls the drug issue and a cannard. there is crime and precarious living, but in many it has existed for decades. what is happening in brazil is about the breaking of a social contract that existed sips dictatorship, saying they'll try to make it a brazil this fights inequality, a place that has decent health care for country's millions of poors. shifting with the megaevent. >> i have to ask about the fobds of the book, the environmental
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problems that brazil is facing. there's a stadium in the middle of the amazon rainforest. $325 million, but it will host four games in the tournament. what was it about? >> it's a stunning story. >> if there's one thing brazil does not have a shortage of, it's soccer stadiumless. f.i.f.a. makes a demand for f.i.f.a., quality stadiums, people have signs saying we want f.i.f.a. quality hospitals and schools. and the most ridiculous of the projects is that one in the amazon. it's a place where there is a soccer stadium but not deemed good enough. it's a mistake to thing all of brazil is sock are mad, it's a -- soccer mad, it's a huge country. not everywhere loves sock are. and included is this part of the amazon rainforest. it's going to malt once the world cup is over.
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unless it find a use, leading to a proposal by some brazilian politicians saying let's turn the stadium into an open air prison or a mass processing center for prisoners. >> in latin america the idea of using stadiums has a long and notorious echo. >> i understand the brazilians, for anyone that has been there, they are sensitive to issues about the environment. get despite this, the way they lined up the venues, the air travel between the venues will generate 2.7 million tonnes of carbon pollution, the equivalent of 550,000 passenger cars obvious a year. >> have no fear. the stadiums will collect and recycle rainwater. that should make up for the travel. i say that with a lot of sarcasm. here is the main issue with that. in brazil, it's a double-edged sword. you can understand why.
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a lot of people in brazil feel like being lectured to about the environment from the united states. it's something that they don't want to hear. at the aiment brazil has a longstanding environment most. it's a question that vessels countries around the world which is how do you balance economic growth and pulling people out of poverty >> surface the tournament. infrastructure is key to move around the spectators. a number of people were alarmed when the pope went to brazil. there were two and a half million people along the beach. everything was jammed up. have the infrastructure problems gotten better since then? >> no, they are behind in terms of infrastructure. the infrastructure problems are serious, they are pressing, they are working, labours in brazil
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around the clock, 24 hours a day, seven days a week leading to actions causing deaths. so make no mistake, there'll be protests in brazil during the world cup, and the reason is precisely it is rooted in the demands that f.i.f.a. place on the host country. >> will the games go off without a hitch, or is there a possibility of something going streets. >> there'll be hitches for days, over the country. hitches and hiccups, it's a question for how contained they'll be from the cameras, the bright lights and international spectacle. will it bleed into the games or kept isolated and segregated from the spectacle. as you said, it's the most watched sporting event. >> the book is:
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>> it's available for preorder. >> many of you watching the show have seen a series "borderland" on al jazeera america. the documentary follows six americans were across the political spectrum who retrace the substance of three migrants who died crossing the boarder. in a recent episode. we went to el salvador to meet the family, and within hours they saw the violence first hand, prompting randy to question amex's position -- alex's position as to whether the united states should open the border. footage may not be suitable for younger people. >> you don't have a right to look. you are justifying reasons to build up a border. >> i understand it's the result of a system that is so totally failed these people, but it has so affected them that it's in the culture, and that we are talking that these people that
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show the violence will be... i understand there'll be people. but at the same time there'll be violent. >> you're saying there's a greater potential of violence. potential. >> as if we don't have enough problems, and we'll bring in even more. >> randy joins us from washington d.c. he's a former marine and began the show opposed to any immigration reform that grants amnesty to undocumented people. the next episode of "borderland" premiers on sunday 9:00 pm eastern. the show follows you and five others as you track three migrants who died crossing the border. i understand you have not seen the full episodes. what do you think? >> it's phenomenal. phenomenal documentary. what makes it so phenomenal is you are seeing all of the perspectives
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from six pairs of eyes, not one. i think it gives a greater well-rounded perspective of the problems that are going on with this. >> ut pair it with the artist rments you travel to met the family of myra in the united states. her brother told you she couldn't find work and the local violence left her unsafe. were you surprised by that. >> before going down there i would have been surprised. while down there apparently there was a gang violent threatened against us. el salvador is a country i call a force reed country. they have armed guards standing at mcdonald's. concrete walls topped with razor wire to protect
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themselves. it is very violent. the statistic reflects that 10-15 deaths odour in san salvador. it's violent and i understand there. >> a friend of myra's described how she died in the desert along the border. it was heart-wrenching and here is your response. angel. >> yes. >> beautiful. >> she loved you so much for what you did for myra. >> i don't think that i have >> i'm ready to change what my position is, how can i not be affected by it? i wouldn't be a huge jp being if i wasn't fected by it. we have to -- human being if i wasn't affected by it. we have to have a humane change
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to the system we call our immigration policy. >> the conversation with the friend of the family, and that was somebody who was with myra, saw her die, protected the body and brought her body to the border police. hearing that change, how did that impact you personally? >> that was a poipiant moment -- poignant moment. prior to the show, i had an aloof position to the immigration problem. you know, i won't say i was in an ivy tower, glass tower, crystal tower, it changed the fact that i have connected with the human factor. whatever - and i said it, there has to be a human change in all of this. and we have to consider the um yn factor in whatever -- human factor in whatever we do and protect people doing these things, crossing and dying. >> after having travelled through central america and
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seeing the human factor, is that one thing that may strike most americans as surprising. the idea that so many americans don't realise the love of family that motivates family that try to do this. >> the first part of the discussion has to be why there's a separation. i'm view youing the people, the -- viewing the people, migrants as being more refugees than immigrants. it's the violence - they are trying to - you know, they leave their family hoping to financially support them, send money back and provide a better way of life. viewing this as the fact that i think there are more refugees, economic refugees, violent refugees. that's what caused part of the separation, we in the united states have to recognise what is really driving the problem. because until we do that, we cannot adequately deal with the solution.
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we had an amnesty programme before, and now we are talking about it again. it's not resolved the problem. >> in the next elsewed we see you ride op a train to the united states, and see a man who has taken the death train. when asked if he's afraid of it,ize answer is sad as it is shocking. which is described in next week's episode. watch. >> put on the tracks.
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>> he saw with his own eyes. >> there are criminals, or gangs on the train that are praying upon the migrants as they go? . >> the experience of being there on the death train, is there a way to describe it. understanding that these people understand what the dangers are, you know, the dangers of the gangs, the dangers of bandits, and the dangers of the drug cartels, which is probably the most prolific danger that they face because of human trafficking out of all of that. the fact that these people are facing the danger knowingly and rapedly know iping -- repeatedly knowingly should tell americans the desperation that is going on.
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to be confronted with that reality is poignant that we have to do something to change the environment. if we don't deal with the root solution. >> randy, and "borderland"'s next episode, premiers here: >> thank you for your time, we appreciate it. >> thank you, it's an honour and a privilege. >> you are welcome. >> ahead: when social media plans go wrong. the new york police department's twitter campaign backfired in a big way. a less on for all of us. chicago celebrates ridley field centennial. we look at other numbers in the data drive. >> why talking to strangers may not be so bad. >> all this week, trades near the speed of light... >> if you're not trading at those speeds, you're toast!
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>> it started off as an interesting idea. the new york city police department. the largest in america thought that social media could be used to help build better connections with citizens in the community. the department encouraged people to post pictures of themselves with the police. many responses were not what the n.y.p.d. had in mind, and within an hour the photos of police arresting and beating people was a trending topic. it was this photo of a woman cuffed and getting her hair pulled by an officer. the backlash is spreading to other cities. there are campaigns to humiliate police in los angeles, oaklands and albuquerque, a force under having for on excessive use of
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force. >> a partner in lee digital and social strategists has been worked in the field of digital politics and advocacy and with the center for american progress and alan and i worked together on a separate media projects and show called "take out your news." great to have you on the programme. what do you make from the initial effort by police? >> i want to commend them for engaging on social media and reaching out to the public. there's a new regime in the new york police department and are trying to breakaway from things that went astray in previous regimes. whether they achieved it is to be seen. the idea was to create a new positive impressions, although i think they should not have been surprised that there was backlash. i don't see it as a failure or as something that is over. >> regarding the backlash and
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the unflattering pictures of new york city police commissioner, he said that he welcomed the attention, adding that the pictures were old news. how could the n.y.p.d. not have seep this coming. >> that is the mystery. there's no way that it would have been seen coming. they did point out that the pictures were from a previous regime. it's commendable. there was no pictures of bad examples in recent times. probably the police department should have been more proactive at promoting what they did with the change of culture, so that when they launched the campaign, they could refer back to the work done, and the public exposure of the work done to improve the culture as a way to
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emealiate the backlash. i don't think it could have been avoided it would have been to be prepared for it. keep the message going forward and not use the hashtag campaign as a way to create the image of a better new york place department, but rather than use it to ship the light on and department. >> for individuals, and organizations, trying to use social media, what is the general guidelines for them to do it in a focus the way that benefits them, as opposed to making them a laughing stockism. >> if you go into a campaign, where you are trying to change the culture, a perception from a negative to a positive. that should tell you that you should prepare for negative responses.
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social media, twitter, it's a free market of ideas. all perspectives out there come back at you. the important thing is to make sure that you are not trying to spin things, but building on a real-world track record of improving wherever it was that was your downfall before - what people were criticising you before. when you run a hashtag campaign which to the new york police department's credit they don't do it. make sure you don't feed it to your website. then this entire free market of the ideas barrels through. you'll have a way to selectively share the comments flow your website in this case, the new york police department saying they'd selectively share pictures from the campaign on the facebook page. that way they can control the outgoing message from what is going in. you can't control the discussion on the hash tag, and it will be
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seen by people. it is important that as i said, there has been a campaign to make people aware of the improvements that you made to address wherever problem you had in the past. when people push back, that you have a prepared way to pivot, to say "yes, that was before, we are not doing that any more, we are looking at changing the culture", and you are able to create a story, a narrative that focuses on the point of the hashtag, as opposed to relying on the hashtag to work magic. >> everyone in the government institutions and media, they are on twitter and facebook. what has that down to the way we as a society communicate with the institutions and how we communicate with the government? >> in a situation now where 100% of the senate and 95 or so% of the house of representatives are
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on twitter with facebook pages and so they basically opened up social media offices to their constit uns, and because social -- constituents, and because social media doesn't put restrictions on whether you live in the state, it ops up to a national constituency. that means there's a real-time interaction taking place between voters, constituents, elected officials, in some cases or with the staff responsible for managing the channel and reporting up to the member. and that there's a conversation that's taking place among constituents about the issues and the members of congress and government - as to what is going on. it's important that the members of congress and executive branch are monitoring what people are saying outside of what people are saying to them.
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a lot of officers are taking it up. i heard stories of a few officers with high electoral marmins and -- margins and don't care what people are saying. in the long run, it's not always a good idea. partly because the reason why they have large margins maybe because the other party has not tried hard enough, they wrote it off, and, as i said. we have national constituencies bringing pressure on individual members of congress by raising money, opponents or disrupting an ability to use the social out. >> as far as etiquette in the final 30 seconds we have. if you make a mistake, individual or an organization, don't delete your tweet. explain y. >> the sup light foundation has -- sunlight foundation has a site.
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any member that deletes their tweet, it's displayed. better to correct it. maybe after you correct it you say, you snow, we'll delete the old one. after you have identified the fact that you made a mistake and are correcting the record and moving forward with the correction, it may be okay to delete the tweet. the idea is not to look luke you are hiding something, admit that you are human, if you show yourself as making mistakes, opening up to it, it improves your relationship with constit uns. >> you can follow the doctor on twitter. thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> coming up, why we may have the cop veptional whiches -- conventional wisdom about talking to streakers wrong. first, the chicago cubs celebrate a milestone in a fitting way possible. our data dive is next.
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presents a breakthrough television event. >> borderland long held beliefs... >> im really pissed off at the mexican government... >> give way to compassion... >> if you feel tired, would you turn around and come back? >> our teams find out first hand how treacherous the migrants journey can be. >> we make them take a trip of death >> it is heartbreaking when you see the families on top of the rail car borderland continues only on al jazeera america >> today's data dive celebrates an american treasure usual. the chicago cubs celebrated the 100th birthday of home writingly fields. inviting ernie banks and jenkins to join in. the stadium opened in 1914 and
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cost $250,000 to build over two months. that's about $5.9 million in today's term, which is less than the two highest paid players will make this season. it was called wigman park and home to the chicago whales of the federal league. the cubs took over, and the name changed when william writingly junior, chewing gum mag nate took over. it took 74 years before they installed lights. they were going to do it in 1942, but the team's owner gave the steel and copper wire to the war effort. the scoreboard is hand operated and a seat in the bleachers has an old-time feel. it's a huge part of the neighbourhood and some rooftops offer a view of the games. >> that's a contention for the owner who wants to put in a new
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scoreboard to block the view. the park turns 100 on wednesday. it's been 106 years since winning the series. they signed a player, to try to end the drought. it hasn't helped. >> the cubs lost two-thirds of their game. >> in keeping with tradition, the cubs blew have 3-1 lead in the top of the ipings, losing to arizona 7-5. >> coming up, mum said "don't >> on the next talk to al jazeera >> oscar winner sean penn shares his views on privacy rights, press freedom and his controversial relationship with hugo chavez >> talk to al jazeera only on al jazeera america
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>> [ ♪ music ] >> it's a phrase we all learn at a young age - don't talk to strangers. and for most of us we still live by it. honestly, do you want toen gauge the guy sitting next to you on the bus, or strike up a conversation with the woman in front of you in the checkout
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line. according to our nest guest, that's what we should do. alan gregorman joins us, the author and consultant. let's talk about the inspiration for your book. i understand it starts with your 9-year-old daughter. >> it started when i was walking to a school bus. we were talking to someone and i turned and said "we can't always walk you to the school bus. i'd like you to promise me on days you walk by yourself, you will not talk to strangers." it seemed like good advice, advice that my parents had given me in
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a world that had seemed calmer. carley said "if i don't talk to strangers, how will i make new friends and meet new things", that got me think, as an inno vase consultant. strangers is a way to stretch, ourselves. >> if you are the person on the receiving end of a stranger coming up to you. how do you know it's not a weird or or has a problem. >> that's fair. the reality is there's a small percentage of folks that are weirdos. with a little caution we can make is a determination quickly about folks and whether in the right circumstance it's reasonable to engage them. >> as far as engaging, let's stake an example. i'm knew it the subway system. there are interesting people there, who can be interesting to talk to.
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how do i decide who to introduce myself to and who to be clear from. >> there is is a little serendipity. you are probably going to notice a bunch of people reading books, and hopefully some reading the necessity of strangers. it's an interesting book, you hope they say, and they may respond "it is, or i'm halfway into the book, i don't know if it's the right book for me. look at what people are reading. i think you kind of gauge a little as you look at people. and that doesn't mean that it's right for everybody. i'm not saying that everybody should walk up to strangers, but there are a lot of occasions in our lives when we are sitting next to and coming in contact with strangers, and most of us don't take the time to connect or get to know them. opportunities. >> you say it's important
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because of the difficulties among strangers. explain what you mean. >> think about this. friends are awesome, and our close colleagues at work are awesome. the reality is they are a lot like us. that is cool, but the truth of the matter is not only are they a lot like us, but probably likely to agree with us on a lot of things we are likely to think about. let's say in some expect, whether it's work, personal, social or civic, let's say we'd like to come up with new ideas. a breakthrough stretching our ability or organization's ability to be remarkable. if i rely on the folks close by to me, the likelihood i'll come up with a new idea is small. if i suggest to myself that i should stretch and cast a wider net. maybe it is different to me. people that think about the
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world, with different perspectives and training and ideas. maybe they should think in a different way. i'm more likely to couple up with an idea that is different and compelling. i get the idea, but what about the efficiencies and even individuals have. for example, we talk about hiring the importance of strangers. it can be risky. if you don't do your due diligence and referral. >> i would suggest that it's riskier to keep hiring people. most organizations. that's what they do. they interview a bunch of people with credentials that seem in line with what they had been doing for a while and moving forward. they looked for folks that they resonated with, folks whose temperament and civil and interests were the same as hiring manager.
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that's good if all we want to do is do more of the same. we have to be more innovative, and if we have to be way more innovative, we ought to combine what we know with a bunch of people that know other things, and seeing how their experiences can stir the pot. >> thank you for sharing with us. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> the show may be over. but join in the conversation at aljazeera.com/consider-this, facebook, twitter or google+. i'm antonio mora at "consider this," and from the entire crew, thanks for watching.
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>> results of analyses were skewed in favor of the prosecution >> the fbi can't force the states to look at those cases >> the truth will set you free yeah...don't kid yourself >> the system has failed me >> welcome to aljazeera america, i'm del walters in new york, and these are the stories we're following for you. violence again in ukraine, and russia issues a warning to the united states. president obama has his own warning for russia. and an attack in afghanistan leaves three americans dead in an afghan hospital. and we're going to meet an 89-year-old woman who says that she's determined to change the world for the better.